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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people should do whatever makes them happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)"
Isn't that more a British tradition.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please) Isn't that more a British tradition."
Yes but shouldn't we remember the 50,000 Irishmen killed in ww1

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think people should do whatever makes them happy. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

It isn't just about ww1 like it should be,it commemorates British soldiers that died in all wars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please) Isn't that more a British tradition. Yes but shouldn't we remember the 50,000 Irishmen killed in ww1"
Yes we should but we don't need to wear a poppy to do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)"

Its a complex issue. Even down to the type of poppy that you wear.

Peoples issue is that the common poppy which is used as a findraiser for the Royal British legion commemorates soilders who have died in all British conflicts which includes those on Irish soil.

There is alot too it which I would not get bogged down in on a fab forum. Maybe just do your research and make your own decision on it. Most importantly is the spirit in which you wear it, just be aware of what it means for some people.

Also Ireland has a day of commemoration in July if you really feel the need to commemorate Irish soilders who died in service

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)"

Personally I believe people should just move on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people should do what they feel like doing. Pressuring people to wear a poppy or turning it into a political symbol surely goes entirely against the spirit of the idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)"

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I am just looking for opinions which were all entitled too im definitely not trying to force opinions on anyone. I agree with the post above its time to move on

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By *exwaterCouple
over a year ago

waterford


"I think people should do what they feel like doing. Pressuring people to wear a poppy or turning it into a political symbol surely goes entirely against the spirit of the idea.

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Yes i have to agree. Its to honor the fallen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday "
James McClean is a proud Irishman and not afraid to show it.

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By *exyDownUnderWoman
over a year ago

Westmeath

The 11th November is Remembrance Day. Its for the Commonwealth of Nations, a day that started at the end of the First World War.

Fyi ... Its not just for the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 11th November is Remembrance Day. Its for the Commonwealth of Nations, a day that started at the end of the First World War.

Fyi ... Its not just for the UK."

The commonwealth! As in, all former colonies of the british empire...

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

My uncle went to work in the UK in the late 30s. As no work here .he joined the British army and went to war .he was killed in the evacuation of Dunkirk...my family got a lot of stick years ago for wearing the poppy .So they remembered him in private ..As he never came hom

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By *ecentguy321Man
over a year ago

nearby

Its a personal choice. The proceeds from the poppy sales in the uk go to british veterans. Some of which served in the north and killed irish citizens. Its hard to support that if you have a connection to those that died

Not wearing one, does not mean you cant remember those that fought and lost their lives in WW1 & 2

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

If the British government didn't have such blind support from its people the world wouldn't be in half the mess it is

The poppy shows support for all past British wars and the soldiers who fought in them,including the illegal wars that killed millions of innocent people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday "

And I 100% agree with him. You couldn't pay me to wear it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday "

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made "

I agree its his choice and he should not get any abuse for it.

His justification and constant quoteing of Irish Freedom fighters wrangles a little bit though when he is making a nice living in the country he has such issues with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made

I agree its his choice and he should not get any abuse for it.

His justification and constant quoteing of Irish Freedom fighters wrangles a little bit though when he is making a nice living in the country he has such issues with."

Are you then suggesting that he shouldnt offend the hand that feeds him. Is McCleans actions any different to the politics and patriotism attached to the poppy and shoved in your face the way the brits do..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made

I agree its his choice and he should not get any abuse for it.

His justification and constant quoteing of Irish Freedom fighters wrangles a little bit though when he is making a nice living in the country he has such issues with.

Are you then suggesting that he shouldnt offend the hand that feeds him. Is McCleans actions any different to the politics and patriotism attached to the poppy and shoved in your face the way the brits do.."

Thats actually not what I am suggesting at all.

Some of Mcleans tweets when he has let his emotions get the better of him have been very anti british, and whether you agree with him or not, if he feels that srongly about it I find it hard to see how he can live and work in a place he has such strong convictions against.

The brits dont shove the poppy in my face here, only in the british products I choose to consume

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made

I agree its his choice and he should not get any abuse for it.

His justification and constant quoteing of Irish Freedom fighters wrangles a little bit though when he is making a nice living in the country he has such issues with.

Are you then suggesting that he shouldnt offend the hand that feeds him. Is McCleans actions any different to the politics and patriotism attached to the poppy and shoved in your face the way the brits do..

Thats actually not what I am suggesting at all.

Some of Mcleans tweets when he has let his emotions get the better of him have been very anti british, and whether you agree with him or not, if he feels that srongly about it I find it hard to see how he can live and work in a place he has such strong convictions against.

The brits dont shove the poppy in my face here, only in the british products I choose to consume

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And if you choose to watch the xfactor (i appreciate its not a great example we will have the usual hypocricy of Irish contestants who would not normally wear a poppy, having one attached to their lapel, as its a requirement from both the bbc and itv..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what peoples views on wearing a poppy in my understanding its to commemorate all those who have died in war, which would include a vast number of Irish men which if it is correct i would have no problem in wearing them being a proud Irish man. ( just a question no abuse please)

Its seen by some as a symbol of britishness, representing support for the british army. James McClean has been receiving death threats since 2012 for his refusal to wear one on the football pitch, and came in for a lot of abuse last week for his continued refusal to wear one, he believes to wear one would be akin to supporting british soliers who served in NI, and believes it would disrespect those killed in his hometown on Bloody Sunday

Absolutely disgraceful the abuse he's getting and the death threats against him and his family! 100% back his decision and the choice he has made

I agree its his choice and he should not get any abuse for it.

His justification and constant quoteing of Irish Freedom fighters wrangles a little bit though when he is making a nice living in the country he has such issues with.

Are you then suggesting that he shouldnt offend the hand that feeds him. Is McCleans actions any different to the politics and patriotism attached to the poppy and shoved in your face the way the brits do..

Thats actually not what I am suggesting at all.

Some of Mcleans tweets when he has let his emotions get the better of him have been very anti british, and whether you agree with him or not, if he feels that srongly about it I find it hard to see how he can live and work in a place he has such strong convictions against.

The brits dont shove the poppy in my face here, only in the british products I choose to consume

And if you choose to watch the xfactor (i appreciate its not a great example we will have the usual hypocricy of Irish contestants who would not normally wear a poppy, having one attached to their lapel, as its a requirement from both the bbc and itv.."

And they can choose not to compete in a British TV show if they feel so strongly about it, that is the only point I was trying to make... tbh you have me thrown with xfactor

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities "

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?"

I'm far too old to feed trolls - I leave that to the more naive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?

I'm far too old to feed trolls - I leave that to the more naive "

Really though? Nothing above qualifies as bigotry in my understanding of it.

If you have an opinion please share it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?

I'm far too old to feed trolls - I leave that to the more naive "

You obviously need to look up the defenition of bigotry. There was a discussion of views taking place on this thread, and rather than contribute anything meaningful to that discussion you chose to make a comment about your block button, as if it is a loaded gun that you wield here. May i suggest, that if you dont understand a particular topic, then pass the thread by, you dont want to be shooting yourself in the foot with that gun

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?

I'm far too old to feed trolls - I leave that to the more naive

You obviously need to look up the defenition of bigotry. There was a discussion of views taking place on this thread, and rather than contribute anything meaningful to that discussion you chose to make a comment about your block button, as if it is a loaded gun that you wield here. May i suggest, that if you dont understand a particular topic, then pass the thread by, you dont want to be shooting yourself in the foot with that gun "

Thanks for your advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a great post to identify further bigot blocking opportunities

And where exactly is the biigotry in this thread?

I'm far too old to feed trolls - I leave that to the more naive

You obviously need to look up the defenition of bigotry. There was a discussion of views taking place on this thread, and rather than contribute anything meaningful to that discussion you chose to make a comment about your block button, as if it is a loaded gun that you wield here. May i suggest, that if you dont understand a particular topic, then pass the thread by, you dont want to be shooting yourself in the foot with that gun

Thanks for your advice"

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

I think everyone should cool down .let's live and let live

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

In my opinion it commemorates British and only British soldiers who died, and all funds from it go toward helping people injured in current Brtish conflicts.

It does not remember all those who died, it does not remember the innocent people, just british who fought and died.

We have our own day in Ireland that remembers every soul lost in every war. It includes everyone on all sides of the war. I would rather that.

By that logic I should donate to the Russian army, they did a lot to save us too.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx

My view is it commemorates british soldiers lost in battle. I feel conflicted about this. How many brave irishmen died under the banner of the british army. These young men were our country men and for many years they weren't honoured in this country, now these men are honoured in our own commemorative day. These men died fighting and most never came home. I may not wear the poppy but i will honour them and remember their sacrifice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Entirely against the British Legion poppy as it glorifies the British army in Ireland, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

I wear the white poppy for peace. It's getting more popular and a much better message.

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By *ysteryman2009Man
over a year ago

Ireland

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over a year ago

Ireland

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx


"If people want to wear a garden to honor brittish soldiers thats their choice not mine.My memory is ot it growing wild in the garden as a .I would like to see irish soldiers who fought in ww1 have their own symbol to honor them."

Id like to see this too.

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By *ysteryman2009Man
over a year ago

Ireland

If people want to wear a garden to honor brittish soldiers , thats their choice.Personaly I would not wear a poppy.It reminds me of the growing in the garden that I wanted to get rid of.I would prefer an Irish symbol honoring those Irish men who fought in WWI.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

James mc clean summed it up perfectly last year.

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By *BelfastGuyMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Should be a choice. No one should be made to wear one. It's the armed forces way of making war excceptable. Same as American having the anthem sang before games. To me there has been no just war. Us and GB invade countries for profit. Taking their oil gold and whatever they can get their hands on plus selling arms to the saudis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be wearing a Poppy. I will also be attending a Rememerance day service in memory of my Grandfather who fought in WW2.. No one should be forced to wear a Poppy if the dont wish to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every year we have the poppy debate.

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