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"What about single dads?  "the article i saw was about mammies hence the thread. | |||
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"I'm not a mammie but I work a 60 hour week No medals for that either in your book" fair play to you. I'll give you a medal also  | |||
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"People know if they have kids it is going to be hard work What is your point?" there is no point. The thread is from an article I saw a while ago on a news story. | |||
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"Didnt realize they got to clock off ? I thought it was a 24hr job? Hows the kids ? Sorry its 9pm I'm not a parent Hahahahaha" I'd say they're in the leaba, most of them. | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. " they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. " Again What's your point? | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. Again What's your point?" brownie points   | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. Again What's your point?" there is no point as I told you. What are you whinging for? | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. Again What's your point?brownie points "FAIL | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? " I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. " Being a mother is a job 24/7. Some women decided to sacrifice their careers and focus on their children. I am in the group of mothers who work fulltime. Did you mean being a mother is not an occupation or its just a work to do for 20 years about for free? | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. Being a mother is a job 24/7. Some women decided to sacrifice their careers and focus on their children. I am in the group of mothers who work fulltime. Did you mean being a mother is not an occupation or its just a work to do for 20 years about for free? " Even when my child is grown and does not need me anymore I will still be a mother though. When spawn is sleeping I’m still a mother, when in school etc. I don’t consider the extra things a parent does for children as work. Just things that need to be done. | |||
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"I’m curious what they mean about work? Im a mother and employed full time always have. I consider my job my work. Even though my child is over now even when small I did not consider being a mother a job. they I'd say consider been a mother work. It is work but it's not a job. Being a mother is a job 24/7. Some women decided to sacrifice their careers and focus on their children. I am in the group of mothers who work fulltime. Did you mean being a mother is not an occupation or its just a work to do for 20 years about for free? " you often see profiles. Job occupation. I'm a full time mother. It's not an occupation imo. It's a full time position to rear your child and daily chores. I know mother's who have kids in that 5-12 bracket who also work. That's their occupation. The rearing of tbe child is something they knew they would have to do when they became pregnant | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. " that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. " would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. " Totally agree with you I have a childminder. Time to time a family member visits me here and take care of my kids - their grandchildren or niece and nephew. It is a job whatever any man can say it is not | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. " You said there was no point. | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. You said there was no point. " thars my point to the statement I just made re working and been a mother | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? " Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process 
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? " Yes.... also I hear they stop washing and in general just let themselves go | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Yes.... also I hear they stop washing and in general just let themselves go" dirty bitches | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. "work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere. | |||
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"Well I appreciate your thread I'm a single parent and I work full time also... My day is just long and on my days off, I still have a days work at home to do.... " tough going I'd imagine | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere. "Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it? I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it?
I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? "I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for. | |||
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"Well I appreciate your thread I'm a single parent and I work full time also... My day is just long and on my days off, I still have a days work at home to do.... tough going I'd imagine "Yes it is, and I'm not saying that a couple with children get it any less easier, but there are two people taking on the household nesescities from the bills and chores And I'm not taking away from those single people who work longs hours, but they are going home and looking after themselves, not themselves plus other little people Just saying | |||
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" I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for. " Who expects you to cook and clean? | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it?
I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for. "Where does women in general who have kids money come from? That’s not what your asking at all Your asking is being a mother work. Didn’t mention employment or money in your opening thread ( look up the definition of work ) | |||
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"Well I appreciate your thread I'm a single parent and I work full time also... My day is just long and on my days off, I still have a days work at home to do.... tough going I'd imagine
Yes it is, and I'm not saying that a couple with children get it any less easier, but there are two people taking on the household nesescities from the bills and chores
And I'm not taking away from those single people who work longs hours, but they are going home and looking after themselves, not themselves plus other little people
Just saying "yep I get you. Every one is diff but that's a big reason I don't have kids. Looking after myself and doing what I have to do is difficult enough. | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it?
I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for.
Where does women in general who have kids money come from?
That’s not what your asking at all
Your asking is being a mother work.
Didn’t mention employment or money in your opening thread ( look up the definition of work )
"the OP is there to see. The discussion has evolved from that. One of the first few comments is on work. "Where does women in general who have kids money come from?" The ones who don't work in employment? The state plus the child's father if he's providing | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it?
I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for.
Where does women in general who have kids money come from?
That’s not what your asking at all
Your asking is being a mother work.
Didn’t mention employment or money in your opening thread ( look up the definition of work )
the OP is there to see. The discussion has evolved from that. One of the first few comments is on work.
"Where does women in general who have kids money come from?"
The ones who don't work in employment? The state plus the child's father if he's providing "diffs said she considers her job her work. That's what I'm on about | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Your again targeting single mothers who don’t work outside of the home I take it?
I’d love to know what your mother classed you as? I'm not targeting anybody. I'm asking where does the money come from? I work in the home. I do washing, I cook, I clean, I do the garden etc but I don't get paid for it. It's something I'm expected to do. My job is what I get paid for.
Where does women in general who have kids money come from?
That’s not what your asking at all
Your asking is being a mother work.
Didn’t mention employment or money in your opening thread ( look up the definition of work )
the OP is there to see. The discussion has evolved from that. One of the first few comments is on work.
"Where does women in general who have kids money come from?"
The ones who don't work in employment? The state plus the child's father if he's providing diffs said she considers her job her work. That's what I'm on about "_iffa | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere. "Of course it's work. Work isn't defined by payment, a job is, but work isn't. Sure per your definition slave labour isn't work either, cos slaves don't get paid. | |||
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"Of course it’s work if it wasn’t people wouldn’t be in paid employment in child care, au pairs, nanny’s etc. I take it those that work full time either have great support or they pay for their children to be minded. that's a career. You don't get paid for looking after your own child. That's my point. would women just think, I'm pregnant now. When the child comes that's my job, I wont have to work in employment again? Is that what I said ? It’s work and I can’t speak for what women think when they become pregnant (I’m sure a lot actually plan their babies) with the father of the child. The other party in the process
No matter what they thought before they became pregnant that doesn’t stop it being work. Housewife is classed as an occupation though which I think is strange. work is something you're paid to do. Are you paid to rear your child? Youre not. Also I don't know the ins and outs of it but how can somebody afford to not work? Obviously money is coming from somewhere.
Of course it's work. Work isn't defined by payment, a job is, but work isn't. Sure per your definition slave labour isn't work either, cos slaves don't get paid."ok it's work then, work you don't get paid for. | |||
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"It’s not about being paid or not being paid. I’m a parent it’s part of who I am and with that comes responsibility, I’m not saying it’s easy to be a parent far from it. It’s worrying and tiring and you make sacrifices and second guess yourself. Of course after a long day knowing you have to face all the dam housework is truly painful but such is life. Coming home to a child who loved me and I think still kinda likes me unconditionally...that’s priceless " Just homework lol don’t forget lunches for the next day ironing uniforms making dinner / tea bath time bedtime cleaning then once all that is done it’s time to look after yourself | |||
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" Of course it's work. Work isn't defined by payment, a job is, but work isn't. Sure per your definition slave labour isn't work either, cos slaves don't get paid.ok it's work then, work you don't get paid for." it's also called houseWORK 
Being a mother isn't an occupation but being a housewife/househusband/homemaker is - as far as I know - an acknowledged occupation by law especially when it comes to divorce, taxes etc. He/she stays at home and runs the household and rears the kids while the other half is the breadwinner. One enables and supports the other and vice versa. Every single parent doing both is working double shifts imo. | |||
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" Of course it's work. Work isn't defined by payment, a job is, but work isn't. Sure per your definition slave labour isn't work either, cos slaves don't get paid.ok it's work then, work you don't get paid for. it's also called houseWORK
Being a mother isn't an occupation but being a housewife/househusband/homemaker is - as far as I know - an acknowledged occupation by law especially when it comes to divorce, taxes etc. He/she stays at home and runs the household and rears the kids while the other half is the breadwinner. One enables and supports the other and vice versa. Every single parent doing both is working double shifts imo. "This | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc " Do you have kids? | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?" no and hopefully never have them either. | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either. "So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about... 
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are? 
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! "lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't. | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't. "Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? "no just stating common sense. | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense. "No Just stating your opinion, as always | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
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Just stating your opinion, as always"it's actually common sense. Some people think they deserve handout after handout from the state. | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense. "Means testing people for children's allowance is a legal mine field with no simple solution, every parent regardless of their situation is entitled to it, and I think you'll find if it was to be implemented the savings to the state would be mimimal compared to the costs of implementing such measures | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
every parent regardless of their situation is entitled to it"They shouldn't be. | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
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Just stating your opinion, as alwaysit's actually common sense. Some people think they deserve handout after handout from the state."Well I agree with you there But why pick on mothers? I am not one btw | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
every parent regardless of their situation is entitled to itThey shouldn't be. "Thats your opinion, the fact is they are | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
every parent regardless of their situation is entitled to itThey shouldn't be.
Thats your opinion, the fact is they are "exactly | |||
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"What kind of work is mother’s work though? I'd imagine they mean constant looking after of kids, daily chores etc Do you have kids?no and hopefully never have them either.
So you have no idea about being parent
My grandma used to say: better stay quiet if you do not know what are you talking about...
Most of your threads sound like complaining for everything. Seriously! Maybe you should become a volunteer in any of the charity organisations, go to the Africa and see how lucky you are?
In my opinion you are constant unhappy and unmatured man. I may be wrong. Happy Saturday! lol I deal with kids on a daily basis. Here we speak about mother's. Raising a child is work but it's something you knew was coming once you fell pregnant. Is having a child a reason not to work in paid employment? In my opinion it's not. Should children's allowance in equal measure be given to all mother's regardless of circumstances? Again in my opinion it shouldn't.
Your talents are lost here, did you ever consider a career in politics? no just stating common sense.
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Just stating your opinion, as alwaysit's actually common sense. Some people think they deserve handout after handout from the state.
Well I agree with you there
But why pick on mothers?
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"The thread is heading away from what it started out as but it’s one thing the grates on me it the fact that children’s allowance is equal and a lot of people get a lot a stuff for doing nothing. Now there is no point attacking me I know everyone circumstances are different so I’m not targeting everyone . For example I am average pay €470 a week tax and last Saturday I was in the K Doc with my youngest it cost me €70 for the doctor and another €40 on prescription. The man sitting to me was telling me in conversation that it will cost him nothing to see the doc and €2 for his prescription and I’m sitting there thinking to myself that I’m paying for that. People in this country should not be given money directly it should be vouchers for food and clothes and vouchers for bills . My cousin and his wife do not work there is nothing wrong with them they have four kids both have cars and mobile in Wexford and two holidays a year. That should not be allowed after all it’s tax payers money " Thats a broad sweeping statement but some of it rings true for sure. I know a guy who is an expert at riding the system, himself and his partner have sun holidays every year, 2 cars etc and he has on several occasions told me how and what he does to get handouts, hasn't worked in 10yrs because of a disability (he broke his ankle and is in constant pain) he has a neck like a jockies bollox! Fooker plays footi qith me every Thursday night | |||
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"The thread is heading away from what it started out as but it’s one thing the grates on me it the fact that children’s allowance is equal" for everyone. Spot on . There is people screwing the system right left and centre and it's wrong | |||
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"The thread is heading away from what it started out as but it’s one thing the grates on me it the fact that children’s allowance is equalfor everyone. Spot on . There is people screwing the system right left and centre and it's wrong "Yes but we are missing the point here There are people screwing the benefits system - no doubt about it But parents are not if you are referring to the children's allowanc, as it is not means tested and available to all | |||
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"But parents are not if you are referring to the children's allowanc, as it is not means tested and available to all" it shouldn't be, that's my point. No way should you be getting a Payment for having x amount of kids imo | |||
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"But parents are not if you are referring to the children's allowanc, as it is not means tested and available to allit shouldn't be, that's my point. No way should you be getting a Payment for having x amount of kids imo" Why didn't you say that in the first place then, if that was the point of this thread | |||
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"But parents are not if you are referring to the children's allowanc, as it is not means tested and available to allit shouldn't be, that's my point. No way should you be getting a Payment for having x amount of kids imo Why didn't you say that in the first place then, if that was the point of this thread" it wasn't but working came into the convo and then that led onto the discussion of what mother's do for money who are not in paid employment. The answer is the state. | |||
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"Children Allowance helps with raring your family. And every woman is entitled to it.As the president and the wives of our TDS. It is also the main wage for the bills along with other benefits they are entitled to. Yes it is work, just because you are not paid. As in all that a parent does is what others go into as careers. Just this wage is pure love." I disagree. If you're a single mother out there for e.g. whose working in a job getting a good wage, you can well afford looking after your child, you don't need handouts. My simple outlook. If you expect/need handout after handout don't get pregnant. Don't have child after child. You then have women with kids, rolling buggies around (I live in a town i see it daily) who have no intention in the wide eartly world of getting a job. Why? How can they afford stuff for their child/dren? Food, clothes etc... I'll tell you how, the state. So finally, should the state give out money like children's allowance etc? I'm probably been mean saying they shouldn't but it most certainly should be means tested and most certainly should be given out in different ways then cash into the hand. | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. " my above post sums everything up imo. | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo. "Which post? | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
He means hes post just above ur one
Which post?"Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting". I worked full time when my son was small and got some help from the state but I never was flush for money. And I don't know many single parents on high paying wages? I'm only earning a decent wage now but I work silly hours, 2hr commute everyday and my son is in college and we are living of my wage. I pay my taxes, have done since I was 16 and started working, I never was well off at any stage, anything I bought was hard earned and anytime I looked for anything if the state the way I was made feel when asking for help was awful. I didn't set out to be a single parent, not the life I wanted or would have wanted for my son. But his "dad" walked away from day 1 and has never had a thing to do with his son. Never paid a penny to his upbringing. | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
He means hes post just above ur one
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Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting".
I worked full time when my son was small and got some help from the state but I never was flush for money. And I don't know many single parents on high paying wages? I'm only earning a decent wage now but I work silly hours, 2hr commute everyday and my son is in college and we are living of my wage.
I pay my taxes, have done since I was 16 and started working, I never was well off at any stage, anything I bought was hard earned and anytime I looked for anything if the state the way I was made feel when asking for help was awful. I didn't set out to be a single parent, not the life I wanted or would have wanted for my son. But his "dad" walked away from day 1 and has never had a thing to do with his son. Never paid a penny to his upbringing.
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
He means hes post just above ur one
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Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting".
I worked full time when my son was small and got some help from the state but I never was flush for money. And I don't know many single parents on high paying wages? I'm only earning a decent wage now but I work silly hours, 2hr commute everyday and my son is in college and we are living of my wage.
I pay my taxes, have done since I was 16 and started working, I never was well off at any stage, anything I bought was hard earned and anytime I looked for anything if the state the way I was made feel when asking for help was awful. I didn't set out to be a single parent, not the life I wanted or would have wanted for my son. But his "dad" walked away from day 1 and has never had a thing to do with his son. Never paid a penny to his upbringing.
I'd give up Steph
He obviously has a bee in his bonnet about unworking mothers and won't listen to anything anyone else has to say"Which is a shame cause a closed minded person is in my opinion a horrible person u need to understand that every situation is different and u can’t tar everyone with the same brush | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
He means hes post just above ur one
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Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting"."There is mother's walking around daily with buggies. I know these women aint married. I live in a town. What do they do for money? There is single mothers out there, when have a child/dren have no interest in going out and doing what most people do, work in paid employment. They get their money from the state plus maybe some from the child's daddy. If that's enough to live on, there is something wrong. | |||
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"Children Allowance helps with raring your family. And every woman is entitled to it.As the president and the wives of our TDS. It is also the main wage for the bills along with other benefits they are entitled to. Yes it is work, just because you are not paid. As in all that a parent does is what others go into as careers. Just this wage is pure love.I disagree. If you're a single mother out there for e.g. whose working in a job getting a good wage, you can well afford looking after your child, you don't need handouts. My simple outlook. If you expect/need handout after handout don't get pregnant. Don't have child after child. You then have women with kids, rolling buggies around (I live in a town i see it daily) who have no intention in the wide eartly world of getting a job. Why? How can they afford stuff for their child/dren? Food, clothes etc... I'll tell you how, the state. So finally, should the state give out money like children's allowance etc? I'm probably been mean saying they shouldn't but it most certainly should be means tested and most certainly should be given out in different ways then cash into the hand. "I am a single how mother on a very good wage, I work my ass of to raise my child and I get nothing handed to me. I pay rent, car, all bills and child care. At the end of the month I do be dame greatfull of that €140 children's allowance because it means I might actually be able to have a night out for myself or if my child needs something I can get it. Just because you are a single mother doesn't mean you get everything handed to you. Like everyone else it is means tested. I don't get free medical care, I don't get help with my rent. I don't get family income support because I am on a good wage. Don't tarnish all single parents with the one brush we all don't get hand outs. And yes everyone should be entitled to child benefit. Why should working class people loss out on everything. Yes some people screw the state but that's part of life and if you know they are screwing the state them why don't you do something about it and report the people who are that you know of. People need to learn what's not person ally effecting you is none of your dame business | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
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Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting".There is mother's walking around daily with buggies. I know these women aint married. I live in a town. What do they do for money? There is single mothers out there, when have a child/dren have no interest in going out and doing what most people do, work in paid employment. They get their money from the state plus maybe some from the child's daddy. If that's enough to live on, there is something wrong. "I'm a Dad, I can tell you without C/A I would be fooked, I'm a parent of 4 teens, she had little or nothing to do with them for the last 10 yrs , if I was means tested Id be fooked because I have a well paying job so on paper Im on the pigs back, if only that were true! All my money is tied up in mortgage, clothing,food, school fees loans etc. That childrens allowance keeps our heads above water. Yes there are young single mums out there who are still at home with scratch money and childrens allowance and they believe they are milking the system but that is short term! Eventually mam and dad will expect them to move on. If they have life goals they are in a very hard place now - whether we agree or not the child/ren / baggage they have will make that soo much harder to achieve. Its a vicious cycle  | |||
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"I'm not a mammie but I work a 60 hour week No medals for that either in your book" Only difference is that You get paid for your work.. Mummies doesnt .. | |||
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"I'm not a mammie but I work a 60 hour week No medals for that either in your book Only difference is that You get paid for your work.. Mummies doesnt .." My comment was a dig at the op and in no way at mothers | |||
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"What is it with you and single mums? I'm a single parent and I've worked since I had my son. In the 24 yes I've afforded 3 holidays at the most and even than I watched every Penney I had. Yes there are plenty using the system but let's be honest plenty of people are using the system. Stop tarring us all with the same brush. I'd like to see how you feel if you had a kid and were pacing the floor at 4am with a screaming baby with no support or anyone to help you. my above post sums everything up imo.
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Well good luck to anyone living of the state because I don't know how they do it, they obviously aren't "single parenting".There is mother's walking around daily with buggies. I know these women aint married. I live in a town. What do they do for money? There is single mothers out there, when have a child/dren have no interest in going out and doing what most people do, work in paid employment. They get their money from the state plus maybe some from the child's daddy. If that's enough to live on, there is something wrong.
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I can tell you without C/A I would be fooked,
I'm a parent of 4 teens, she had little or nothing to do with them for the last 10 yrs , if I was means tested Id be fooked because I have a well paying job so on paper Im on the pigs back, if only that were true!
All my money is tied up in mortgage, clothing,food, school fees loans etc. That childrens allowance keeps our heads above water.
Yes there are young single mums out there who are still at home with scratch money and childrens allowance and they believe they are milking the system but that is short term!
Eventually mam and dad will expect them to move on. If they have life goals they are in a very hard place now - whether we agree or not the child/ren / baggage they have will make that soo much harder to achieve.
Its a vicious cycle
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"I'm not a mammie but I work a 60 hour week No medals for that either in your bookget over your self " Geordie doesn't need babies, she just needs Galway cock. | |||
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"Absolutely disgusted at the attitudes on this thread towards single mothers and people who use the welfare system. Taking digs at disadvantaged groups is the lowest of the low. " Some attitudes are not nice. Also it’s not really the place to discuss things of this nature. It’s impossible for anyone to give a correct opinion about this when it’s impossible to know peoples circumstances. | |||
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"Absolutely disgusted at the attitudes on this thread towards single mothers and people who use the welfare system. Taking digs at disadvantaged groups is the lowest of the low. Some attitudes are not nice. Also it’s not really the place to discuss things of this nature. It’s impossible for anyone to give a correct opinion about this when it’s impossible to know peoples circumstances. " I was talking about your attitude, specifically, amongst others. There is no such thing as a "correct opinion". I'd worry more about being a decent empathetic human being, and less about being correct. | |||
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"Absolutely disgusted at the attitudes on this thread towards single mothers and people who use the welfare system. Taking digs at disadvantaged groups is the lowest of the low. Some attitudes are not nice. Also it’s not really the place to discuss things of this nature. It’s impossible for anyone to give a correct opinion about this when it’s impossible to know peoples circumstances. I was talking about your attitude, specifically, amongst others. There is no such thing as a "correct opinion". I'd worry more about being a decent empathetic human being, and less about being correct. " We must be reading different quotes cause I don’t think I’ve said anything wrong | |||
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"Absolutely disgusted at the attitudes on this thread towards single mothers and people who use the welfare system. Taking digs at disadvantaged groups is the lowest of the low. Some attitudes are not nice. Also it’s not really the place to discuss things of this nature. It’s impossible for anyone to give a correct opinion about this when it’s impossible to know peoples circumstances. I was talking about your attitude, specifically, amongst others. There is no such thing as a "correct opinion". I'd worry more about being a decent empathetic human being, and less about being correct. " Blocked how immature you are. Just cause u don’t like someone’s opinions even though I think my opinions were pretty good | |||
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