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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No harm. It's simple you don't drink and drive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering."

Never ever understood the thinking behind allowing any amount of drink and then drive. The law should have been complete ban on it from the start.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fully agree with the drink driving laws, i dont think anyone should drive after having any to drink at all. The next morning is a killer and where most people get caught.

Its strange though because years ago fellas would drive home after a skin full of pints and you would hear very little about crashes/deaths due to drink driving. I know alot is to do with the increase in the number of cars on the road but still its a little bit strange

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There should be a zero amount level law. Even half a pint can affect your driving if it clashes with some meds. Legally you would be under the limit yet still off your melon behind the wheel.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The limit is lower for learner drivers and professional drivers, at a blood alcohol level of 20mg. One standard drink is considered enough to put someone at risk of going over the limit, which includes a glass of beer, a small glass of wine or a pub measure of spirits.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman
over a year ago

wexford

As it should be..

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering."

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us "

Far right nut jobs? Ireland is quite literally running itself into the ground Because few folks like yourself who share your attitude and opinion sure ‘will be grand’. If you were to loose a family member on the road who was not drinking but just in their car but hit by some one after 2/3 pints? Would you see the harm in it then? The eejits ruining it for people are those who don’t see the problem in the first place or who are unwilling to actually deal with it, that attitude twords drink in Ireland is shocking and has destroyed thousands of lives but fuck it ‘be grand’

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I've no issues with stricter driving regulations if they make the roads a safer place.

Just remember texting and driving is 6times more dangerous than drinking and driving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about a ban if caught on phone what yer thoughts on that ? Or a ban if your caught doing more than 10k over the speed limit ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've no issues with stricter driving regulations if they make the roads a safer place.

Just remember texting and driving is 6times more dangerous than drinking and driving. "

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Never ever understood the thinking behind allowing any amount of drink and then drive. The law should have been complete ban on it from the start. "

This ^^

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The law should be zero alcohol and anyone who drives after any consumption is a muppet and should have the car taken,sold off and the money put into a fund to help people who have suffered at the hands of these idiots.

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us

Far right nut jobs? Ireland is quite literally running itself into the ground Because few folks like yourself who share your attitude and opinion sure ‘will be grand’. If you were to loose a family member on the road who was not drinking but just in their car but hit by some one after 2/3 pints? Would you see the harm in it then? The eejits ruining it for people are those who don’t see the problem in the first place or who are unwilling to actually deal with it, that attitude twords drink in Ireland is shocking and has destroyed thousands of lives but fuck it ‘be grand’ "

Well said. Young man.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us

Far right nut jobs? Ireland is quite literally running itself into the ground Because few folks like yourself who share your attitude and opinion sure ‘will be grand’. If you were to loose a family member on the road who was not drinking but just in their car but hit by some one after 2/3 pints? Would you see the harm in it then? The eejits ruining it for people are those who don’t see the problem in the first place or who are unwilling to actually deal with it, that attitude twords drink in Ireland is shocking and has destroyed thousands of lives but fuck it ‘be grand’ "

In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere

There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us

Far right nut jobs? Ireland is quite literally running itself into the ground Because few folks like yourself who share your attitude and opinion sure ‘will be grand’. If you were to loose a family member on the road who was not drinking but just in their car but hit by some one after 2/3 pints? Would you see the harm in it then? The eejits ruining it for people are those who don’t see the problem in the first place or who are unwilling to actually deal with it, that attitude twords drink in Ireland is shocking and has destroyed thousands of lives but fuck it ‘be grand’

In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland "

Sorry mate but cannot agree with you there. If the local pub wants to charge a few euro to each customer and organise a shuttle bus then that's fine. Be it in the middle of nowhere or be it in the middle of a city..you climb into a car to drive it while you have alcohol on board you are committing a crime. You may kill or seriously injure yourself or somebody else. Lost a beautiful intelligent niece to a drink drive 7 years ago the night before she was to head to the States to study. Broke so many close to her and continues to do so today. Have a drink but leave the car behind.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of. "

Dont agree many old farmers are decent hard working people and they should be allowed to drive home from the pub aftera few pints..do you live in Dublin yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of. "

Thats sums it up really

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The amendment to the law that deals with learner drivers is named after the Clancy family, who lost two members in a road traffic tragedy almost three years ago involving an unaccompanied learner driver

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about a ban if caught on phone what yer thoughts on that ? Or a ban if your caught doing more than 10k over the speed limit ? "

Agree...if on phone loose your licence for 2 years and do a retest.

Speed limit....I've raised this on here before and mentioned it to local government, we have the technology in every new car already that can restrict your speed to the maximum of the road one is on. So when one enters a 30 from a 60, a signal is sent to the vehicle which governs it's speed from the speed sign. The same applies as you exit. Obviously emergency service vehicles have over ride system. Would save billions in accidents, insurance,nhs, reduce the need of policing, and strops criminalising of drivers etc etc.... and would save lives.

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"The amendment to the law that deals with learner drivers is named after the Clancy family, who lost two members in a road traffic tragedy almost three years ago involving an unaccompanied learner driver"

To be honest I think learner/novice drivers get a bad deal. Most are better more confident drivers than a lot of older more experience drivers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The amendment to the law that deals with learner drivers is named after the Clancy family, who lost two members in a road traffic tragedy almost three years ago involving an unaccompanied learner driver

To be honest I think learner/novice drivers get a bad deal. Most are better more confident drivers than a lot of older more experience drivers. "

Accident stats may disagree with that. Sometimes confidence is misguided and outweighs the experience leading to poor judgement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us "
that is some dumd attitude to have..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

At the moment anyway their saying people found to be driving while over the limit are given a fine and three penalty points. Currently disqualification is only handed out as a penalty for drink drivers found with more than 80mg of alcohol in their blood.

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"The amendment to the law that deals with learner drivers is named after the Clancy family, who lost two members in a road traffic tragedy almost three years ago involving an unaccompanied learner driver

To be honest I think learner/novice drivers get a bad deal. Most are better more confident drivers than a lot of older more experience drivers.

Accident stats may disagree with that. Sometimes confidence is misguided and outweighs the experience leading to poor judgement."

Maybe I just know some very good learner drivers. Stats also say women are safer drivers I'd dispute that too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of.

Dont agree many old farmers are decent hard working people and they should be allowed to drive home from the pub aftera few pints..do you live in Dublin yourself?"

I have read and reread your posts on this topic and have to say you are either half d*unk or increadibly stupid.

I would love to see your reaction to this topic if, like me, you lived in a rural area and have to daily drive by a particular spot on the road where a 26 year female member of your family was literally splattered all over the road after being hit by the car of a 'working farmer' who deserved a drink. Leaving a young family behind.

Please rethink your opinion. No one should get behind the wheel of any vehicle if they had had even one drink. It is not only their lives they put at risk!

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere


"There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of.

Dont agree many old farmers are decent hard working people and they should be allowed to drive home from the pub aftera few pints..do you live in Dublin yourself?

I have read and reread your posts on this topic and have to say you are either half d*unk or increadibly stupid.

I would love to see your reaction to this topic if, like me, you lived in a rural area and have to daily drive by a particular spot on the road where a 26 year female member of your family was literally splattered all over the road after being hit by the car of a 'working farmer' who deserved a drink. Leaving a young family behind.

Please rethink your opinion. No one should get behind the wheel of any vehicle if they had had even one drink. It is not only their lives they put at risk!"

Sorry to hear this.

XxxX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's still people out walking on narrow rural roads evening/ night time. Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. NO ONE should drink and drive. End of.

Dont agree many old farmers are decent hard working people and they should be allowed to drive home from the pub aftera few pints..do you live in Dublin yourself?

I have read and reread your posts on this topic and have to say you are either half d*unk or increadibly stupid.

I would love to see your reaction to this topic if, like me, you lived in a rural area and have to daily drive by a particular spot on the road where a 26 year female member of your family was literally splattered all over the road after being hit by the car of a 'working farmer' who deserved a drink. Leaving a young family behind.

Please rethink your opinion. No one should get behind the wheel of any vehicle if they had had even one drink. It is not only their lives they put at risk!

Sorry to hear this.

XxxX"

Thank you so much.

Sorry for the rant but I obviously feel very strongly about drink driving xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody is stopping anyone from going to the pub to socialise, it's consuming alcohol that is the issue. Drinking and driving isn't some sort of fundamental human right.

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By *longshottMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"What about a ban if caught on phone what yer thoughts on that ? Or a ban if your caught doing more than 10k over the speed limit ? "

The phone one definitely and do not believe gardai or anyone should be exempt while using mobile phone. Also I heard the law is also tightening up on provisional driver driving unaccompanied which is about time.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown


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In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland "

You can socialise without alcohol and without putting lives at risk, you can’t seriously think that allowing people to drive after drinking is ok even in rural areas.

City folk rules? What about bumpkins not moving with the times?

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

If its properly enforced it will help cut down on country dwellers from rutting and breeding so it can only be a good thing

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well nice too see alot of sensible people on fab, whether their drinkers or non drinkers, once we know our limits, and think of others and safety on the roads, people can still go out and enjoy without drink been involved. I'm not a driver, and I drink on occasion, but I can go out and enjoy without drink too, as I'm sure I'm not alone their, glad I put up this post . And that their was some interest here, enjoy drinking and be careful also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about a ban if caught on phone what yer thoughts on that ? Or a ban if your caught doing more than 10k over the speed limit ? "

I think there's far more people with the phone texting WhatsApp ing etc while driving equally as dangerous as drink driving...im not saying drink driving is right but there is a case for rural people having half or one pint and driving a couple of miles down the road(my opinion) ... Also there's alot more people driving around off their faces on prescription drugs that shouldn't be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers who get behind the wheel after just half a pint will now face an automatic ban under strict new laws.

Controversial new legislation proposed by Transport Minister Shane Ross has finally passed in the Dáil following months of filibustering.

Typical of those far right nut jobs.. imposing laws and regulations is their middle name..soon you wont be able to do anything..next step off nazism..I see nothing wrong with having a few pints and driving home afterwards in rural ireland..people have being doing it for years not a bother on them..it only take a few eejits to ruin it for the rest of us

Far right nut jobs? Ireland is quite literally running itself into the ground Because few folks like yourself who share your attitude and opinion sure ‘will be grand’. If you were to loose a family member on the road who was not drinking but just in their car but hit by some one after 2/3 pints? Would you see the harm in it then? The eejits ruining it for people are those who don’t see the problem in the first place or who are unwilling to actually deal with it, that attitude twords drink in Ireland is shocking and has destroyed thousands of lives but fuck it ‘be grand’

In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland "
Michael Healy Rae is looking for the idoit vote..seems to be working for him ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland

You can socialise without alcohol and without putting lives at risk, you can’t seriously think that allowing people to drive after drinking is ok even in rural areas.

City folk rules? What about bumpkins not moving with the times?"
Ah yeah the city flok can keep driving and out of there minds on drugs.Is that called moving with the times as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bookmarked forthe progressive intellectual review later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The amendment to the law that deals with learner drivers is named after the Clancy family, who lost two members in a road traffic tragedy almost three years ago involving an unaccompanied learner driver

To be honest I think learner/novice drivers get a bad deal. Most are better more confident drivers than a lot of older more experience drivers.

Accident stats may disagree with that. Sometimes confidence is misguided and outweighs the experience leading to poor judgement.

Maybe I just know some very good learner drivers. Stats also say women are safer drivers I'd dispute that too.

"

Some are as our say better than older ones. Three obvious contributing factors according to research to the lower risk are that females drive on average drive 1/3 the weekly distance of male counterparts. This is rested to the second factor that males tend do more spontaneous trips and third factor is males tend to drive with more bravado approach with peers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn’t it be a good idea if car manufacturers could install something in cars that would block out the signal for mobile phones unless the car is stationary. If cars had this insurance companies should recognize it and lower the insurance a wee bit as a bonus.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"Wouldn’t it be a good idea if car manufacturers could install something in cars that would block out the signal for mobile phones unless the car is stationary. If cars had this insurance companies should recognize it and lower the insurance a wee bit as a bonus. "

Are you from the country?

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By *xplicitMan
over a year ago

donegal

Drink driving a small part if the problem..phone use and drug abuse also contribute heavily to carnage on the roads

.i wonder how many fabbers will be as happy for zero tolerance limit when they have to get home after a fab social the night before..the zero limit will affect everyone more the next morning..(now afternoon with these limits)..than the night before

..the habitual offenders will not be affected by these new laws unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wouldn’t it be a good idea if car manufacturers could install something in cars that would block out the signal for mobile phones unless the car is stationary. If cars had this insurance companies should recognize it and lower the insurance a wee bit as a bonus. "

So passengers couldn't use the phone? Not sure how this would reduce insurance... much of the premiums are loaded due to pay out losses that companies absorb. Ever noticed how premiums on everything have a sharp rise after a massive destructive storm?

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

They say that the changes to the laws are research driven I just wonder will research be done in two years to see if these changes made an impact and if so was that impact positive enough to counteract the drawbacks of the implementation of such changes.

Looking back to when I started driving yes way back when u could fill ur quota and drive away,even then we had about 350 road deaths per annum that was 36 years ago when we had bad roads well worse than they are now and cars with a hell of a lot less safety features.

Hal yes us country bumpkins are fed up of city cats laying down laws without consideration for the impact on our lives

Instead of just saying u can't why not say we can improve things by teaching out kids to drive through secondary school so they have decent tutorials before going on the road. Restrict learners to lower limits than experienced drivers, cut their insurance till they feck up then hammer them for their faults the ins companies are riding them bareback.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown


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In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland

You can socialise without alcohol and without putting lives at risk, you can’t seriously think that allowing people to drive after drinking is ok even in rural areas.

City folk rules? What about bumpkins not moving with the times? Ah yeah the city flok can keep driving and out of there minds on drugs.Is that called moving with the times as well."

If only driving on drugs was illegal too! Oh, wait a second...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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In rural areas drink driving should be allowed..for many older men the pub and a few pints in the evening is their only social outlet..you take that away from them you might as well kill them..people have being doing it for years..allowing someone to have half a pint is retarded..its better just to ban it outright instead of half a pint..who drinks half a pint only a child..im in favour of banning drink driving in urban areas like towns and cities where public transport is available..a common sense approach should be taken rather than a blanket ban..typical city folk imposing rules and regulations on country folk..they have no idea what its like to live in isolation..im behind michael healy rae 100%..its a sad day for rural ireland

You can socialise without alcohol and without putting lives at risk, you can’t seriously think that allowing people to drive after drinking is ok even in rural areas.

City folk rules? What about bumpkins not moving with the times? Ah yeah the city flok can keep driving and out of there minds on drugs.Is that called moving with the times as well.

If only driving on drugs was illegal too! Oh, wait a second..."
But does that stop people from taking them and driving no and it's not only cuntry bumkins doing it.So let the city folk take their laws and stick them where the sun don't shine.

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