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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hi this is is my second time on fab.First time I was here I didn't feel welcome as a married man.But needs must and im back again as things haven't improved in the bedroom and still not getting sex.So judge me as you will but I have needs as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure how you think creating this thread will help you - unless masochism is your thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do u need strangers approval

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I suppose the idea of this thread is to say im not proud of myself but I have needs that I can't deny.

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By *aucyladMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat?"
Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would. "

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying

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By *exyDownUnderWoman
over a year ago

Westmeath


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would. "

'Another way to solve this problem'.

Have you sat your wife down and communicated your feelings?

Have you sought marriage guidance counselling?

If you have exhausted all possibilities... then have the balls to leave.

Life is too short, being unhappy in a marriage.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying "

As you don't know his situation, the divorce stipulation is a bit out of place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying

As you don't know his situation, the divorce stipulation is a bit out of place. "

Actually no, divorce is always there, not taking that route is a choice.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

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By *aucyladMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

Habe you tried discussing the lack of sex with her.if this is the only area of your relationship thats an issue then find a solution to it.Involve her and explain your frustration.She may get a shock initially but its better than a wedge being driven between the two of ye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

And you think cheating doesn't run the risk of discovery? And the possibility of a bitter divorce?

Nobody here can fix your problem OP, nor are people here to cater for your "needs", there is only one person to whom your actions and choices actually matter.

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By *ilderMan
over a year ago

dublin


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

What's happened in the 3 years since your last child was conceived? You were clearly getting sex at home at some stage.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

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Well if you actually love your partner, you owe it to her to both sit down and talk it out like 2 adults...

If I was in your shoes, I'd also consider confiding in one very close male friend or Marriage Counselor before talking about it to a bunch of strangers on a thread...

I don't mean to sound harsh, just being straight up with you...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

Habe you tried discussing the lack of sex with her.if this is the only area of your relationship thats an issue then find a solution to it.Involve her and explain your frustration.She may get a shock initially but its better than a wedge being driven between the two of ye."

Yes I have discussed it with her but she doesn't feel like sex since our last child was born.Apart from sex everything is else is fine between us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying

As you don't know his situation, the divorce stipulation is a bit out of place. "

Well its not out of place as he said he cant find any other way out. I merely suggested one that doesnt force him to come online looking for sexual partners in secret. It may not be suitable but it is an option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The second coming haha.. merry xmas op...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

For the record I dont care if people are on here are married.

But this is the kind of justification that drives me nuts.

Think of the fall out for your kids if you are found out. It will be alot bigger than an amicable seperation.

If seperation is out of the question then is it really worth the risk being on here?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying

As you don't know his situation, the divorce stipulation is a bit out of place.

Well its not out of place as he said he cant find any other way out. I merely suggested one that doesnt force him to come online looking for sexual partners in secret. It may not be suitable but it is an option "

I understand what you saying but divorce is not an option for me now or in the future.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st.

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By *aura66Woman
over a year ago

Belfast


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner."

Poor woman is probably too exhausted for sex

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By *ustin-SiderMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying

As you don't know his situation, the divorce stipulation is a bit out of place. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

Poor woman is probably too exhausted for sex "

Or afraid of getting pregnant again

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. "

I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation. "

I know how you feel!!! Keep you chin up!!!

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation. "

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife.

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By *lay2018Couple
over a year ago

westmeath & roscommon.

You only live once. You need to sit your wife down and discuss this with her. She might be shy or have her own insecurities that need addressing but being on here is wrong and you know it. Delete your account and sort your issues out like adults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife. "

He's probably at home minding the kids!!! . You pay for your fun!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No chance of a Sligo alert here?

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Ah the good old I love my wife but I have to cheat because she doesn't want to fuck me.

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By *rownboy30Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

I think OP wants verification that he's not an a-hole for what he's doing.

As others said YOLO.

Do what makes you happy, so long as you understand the consequences in your universe.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife.

He's probably at home minding the kids!!! . You pay for your fun!! "

8 to 4 i doubt it. When mine were that young if i took my eyes off them for too long they redecorated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hopefully the usual suspects are not too eager with the report button, tis the season and all that...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife. "

I know lots of people Don't like married men on site and can well understand where they are coming from but like I said before I also have needs.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife. I know lots of people Don't like married men on site and can well understand where they are coming from but like I said before I also have needs. "

Learn to wank .. stop attention seeking and looking fir approval. Do what you want but dont be a dick about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion.. grow a pair of balls and find a way to help her with 4 kids get off this site and spend a day doing and thinking what she has to do in 24 hrs... times that by 7 then by 52 then see how much energy you have.

Start with the day you met the promises you made...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife.

He's probably at home minding the kids!!! . You pay for your fun!!

8 to 4 i doubt it. When mine were that young if i took my eyes off them for too long they redecorated "

Lol.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx

Any connections to cavan aka sligo. Ffs hes back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ustin-SiderMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that."

Far from sinless but I think I am still allowed an opinion on a public thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!????? "

Probably the same from each side I would say James

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its hard to believe its only a 100yrs since ye Women got the vote

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!????? "

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!????? "

I asked myself the same question husband /partner neglecting her ? Needs to be felt wanted desired !! Just for the record not into meeting married ladies myself but each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out. "

Thanks doghunter!!! You've spoken the truth!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out.

Thanks doghunter!!! You've spoken the truth!!!"

I dont understand what point that proves.

Any woman posting anything in Fab will get more offers to sort her out than a man.

The people who post actual opinions will have the same regardless of gender

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out.

Thanks doghunter!!! You've spoken the truth!!!"

I dont particularly care a dam aboit marital status ..its your own buisness but self pitying threads are a crock of piss. I was annoyed till i looked at the profile. Fab Irelands favorite troll is back..this time from Donegal. Well done cavanman aka sligo .... git us good. This the wife we've been chatting about ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out.

Thanks doghunter!!! You've spoken the truth!!!

I dont particularly care a dam aboit marital status ..its your own buisness but self pitying threads are a crock of piss. I was annoyed till i looked at the profile. Fab Irelands favorite troll is back..this time from Donegal. Well done cavanman aka sligo .... git us good. This the wife we've been chatting about ??? "

I thought he would come back as santa for Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm lost!! Cavanman??

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!?????

She'd get loads of offers to sort her out.

Thanks doghunter!!! You've spoken the truth!!!

I dont particularly care a dam aboit marital status ..its your own buisness but self pitying threads are a crock of piss. I was annoyed till i looked at the profile. Fab Irelands favorite troll is back..this time from Donegal. Well done cavanman aka sligo .... git us good. This the wife we've been chatting about ???

I thought he would come back as santa for Christmas "

I thought an elf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm lost!! Cavanman??"

Pretty sure the OP is a regular troll on the forums new profile every few weeks last one was cavanman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

So you sgow your love by coming onto a site and looking for casual sex and posting threads about it. If thats love im glad id the balls to seperate. Ive zero sympathy fot your situation. Stop seeking approval and attention..get off line and put your wife 1st. I totally understand you're opinion on this as before I met my partner I often had nights out with my married friends and I used to be disgusted with their behavior behind their partners backs.I promised myself if I met someone I would never cheate on them. But yet I find myself in this sad situation.

And here you are on a sunday morning beamoaning your situation. Four kids you say ... wifes dealing with them atm i take it. Ffs any wonder shes not in the mood.... your the problem here dude not her. Be a man look after your wife. I know lots of people Don't like married men on site and can well understand where they are coming from but like I said before I also have needs. "

So you say separation or divorce is out if the question, yet you are willing to risk what you don't want to change to fulfill your needs.

You say you love her, but do you know if she loves you?

To say that everything is fine but that there is no sex doesn't make sense to me. Is there any intimacy in the relationship?

If a woman does not want to have sex with her husband then it's my opinion that everything else is NOT fine and that the root of the problem is quite deep and needs to be addressed if that is what both want.

If you don't want to separate, and you love your wife and see your future with her then you need to find out where the issue is and this may require counseling either on your own first or together.

If you have checked out of the relationship and see no future then see to your needs elsewhere and work towards separation.

L

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"I'm lost!! Cavanman??"

So is he.... forum search posts about cavanman you'll get the picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm lost!! Cavanman??

So is he.... forum search posts about cavanman you'll get the picture. "

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm lost!! Cavanman??

So is he.... forum search posts about cavanman you'll get the picture.

Thanks"

Oh dear, so all my preaching was in vain, lol

L

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"I'm lost!! Cavanman??

So is he.... forum search posts about cavanman you'll get the picture.

Thanks

Oh dear, so all my preaching was in vain, lol

L"

To think i got annoyed

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't know what just happened with this thread but can we get back to what it's meant to be about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sligo sligo sligo

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx

Welcome back .. why did you delete your last account ??? Ohh btw you spelt here wrong again on your profile #justsaying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what just happened with this thread but can we get back to what it's meant to be about."

No the moment has passed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what just happened with this thread but can we get back to what it's meant to be about."

No problem. So your a married man, with kids, looking for fun and want us to give you our blessing that it's ok??? It's your decision what you do!!! If your ok with it, why give a Fuck what's other people think!!!??? But it's a dangerous game to play!! And it's game over if your caught!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"I don't know what just happened with this thread but can we get back to what it's meant to be about.

No the moment has passed"

Pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what just happened with this thread but can we get back to what it's meant to be about.

No the moment has passed

Pmsl "

Your cruel!!!! But I like it!!

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By *ingerrrrWoman
over a year ago

Meath


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that."

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it. "

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By *ingerrrrWoman
over a year ago

Meath


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it. "

*there is.. not that I have.. (just to clarify)

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it. "

I have and hes a troll.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll. "

Could we not just discuss the topic

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By *ingerrrrWoman
over a year ago

Meath


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll. "

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Could we not just discuss the topic "

You fire ahead

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave. "

Theres always an option... sometimes its the hardest option but its still an option.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll. "

I understand you don't appear to like me but no need in name calling.Married men or women cheating isn't to everyone's liking but no need for rudeness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships "

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over "

Nice to see you consider all ladies on fab to be “hoores”.

That’s nice for your only verification to read too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave.

Theres always an option... sometimes its the hardest option but its still an option. "

Agreed. Life is about choices, make them and face the consequences good or bad.

L

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave. "

What ever circumstances there are preventing someone looking for a way out of a sexless marrage should also prevent them seeking other partners out because the potential fall out could be the same of worse.

If someone wants to come on here to play away then fine but just dont use that as an excuse because really it doesnt stand up to logic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe a lot of the reactions to infidelity are borne out of insecurity in people, play affairs, recreational sex...Oh No, he's a cheating scumbag that will ultimately destroy his family, how fucking antiquated is that...

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships "

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume. "

That statement in itself is laden down in baggage, and what society dictates is acceptable and honourable...how about finding a different fit for the 21st Century

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume.

That statement in itself is laden down in baggage, and what society dictates is acceptable and honourable...how about finding a different fit for the 21st Century "

There is one, we are all free to enter relationships and also to leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave.

What ever circumstances there are preventing someone looking for a way out of a sexless marrage should also prevent them seeking other partners out because the potential fall out could be the same of worse.

If someone wants to come on here to play away then fine but just dont use that as an excuse because really it doesnt stand up to logic"

Excuses rarely do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume.

That statement in itself is laden down in baggage, and what society dictates is acceptable and honourable...how about finding a different fit for the 21st Century

There is one, we are all free to enter relationships and also to leave. "

Indeed, and maybe here is as good a platform as any to discuss this in a broader context..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this has turned into a cheating debate of leave me alone and don't do it . A lack of morals isn't an option to some people and really most here saying it's black and white are correct cos one side who won't and one side who will . At the end of the day it's personal choice and nothing else that brings u to cheating and convincing yourself otherwise is ridiculous as if caught the cheater will be the one crying innocence . If leaving home is never an option then cheating should never be either .

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume.

That statement in itself is laden down in baggage, and what society dictates is acceptable and honourable...how about finding a different fit for the 21st Century "

How about expecting truth and honesty. Thats not baggage my friend but standards. Ive mine, do i allow the opinion of one man change my mind . No. Do i question where hes coming from, yes. Do i expect monagomy in a committed relationship ..not necessarily but i do expect honesty always. You call it baggage i call it standards.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

So much hate for the OP, but seriously. You don’t understand what it’s like unless you’ve lived it.

I have and hes a troll.

Possibly a troll, but the topic is still valid. There are many married with children men/women on here in sexless marriages that have no option to leave.

What ever circumstances there are preventing someone looking for a way out of a sexless marrage should also prevent them seeking other partners out because the potential fall out could be the same of worse.

If someone wants to come on here to play away then fine but just dont use that as an excuse because really it doesnt stand up to logic"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out...

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out..."

Hence the enlightened few swing. Honesty is not puritanucal, its what makes the world go round. Your desire to justify cheating and dishonesty is your buisness. As i said earlier your marital status is none of my buisness just dont be a whinge about it. We shall agree to disagree on this one ... as mature adults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

Assume that if in a committed relationship we should expect honesty and respect ??? I think thats the least we could assume.

That statement in itself is laden down in baggage, and what society dictates is acceptable and honourable...how about finding a different fit for the 21st Century

How about expecting truth and honesty. Thats not baggage my friend but standards. Ive mine, do i allow the opinion of one man change my mind . No. Do i question where hes coming from, yes. Do i expect monagomy in a committed relationship ..not necessarily but i do expect honesty always. You call it baggage i call it standards. "

The title of that movie springs to mind, eyes wide open..or is it shut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out...

Hence the enlightened few swing. Honesty is not puritanucal, its what makes the world go round. Your desire to justify cheating and dishonesty is your buisness. As i said earlier your marital status is none of my buisness just dont be a whinge about it. We shall agree to disagree on this one ... as mature adults. "

Im obviously single, who in their right mind would be bound by that manuscript of the institution of marriage, by the way, i think your missing the point

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out...

Hence the enlightened few swing. Honesty is not puritanucal, its what makes the world go round. Your desire to justify cheating and dishonesty is your buisness. As i said earlier your marital status is none of my buisness just dont be a whinge about it. We shall agree to disagree on this one ... as mature adults.

Im obviously single, who in their right mind would be bound by that manuscript of the institution of marriage, by the way, i think your missing the point "

Im no fan of it myself but that doesn't mean i dont think two people cant be in a committed honest relationship. I just strongly believe in been straight especially when it comes to sexual desire and needs. If yoyr not honest with everyone it'll fail and you will get caught and cause unnessesary hurt. Marraige is just an expensive peice of paper...its commitment that counts and honesty between two people

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By *rBakersMan
over a year ago

dublin/kildare/wicklow

I don't comment on these discussions normally but here it is.....

Every relationship will get "boring" after you've been together for years. Love isn't a feeling it's a commitment to love every day, physically and emotionally.

It's difficult, it's not always laughs, smiles and fun. People tend to quit when it stops being fun and they go look for someone else because the spark is gone.

No! That's not how it works. You want someone to not give up on you and love you unconditionally, then you do the same! Be the change!

This isn't Hollywood, life isn't like the movies. That shit isn't real. Love someone when you don't want to, when they aren't the easiest to deal with. When they are hard to love. That's the realist shit there is!

I think I wandered a bit but cheating is not the answer the fallout is not worth the heartache. IMO OP keep talking to your wife and go get help together!

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over

Nice to see you consider all ladies on fab to be “hoores”.

That’s nice for your only verification to read too "

point out where i said all ladies on fab were hoores..thats your own inference ..please dont try twist what i said to suit your own agenda..I know people like you and i try my best to avoid them at all costs

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over

Nice to see you consider all ladies on fab to be “hoores”.

That’s nice for your only verification to read too

point out where i said all ladies on fab were hoores..thats your own inference ..please dont try twist what i said to suit your own agenda..I know people like you and i try my best to avoid them at all costs "

I agree with you - people will indeed draw their own inference

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over

Nice to see you consider all ladies on fab to be “hoores”.

That’s nice for your only verification to read too

point out where i said all ladies on fab were hoores..thats your own inference ..please dont try twist what i said to suit your own agenda..I know people like you and i try my best to avoid them at all costs

I agree with you - people will indeed draw their own inference "

Indeed

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"Try marriage counselling ..dont be cheating on your wife it'll end in tears..is a quick fumble with some hoore worth risking your life over

Nice to see you consider all ladies on fab to be “hoores”.

That’s nice for your only verification to read too

point out where i said all ladies on fab were hoores..thats your own inference ..please dont try twist what i said to suit your own agenda..I know people like you and i try my best to avoid them at all costs

I agree with you - people will indeed draw their own inference "

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By *ouble Trouble 1000Couple
over a year ago

ireland

Not here to judge you or anyone else ,don't see the point in the thread tbh ,unless it's an" Oh look at me " thread .

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out...

Hence the enlightened few swing. Honesty is not puritanucal, its what makes the world go round. Your desire to justify cheating and dishonesty is your buisness. As i said earlier your marital status is none of my buisness just dont be a whinge about it. We shall agree to disagree on this one ... as mature adults. "

Nothing wrong with honesty but claiming honesty doesn't necessarily get you honesty. Unfortunately we connect ownership and entitlement to a relationship and there it's where it normally goes wrong, where we get vulnerable and hurt. A sense of entitlement is established and upheld by the belief that we are the center of the universe, and if the universe doesn’t meet our needs and desires, all hell will break loose.

In other words tolerance, an open mind and forgiveness will get you closer to honesty than riding on high moral grounds.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"Not here to judge you or anyone else ,don't see the point in the thread tbh ,unless it's an" Oh look at me " thread . "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit. "

Enough moralising, more listening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening "

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe your wife has needs.perhaps you should think how you can be a better husband. And perhaps things might improve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it"

Seek first to understand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

Seek first to understand "

Cheers Yoda will do

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By *nsatiable NurseWoman
over a year ago

Brighton


"We have 4 kids ages between 2 and 8 so divorce is out of the question for me and I actually love my partner.

Poor woman is probably too exhausted for sex "

Exactly! Hope you are able to share the home duties. Nothing sexier than a man reading bedtime stories and putting the kids to bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it"

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words..."

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum "

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad "

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far. "

No wife and kids.

Not so much plain sailing, but who on here has?

I'm not sure how thats relevant though

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"Reeling in the years... this is the same conversation i heard my parents have, and im sure my grandparents outlook on like formed part of their beliefs. Some people seem to forget how much our Society has changed, and continues to change..The pressure on relationships today are vastly different than was the case in my parents generation..We have our collective obsessions to manage today, limited work-life balance, our addictions to work, sex, phones etc etc.. infidelity is a part of life and divorce figures bear this out...

Hence the enlightened few swing. Honesty is not puritanucal, its what makes the world go round. Your desire to justify cheating and dishonesty is your buisness. As i said earlier your marital status is none of my buisness just dont be a whinge about it. We shall agree to disagree on this one ... as mature adults.

Nothing wrong with honesty but claiming honesty doesn't necessarily get you honesty. Unfortunately we connect ownership and entitlement to a relationship and there it's where it normally goes wrong, where we get vulnerable and hurt. A sense of entitlement is established and upheld by the belief that we are the center of the universe, and if the universe doesn’t meet our needs and desires, all hell will break loose.

In other words tolerance, an open mind and forgiveness will get you closer to honesty than riding on high moral grounds. "

I think if you read what im saying this is it. Ive no moral high ground. To each their own. Im not a believer in monagomy . It doesn't work but commitment does. Like i said as far as im concerned honesty causes far less hurt then cheating and lying. Sit down as a couple and discuss sexual desires. Thats it. My moral high ground

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far.

No wife and kids.

Not so much plain sailing, but who on here has?

I'm not sure how thats relevant though"

It is relevant insofar that you haven't walked a mile in ie the op's shoes and yet we feel we can form an opinion on someone's relationship or even judge the person while we don't know the people nor the circumstances involved. As an example there's a post on here saying that the wife is probably too tired having to look after for kids or afraid of getting pregant. How do we know other than a plain assumption it's old fashioned mother looks after the kids while dad is bringing home the money and watches football once he's home. Maube they share the family duties equally or he's even a home dad.

All I'm saying life isn't always straight forward, kids completely change the ball game. I'm not saying this as an excuse for any decisions someone takes in life but fact is it's not just black and white, right or wrong. I'm not on here to moralise or judge anyone I don't know, it's live and let live.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

You have needs, you have needs. Man up! Your wife has needs, she needs a husband who’s not selfish and a cheater. Your children have needs, they need a father that’s not willing to risk the family happiness and security go get his rocks off.

Talk to your wife, jerk off with her beside you and remember that for better or for worse part or just leave. Don’t look for justification here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far.

No wife and kids.

Not so much plain sailing, but who on here has?

I'm not sure how thats relevant though

It is relevant insofar that you haven't walked a mile in ie the op's shoes and yet we feel we can form an opinion on someone's relationship or even judge the person while we don't know the people nor the circumstances involved. As an example there's a post on here saying that the wife is probably too tired having to look after for kids or afraid of getting pregant. How do we know other than a plain assumption it's old fashioned mother looks after the kids while dad is bringing home the money and watches football once he's home. Maube they share the family duties equally or he's even a home dad.

All I'm saying life isn't always straight forward, kids completely change the ball game. I'm not saying this as an excuse for any decisions someone takes in life but fact is it's not just black and white, right or wrong. I'm not on here to moralise or judge anyone I don't know, it's live and let live."

I honestly dont think I need to expiriance every possible situation in life to have an opinion on it.

By all means disagree with me, but its a public forum so I dont think the "if you havent lived it dont comment on it" arguments really works, we could use that for any public discussion and have very boring threads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I honestly dont think I need to expiriance every possible situation in life to have an opinion on it.

By all means disagree with me, but its a public forum so I dont think the "if you havent lived it dont comment on it" arguments really works, we could use that for any public discussion and have very boring threads.

"

This, seems so blatantly obvious doesnt it?

Perhaps what really sticks in people's craws is when someone tries to blame their situation entirely on the party who isn't here to speak for themselves, seems they have no issue in offering that person up for judgement.

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!"

I kno i know ... i got sucked in. Forgive me JD ...its definitely a sligo thread

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!"

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion."

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion."

In fairness this is correct... created a bit of a debate on a sunday. Its a subect that does come up here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why create a thread to do that though. Your seeking approval of some type to justify you want to cheat? Yes I suppose I am.Cheating don't come easy to me if I could find another way to solve this problem believe me I would.

I think divorce has been legalised recently..... the last 20 or so years I believe

Just saying "

and that takes 4 years lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Debate = sanctimonious OP bashing

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"Debate = sanctimonious OP bashing "

I think you need to reread the thread. Some very valid points made, from many different perspectives.

I shall not be drawn in though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Debate = sanctimonious OP bashing

I think you need to reread the thread. Some very valid points made, from many different perspectives.

I shall not be drawn in though "

Especially the start.

These things have a pattern...op bashing, counter opinions, blah blah blah ah sure it's all just a bit of fun.

Fim

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far.

No wife and kids.

Not so much plain sailing, but who on here has?

I'm not sure how thats relevant though

It is relevant insofar that you haven't walked a mile in ie the op's shoes and yet we feel we can form an opinion on someone's relationship or even judge the person while we don't know the people nor the circumstances involved. As an example there's a post on here saying that the wife is probably too tired having to look after for kids or afraid of getting pregant. How do we know other than a plain assumption it's old fashioned mother looks after the kids while dad is bringing home the money and watches football once he's home. Maube they share the family duties equally or he's even a home dad.

All I'm saying life isn't always straight forward, kids completely change the ball game. I'm not saying this as an excuse for any decisions someone takes in life but fact is it's not just black and white, right or wrong. I'm not on here to moralise or judge anyone I don't know, it's live and let live.

I honestly dont think I need to expiriance every possible situation in life to have an opinion on it.

By all means disagree with me, but its a public forum so I dont think the "if you havent lived it dont comment on it" arguments really works, we could use that for any public discussion and have very boring threads.

"

That's not what I said, in no way did I say you shouldn't comment. I simply tried to highlight that a lot of comments are based on assumptions (and it's not aimed at yours in particular) and some are even judgemental also based on assumptions while nobody knows the op. There's no harm in being a bit forgiving by considering that we don't have a full picture.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Debate = sanctimonious OP bashing

I think you need to reread the thread. Some very valid points made, from many different perspectives.

I shall not be drawn in though "

I would agree some very good points made. But there was some very personal attacks on me because people jumped to the wrong conclusion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of peoples comments are based on life experiences they have lived or witnessed people that have being cheated on know the hurt it causes etc so when threads come up about topics they have lived through of course they will be passionate about

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion."

This, besides it's not sligo imo, the profile doesn't match with the ones he sets up but also the op has gone quiet. Just sharpen a bit your observation skills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A lot of peoples comments are based on life experiences they have lived or witnessed people that have being cheated on know the hurt it causes etc so when threads come up about topics they have lived through of course they will be passionate about "

Passionately wrong when they bring their emotional filter to view someone else's world through.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope a public forum is there for u to air your views nobody in there right mind would expect everybody to agree with them on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A lot of peoples comments are based on life experiences they have lived or witnessed people that have being cheated on know the hurt it causes etc so when threads come up about topics they have lived through of course they will be passionate about

Passionately wrong when they bring their emotional filter to view someone else's world through. "

The small bit of one-sided information we got from op is not enough to be able to comment on his situation

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By *kblueeyesCouple
over a year ago

kilkenny

Maybe she's on fab, married woman bored with hubby and getting fucked all round no energy left for hub!! Just saying but she still loves you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the usual black and white reactions and responses when this subject arises.. just maybe, we are being old fashioned and puritanical in our approach to infidelity..maybe it is some of us that need to question our assumptions about relationships

I dont think peoples infidelity is what people react to on here if I am beong honest.

Its the attempts a justification that leads to the topic even being discussed.

I dont think anyone is going around pming any profile that says attached in it.

But when people in any situation in life where they have a hood degree of control over their own actions plays the victim card it wrangles a bit.

Enough moralising, more listening

I have listened to the same thread multiple times.

It still doesnt add up.

As I said I dont care what people are on here for but lets be realistic.

When someone says I am in a sexless marrage and I cannot seperate.

What they mean is I want some/more sex and I also do not want my wife and kids.

Thats fine but its what you want, not some unavoidable situation you have been forced into.

Want is the key word, it the persons own choice.

Just be upfront about it

You suggest people or is it Men your referring to, it gets a bit lost as your post goes on..you believe all family Men dont want their kids if their having sexual relationships outside of marriage? Im somewhat lost for words...

Sorry "do not want to lose wife and kids"

Thanks for the clarification, i was concerned there for a moment that you were being indoctrinated here on this forum

Ah I might be a dick but I'm not that bad

I take it that you have no kids and wife and life was always plain sailing so far.

No wife and kids.

Not so much plain sailing, but who on here has?

I'm not sure how thats relevant though

It is relevant insofar that you haven't walked a mile in ie the op's shoes and yet we feel we can form an opinion on someone's relationship or even judge the person while we don't know the people nor the circumstances involved. As an example there's a post on here saying that the wife is probably too tired having to look after for kids or afraid of getting pregant. How do we know other than a plain assumption it's old fashioned mother looks after the kids while dad is bringing home the money and watches football once he's home. Maube they share the family duties equally or he's even a home dad.

All I'm saying life isn't always straight forward, kids completely change the ball game. I'm not saying this as an excuse for any decisions someone takes in life but fact is it's not just black and white, right or wrong. I'm not on here to moralise or judge anyone I don't know, it's live and let live.

I honestly dont think I need to expiriance every possible situation in life to have an opinion on it.

By all means disagree with me, but its a public forum so I dont think the "if you havent lived it dont comment on it" arguments really works, we could use that for any public discussion and have very boring threads.

That's not what I said, in no way did I say you shouldn't comment. I simply tried to highlight that a lot of comments are based on assumptions (and it's not aimed at yours in particular) and some are even judgemental also based on assumptions while nobody knows the op. There's no harm in being a bit forgiving by considering that we don't have a full picture."

Fair enough

We can take the debate back up when hos wife joins the thread to give her side so

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion.

This, besides it's not sligo imo, the profile doesn't match with the ones he sets up but also the op has gone quiet. Just sharpen a bit your observation skills."

DH .. its sligo

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"If this is a Sligo thread, he's laughing his head off at the effort you've all put into it. He must feel like all his Christmases have come at once!

Maybe, but even if that’s the case it’s interesting to debate a topic that’s common here. Nobody looses by debate and discussion.

This, besides it's not sligo imo, the profile doesn't match with the ones he sets up but also the op has gone quiet. Just sharpen a bit your observation skills.

DH .. its sligo "

Why? Did you get some pms?

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"A lot of peoples comments are based on life experiences they have lived or witnessed people that have being cheated on know the hurt it causes etc so when threads come up about topics they have lived through of course they will be passionate about

Passionately wrong when they bring their emotional filter to view someone else's world through.

The small bit of one-sided information we got from op is not enough to be able to comment on his situation "

this.

Hence why I'm not joining the topic of the thread

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

If you have a 2 year old kid, then you had sex 2 years ago, which means youre doing better than most men on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks to all who give their opinions I appreciate the feedback. Some of the posts I wasn't very sure what they meant but overall I found it ok response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder what the opinions would be like if a woman put up the same thread!!!!????? "
it would be the very same in my opinion they both in the wrong man or woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks to all who give their opinions I appreciate the feedback. Some of the posts I wasn't very sure what they meant but overall I found it ok response."
are you pissing with me you werent sure what they meant your in the WRONG go sort it out with your wife and help her with the 4 kids you helped make

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thanks to all who give their opinions I appreciate the feedback. Some of the posts I wasn't very sure what they meant but overall I found it ok response.are you pissing with me you werent sure what they meant your in the WRONG go sort it out with your wife and help her with the 4 kids you helped make"
No sorry I except people's opinions.But it's just a few got very personal and name calling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day ye can be married or single on here it still doesn't guarantee anymore sex then ye are getting already from your Mrs

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

OP ..... The grass is not greener on the other side ....

Be careful what you wish for , you could easily end up being on your own .... no wife , no kids , no home .....

Be a man and share the responsibility with your wife ....looking after children is exhausting .... but please treasure what you have ...

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