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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

After just reading a women in Kildare got attacked by group of men and assaulted by one every day seems be story of attacks on women as ridiculous as it is I think most women if not all should do some sort of self defence classes if not then swift kick in the balls usually works

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By *lippery-when-wet-180Woman
over a year ago

South Dub

Kick in the balls and then the Adam’s apple and head butt the bridge of their nose if you can reach

But yes I agree my daughter is not allowed walk anywhere alone anymore

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By *sexybitchWoman
over a year ago

north dublin

I'm more scared a women then man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even scarier a women driving lately was followed by two fellas in a car.thankfully she was ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We need compulsory sentences for sexual assaults and harsher sentences too. Don't let it up to a judge. If found guilty then there should be an automatic sentences in place. They should be forced to sit a rehabilitation programme and not be eligible for early release and then should have to sign on weekly or bi weekly for the rest of their lives at Garda Stations. There needs to be real punishments. And ya even during the day light hours assaults are taking place now. Its gone mad.

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By *lippery-when-wet-180Woman
over a year ago

South Dub

It’s gone mental lately every week there’s something else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Even scarier a women driving lately was followed by two fellas in a car.thankfully she was ok."

Similar happened to a woman in Clane the night before the attack, a few guys stood at a van tried to jump the woman's car when she slowed to take a bad turn. It's certainly rattled people!

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By *ofistimacatedMan
over a year ago

cavan town

It doesnt suit the system to have these criminals in prison. The vast majority of assault cases are reoffenders. It makes sense to regular folk like us that they should be locked up for good but they keep the system going by being released.

Released, offend, arrested, court date, adjourned, rescheduled, given suspended sentence, released, reoffend......... well you get the picture. There are fkers out there with 5,10,15+ suspended sentences. How does that make sense? Apparently it does to the most educated people in the country

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I sod self defence. Unfortunately Self defence courses/skills only work when you keep them up and train them regularly. Best self defence is to run as fast as you can respectively avoid any dangerous situations.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

*did instead of sod

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

To think that poor Asian lady that was abducted a while back break your heart looking her heartbroken family in papers and why would anybody be afraid to break law with are joke of law system they need start implementing harsher sentences and back to basics conditions in the prisons as was fuming when read they were getting new gym equipment and sky sports packages it's like holiday camp in there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Kick in the balls and then the Adam’s apple and head butt the bridge of their nose if you can reach

But yes I agree my daughter is not allowed walk anywhere alone anymore "
my advice any women who's been attacked if you can kick them as hard as you can in the balls then run believe me kick in the balls is very painful lol

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"After just reading a women in Kildare got attacked by group of men and assaulted by one every day seems be story of attacks on women as ridiculous as it is I think most women if not all should do some sort of self defence classes if not then swift kick in the balls usually works "

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Highly recommend any man or woman here living in terror of being mugged to go do a weekend course in Krav Maga

I attended one a few years ago & the drills train your nervous system so you don't just "freeze" on the spot if ever confronted. Course has helped me out on a few occasions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's the thing, I think I would freeze out of sheer panic if I were attacked

You just don't know how you would react in that sort of situation

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"That's the thing, I think I would freeze out of sheer panic if I were attacked

You just don't know how you would react in that sort of situation"

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I agree. Most people think self defence is just about throwing a few fancy punches or kicks... when 90% of any confrontation is actually about handling a "freeze, flight or fight" response in front of some scumbag

That's why running real life drills is vitally important when doing self defence... yes, a tiny bit scary when doing them but will give you a fighting chance in the real world

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Nearly all women wouldn't have a hope against a guy with bad intent

Self defence classes would prob play against the woman as while she is trying to rem what she was taught she could be running out of there

Mma has taught us that real life situations are chaotic,quick and violent,all those self defence moves they teach you against willing partners are useless

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"Nearly all women wouldn't have a hope against a guy with bad intent

Self defence classes would prob play against the woman as while she is trying to rem what she was taught she could be running out of there

Mma has taught us that real life situations are chaotic,quick and violent,all those self defence moves they teach you against willing partners are useless"

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"Nearly all women wouldn't have a hope against a guy with bad intent"

I take it you've never dated a red head then??

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"After just reading a women in Kildare got attacked by group of men and assaulted by one every day seems be story of attacks on women as ridiculous as it is I think most women if not all should do some sort of self defence classes if not then swift kick in the balls usually works

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Highly recommend any man or woman here living in terror of being mugged to go do a weekend course in Krav Maga

I attended one a few years ago & the drills train your nervous system so you don't just "freeze" on the spot if ever confronted. Course has helped me out on a few occasions "

Doing a weekend course would not train your nervous system it takes a long time to get muscle memory.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

No one cares about women being attacked.

3 or 4 women were murdered in the past few years for wanting to have a baby and the man who wanted to get them pregnant wanting them to have an abortion.

Countless other women have been beaten and gone to have the abortion instead of being murdered.

Not one protection for women was announced for women in the abortion referendum. The goverment does not give a single flying shit.

Take self defence clasees, or running classes, cause no one else is gonna help you tbh.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"After just reading a women in Kildare got attacked by group of men and assaulted by one every day seems be story of attacks on women as ridiculous as it is I think most women if not all should do some sort of self defence classes if not then swift kick in the balls usually works

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Highly recommend any man or woman here living in terror of being mugged to go do a weekend course in Krav Maga

I attended one a few years ago & the drills train your nervous system so you don't just "freeze" on the spot if ever confronted. Course has helped me out on a few occasions

Doing a weekend course would not train your nervous system it takes a long time to get muscle memory.

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Someone's nervous system can be conditioned in a split second. Have you ever heard of a phobia??? It's a one time learning where the nervous system associates an external stimuli to a response.. So, the nervous system can in fact be trained over the course of a weekend, day, hour ...or minute for that matter

Muscle memory is a different concept. You can spend years perfecting a punch, kick or golf swing but whether you'll "choke" or not in a real world situation boils down to... you guessed it... how well a person's NEUROLOGY has been conditioned. Behaviour is state dependent & not about simply learning a bunch of techniques in the hope that you can remember them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can"

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Countless other women have been beaten and gone to have the abortion instead of being murdered.

Not one protection for women was announced for women in the abortion referendum. The goverment does not give a single flying shit.

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Go on.... entertain us all with what what such "protections" would look like if you were in charge.

Armed guards in every household just in case?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise."

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids"

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo

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By *obshortMan
over a year ago

Cork

After 35 plus years in martial arts.25 plus years in door work. After giving 100s of self defence courses to all ages n sexs and security staff. Forget one off weekend or 10 section courses. Find a style of martial art which includes grappling standing and ground. Join up and stay for at least 5 years. Now you have a very good chance of stoping 90%. Of the scum your likely to meet. NO SHORT CUTS NO MAGIC MOVES.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo"

What are you saying? All wemon should remain helpless individuals? If you read what I said if it saves one life in a million it's worth it..not all attackers are 6 foot 6 male monsters there are lots of cases where wemon fought off the attackers who had a certain type of maintained self defence and its pur ignorance to think any other wise, out of curiosity would you fancy your chances with Katie Taylor in or outside the ring?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said a

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By *hebossman1Man
over a year ago

dublin


"I'm more scared a women then man "
me tooo lol they can be dangerous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Even scarier a women driving lately was followed by two fellas in a car.thankfully she was ok.

Similar happened to a woman in Clane the night before the attack, a few guys stood at a van tried to jump the woman's car when she slowed to take a bad turn. It's certainly rattled people! "

Jesus!! I hadnt heard that, very scary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nearly all women wouldn't have a hope against a guy with bad intent

Self defence classes would prob play against the woman as while she is trying to rem what she was taught she could be running out of there

Mma has taught us that real life situations are chaotic,quick and violent,all those self defence moves they teach you against willing partners are useless"

mma has taught us nothing only given us an official path to normalising extreme violence and call it a sport and funnily enough most of these mma fighters are martial art Black belts in some form or another... I it benefited them

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I remember a case years back in my country of a woman being attacked by 3 lads, two were holding her the third tried to r@pe her. What they didn't know that she was national karate champion at the time. The third fella learned it the hard way with one well placed kick. In the following confusion she was able to make a runner, the only right thing to do even as a karate champion. The aim of self defence is get away from it as fast as you can and not to fight. First thing you learn in self defence.

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo

What are you saying? All wemon should remain helpless individuals? If you read what I said if it saves one life in a million it's worth it..not all attackers are 6 foot 6 male monsters there are lots of cases where wemon fought off the attackers who had a certain type of maintained self defence and its pur ignorance to think any other wise, out of curiosity would you fancy your chances with Katie Taylor in or outside the ring? "

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It's unfortunate that some people seem to believe that a woman needs to be a 5th Dan in jiu jutsu or kung fu before she can even contemplate fighting back against a male mugger...

1. Strength doesn't mean anything. A potential mugger or rapist is there to harm you not bench press you So, a swift kick in the balls is going to hurt any man whether you're Woody Allen or Arnold Schwarzenegger

2. Anyone can drive a palm hard into a wall without breaking a hand, so a 90 pound woman can easily hurt or break the nose of a 200 pound neanderthal troglodyte. (and no, you can't drive a person's nose into their skull causing brain damage )

3. A woman can combine options 2 and 3.

4. Digging nails into a man's thighs like a "donkey bite"

5. An elbow in the face is going to hurt any mugger of any size or strength

Option 1,2,3,4 or 5 and then get the fook out of there...

These are all simple strategies that can be learned (through drills) by any woman (or man) over the course of a weekend or few weeks without having to go study karate on a mountain top in Japan for the next 5 years

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By *otstuffkerry1Couple
over a year ago

tralee

i have trained a lot and since i turned 25 a lot more specifically in martial arts and this topic was asked of a lot of trainers .

if you have trained or not the best advice i ever heard was run ,if caught do a number 2 .it should put off the most committed attacker ,and buy you a second or two to RUN.

ps. i was always taught that a kick in the balls is a very very risky move as a mans natural reaction after getting one is to clamp his legs shut ... high risk of trapping your foot .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo

What are you saying? All wemon should remain helpless individuals? If you read what I said if it saves one life in a million it's worth it..not all attackers are 6 foot 6 male monsters there are lots of cases where wemon fought off the attackers who had a certain type of maintained self defence and its pur ignorance to think any other wise, out of curiosity would you fancy your chances with Katie Taylor in or outside the ring?

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It's unfortunate that some people seem to believe that a woman needs to be a 5th Dan in jiu jutsu or kung fu before she can even contemplate fighting back against a male mugger...

1. Strength doesn't mean anything. A potential mugger or rapist is there to harm you not bench press you So, a swift kick in the balls is going to hurt any man whether you're Woody Allen or Arnold Schwarzenegger

2. Anyone can drive a palm hard into a wall without breaking a hand, so a 90 pound woman can easily hurt or break the nose of a 200 pound neanderthal troglodyte. (and no, you can't drive a person's nose into their skull causing brain damage )

3. A woman can combine options 2 and 3.

4. Digging nails into a man's thighs like a "donkey bite"

5. An elbow in the face is going to hurt any mugger of any size or strength

Option 1,2,3,4 or 5 and then get the fook out of there...

These are all simple strategies that can be learned (through drills) by any woman (or man) over the course of a weekend or few weeks without having to go study karate on a mountain top in Japan for the next 5 years

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WTF? Why is it unfortunate? I'm not looking to make it compulsory that every woman in Ireland has to have a lack belt in whatever, just stating it may help... , you say strength dosnt matter,very strange, oh and no need to go to Japan ladies theres loads of hills in ireland

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo

What are you saying? All wemon should remain helpless individuals? If you read what I said if it saves one life in a million it's worth it..not all attackers are 6 foot 6 male monsters there are lots of cases where wemon fought off the attackers who had a certain type of maintained self defence and its pur ignorance to think any other wise, out of curiosity would you fancy your chances with Katie Taylor in or outside the ring?

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It's unfortunate that some people seem to believe that a woman needs to be a 5th Dan in jiu jutsu or kung fu before she can even contemplate fighting back against a male mugger...

1. Strength doesn't mean anything. A potential mugger or rapist is there to harm you not bench press you So, a swift kick in the balls is going to hurt any man whether you're Woody Allen or Arnold Schwarzenegger

2. Anyone can drive a palm hard into a wall without breaking a hand, so a 90 pound woman can easily hurt or break the nose of a 200 pound neanderthal troglodyte. (and no, you can't drive a person's nose into their skull causing brain damage )

3. A woman can combine options 2 and 3.

4. Digging nails into a man's thighs like a "donkey bite"

5. An elbow in the face is going to hurt any mugger of any size or strength

Option 1,2,3,4 or 5 and then get the fook out of there...

These are all simple strategies that can be learned (through drills) by any woman (or man) over the course of a weekend or few weeks without having to go study karate on a mountain top in Japan for the next 5 years

WTF? Why is it unfortunate? I'm not looking to make it compulsory that every woman in Ireland has to have a lack belt in whatever, just stating it may help... , you say strength dosnt matter,very strange, oh and no need to go to Japan ladies theres loads of hills in ireland "

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I think you mighty have got "who said what" a little mixed up in the thread there... as that original comment is not mine but someone else's

I'm advocating that teens and adults should know the basics of self defence as that might save their life someday without having to think that they have to embark on 5 years of training as a martial art...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think girls should be trained self defence in the secondary schools. I've been trained self defence at high school and still can hurt the idiot who thinks that lady like me will be in panic and he can do whatever he wants to do...

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

The best technique if a woman is being attacked is to so mental screaming biting gouging eyes.

The shock if biting their nose/ear (hopefully ripping it off) should give you enough time to break free and run. Remember fighting fair/clean is only for the ring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are courses out there that teach how to get out of grips and holds send how to safely disable startle someone so you can get away. Teaching self defence only makes people brave and they think they can defend themselves against any attack where they should be thinking of getting out of trouble as quickly as they can

Have to agree with this, realistically most men are far stronger than women, plus a random attacker generally has the advantage of surprise.

True but if even one woman can be helped by self defence courses then it's worth it,somtimes it's enough to sway the balance, yes run is the best option but if your cornered? Our daughter is doing tiquando for years and is quite impressive at attack and defence, I would highly recommend it to any parent with kids

How is she fighting on the ground?

Because that's where she would be seconds into an attack and with no referee to stand them back up like in taekwondo

What are you saying? All wemon should remain helpless individuals? If you read what I said if it saves one life in a million it's worth it..not all attackers are 6 foot 6 male monsters there are lots of cases where wemon fought off the attackers who had a certain type of maintained self defence and its pur ignorance to think any other wise, out of curiosity would you fancy your chances with Katie Taylor in or outside the ring?

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It's unfortunate that some people seem to believe that a woman needs to be a 5th Dan in jiu jutsu or kung fu before she can even contemplate fighting back against a male mugger...

1. Strength doesn't mean anything. A potential mugger or rapist is there to harm you not bench press you So, a swift kick in the balls is going to hurt any man whether you're Woody Allen or Arnold Schwarzenegger

2. Anyone can drive a palm hard into a wall without breaking a hand, so a 90 pound woman can easily hurt or break the nose of a 200 pound neanderthal troglodyte. (and no, you can't drive a person's nose into their skull causing brain damage )

3. A woman can combine options 2 and 3.

4. Digging nails into a man's thighs like a "donkey bite"

5. An elbow in the face is going to hurt any mugger of any size or strength

Option 1,2,3,4 or 5 and then get the fook out of there...

These are all simple strategies that can be learned (through drills) by any woman (or man) over the course of a weekend or few weeks without having to go study karate on a mountain top in Japan for the next 5 years strength with no training against a trained person in a combat sport situation means nothing allright..but entirely different in a violent situation on the street..strenght means a lot then..

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

I have to say, I was very shocked. Listening to the Ciara Kelly show on Newstalk last week. Basically it sounded like every woman, walking alone, is constantly wary, almost expecting to be mugged, or worse. They talked about being constantly talking on your phone, as a warning to others that if anything happens to you, the person on the other end would know and could alert relevant authorities.

Apart from my dismay that society has come to this stage, the overall sense I got from callers, contributors and hosts was running is always the best option.

I'm still going to do a Krav Maga weekend course with my kids, having read the comments from the knowledgeable poster above, in the hope that they get those reflexes and it may even spark an interest in martial arts with them.

Personally, kick the nuts, palm hard into the nose and leg it.

Be safe out there peeps.

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