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By *ontbesillywrapyourwilly OP   Man
over a year ago

Tipperary

for me teenagers are so more advanced now then when I was 13/14 yoa. I didn't even know what Facebook was back then or tinder etc. also access to all these internet sites has some dour consequences with what they're exposed to. are parents to blame or does it go beyond that? also take into account online bullying among teenagers which is gone through the chart. where does it stop? what's your view?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s because Facebook and tinder didn’t exist when you were 13.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I hate to say it with phones and tablets now a day's this is all their technology. Kids are growing up with the internet readily available. As parents there is only so much we can do. My kids are still small so easily manage their internet usage.

My sister wouldn't allow her teenage kids much internet time at home but they can access it through friends and even through the school. I dread what it will be like for my kids again they are teenagers.

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By *ildmovementMan
over a year ago

Dublin

I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwilly OP   Man
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. "
would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases.

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By *ildmovementMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases. "

I don’t think it’s about letting them. I don’t think they can be stopped unless your sitting with them 24/7. They will access them on there mates phones or under different names and false ages. It’s about having a relationship with them and teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and themselves.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwilly OP   Man
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases.

I don’t think it’s about letting them. I don’t think they can be stopped unless your sitting with them 24/7. They will access them on there mates phones or under different names and false ages. It’s about having a relationship with them and teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and themselves. "
you can't stop them fully but would you stop your own child in or around that age having a smartphone and or tablet?

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By *ohnandGemCouple
over a year ago

Louth/Meath/Dublin


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases.

I don’t think it’s about letting them. I don’t think they can be stopped unless your sitting with them 24/7. They will access them on there mates phones or under different names and false ages. It’s about having a relationship with them and teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and themselves. you can't stop them fully but would you stop your own child in or around that age having a smartphone and or tablet?"

I'm 42. I first used the internet at about aged 18/19 in college. I grew up with the internet, and know how to use it. That said, it's the parents responsibility to oversee what goes on in their homes. That includes internet access. And the "I don't know anything about technology" argument doesnt wash. Fucking learn. Otherwise you're just lazy.

By all means get them all the tablets and phones they want, but restrict them up the wazoo*

*I don't have kids so I've not had to do this yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases.

I don’t think it’s about letting them. I don’t think they can be stopped unless your sitting with them 24/7. They will access them on there mates phones or under different names and false ages. It’s about having a relationship with them and teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and themselves. you can't stop them fully but would you stop your own child in or around that age having a smartphone and or tablet?"

I wouldn't stop them having a phone as in this day and age I think it's important for them to have a way to contact someone if they ate in trouble. A button phone would be all they would get though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s as much about the apps like Facebook or Tinder or any of those as when younger we were as inquisitive as they are now we just didn’t have the access that they do. I think there are pro’s and con’s to it and it’s whether the benefits out weigh the bad that we have to judge.

It’s the fact that there is a lot less face to face social interaction that I think poses the biggest problem. If they are on the devices and are still bringing friends round to the house or invited to friends houses and also getting out for some activities then this is the way this planet is going.

When younger the world was a small place and travelling to the other side of the country was an adventure. The world is a much smaller place now. would you let a 12/13 yo have readily active use of the net? there is so many social media sites out there today and others it's unreal. I read cases lately that online bullying is massive and is leading to suicide in some cases.

I don’t think it’s about letting them. I don’t think they can be stopped unless your sitting with them 24/7. They will access them on there mates phones or under different names and false ages. It’s about having a relationship with them and teaching them right and wrong and respect for others and themselves. "

Exactly this. They need to be taught the consequences of sending personal stuff to people. You b surprised how many teenagers are taking naked pics sending to people they think they can trust and than its sent to all their mates. Online bullying is huge in this country and we have very little resources to tackle it. Even been bullied on facebook to report it is a complete nightmare only think we can do as parents its hope we have a good relationship with pur kids that they can tell us or some family member if something us happening

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By *xplicitMan
over a year ago

donegal

You cant stop teenagers developing normally within the society they grow in..its no different to parenting years ago..same challenges only different.The key is, and always has been a good rapport respect and values that dont alter from an early age.Then they will use the internet responsibly without having to go behind your back to do so.

The biggest mistake is to forget what we were all like as teenagers

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"You cant stop teenagers developing normally within the society they grow in..its no different to parenting years ago..same challenges only different.The key is, and always has been a good rapport respect and values that dont alter from an early age.Then they will use the internet responsibly without having to go behind your back to do so.

The biggest mistake is to forget what we were all like as teenagers "

Very true and good comment.

A friend of mine didn't allow his kids Facebook or others until they finished secondary school. Interesting idea. They could use internet but not social media.

Personally, once kids are over 10, or before, I'm installing OpenDNS on the house router, which is free and gives the parent full control over all house internet traffic in what appears to be a very manageable way.

Whilst mine have access to tablets and consoles, there is no social/chat connection with anybody currently and the new Xbox allows parents approval and tracking of any new contact/spending/time limits across multiple devices.

I have to admit, I'm a little technology fluent so, it's likely easier for me, though still a bit time consuming setting it up initially. Then again, what price do we put on child safety. It's a lot different to sneaking a look at the lingerie section in the Debenhams catalog years ago, or passing around a copy of Playboy in the smoking shed at the back of the school years ago. The time spent steaming the pages apart

As for phones,I like the idea of button phones up to a certain age.

When I get to the point of considering it, I'm sure I can get a Samsung phone that stays in Kids Mode unless I unlock it. That allows the parent to determine what Contacts/games/apps are on the device, along with times and duration of use, in a very easy interface.

It's quite a bit of an issue but with proper caution and, as mentioned above, good rapport with your kids, all should work out well

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwilly OP   Man
over a year ago

Tipperary

thank God I don't have kids is all I'll say

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"thank God I don't have kids is all I'll say "

Ah no, they're great, the little feckers

Sure otherwise we would only be looking after ourselves and I've failed at that miserably

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"thank God I don't have kids is all I'll say "

Ah no, they're great, the little feckers

Sure otherwise we would only be looking after ourselves and I've failed at that miserably

Kids are a chance to redeem yourself and enhance the next generation, warning them of the pitfalls and trying to direct them to make the best of themselves, to be a better person than yourself.

Hence the not giving them the notion that men can do whatever they like with women and that women are close to orgasm, saying Oh My God every time you tickle them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids are going to see The Bad Things and trying to move them away from that is going to be futile. If you block it on the PC they'll just go to their friends, etc.

Best thing you can do is educate them yourself rather than attempting to parent from the shadows

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin


"Kids are going to see The Bad Things and trying to move them away from that is going to be futile. If you block it on the PC they'll just go to their friends, etc.

Best thing you can do is educate them yourself rather than attempting to parent from the shadows"

I somewhat agree but we must all try to do similar. Going to mates, where the same internet restrictions are in place means it's the same safe(ish) environment. It's not like we all knew where the guys with the porn mags were and congregated around their gaff (ahem!)

Yes, education, frankness, open and honest conversation with the young adults is essential

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