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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject.

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By *lippery-when-wet-180Woman
over a year ago

South Dub

I don’t believe in religion

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don’t believe in religion "
That's fair enough.

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast

Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe in relgion all mumbo jumbo to me just treat others way you would like to be treated is way I look at things or least try to lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

"
But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I joined a swing site because it's of interest to me. It's nothing to do with rebelling against any religion, surely that's not what swinging is about!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I joined a swing site because it's of interest to me. It's nothing to do with rebelling against any religion, surely that's not what swinging is about!"
ok but why do so many people use religion as a stick to beat you with.

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point."

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I joined a swing site because it's of interest to me. It's nothing to do with rebelling against any religion, surely that's not what swinging is about! ok but why do so many people use religion as a stick to beat you with."

I can't answer for 'so many people' but I've not come across it! Then again I don't read every thread on the forums.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you."
Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion."

I quoted the bible and put in my own opinion around it. Its good to have a point of reference with your own opinion.

Trolling forums and slagging people off is not going to make you many friends. That would be opinion and fact based.

Wheres your point of reference to being one of the smartest people on this site.. Youre doing a great job of making yourself look ignorant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahaaaaaa let's not bring religion on here

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion."

I would say one of the smartest people on this site would KNOW the difference between KNOW and NO. Clever guy

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

I quoted the bible and put in my own opinion around it. Its good to have a point of reference with your own opinion.

Trolling forums and slagging people off is not going to make you many friends. That would be opinion and fact based.

Wheres your point of reference to being one of the smartest people on this site.. Youre doing a great job of making yourself look ignorant."
Practice what you preach.

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

I quoted the bible and put in my own opinion around it. Its good to have a point of reference with your own opinion.

Trolling forums and slagging people off is not going to make you many friends. That would be opinion and fact based.

Wheres your point of reference to being one of the smartest people on this site.. Youre doing a great job of making yourself look ignorant. Practice what you preach."

Whatever that means

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahaaaaaa let's not bring religion on here "

I tend to agree, religious or political threads never end well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

I would say one of the smartest people on this site would KNOW the difference between KNOW and NO. Clever guy "
Spelling was never my strong point but never stopped me before so hardly going to stop me know.Lol

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

I would say one of the smartest people on this site would KNOW the difference between KNOW and NO. Clever guy Spelling was never my strong point but never stopped me before so hardly going to stop me know.Lol"

LOL

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By *otstuffkerry1Couple
over a year ago

tralee


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject."

Was your 'rebellious reaction'since you joined here your one cam session ?

with a nun?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject.

Was your 'rebellious reaction'since you joined here your one cam session ?

with a nun?

"
Oh I have no bad habits.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion.

I would say one of the smartest people on this site would KNOW the difference between KNOW and NO. Clever guy Spelling was never my strong point but never stopped me before so hardly going to stop me know.Lol

LOL"
I know made me pmsl.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject."

I've never heard of anyone getting a stiffy or wet by opposing the church but there you go we discovered another kink.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject.

I've never heard of anyone getting a stiffy or wet by opposing the church but there you go we discovered another kink. "
But lots of stiffs end up in the church.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting thread.

I'm not sure people join a sex site because they are rebellling against religion but if that were their reason then more power to them

Some threads on the forum have nothing to do with sex and bring up myriad aspects of life.

When looking at what others post and why they post it is cery important to understand what are the foundational structures they build their views on.

Are they conditioned by religion in a fundamentakist way where they feel they morally can't stray from their religious guidelines although their actions may not run parallel to their words.

Belief in religion is passed on as faith and faith is not a reliable indicator of truth. No amount of confirmation bias makes a comfortable lie a truth.

Evolutionarily speaking we are a tribal species and religion is one of the social structures used to to control the masses. Lack of belief is punishable by death in a few.

Fundamentalist or literalist religious folks tend to have lower critical thinking skills when it comes to assessing scientific discovery and tend to suffer from the dunning kruger effect quite a lot.

Many religious tend to engage in strawman arguments and arguments from ignorance . They engage in ad hom attacks as do secularists from time ti time to be fair .

They tend not to accept findings which go against their beliefs or their own view on a situation.

It doesn't intrinsically mame them "bad people". Many people find faith is comforting as death to them is a frightening prospect. The trouble is people think we are the center of the universe. That we are the point of "creation" .

Science demonstrates we are living on spherical planet orbiting another much larger spehere made of gas that nurtures life here on earth.

We as humans are in the very early stages of real discovery. For 100,000's of years we have been evolving and now are finally beginning to understand life.

We can now sequence the human genome. Phenomenal leaps in understanding have been made but many choose to believe creationist stories that we "came from" Adam & Eve.

Sometimes assessing how religious is can give a good indicator is it worth the debate or can/will they accept evidence contrary to their views

Spirituality is a different thing.

We are all just a small example of a brief glimpse into the collective consciousness of the universe.

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By *xplicitMan
over a year ago

donegal

Ive never read the bible...kinda waiting on the movie to come out..

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...takin feckin ages tho...

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"When I do good I feel good and when I do bad I feel bad and that's my religion" - Lincoln

...I like to think I've done a little good on Fab myself

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Just a quick observation.

Catholics are not meant to read the bible, the priest does. This happens so you don't misinterpret the bible and think something like the world was created in 7 literal days, which is a valid belief in some christian religions but not catholic.

Catholic church for example had no problem with evolution.

Now here comes the key.

If you are catholic, swinging is a bit like being homosexual. It's a sin. It's lust mainly etc.

But if you swing you can go into church when you are 60 and say "Father, I really honestly regret doing it, and it was short sighted and wrong".

The priest will forgive you. A gay person cant ask forgiveness so easy because they likely a) wont be sorry, and b) wont want to lie about being sorry to save face.

So in summary, catholic religion is probably the most swing friendly christian religion. (if youre straight or can lie to a priest).

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"Just a quick observation.

Catholics are not meant to read the bible, the priest does. This happens so you don't misinterpret the bible and think something like the world was created in 7 literal days, which is a valid belief in some christian religions but not catholic.

Catholic church for example had no problem with evolution.

Now here comes the key.

If you are catholic, swinging is a bit like being homosexual. It's a sin. It's lust mainly etc.

But if you swing you can go into church when you are 60 and say "Father, I really honestly regret doing it, and it was short sighted and wrong".

The priest will forgive you. A gay person cant ask forgiveness so easy because they likely a) wont be sorry, and b) wont want to lie about being sorry to save face.

So in summary, catholic religion is probably the most swing friendly christian religion. (if youre straight or can lie to a priest)."

-----------------------

Love your logic man

True story here...

After I lost my virginity, I felt the pangs of catholic guilt and went for confession. Told the priest that...

"Father, I had sex outside marriage but she was a lovely girl and it seemed right at the time"

Anyway Father Dougal was having none of it, advised me to "channel your energies into sports young man" and then gave me 10 Hail Mary's...

10 HAIL MARYS, I SH1T YOU NOT!

Anyway, decided that when I hang up my jockstrap and move on from FAB, best thing is to show him my Fab Veri list. He has to forgive me right??!

Also to any of my future Fab dates out there please, please, please could you state or imply that Tim "had a presence... seemed like a Saintly fella... who was doing God's work" in your veris?

Thank you & God Bless

Tim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion. The most destructive invention mankind has ever made.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I.am a swinger not a saint

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By *ipswingCouple
over a year ago

portrush

i dont believe in beliefs ..

either we know , or we do not ...

figuring out the truth ,

sure thats much of the craque

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doubt if peeps join fab cos of religion more about wanting to meet likeminded open-minded up.for fun peeps. Religion only comes into fab on forum posts about topical current affairs. I for one am not on fab to debate issues just to have fun, explore and have positive experiences. I hear enuf politics and debates off fab to care about what other fabbers opinions are on religion/politics. Lilred x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I get the feeling most of the posters on this thread are in denial.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

God, save us from religion

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By *eisurepleasureMan
over a year ago

belfast

God created everything so that includes Fab

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick

I'm cool with it

Loving thy neighbour like the good book commands

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"Just a quick observation.

Catholics are not meant to read the bible, the priest does. This happens so you don't misinterpret the bible and think something like the world was created in 7 literal days, which is a valid belief in some christian religions but not catholic.

Catholic church for example had no problem with evolution.

Now here comes the key.

If you are catholic, swinging is a bit like being homosexual. It's a sin. It's lust mainly etc.

But if you swing you can go into church when you are 60 and say "Father, I really honestly regret doing it, and it was short sighted and wrong".

The priest will forgive you. A gay person cant ask forgiveness so easy because they likely a) wont be sorry, and b) wont want to lie about being sorry to save face.

So in summary, catholic religion is probably the most swing friendly christian religion. (if youre straight or can lie to a priest)."

I'll forgive everyone

As theologian Thomas Aquinius said

It's better to live in excommunication than violate your conscience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm cool with it

Loving thy neighbour like the good book commands "

What about Lot giving up his 2 daughters to be forced to have sex against their will ? (Good book me arse)

Just aswell it's fiction !

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman
over a year ago

middle of nowhere

I'm not religious more spiritual. Most people have had their religion forced upon them. As in if you're born into a Catholic family you automatically become one. I was and so was my ex ,we brought our children up as same until they were old enough to make up their own minds. They are all now atheists. As it being used as a stick ,well there's lots of things used as a stick. Such as creed, colour,size,fetishes, preferences, the list is endless.

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By *aucyladMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Each to their own. If you believe then fine,if you dont then thats fine too.What probably annoys me most is one trying to convince the other that there choice is the right one.As many have said religion can provide a moral compass but has its flaws also.Religion hasnt moved much with the times,the story remains the same but many of the guideance interpreted in it can be useful. It shouldn't take a book to tell us the difference between right and wrong,that should come from within us.Many people would be lost without religion,they use it to survive and cling to.Many people would be alive without religion also,it has destroyed many lives.There will never be a definite answer on religion,each to their own.

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"I'm cool with it

Loving thy neighbour like the good book commands

What about Lot giving up his 2 daughters to be forced to have sex against their will ? (Good book me arse)

Yeah that was a bit shitty alright

Some one clearly fucked up there

Communication must have been lost in translation

Just aswell it's fiction !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

"

If you believe the bible it is the word of your god then you cant cherry pick the bits you like and the bits you dont, because your god is omnipotent and omniscient..

Either it is correct or it isnt, if you can ingnore certian parts bacause they seem silly to you then it can all be ignored.. but then The bible is a collection of iron age fairy tales written by goat herders.. if you want to base your life on this then thats a special kind of crazy..

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over a year ago


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

But you just did exactly as I said. Brought religion into it to prove a point.

Umm how have I brought religion into it to prove a point on a post you started called religion? :/ dont try to be smart, it doesn't suit you. Why quote the Bible have you know opinion of you're own.I actually think I'm one of the smartest people on site that's my own opinion."

In my experience, anyone who needs to tell people that they're really smart, really arent..

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

If you believe the bible it is the word of your god then you cant cherry pick the bits you like and the bits you dont, because your god is omnipotent and omniscient..

Either it is correct or it isnt, if you can ingnore certian parts bacause they seem silly to you then it can all be ignored.. but then The bible is a collection of iron age fairy tales written by goat herders.. if you want to base your life on this then thats a special kind of crazy..

"

Sure the bible was written by man

Don't remember gods name on it

Was written by and for the society at the time.. the religious elders added and vetoed what made it in to the bible

Bibles have been mistranslated from Aramaic Greek Latin then English

Was bound to be a fuck up Some Where

The bible has as much use today as chocolate tea pot

Which is why the good fr doesn't use it at his sermons

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By *inkycouplehereCouple
over a year ago

belfast


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

If you believe the bible it is the word of your god then you cant cherry pick the bits you like and the bits you dont, because your god is omnipotent and omniscient..

Either it is correct or it isnt, if you can ingnore certian parts bacause they seem silly to you then it can all be ignored.. but then The bible is a collection of iron age fairy tales written by goat herders.. if you want to base your life on this then thats a special kind of crazy..

"

Don't actually remember saying I base my life on the bible or that it is the word of god, most are books by different men who say god has spoken to them.

Religion in this day and age is what you make of it. Nothing wrong or crazy with being spiritual. Its what makes a person who they are.

No one needs to be put down for having faith or not, this is just a topic of conversation. No preaching from this side, no special kind of crazy here.

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

If you believe the bible it is the word of your god then you cant cherry pick the bits you like and the bits you dont, because your god is omnipotent and omniscient..

Either it is correct or it isnt, if you can ingnore certian parts bacause they seem silly to you then it can all be ignored.. but then The bible is a collection of iron age fairy tales written by goat herders.. if you want to base your life on this then thats a special kind of crazy..

Don't actually remember saying I base my life on the bible or that it is the word of god, most are books by different men who say god has spoken to them.

Religion in this day and age is what you make of it. Nothing wrong or crazy with being spiritual. Its what makes a person who they are.

No one needs to be put down for having faith or not, this is just a topic of conversation. No preaching from this side, no special kind of crazy here. "

Taking off the collar here

No one's personal beliefs should be victimised . Be the Catholic prodestant Buddhist Islamic agnostic or atheist

It's when those views get used to discriminate against those that don't follow their beliefs tenants is where we have a problem

We have seen abuse by the church on people of Ireland and rightly we question it. We have seen social and sexual abuses that we can no longer turn a blind eye too

However the organisation that committed these offences were not religion. They were committed my men d*unk on their own power and position

Religion doesn't tend to harm people

It's followers do

Priest collar back on

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By *ealOne74Man
over a year ago

limerick

Religious people in 21 st century.... Sorry but I just can't take them seriously...

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over a year ago

If God hates gays, why are they so cute.... Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Respect everyones beliefs : respect female genital mutilation ? Respect child marriage and all that goes with it ? Respect death for apostacy ?

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"Respect everyones beliefs : respect female genital mutilation ? Respect child marriage and all that goes with it ? Respect death for apostacy ? "

Respect their beliefs that don't infringe on anyone else

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over a year ago

As George Carlin once said..

"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!"

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over a year ago


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject."
I am Buddhist

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"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject. I am Buddhist"

To be fair a lot of people use Buddhism as a way of life as opposed to worship in the way other religions do.

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"As George Carlin once said..

"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!"

"

Ah but sure

God works in mysterious ways

Plus pretty sure George Carlin died.... God got him in the end for tempting him to strike him down

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over a year ago


"As George Carlin once said..

"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!"

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I pray to God that you stop writing all those lllllloooooonnnnnnggggggg post's.

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I pray to God that you stop writing all those lllllloooooonnnnnnggggggg post's."

Ever read a book ?

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I pray to God that you stop writing all those lllllloooooonnnnnnggggggg post's.

Ever read a book ? "
Only one's with pictures in them.

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By *andsomeman100Man
over a year ago

Ah sure now...


"Im religious with certain things, the bible was a moral guideline and not definitive law in my opinion. I dont think any creator had in mind for us to be drones to a book.

For instance the bible says Leviticus 19:19 says, “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop wearing poly/cotton socks!

Plus the bible also instructs husbands and wives, “Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time (1 Corinthians 7:5a). This verse perhaps lays down the principle for sexual relations in marriage. Whatever is done, it should be mutually agreed upon. No one should be encouraged or coerced to do something he or she is uncomfortable with or thinks is wrong. If a husband and wife both agree that they want to try something (e.g., oral sex, different positions, sex toys, etc.), then the Bible does not give any reason why they cannot.

If you believe the bible it is the word of your god then you cant cherry pick the bits you like and the bits you dont, because your god is omnipotent and omniscient..

Either it is correct or it isnt, if you can ingnore certian parts bacause they seem silly to you then it can all be ignored.. but then The bible is a collection of iron age fairy tales written by goat herders.. if you want to base your life on this then thats a special kind of crazy..

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The above logic also makes a mockery of the bible being the source of our morals. In order to cherry pick (I won't steal, but I also won't stone a woman for adultery) from the bible (which the religious do), then we must have a pre-existing morality that does not come from the bible.

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I pray to God that you stop writing all those lllllloooooonnnnnnggggggg post's.

Ever read a book ? Only one's with pictures in them. "

You'll get there. One day you might just get a gold star too ! X

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I pray to God that you stop writing all those lllllloooooonnnnnnggggggg post's.

Ever read a book ? Only one's with pictures in them.

You'll get there. One day you might just get a gold star too ! X"
Just when you think it can't get any better you come along and tell me I might get a gold star.

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By *ack 188Man
over a year ago

Dublin 15


"I'm just wondering do a lot of people join sex sites and the like just because it's against the church's beliefs as a kind of s rebellious reaction.Reason I'm asking is because I see the church and religion brought into most argument on forums as a stick to beat you with. what's your opinion on subject."

I not sure this is the platform to discuss a person's religious beliefs,it just opens the door to self righteous no all's who love to preach their views with what it seems endless monologues of how great they are.This is a sex site for God's sakes

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Bishop: So father, do you ever have any doubts about the religious life yourself?

Dougal: Well you know the way God made us all, and he's looking down at us from heaven and everything? And then his son came down and saved everyone and all that? And when we die, we're all going to go to heaven?

Bishop: Yes. What about it?

Dougal: Well that's the bit I have trouble with.....(walks off)

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By *ack 188Man
over a year ago

Dublin 15

Daddy daddy Father Ted just died,will he go to heaven? of course son,he's not a real priest

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