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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So you see loads them on boardwalk and have say I do hate seen them there embarrassing especially when we have tourists going around in the good weather anyone else feel embarrassed by them like real version of the walking dead on that boardwalk sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Natural selection, be patient.

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

I find the levels of d*unkenness, and the acceptance of it, far more embarrassing. There is a heroin problem in this country, and I'm not denying it, but there is a much bigger alcohol problem that has to be addressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find the levels of d*unkenness, and the acceptance of it, far more embarrassing. There is a heroin problem in this country, and I'm not denying it, but there is a much bigger alcohol problem that has to be addressed."

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Well said!

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

when you say a "much bigger alcohol problem" what do you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So you see loads them on boardwalk and have say I do hate seen them there embarrassing especially when we have tourists going around in the good weather anyone else feel embarrassed by them like real version of the walking dead on that boardwalk sometimes

Sadly all countries have them.

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By *lay2018Couple
over a year ago

westmeath & roscommon.

Every major city has these problems. Some people just don't know how to get themselves out of a bad situation. Some do buy many don't.

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By *ohnandGemCouple
over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin

"when you say a "much bigger alcohol problem" what do you mean?"

Probably our attitude to alcohol that's been ingrained in our culture.

We've a bit of growing up to do.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Twice as many ppl die from drinking than drugs in Ireland every year and alcohol causes way more problems in society

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

It's why we need injection/injecting centres in the bigger cities.

We have pubs for alcoholics. It keeps most of them out of sight. Injection centres would be of the same principle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All has to be addressed but none will go away unfortunately and am sure those tourists see it in their own country also . It is everywhere .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"when you say a "much bigger alcohol problem" what do you mean?

Probably our attitude to alcohol that's been ingrained in our culture.

We've a bit of growing up to do."

Very much so. And specifically with young people and binge drinking. I know most of us did it ourselves when we were young but that’s no excuse for allowing our kids to develop the same bad habits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I grew up with a few people having a drink problems in my family so was never really a drinker. Never liked it and hated it one time. Ireland is a depressing place to be between 16-24 if you're not into drinking. Every weekend, occasion etc....was used for drinking so I'd never have things to do at night at that time. You could never convince people to do other activities and going out sober was not fun. Ireland is changing though. My own friends don't even like going out anymore haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

Of course they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

But they cause fights, assault people, fall over, damage property and put pressure on our health system but I do see heroin, , xanax etc...as bigger problems. D*unks we can deal with most of the time but there was a few old people and I mean close to 80 if not older robbed in limerick the last year and that's definitely drugs not drink. Drug users take things a step further and act more desperate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Problem is the health system isn't catering for ppl who are addicted. Only yest one of my friends her son is hooked on valium so he has tried getting help no one can . So he tried to overdose yest to seek help as he thought. But was released frm hospital last ngt and told he has to do it himself. So there's no where they can go for the help . Yes there's a few places but all private if u had money to pay for it.

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By *un4tooCouple
over a year ago

north cork

"It's why we need injection/injecting centres in the bigger cities.

We have pubs for alcoholics. It keeps most of them out of sight. Injection centres would be of the same principle "

Ps. Ive seen these work in Australia. Proven to work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've noticed it's not a recent thing though. It's been there a long time but I think with a more 'progressively accepting culture' it allows what is normally hidden or underground activities to be displayed more openly in public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho

Alcohol abuse causes untold psychological damage in families, as well as contributing to physical and mental health problems for the person themselves and poverty in dependents. It is a significant factor in domestic violence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

No, they punch and kick the living daylights out of people, causing life changing injuries or death. How many times have we read about ‘one punch’ victims hitting their head off the pavements and dying thanks to some gargled up dickhead who wants to show how manly he is. What about the selfish assholes who drink and drive?

Drinkers also clog up our emergency rooms just because they drink to ridiculous levels on nights out. People need to cop the fuck on and know what their limits are. I enjoy alcohol as much as anyone but I don’t abuse it.

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By *rgonzo8426Man
over a year ago

Close to Letterkenny

In Ireland in 2012, 88 people on average died a month from alcohol and alcohol related illnesses. Our two biggest killers are tobacco and alcohol. All illegal drugs combined still don't come anywhere close to the damage these two legal drugs have done, not to mention the drain on our health service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Ireland in 2012, 88 people on average died a month from alcohol and alcohol related illnesses. Our two biggest killers are tobacco and alcohol. All illegal drugs combined still don't come anywhere close to the damage these two legal drugs have done, not to mention the drain on our health service."

It's not the deaths that are the real damage to society. Alcohol abuse and rekated activities that possible are the most damaging addictions to the family and society that there is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I havnt seen any in other countries I've been in tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I havnt seen any in other countries I've been in tbh "

We see other places through different eyes, whether through tourist eyes which is often the case with travel. If in a place for more than a month we start to see more how the locals see and our views change as well. This can be akso by moving off the tourist beat and seeing from a different perspective, but drug/alcohol abuse is pandemic. The drug trade is the 3rd largest global criminal trade behind arms and slavery now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I havnt seen any in other countries I've been in tbh

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the only problem I've had away is in Amsterdam and that was guy trying to sell us drugs kept following us till told him to fuck off which prob wasn't smartest move but he did go away lol

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

Addicts only rob to pay the high price of their drugs

Decriminalise drugs and give hard drugs out on prescription then that all stops,with one stroke of a pen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't embarrass me as the problem is worldwide and all these tourists have seen it in their own countries. Someone said they don't see it on holidays.. Could be because you are staying in holiday resorts and not as much with the local communities but its still there. Alcohol is certainly a bigger issue and because its legal its ignored. I'm fond of a drink the same as the next person but our country as a whole needs to change their attitudes to alcohol and its abuse. Its instilled in most of us from a very young age that our drinking culture is normal but there is nothing normal about the effects it has on the individual, their families, wider communities with drink driving, fights etc. Through my job... to learn that it is easier to wean someone off heroin than it is alcohol is very very frightening and there needs to be a massive change.Unfortunately with the money these massive companies are making through our excessive drinking the drug task teams are fighting a loosing battle with making people more aware of alcohol and the issues that come with it

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Listen this is liberal Ireland. Far from tackling the problem in any sort of logical way, they will campaign to have legalised.

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going."

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

You mean blind boy isn't the voice of a generation

How's you Lim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

You mean blind boy isn't the voice of a generation

How's you Lim"

I'm ashamed to say we're alumni of the same secondary

I don't mind Mr Chrome but BBBC has gone too far left.

I'm great lad loving life these days

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

You mean blind boy isn't the voice of a generation

How's you Lim

I'm ashamed to say we're alumni of the same secondary

I don't mind Mr Chrome but BBBC has gone too far left.

I'm great lad loving life these days

Good stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

No they normally start a row

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

You mean blind boy isn't the voice of a generation

How's you Lim

I'm ashamed to say we're alumni of the same secondary

I don't mind Mr Chrome but BBBC has gone too far left.

I'm great lad loving life these days

What's BBBC?

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

You mean blind boy isn't the voice of a generation

How's you Lim

I'm ashamed to say we're alumni of the same secondary

I don't mind Mr Chrome but BBBC has gone too far left.

I'm great lad loving life these days

What's BBBC?

Blind boy boat club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

D*unken idiots are equally as bad in my humble opinion from experience of wexford town on an average Sat night , fights galore and public property and shop fronts damaged all the time but sure its grand the lads had a bit too much to drink.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

how is "leftistism" bullshit ?? i take it you are a rightist ?

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By *r Connie LingusMan
over a year ago

Limerick

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

how is "leftistism" bullshit ?? i take it you are a rightist ? "

Leave him alone

He's young

He doesn't know what he wants to be when he grows up yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

Lots think he gives Limerick a great name, but we might deal with that in a separate thread!

Personal autonomy is a cornerstone of right wing thought so legalizing drugs and letting adults make their own choices would fit in with that... But it doesn't always fit in with conservative morality. Do ye think drugs should be illegal? If so, why? And if yes, and you think the current system isn't working, what would you change?

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

I have a lot of compassion for people struggling with addiction. But there are countless addicts that don't want to give up their vice. I'm all for doing everything possible to help addicts that genuinely want to get clean. Those that don't want to get clean via therapy, counselling etc etc and are a drain on society should be rounded up and forced to get clean via cold turkey and if a few of them don't make it then maybe that will encourage others to actively engage in rehabilitation.

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

"when you say a "much bigger alcohol problem" what do you mean?"

I mean that alcohol is a much better problem in this country than heroin is.

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho "

You don't know anyone who ever robbed money for drink? You must lead a very sheltered life.

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

"D*unk people don't go around robbing people for fix tho

I had the misfortune to be in an A&E ward with a young child last weekend. It was not the most pleasant place to be, especially with a worried, tired child, but after about 10pm, when the d*unks stated to pile in, it became positively frightening for her. People were behaving in a disgusting, vile manner because of how intoxicated they were, abusing staff members, falling around the place, one idea attempted to light a cigarette in there! Oddly enough I didn't see any junkies in there...

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

how is "leftistism" bullshit ?? i take it you are a rightist ? "

Agreed, why is it deemed to be "bullshit" if it's liberal and left leaning? Does that mean that it's not "bullshit" if it is conservative and right wing?

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By *arryWhiteXxxMan
over a year ago

Midleton

"I have a lot of compassion for people struggling with addiction. But there are countless addicts that don't want to give up their vice. I'm all for doing everything possible to help addicts that genuinely want to get clean. Those that don't want to get clean via therapy, counselling etc etc and are a drain on society should be rounded up and forced to get clean via cold turkey and if a few of them don't make it then maybe that will encourage others to actively engage in rehabilitation. "

Are you talking about d*unks or junkies? Your argument applies to both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just listen to blind boy boat club or some other drug abusing liberal to find out where the country is going.

Can we please not mention blind boy and his leftist bullshit....

Man gives Limerick a bad name

how is "leftistism" bullshit ?? i take it you are a rightist ? "

His particular interpretation of socialism is bullshit

My personal political ideology is centre libertarian, varying slightly left or right from time to time

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Are you talking about d*unks or junkies? Your argument applies to both."

Exactly that's why I said addicts not junkies or d*unks

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By *ollingStonesCouple
over a year ago

Newry

Addiction is the problem. Or is it the human species that is the real issue.

Perhaps some races of people have more problems with this than others. Depending on the vices available in their society.

Food addiction

Gambling addiction

Alcohol addiction

Drug addiction

Shopping addiction

Porn addiction.

Many others

Most often the behaviours that are visible when under the influence of some of these addictions are the reason the addiction has developed. Reasons like low self esteem or abuse that has occurred or simply being a victim of your circumstances.

It's not the drugs fault or the bar man's fault or bookies fault.

It's time for a better understanding resourcing of mental health.

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