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"Have you shown solidarity. Knickers can't speak and nor can they consent. " We don't have to show it when you wear them | |||
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"Its actually really disturbing.... So do shops need to ask ID when selling certain underware to women as clearly they mean sex. " And if your wearing a certain style of underwear and you are assaulted your asking for it. This is the standard of law making in this 21st 1st world country. Pay enough money you can destroy a young life | |||
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"Just cos a lady wants to dress sexy people think she is looking for sex they say . A woman dresses sexy to feel good about herself and it does not mean she is looking for sex " certainly not for unconsented sex or Vergewaltigung ( the English word is restricted on this site , stupid rule that is) | |||
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"Disgrace that outcome just tell you if u pay a top barrister what u can get away with ." I doubt he was found innocent on that one statement relating to her underwear. An outrages statement for any barrister or solicitor to make but there was many facts that we never heard that contributed to the verdict. The man is innocent of R@pe. That was the judgement of a 12 person jury who heard all the facts. The topic at hand here is the statement made on the underwear. | |||
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"Im lost what is this about" Have u been asleep the past week | |||
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"Im lost what is this about Have u been asleep the past week " No sorry dunno what this is about i know ita about r but didnt see the article or news about it | |||
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"Im lost what is this about Have u been asleep the past week No sorry dunno what this is about i know ita about r but didnt see the article or news about it" Basically a r@pe case in cork that was in court last week and in the closing statement the barrister for the accused said something along the lines of " the jury should take into account that the accuser (victim) was wearing a kickers with a lacy front" Making out that she was looking for sex coz of what she was wearing and it wasn't r@pe becuase she had sexy underwear on. | |||
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"Disgrace that outcome just tell you if u pay a top barrister what u can get away with . I doubt he was found innocent on that one statement relating to her underwear. An outrages statement for any barrister or solicitor to make but there was many facts that we never heard that contributed to the verdict. The man is innocent of R@pe. That was the judgement of a 12 person jury who heard all the facts. The topic at hand here is the statement made on the underwear. " He has indeed provided enough evidence to state he didn't assult the young lady and shes been proven guilty if wearing slutty underwear. In a modern country what happened is beyond reproach. Once again women are held to account and shamed for the clothes we wear, how we behave, what we drink and now what knickers we wear. Equality where is it ?? | |||
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"Im lost what is this about Have u been asleep the past week No sorry dunno what this is about i know ita about r but didnt see the article or news about it Basically a r@pe case in cork that was in court last week and in the closing statement the barrister for the accused said something along the lines of " the jury should take into account that the accuser (victim) was wearing a kickers with a lacy front" Making out that she was looking for sex coz of what she was wearing and it wasn't r@pe becuase she had sexy underwear on. " The victim was 17 | |||
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"Disgrace that outcome just tell you if u pay a top barrister what u can get away with . I doubt he was found innocent on that one statement relating to her underwear. An outrages statement for any barrister or solicitor to make but there was many facts that we never heard that contributed to the verdict. The man is innocent of R@pe. That was the judgement of a 12 person jury who heard all the facts. The topic at hand here is the statement made on the underwear. He has indeed provided enough evidence to state he didn't assult the young lady and shes been proven guilty if wearing slutty underwear. In a modern country what happened is beyond reproach. Once again women are held to account and shamed for the clothes we wear, how we behave, what we drink and now what knickers we wear. Equality where is it ??" I agree with all u say. I was referencing the other comment. This thread is about the outrages comment the barrister made, not about the guy who was accused and found innocent. That case should be closed now and moved onto the bigger picture in all of this. Underwear or lack of underwear is not consent. Has to be some reform now in the legal system and the victims clothing can not be brought up in any way in court, and to make it worse the barrister was female | |||
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"Disgrace that outcome just tell you if u pay a top barrister what u can get away with . I doubt he was found innocent on that one statement relating to her underwear. An outrages statement for any barrister or solicitor to make but there was many facts that we never heard that contributed to the verdict. The man is innocent of R@pe. That was the judgement of a 12 person jury who heard all the facts. The topic at hand here is the statement made on the underwear. He has indeed provided enough evidence to state he didn't assult the young lady and shes been proven guilty if wearing slutty underwear. In a modern country what happened is beyond reproach. Once again women are held to account and shamed for the clothes we wear, how we behave, what we drink and now what knickers we wear. Equality where is it ?? I agree with all u say. I was referencing the other comment. This thread is about the outrages comment the barrister made, not about the guy who was accused and found innocent. That case should be closed now and moved onto the bigger picture in all of this. Underwear or lack of underwear is not consent. Has to be some reform now in the legal system and the victims clothing can not be brought up in any way in court, and to make it worse the barrister was female " I truly hope it is a career destroying move on her part. Reform is definitly needed. As was said ...clothes do not cause ra@e, alcohol does not cause ra@e, ra@ists cause ra@e. I just hope this girl, child, had the right support around her. | |||
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"Have you shown solidarity. Knickers can't speak and nor can they consent. We don't have to show it when you wear them" Apologies.. glimpsed at the start of the threadso misunderstood the context | |||
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"I thought he was found guilty?" No. Innocent. | |||
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"Have you shown solidarity. Knickers can't speak and nor can they consent. We don't have to show it when you wear them Apologies.. glimpsed at the start of the threadso misunderstood the context " Its ok | |||
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"I've done jury duty myself and still have some faith in the Irish judicial system. Unfortunately however, it's common for defending Barristers to resort to name calling, dismissive remarks and outlandish comments... ..but for any Defending Barrister or woman to make such an insensitive, irrelevant and dispicable remark as: "You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front" ...absolutely gobsmacked here " Me too and as a woman these cases dont encourage faith in the system. What if was your daughter or yourself... would you have faith in the system or do what women have done for generations, not reported it. My heart is broken for victims | |||
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"You get found not guilty, you don't get found innocent. " We're discussing the barristers comments about the girls underwear | |||
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"You get found not guilty, you don't get found innocent. We're discussing the barristers comments about the girls underwear" Which were a disgrace. Down there with the lows of that case in Kerry a few years back where the parish lined up to shake the hand of an accused rapist. | |||
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"You get found not guilty, you don't get found innocent. " In this country u are innocent untill found guilty or not guilty | |||
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"I've done jury duty myself and still have some faith in the Irish judicial system. Unfortunately however, it's common for defending Barristers to resort to name calling, dismissive remarks and outlandish comments... ..but for any Defending Barrister or woman to make such an insensitive, irrelevant and dispicable remark as: "You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front" ...absolutely gobsmacked here Me too and as a woman these cases dont encourage faith in the system. What if was your daughter or yourself... would you have faith in the system or do what women have done for generations, not reported it. My heart is broken for victims " ------------------------- There was 8 men and 4 women on that jury so you would like to think that that comment was brought up then immediately dismissed by the jury while deliberating... Maybe by this story getting all the media attention it deserves, it will send out a clear message that - Barristers should be named, shamed & made more accountable for any dismissive, bitchy or outlandish comments they make - and that in the future, victims of sexual assault will realise that they should not feel guilty about a crime being committed based on what they were wearing at the time... Here's hoping anyway | |||
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"I've done jury duty myself and still have some faith in the Irish judicial system. Unfortunately however, it's common for defending Barristers to resort to name calling, dismissive remarks and outlandish comments... ..but for any Defending Barrister or woman to make such an insensitive, irrelevant and dispicable remark as: "You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front" ...absolutely gobsmacked here " But its through out the judicial system, nothing amazes me to the lengths some barrister's will go to win a case...that's complete desensitisation, Just another dollar just another day, just another r##e case | |||
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"You get found not guilty, you don't get found innocent. In this country u are innocent untill found guilty or not guilty " Unless your a woman in a ra@e case | |||
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"You get found not guilty, you don't get found innocent. In this country u are innocent untill found guilty or not guilty Unless your a woman in a ra@e case" I am not talking about this case as i do not think its the place to do it just pointing out a fact of law to a contributor on the thread the barrister was a disgrace no question | |||
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"Disgrace that outcome just tell you if u pay a top barrister what u can get away with . I doubt he was found innocent on that one statement relating to her underwear. An outrages statement for any barrister or solicitor to make but there was many facts that we never heard that contributed to the verdict. The man is innocent of R@pe. That was the judgement of a 12 person jury who heard all the facts. The topic at hand here is the statement made on the underwear. " I totally agree with you well said | |||
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"The barrister that made the statement is in my opinion an asshole and the judge is 100 times as bad for allowing the statement be made." In a nutshell my feelings as well | |||
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"The barrister was just doing their job. Not a big fan of mob justice. I was the victim of a crime. Mugged, assaulted, threatened to give me HIV, and hit with a car. The hit from the car left me bloodied, clothes torn, cuts on my knees, hands, elbows, face cut up, covered in blood. The bang to the head left me not knowing where I was or what I was doing, and I walked the streets of Dublin for about 2 hours and got no help from anyone, even though I stopped people and asked them how do I get home. Multiple people asked me for money to get me home, to get a taxi for me, when I informed them I was hurt because I was mugged they walked off. Anyway, when it was all done and dusted, They blamed the fact I had a drink, and what I was wearing, and i was flashing an expensive phone, and it was never taken any further by the cops. This is Ireland, to get justice you have to be lucky, and it's not a conspiracy against women. Lets flip it around. You head back to a girls place, things going well, she slips out of her dress and shes wearing sexy underwear.. Do you take this as a sign to go for sex? Lets say you do and she doesn't say no, and sex goes on. The sex isn't great she just lays there. You finish, and there is a bit of an akward feeling. You think you're shit at sex and make your exuses to leave feeling embarrassed by your performance. Next day cops knock at your door and your hauled infront of a judge. Do you want your barrister to say that she sat on your lap wearing sexy underwear? Do you think your barrister should legally be told this is an illegal statement to make? I'm not saying that's what happened. I am saying it might be relevant to some cases to say what people were wearing, and how d*unk they were. It was used against me and I admit it might be relevant in some cases, even though its unfair in others." Very good points there | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone." How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice" He is trolling as usual. Don't rise to the bait | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice" Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves." So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day " Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves." Then the Troll rushed at Big Billy Goat Gruff who bent his head and bravely charged at the Troll, catching him up in his horns and tossing him into the stream below. The Troll disappeared under the rushing water, never to be seen again. From then on, anyone could cross the bridge and enjoy the sweet green grass with the Three Billy Goats Gruff. | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing." Why you still here perving so | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so " That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother! | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so " Interesting reply. | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother!" Insulting me don't change the fact that if you don't respect yourself you can hardly blame others if they don't respect you. | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother! Insulting me don't change the fact that if you don't respect yourself you can hardly blame others if they don't respect you." It might have actually been a compliment. I don't know you domestic situation! You are a parasitic poster, in that, you latch on to a topic then proceed to drain it of energy and life. Here is a serious topic and you've hijacked the thread, presumably for your own gratification or entertainment. I'm actually not going to rise to it so I'll let you get back to hate fucking your pillow while you listen to the crying game soundtrack on repeat. Rhett | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother! Insulting me don't change the fact that if you don't respect yourself you can hardly blame others if they don't respect you. It might have actually been a compliment. I don't know you domestic situation! You are a parasitic poster, in that, you latch on to a topic then proceed to drain it of energy and life. Here is a serious topic and you've hijacked the thread, presumably for your own gratification or entertainment. I'm actually not going to rise to it so I'll let you get back to hate fucking your pillow while you listen to the crying game soundtrack on repeat. Rhett" I applaud you Rhett ... | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother! Insulting me don't change the fact that if you don't respect yourself you can hardly blame others if they don't respect you. It might have actually been a compliment. I don't know you domestic situation! You are a parasitic poster, in that, you latch on to a topic then proceed to drain it of energy and life. Here is a serious topic and you've hijacked the thread, presumably for your own gratification or entertainment. I'm actually not going to rise to it so I'll let you get back to hate fucking your pillow while you listen to the crying game soundtrack on repeat. Rhett" It's not me that's throwing the insulating language around.lf people don't like what I have to say don't respond.But the truth hurts us all sometimes. | |||
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"What were the grounds for the not guilty vote? I'd imagine that the jury (like everyone else) instantly saw through the irrelevance of what underwear she had on. In other words...was the decision hinged on the underwear or were there more substantive factors?" yes this is the important part not what tabloit and media says, remember is the veredict of 12 people can they all be wrong? surely there was more than a pair of sexy underwear! i dont know now! obviously is a sad case for both as if she was truly rpe is horrible but if he is innocent he will forever be a rapist anyways! is a very difficult situation but if he was guilty he should be punish , i just dont know how 12 people can get wrong | |||
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"What were the grounds for the not guilty vote? I'd imagine that the jury (like everyone else) instantly saw through the irrelevance of what underwear she had on. In other words...was the decision hinged on the underwear or were there more substantive factors? yes this is the important part not what tabloit and media says, remember is the veredict of 12 people can they all be wrong? surely there was more than a pair of sexy underwear! i dont know now! obviously is a sad case for both as if she was truly rpe is horrible but if he is innocent he will forever be a rapist anyways! is a very difficult situation but if he was guilty he should be punish , i just dont know how 12 people can get wrong " The DPP obviously thought there was a case to be heard and charges were brought and the justice system then determined guilt on facts that were put before the jury and the judge. My understanding is they unanimously found the defendant not guilty. I don't know if there was a lack of evidence that they couldn't prove r@pe had occurred. Here lies the problem, should what a woman is wearing be admissible in court. That wearing a short skirt or a red thong etc means a woman is seeking and consenting to sex. I will say that the DPP would most probably not bring proceedings forward if a woman from this site was a victim of that crime. Why? Because of the nature of the site. The photos that women publicly display. Our conversations in mail about wanting sex, how we like sex etc. Just because we are on this site does that mean consent? No. But the reality is it will be seen as such. Same as wearing a red thong is in this case, in a court it will be made out you were seeking sex. | |||
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" I will say that the DPP would most probably not bring proceedings forward if a woman from this site was a victim of that crime. Why? Because of the nature of the site. The photos that women publicly display. Our conversations in mail about wanting sex, how we like sex etc. Just because we are on this site does that mean consent? No. But the reality is it will be seen as such. Same as wearing a red thong is in this case, in a court it will be made out you were seeking sex." You make a good point but society today is fairly enlightened I think/hope. Discussion of sex in the media and in general is fairly open including threesomes and BDSM stuff. Sex shops are commonplace and people get that no means no. The principles of let he/she who has not sinned throw the first stone stills works. Everyone has a fetish and there aren't too many "innocent" people about. | |||
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"You make a good point but society today is fairly enlightened I think/hope. Discussion of sex in the media and in general is fairly open including threesomes and BDSM stuff. Sex shops are commonplace and people get that no means no. The principles of let he/she who has not sinned throw the first stone stills works. Everyone has a fetish and there aren't too many "innocent" people about." No the DPP will 100% not bring it to court if you have a fetish/sex account online and the person who did it knows. The only way they will is if you have a witness, or if it was very violent. If it is a he said/she said and you are on sex sites it will be dropped. My case was dropped because I was the only witness and I was unreliable (had a drink and was concussed). The fact people are more knowing stands against a woman, not for her. The jury knows what bdsm is, know what spanks are, know what a bit of rough is, so when she says it was rough, the jury wont see it as a crime just because of that. There are lots of things that can be done, for example switching from "No means no", to "yes means yes" would offer more protection. Manslaughter charges for a man who gets a woman pregnant and the baby is aborted. Women are not interested in them, they are more interested in a 16 year old being able to hide the evidence with an abortion without telling parents, and demonstrating against a barrister who just did their job. | |||
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" I will say that the DPP would most probably not bring proceedings forward if a woman from this site was a victim of that crime. Why? Because of the nature of the site. The photos that women publicly display. Our conversations in mail about wanting sex, how we like sex etc. Just because we are on this site does that mean consent? No. But the reality is it will be seen as such. Same as wearing a red thong is in this case, in a court it will be made out you were seeking sex. You make a good point but society today is fairly enlightened I think/hope. Discussion of sex in the media and in general is fairly open including threesomes and BDSM stuff. Sex shops are commonplace and people get that no means no. The principles of let he/she who has not sinned throw the first stone stills works. Everyone has a fetish and there aren't too many "innocent" people about." It is a lovely thought but sadly far from the reality. All that has been accomplished is a 17 year old, not trusted with the sense to vote, has been victim blamed, that she got her comeuppance because of her choice of underwear. Made even worse I feel because the victim blaming came from a female barrister. Maybe as a society we can do more as you say. | |||
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"The barrister was just doing their job. Not a big fan of mob justice. I was the victim of a crime. Mugged, assaulted, threatened to give me HIV, and hit with a car. The hit from the car left me bloodied, clothes torn, cuts on my knees, hands, elbows, face cut up, covered in blood. The bang to the head left me not knowing where I was or what I was doing, and I walked the streets of Dublin for about 2 hours and got no help from anyone, even though I stopped people and asked them how do I get home. Multiple people asked me for money to get me home, to get a taxi for me, when I informed them I was hurt because I was mugged they walked off. Anyway, when it was all done and dusted, They blamed the fact I had a drink, and what I was wearing, and i was flashing an expensive phone, and it was never taken any further by the cops. This is Ireland, to get justice you have to be lucky, and it's not a conspiracy against women. Lets flip it around. You head back to a girls place, things going well, she slips out of her dress and shes wearing sexy underwear.. Do you take this as a sign to go for sex? Lets say you do and she doesn't say no, and sex goes on. The sex isn't great she just lays there. You finish, and there is a bit of an akward feeling. You think you're shit at sex and make your exuses to leave feeling embarrassed by your performance. Next day cops knock at your door and your hauled infront of a judge. Do you want your barrister to say that she sat on your lap wearing sexy underwear? Do you think your barrister should legally be told this is an illegal statement to make? I'm not saying that's what happened. I am saying it might be relevant to some cases to say what people were wearing, and how d*unk they were. It was used against me and I admit it might be relevant in some cases, even though its unfair in others." This is a 17 year old girl, its unacceptable for this to hapoen in a court of law. Ill reference a similar case in england a few years ago where a teen girls underwear was held up and she was forced go read out the slogan on them. .. little devil .... two weeks later she committed suicide. This was immoral behaviour from the defence male or female. Im sorry you'd such a horrible experience and were shown such little compassion | |||
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"No one has the right to make judgement on another by the clothing they are wearing.But having said that I don't think people on here are in a very good position to give advice to anyone. How do u make that out people on here not in a very good postion to give advice Lack of clothing by most people on here not exactly setting a good example of themselves or respect for themselves. So reading back on ur previous post .ur taking back what u said in the first part of ur post.well done lol have a happy throlling day Big difference between having everything on show and wearing sexy underwear underneath your clothing. Why you still here perving so That is the mystery as he said that he has no interest in couple and doesn't condone pussy pictures in his OP generated thread that ladies should cover their 'pit if despair'. As such, I suspect he signed up to the wrong fab site. That, or he operates a road side motel with his mother! Insulting me don't change the fact that if you don't respect yourself you can hardly blame others if they don't respect you. It might have actually been a compliment. I don't know you domestic situation! You are a parasitic poster, in that, you latch on to a topic then proceed to drain it of energy and life. Here is a serious topic and you've hijacked the thread, presumably for your own gratification or entertainment. I'm actually not going to rise to it so I'll let you get back to hate fucking your pillow while you listen to the crying game soundtrack on repeat. Rhett" Well said rhett .. | |||
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"What were the grounds for the not guilty vote? I'd imagine that the jury (like everyone else) instantly saw through the irrelevance of what underwear she had on. In other words...was the decision hinged on the underwear or were there more substantive factors?" Irregardless of the verdict its unacceptable to use a womans underwear in a case and say it was her fault. Its victim shaming. | |||
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"What were the grounds for the not guilty vote? I'd imagine that the jury (like everyone else) instantly saw through the irrelevance of what underwear she had on. In other words...was the decision hinged on the underwear or were there more substantive factors? Irregardless of the verdict its unacceptable to use a womans underwear in a case and say it was her fault. Its victim shaming. " | |||
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"What were the grounds for the not guilty vote? I'd imagine that the jury (like everyone else) instantly saw through the irrelevance of what underwear she had on. In other words...was the decision hinged on the underwear or were there more substantive factors? Irregardless of the verdict its unacceptable to use a womans underwear in a case and say it was her fault. Its victim shaming. " I agree, very poor behaviour for the solicitor and judge but like with everything it's good to try and filter out the facts from the emotive noise. The flip side is the the defendant will be forever presumed guilty by many regardless of the verdict thanks to the media attention. @devilyouknow it's purely your opinion about what the DPP will bring to court. I like to attribute them with some general intelligence and a sense of right or wrong, while acknowledging that mistakes happen and bad decisions get made too. | |||
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" Manslaughter charges for a man who gets a woman pregnant and the baby is aborted. " Wtf sort of madness is this??? | |||
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" Manslaughter charges for a man who gets a woman pregnant and the baby is aborted. Wtf sort of madness is this??? " Just agenda pushing. | |||
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