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"Ive watched him on Joe Rogans pod cast! I can't keep up with him when he talks , im more ofca Bill Burr type ! "Bill Burr is the man. No filter with him. Gas altogether | |||
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"Yeah its common sense stuff that yer not "allowed" to say! Cracks me up! " It's how he says it more than what he says haha. | |||
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"Any of you watch his content ? I find him fascinating to listen to. Some of his stuff I don't agree with but he does articulate himself well and very thought provoking. Always good to challenge our own beliefs and perspectives. Otherwise we live in an echo chamber of our own bias ." From.Guardian article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. “Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” Dangerous old school conservative, philosopher for so called alt right. Not my cup of tea. | |||
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"From.Guardian article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. “Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” Dangerous old school conservative, philosopher for so called alt right. Not my cup of tea. " He's not my "cup of tea" either which is part of why I find him fascinating. I like challenging myself and for me I don't need to like someone to find them fascinating to listen to. He's much more than a "goof" and to suggest he is I think is woefully inaccurate. Some of his religious views for instance I have no agreement with but I still like to listen to the opposite of what I think on a lot of issues. I can see why he appeals to the right wing for sure I do. That said having watched a reasonable amount of his content I think to designate him as just a controversialist or a goof etc is unnecessarily dismissive. | |||
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"From.Guardian article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. “Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” Dangerous old school conservative, philosopher for so called alt right. Not my cup of tea. He's not my "cup of tea" either which is part of why I find him fascinating. I like challenging myself and for me I don't need to like someone to find them fascinating to listen to. He's much more than a "goof" and to suggest he is I think is woefully inaccurate. Some of his religious views for instance I have no agreement with but I still like to listen to the opposite of what I think on a lot of issues. I can see why he appeals to the right wing for sure I do. That said having watched a reasonable amount of his content I think to designate him as just a controversialist or a goof etc is unnecessarily dismissive." Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? I also listen to the other side to my own views, but don't promote them. | |||
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"It's an ooen forum intended for discussion. Who do you find worth listening to who doesn't share a lot of your views out of curiosity ? " I have an open mind and listen to as wide a range of topics and ideas and thinkers as possible, I try not to restrict myself to those who I agree with. | |||
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"It's an ooen forum intended for discussion. Who do you find worth listening to who doesn't share a lot of your views out of curiosity ? I have an open mind and listen to as wide a range of topics and ideas and thinkers as possible, I try not to restrict myself to those who I agree with. " Such as ? | |||
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"It's an ooen forum intended for discussion. Who do you find worth listening to who doesn't share a lot of your views out of curiosity ? I have an open mind and listen to as wide a range of topics and ideas and thinkers as possible, I try not to restrict myself to those who I agree with. Such as ?" Didn't I just answer that question. Not going to single out one just for you. And like I said I do not want to acknowledge or give a platform to those I disagree with, let alone promote one. So please move politely on. | |||
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"It's an ooen forum intended for discussion. Who do you find worth listening to who doesn't share a lot of your views out of curiosity ? I have an open mind and listen to as wide a range of topics and ideas and thinkers as possible, I try not to restrict myself to those who I agree with. Such as ? Didn't I just answer that question. Not going to single out one just for you. And like I said I do not want to acknowledge or give a platform to those I disagree with, let alone promote one. So please move politely on. " So you are for free speech but not for someone expressing free speech ? That's fair if you don't want to provide an example and just use vague rhetoric as evidence of listening to people who you disagree with. Up to you and under no obligation to answer to me. Just for the sake of discussion when you quote articles that describe Peterson as dangerous etc I thought it might give your statement more credibility to mention who in particular you are thinking of. | |||
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"It's an ooen forum intended for discussion. Who do you find worth listening to who doesn't share a lot of your views out of curiosity ? I have an open mind and listen to as wide a range of topics and ideas and thinkers as possible, I try not to restrict myself to those who I agree with. Such as ? Didn't I just answer that question. Not going to single out one just for you. And like I said I do not want to acknowledge or give a platform to those I disagree with, let alone promote one. So please move politely on. So you are for free speech but not for someone expressing free speech ? That's fair if you don't want to provide an example and just use vague rhetoric as evidence of listening to people who you disagree with. Up to you and under no obligation to answer to me. Just for the sake of discussion when you quote articles that describe Peterson as dangerous etc I thought it might give your statement more credibility to mention who in particular you are thinking of. " Like you say I don't have to justify myself to you, nor quote what I read in fact. I posted the link to provide a balance to your obvious fawning. So others could consider where this guy is coming from. Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. | |||
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"Hes an absolute Titan! His complete and utter destruction of the interviewer on C4 was something to behold. Not many people can leave a interviewer ao speechless." So you're saying..... | |||
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"I find him pretty worrying to be honest, he seems to have some videos that go into the sphere of 'pick up techniques' or 'how to be the alpha male', and then other videos where he talks about nazism and how hitler was misunderstood. Obviously targeting male college students and the new incel culture. He's very clever at twisting things and his audience is growing in number. I watched a few videos and keep getting suggested more by youtube so he's obviously got the internet marketing thing sussed pretty well too. I've had enough of him, hopefully him and Trump both become old news soon."  | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? " " Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. " First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. " Yawn. I made no such implication about denying you free speech on an open forum, I questioned why you would promote him, by bringing him to the forums' attention. And whilst admitting to not liking some of his religious beliefs and thoughts, you admired his approach and techniques,I believe. What do you think of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community? | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. Yawn. I made no such implication about denying you free speech on an open forum, I questioned why you would promote him, by bringing him to the forums' attention. And whilst admitting to not liking some of his religious beliefs and thoughts, you admired his approach and techniques,I believe. What do you think of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community?" Yawn ? Best you can do when you can't provide evidence of who you listen to that goes against your own narrative . I've given you the chance for a healthy debate but much like many opposition political parties it's easier for you to wave the flag rather than jump in and take accountability for your own perspective. I've not heard all of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community. As a tv/ts I'm somewhat biased but my own subjective experience doesn't negate his right to have an opinion regardless of how wrong I think he is. He does at least debate the points and not just make blanket statements like so many of the right wing tend to do. I don't have to like someone to be fascinated by their thought process. You seem to think there is a causation and correlation between me being fascinated by his content and liking him personally. People who read books about serial killers/cult leaders etc are most likely fascinated hy them. It does not automatically they like them. The question marks do imply in where I previously quoted you that I shouldn't bring him up in the manner I did on a public forum. The interesting thing is you use the guardian and a Canadian magazine to initially articulate your points. Rather than using them why not use counter argument of who you thought was a good example for people to research ? Simply put it's easy to moan and not provide alternative suggestions. This isn't a dig at you specifically. It seems commonplace in modern society. | |||
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"Hes an absolute Titan! His complete and utter destruction of the interviewer on C4 was something to behold. Not many people can leave a interviewer ao speechless." The only down side to that moment was the “HA got ya”. To not reply would have had more of an impact in my opinion. | |||
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"Hes an absolute Titan! His complete and utter destruction of the interviewer on C4 was something to behold. Not many people can leave a interviewer ao speechless. The only down side to that moment was the “HA got ya”. To not reply would have had more of an impact in my opinion. " thats actually a good point | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. Yawn. I made no such implication about denying you free speech on an open forum, I questioned why you would promote him, by bringing him to the forums' attention. And whilst admitting to not liking some of his religious beliefs and thoughts, you admired his approach and techniques,I believe. What do you think of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community? Yawn ? Best you can do when you can't provide evidence of who you listen to that goes against your own narrative . I've given you the chance for a healthy debate but much like many opposition political parties it's easier for you to wave the flag rather than jump in and take accountability for your own perspective. I've not heard all of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community. As a tv/ts I'm somewhat biased but my own subjective experience doesn't negate his right to have an opinion regardless of how wrong I think he is. He does at least debate the points and not just make blanket statements like so many of the right wing tend to do. I don't have to like someone to be fascinated by their thought process. You seem to think there is a causation and correlation between me being fascinated by his content and liking him personally. People who read books about serial killers/cult leaders etc are most likely fascinated hy them. It does not automatically they like them. The question marks do imply in where I previously quoted you that I shouldn't bring him up in the manner I did on a public forum. The interesting thing is you use the guardian and a Canadian magazine to initially articulate your points. Rather than using them why not use counter argument of who you thought was a good example for people to research ? Simply put it's easy to moan and not provide alternative suggestions. This isn't a dig at you specifically. It seems commonplace in modern society. " Yawn and double yawn, why do you presume you can demand that I tell you who or what I listen to or read? I gave up reading g after you said that, I can't be bothered with the rest of your reply to be honest, so good night Vienna. | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. Yawn. I made no such implication about denying you free speech on an open forum, I questioned why you would promote him, by bringing him to the forums' attention. And whilst admitting to not liking some of his religious beliefs and thoughts, you admired his approach and techniques,I believe. What do you think of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community? Yawn ? Best you can do when you can't provide evidence of who you listen to that goes against your own narrative . I've given you the chance for a healthy debate but much like many opposition political parties it's easier for you to wave the flag rather than jump in and take accountability for your own perspective. I've not heard all of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community. As a tv/ts I'm somewhat biased but my own subjective experience doesn't negate his right to have an opinion regardless of how wrong I think he is. He does at least debate the points and not just make blanket statements like so many of the right wing tend to do. I don't have to like someone to be fascinated by their thought process. You seem to think there is a causation and correlation between me being fascinated by his content and liking him personally. People who read books about serial killers/cult leaders etc are most likely fascinated hy them. It does not automatically they like them. The question marks do imply in where I previously quoted you that I shouldn't bring him up in the manner I did on a public forum. The interesting thing is you use the guardian and a Canadian magazine to initially articulate your points. Rather than using them why not use counter argument of who you thought was a good example for people to research ? Simply put it's easy to moan and not provide alternative suggestions. This isn't a dig at you specifically. It seems commonplace in modern society. Yawn and double yawn, why do you presume you can demand that I tell you who or what I listen to or read? I gave up reading g after you said that, I can't be bothered with the rest of your reply to be honest, so good night Vienna. " I don't presume. You don't back up your claim which is laughable as it rids you of any credibility whatsoever. I enjoy differing points of view when people can back up their claims with reasons. You have a garrulous tone and lack any cohesive argument and hence use "yawn" as a defence mechanism. I can see you are hurting. It's ok. It's just the internet. Maybe take a rest darling xoxox | |||
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"Can you not manage a better response than the word Yawn? Sounds defeatist!" I can't be bothered when the person has asked a question, what do you think of this person? And when they get a reply their reaction is to get personal, demand that I tell them what I read or listen to and then proceed to dictate how I should have replied to them. A tad egotistical and unnecessarily confrontational, so I will leave them to it.read the Guardian link, it's a good read. Cheers. | |||
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"Allowing free speech is one thing ,but promoting his kind on an open forum????? Note how I have not said anything against free speech. And fyi I didn't make a statement, just provided info, if I'm wrong please show me. First of all Im not promoting him. Second of all even if I was his biggest fan implying I shouldn't on a public forum with question marks is an implication against excercising the free speech to do so. Yawn. I made no such implication about denying you free speech on an open forum, I questioned why you would promote him, by bringing him to the forums' attention. And whilst admitting to not liking some of his religious beliefs and thoughts, you admired his approach and techniques,I believe. What do you think of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community? Yawn ? Best you can do when you can't provide evidence of who you listen to that goes against your own narrative . I've given you the chance for a healthy debate but much like many opposition political parties it's easier for you to wave the flag rather than jump in and take accountability for your own perspective. I've not heard all of his thoughts on the LGBTQ community. As a tv/ts I'm somewhat biased but my own subjective experience doesn't negate his right to have an opinion regardless of how wrong I think he is. He does at least debate the points and not just make blanket statements like so many of the right wing tend to do. I don't have to like someone to be fascinated by their thought process. You seem to think there is a causation and correlation between me being fascinated by his content and liking him personally. People who read books about serial killers/cult leaders etc are most likely fascinated hy them. It does not automatically they like them. The question marks do imply in where I previously quoted you that I shouldn't bring him up in the manner I did on a public forum. The interesting thing is you use the guardian and a Canadian magazine to initially articulate your points. Rather than using them why not use counter argument of who you thought was a good example for people to research ? Simply put it's easy to moan and not provide alternative suggestions. This isn't a dig at you specifically. It seems commonplace in modern society. Yawn and double yawn, why do you presume you can demand that I tell you who or what I listen to or read? I gave up reading g after you said that, I can't be bothered with the rest of your reply to be honest, so good night Vienna. I don't presume. You don't back up your claim which is laughable as it rids you of any credibility whatsoever. I enjoy differing points of view when people can back up their claims with reasons. You have a garrulous tone and lack any cohesive argument and hence use "yawn" as a defence mechanism. I can see you are hurting. It's ok. It's just the internet. Maybe take a rest darling xoxox" I wasn't here for an argument, you obviously are , I don't have to back up any claims, as I didn't make any. I provided a link to a very well written article on the topic of your post,actually I did claim that he was not my cup of tea, but I don't see why I have to make account of why, and provide quotes and examples of what I read to explain that, I'm not writing a thesis. Your last paragraph shows you up to be the person you are, shines through clearly. | |||
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" I wasn't here for an argument, you obviously are , I don't have to back up any claims, as I didn't make any. I provided a link to a very well written article on the topic of your post,actually I did claim that he was not my cup of tea, but I don't see why I have to make account of why, and provide quotes and examples of what I read to explain that, I'm not writing a thesis. Your last paragraph shows you up to be the person you are, shines through clearly. " You have absolutely no idea of the kind of person that I am sweetheart. Trust me on that. I just don't tolerate bullshit . You may be a nice fella but at this stage I can see you are living in a cloud of your own cognitive bias. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I wish you well on your adventures here. | |||
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" I wasn't here for an argument, you obviously are , I don't have to back up any claims, as I didn't make any. I provided a link to a very well written article on the topic of your post,actually I did claim that he was not my cup of tea, but I don't see why I have to make account of why, and provide quotes and examples of what I read to explain that, I'm not writing a thesis. Your last paragraph shows you up to be the person you are, shines through clearly. You have absolutely no idea of the kind of person that I am sweetheart. Trust me on that. I just don't tolerate bullshit . You may be a nice fella but at this stage I can see you are living in a cloud of your own cognitive bias. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I wish you well on your adventures here. " I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable.  | |||
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" I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable. "I'm sorry you are upset. Thanks for your time as I said. I certainly do know what cognitive bias is and glad to see you haven't denied it. I'd humbly suggest you learn a little bit of psychology and you shall also see it's a very interesting subject. Take care sweetheart. As I said best of luck on here. | |||
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" I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable.
I'm sorry you are upset. Thanks for your time as I said. I certainly do know what cognitive bias is and glad to see you haven't denied it.
I'd humbly suggest you learn a little bit of psychology and you shall also see it's a very interesting subject.
Take care sweetheart. As I said best of luck on here. "Good morning, again you assume so much How do you know I haven't read a psychology book. It's obvious that you have probably read one, a little knowledge and all that 
Your patronising and condescending use of terms of endearment ? Why resort to this?
If I were to do this to a Female, the forum would be on my back, but your continued use of these terms to refer to me is ok? Why?
As said before, it does tell me a lot about you.
I am not in pain, hurting or any way troubled as you assume, it's a forum not the colluseum
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"He has a brilliant mind, he is not a right winger though, classical liberal would be the closest description of him in his own words." That is right wing. Small government with as little influence on private lives and business as possible. | |||
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"He has a brilliant mind, he is not a right winger though, classical liberal would be the closest description of him in his own words. That is right wing. Small government with as little influence on private lives and business as possible." I would say more centrist myself, as he speaks out against both left and right, while maybe sharing some views of either side, in the modern use of the term right winger I certainly would not see him there. | |||
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" I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable.
I'm sorry you are upset. Thanks for your time as I said. I certainly do know what cognitive bias is and glad to see you haven't denied it.
I'd humbly suggest you learn a little bit of psychology and you shall also see it's a very interesting subject.
Take care sweetheart. As I said best of luck on here.
Good morning, again you assume so much
How do you know I haven't read a psychology book. It's obvious that you have probably read one, a little knowledge and all that
Your patronising and condescending use of terms of endearment ? Why resort to this?
If I were to do this to a Female, the forum would be on my back, but your continued use of these terms to refer to me is ok? Why?
As said before, it does tell me a lot about you.
I am not in pain, hurting or any way troubled as you assume, it's a forum not the colluseum
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"He has a brilliant mind, he is not a right winger though, classical liberal would be the closest description of him in his own words. That is right wing. Small government with as little influence on private lives and business as possible. I would say more centrist myself, as he speaks out against both left and right, while maybe sharing some views of either side, in the modern use of the term right winger I certainly would not see him there." This is what frustrates me about right/left debate. It's not as simple as an either/or situation! I'm not having a go or anything, genuinely interested, but would you mind me asking why you don't think Peterson is right wing? | |||
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"He has a brilliant mind, he is not a right winger though, classical liberal would be the closest description of him in his own words. That is right wing. Small government with as little influence on private lives and business as possible. I would say more centrist myself, as he speaks out against both left and right, while maybe sharing some views of either side, in the modern use of the term right winger I certainly would not see him there. This is what frustrates me about right/left debate. It's not as simple as an either/or situation! I'm not having a go or anything, genuinely interested, but would you mind me asking why you don't think Peterson is right wing? " well firstly he doesn't consider himself right wing, but also he doesn't come with the same rhetoric of the right, infact I've seen him ridicule the right wing nationalists in videos.the lines of right and left are shifting constantly though and to extremes in both cases, I mean look at our own country, labour would have been a traditional left wing party , then along comes pbp with a much more radical and imo dangerous left ideology and it makes labour look like a right wing party, so it could also be the same with peterson | |||
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"well firstly he doesn't consider himself right wing, but also he doesn't come with the same rhetoric of the right, infact I've seen him ridicule the right wing nationalists in videos.the lines of right and left are shifting constantly though and to extremes in both cases, I mean look at our own country, labour would have been a traditional left wing party , then along comes pbp with a much more radical and imo dangerous left ideology and it makes labour look like a right wing party, so it could also be the same with peterson " I've always viewed the right as minimal government and socially conservative, left as big government and socially liberal. For me, JP falls on the right of the spectrum... But definitions and standards change, no doubt. Plus, the further to the extremes you get on both sides, the closer the get to each other. Think it's called the horseshoe theory. Thing is, he mightn't classify himself as right wing, but he seems to be held in high regard on that (admittly nebulous) side of things | |||
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"Thread has taken a positive turn to healthy discussion. Good to see differing views on Peterson and how he is perceived." You said earlier you don't agree with some of what he says... What do you agree with? | |||
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"well firstly he doesn't consider himself right wing, but also he doesn't come with the same rhetoric of the right, infact I've seen him ridicule the right wing nationalists in videos.the lines of right and left are shifting constantly though and to extremes in both cases, I mean look at our own country, labour would have been a traditional left wing party , then along comes pbp with a much more radical and imo dangerous left ideology and it makes labour look like a right wing party, so it could also be the same with peterson I've always viewed the right as minimal government and socially conservative, left as big government and socially liberal. For me, JP falls on the right of the spectrum... But definitions and standards change, no doubt. Plus, the further to the extremes you get on both sides, the closer the get to each other. Think it's called the horseshoe theory. Thing is, he mightn't classify himself as right wing, but he seems to be held in high regard on that (admittly nebulous) side of things" yes agreed on that, the right or alt right hold him up as a poster boy, but just because they are both against the same thing doesn't mean they are coming from the same base, his view is that everyone should be against it, while at the same time he warns against the extremes of both sides. | |||
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"Thread has taken a positive turn to healthy discussion. Good to see differing views on Peterson and how he is perceived." it goes to show the impact he is having that we have all heard of him, and also how we get our news and the type of news we search. | |||
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"Thread has taken a positive turn to healthy discussion. Good to see differing views on Peterson and how he is perceived. You said earlier you don't agree with some of what he says... What do you agree with?" I like how he will criticise both sides of the political spectrum. I like that he sees atheists as people who largely think more about the bible for instance than a lot of conswrvative christians. He may not agree with the atheist/agnostic view but does recognise the thought process behind it. From my view it's not so kuch that I agree with him on a lot but I can often see his viewpoint even if I vehemently disagree with his opinion. | |||
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"Thread has taken a positive turn to healthy discussion. Good to see differing views on Peterson and how he is perceived. You said earlier you don't agree with some of what he says... What do you agree with? I like how he will criticise both sides of the political spectrum. I like that he sees atheists as people who largely think more about the bible for instance than a lot of conswrvative christians. He may not agree with the atheist/agnostic view but does recognise the thought process behind it. From my view it's not so kuch that I agree with him on a lot but I can often see his viewpoint even if I vehemently disagree with his opinion." See, that's the thing. I disagree vehemently with a huge amount of what he says and how his fan base interprets it. I recognise that his arguments are meticulous and he's a skilled orator but just because he can string a sentence together doesn't make me respect his arguments. And I think the respect afforded to him means his dogwhistling is given a wider audience than it warrants. | |||
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"Thread has taken a positive turn to healthy discussion. Good to see differing views on Peterson and how he is perceived. You said earlier you don't agree with some of what he says... What do you agree with? I like how he will criticise both sides of the political spectrum. I like that he sees atheists as people who largely think more about the bible for instance than a lot of conswrvative christians. He may not agree with the atheist/agnostic view but does recognise the thought process behind it. From my view it's not so kuch that I agree with him on a lot but I can often see his viewpoint even if I vehemently disagree with his opinion. See, that's the thing. I disagree vehemently with a huge amount of what he says and how his fan base interprets it. I recognise that his arguments are meticulous and he's a skilled orator but just because he can string a sentence together doesn't make me respect his arguments. And I think the respect afforded to him means his dogwhistling is given a wider audience than it warrants." In all honesty I dont think we are miles apart in a lot of what we are saying. I am fascinated by him but it does not mean I like the chap personally. I do see though a value for his "side" in how he constructs his own side (at times he goes off the rails for sure with religious doctrine)., To maybe use a sporting comparison. I don't like Jose Mourinho.. in fact I quite dislike him but on the other hand can see the value in how he sets up his teams to win. Despite me not agreeing with his footballing philosophy I can see why fans of his absolutely adore him. Basic analogy I know but for the sake of discussion I hope you see where I am coming from. | |||
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" I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable.
I'm sorry you are upset. Thanks for your time as I said. I certainly do know what cognitive bias is and glad to see you haven't denied it.
I'd humbly suggest you learn a little bit of psychology and you shall also see it's a very interesting subject.
Take care sweetheart. As I said best of luck on here.
Good morning, again you assume so much
How do you know I haven't read a psychology book. It's obvious that you have probably read one, a little knowledge and all that
Your patronising and condescending use of terms of endearment ? Why resort to this?
If I were to do this to a Female, the forum would be on my back, but your continued use of these terms to refer to me is ok? Why?
As said before, it does tell me a lot about you.
I am not in pain, hurting or any way troubled as you assume, it's a forum not the colluseum
Ok hun. Take care. You are loved . Just remember that.x"And back with the condescending terms, I wonder what makes you revert to your stereotype, maybe it's you who is hurting, take care of yourself, you seem to be seeking attention for something, hope you find it. | |||
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" I think you have given me a good indication as to the type of person you are. I don't bullshit, but can spot a bullshitter mile off. Wow, you know what cognitive bias is, you are so knowledgeable.
I'm sorry you are upset. Thanks for your time as I said. I certainly do know what cognitive bias is and glad to see you haven't denied it.
I'd humbly suggest you learn a little bit of psychology and you shall also see it's a very interesting subject.
Take care sweetheart. As I said best of luck on here.
Good morning, again you assume so much
How do you know I haven't read a psychology book. It's obvious that you have probably read one, a little knowledge and all that
Your patronising and condescending use of terms of endearment ? Why resort to this?
If I were to do this to a Female, the forum would be on my back, but your continued use of these terms to refer to me is ok? Why?
As said before, it does tell me a lot about you.
I am not in pain, hurting or any way troubled as you assume, it's a forum not the colluseum
Ok hun. Take care. You are loved . Just remember that.x
And back with the condescending terms, I wonder what makes you revert to your stereotype, maybe it's you who is hurting, take care of yourself, you seem to be seeking attention for something, hope you find it. " | |||
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"I find him pretty worrying to be honest, he seems to have some videos that go into the sphere of 'pick up techniques' or 'how to be the alpha male', and then other videos where he talks about nazism and how hitler was misunderstood. Obviously targeting male college students and the new incel culture. He's very clever at twisting things and his audience is growing in number. I watched a few videos and keep getting suggested more by youtube so he's obviously got the internet marketing thing sussed pretty well too. I've had enough of him, hopefully him and Trump both become old news soon." You watched but a few. He talks about Nazism but in a retrospect of how an idea that claims to benefit society ends up killing millions. He talks about why there are alpha types and Beta types yes but he merely breaks down the sociological structure of those. Hes not saying watch my vids to be an alpha male | |||
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