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"Here's one for you all..... Sexless marriage is it a form of Cheating." No. But if you go looking elsewhere for sex without a discussion with your beloved it becomes yes. Guys, most of you know how to play a card game right? So you're playing Blackjack but you think the dealer is giving you bad cards, can you decide that 19 is now Blackjack instead of 21? Or would you just leave? | |||
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"Would you class the denial of sex between partners in marriage as a form of betrayal ?" Not unless you had a 'regular sex' clause in the wedding contract. I have never heard it be mentioned though.... for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, With wild sex at least twice a week... | |||
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"How many threads on the subject do you need to post? I don't think the answers will change from previous posts/threads" | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener " But technically speaking couples are cheating even if their partner knows what they are up to. | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener But technically speaking couples are cheating even if their partner knows what they are up to." Uh, no they're not, if both parties are consenting and there is no deceit involved. | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener But technically speaking couples are cheating even if their partner knows what they are up to." No deceit, lies or sneaking about so no it's not cheating | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener But technically speaking couples are cheating even if their partner knows what they are up to." Yes I agree... | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener But technically speaking couples are cheating even if their partner knows what they are up to. No deceit, lies or sneaking about so no it's not cheating " It's not cheating, it's a non monogamous relationship. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion." You need educated then on the lifestyle | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion." I'm 100% sure the partners don't disclose everything that goes on a meet either... Conventionally it is mortally wrong and people use the phrase if he/she knows it's not cheating... And then we have the couples who have relationships with guys/girls outside their non monogamous relationships what are they then? | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. I'm 100% sure the partners don't disclose everything that goes on a meet either... Conventionally it is mortally wrong and people use the phrase if he/she knows it's not cheating... And then we have the couples who have relationships with guys/girls outside their non monogamous relationships what are they then? " Anything going on behind a partners back is cheating whether people like that word or not .. I personally couldn't care less what people do in their private lives that's their business but swinging as a cpl with each others knowledge is not cheating ...for those who play alone or seperate what is there to tell other than they fucked, adding to that in an honest open swinging relationship the trust is there as there are no secrets so no Spanish inquisition after a meet anyways | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle " Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. I'm 100% sure the partners don't disclose everything that goes on a meet either... Conventionally it is mortally wrong and people use the phrase if he/she knows it's not cheating... And then we have the couples who have relationships with guys/girls outside their non monogamous relationships what are they then? Anything going on behind a partners back is cheating whether people like that word or not .. I personally couldn't care less what people do in their private lives that's their business but swinging as a cpl with each others knowledge is not cheating ...for those who play alone or seperate what is there to tell other than they fucked, adding to that in an honest open swinging relationship the trust is there as there are no secrets so no Spanish inquisition after a meet anyways " Well for me it's so much more! You can cheat without ever having sex. Each to their own. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill." Awe one of those | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle " Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong." Yawn | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn " Good intelligent answer. Lol | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol" Thats as intelligent as it gets | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol Thats as intelligent as it gets " Wee reminder your on our blocked list juicyhard so stop interacting with my posts thanks | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol" About as intelligent as your take on couples swinging | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol Thats as intelligent as it gets Wee reminder your on our blocked list juicyhard so stop interacting with my posts thanks " Two wee reminders One it's a public forum And two it's against site rules to mention the b word. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol Thats as intelligent as it gets Wee reminder your on our blocked list juicyhard so stop interacting with my posts thanks Two wee reminders One it's a public forum And two it's against site rules to mention the b word. " If u know the rules stop trying to interact with us thanks | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol Thats as intelligent as it gets Wee reminder your on our blocked list juicyhard so stop interacting with my posts thanks Two wee reminders One it's a public forum And two it's against site rules to mention the b word. If u know the rules stop trying to interact with us thanks " That ain't against the rules | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. Yawn Good intelligent answer. Lol About as intelligent as your take on couples swinging " We are both entitled to our opinion. | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? " Come cheat with me we can watch it together but don't tell jack | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? " Yes! If you said you'd wait... | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Yes! If you said you'd wait..." | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Come cheat with me we can watch it together but don't tell jack " Can't cheat if you're in a polyGOTamous relationship | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Yes! If you said you'd wait... " OMG! I'd kill him if he said he couldn't wait and already watched it, I'd feel so betrayed! | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill." | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Come cheat with me we can watch it together but don't tell jack Can't cheat if you're in a polyGOTamous relationship " very good | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Yes! If you said you'd wait... OMG! I'd kill him if he said he couldn't wait and already watched it, I'd feel so betrayed!" I would be looking for a new king of the north | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Yes! If you said you'd wait... OMG! I'd kill him if he said he couldn't wait and already watched it, I'd feel so betrayed! I would be looking for a new king of the north " And winter would arrive immediately | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Yes! If you said you'd wait... OMG! I'd kill him if he said he couldn't wait and already watched it, I'd feel so betrayed! I would be looking for a new king of the north And winter would arrive immediately " Definitely a cold shoulder for cheating | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill." And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. | |||
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"Is watching the new series of GOT on your own cheating? Come cheat with me we can watch it together but don't tell jack Can't cheat if you're in a polyGOTamous relationship " Haha yep, you got it right! | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one." Mostly stating facts to that point. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle " Dont feed that hunni x | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Dont feed that hunni x " | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. " When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying... | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying..." | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying..." Think if you read back up the thread was going fine all adult opinions until as usual it was side tracked... Onwards and upwards ..back to my cheating swinging ways | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying... Think if you read back up the thread was going fine all adult opinions until as usual it was side tracked... Onwards and upwards ..back to my cheating swinging ways " Just because someone make's a comment that you don't agree with that's no reason to throw you're toys out of the pram. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying... Think if you read back up the thread was going fine all adult opinions until as usual it was side tracked... Onwards and upwards ..back to my cheating swinging ways Just because someone make's a comment that you don't agree with that's no reason to throw you're toys out of the pram." I'm not getting into your game sorry ...happy swinging/cheating whatever label you wish to put on it ... We enjoy it regardless | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying... Think if you read back up the thread was going fine all adult opinions until as usual it was side tracked... Onwards and upwards ..back to my cheating swinging ways Just because someone make's a comment that you don't agree with that's no reason to throw you're toys out of the pram." I agree... | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Nah, he's just stirring as usual. It's his little daily thrill. And what are the others doing? You think his opinion is stirring yet others it's constitutes as genuine stingers advice... Good one. Mostly stating facts to that point. When someone displays a opinion weather they are right or wrong it's their choice.. When somebody picks on somebody because of that opinion it's then bullying... Think if you read back up the thread was going fine all adult opinions until as usual it was side tracked... Onwards and upwards ..back to my cheating swinging ways " I read the thread in its entirety as I always do before I comment... And I expressed my opinion also... There are many ways people cheat it doesn't necessarily mean by having sex.. And that's my opinion... The original post is from a man who is in a sexless marriage and asked our opinions, I believe many men/women on here are in sexless marriages and I think if nobody gets hurt why judge... There's emotional relationships where there may be no sex and I think they can be way more hurtful and if half of the couples here knew that their significant others were involved it may be hurtful... But that again is just my opinion I'm not a expert in swinging or relationships...or do I need a education on the subject. | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong." It's not cheating it's swinging... 2 completely different things , 1 is consentual the other is not. 1 involves sneaking around and keeping secrets , the other involves watching your partner being pleasured while someone else pleasures you, fulfilling fantasies you have both comfortably and honestly discussed and are happy to take part in.... If you believe in your heart that it's wrong what the hell are you doing on a swing site???? | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion. You need educated then on the lifestyle Its just my opinion. But don't think I need to be educated on what's right or wrong.We can all find ways to justify things the we know in our Hart's to be wrong. It's not cheating it's swinging... 2 completely different things , 1 is consentual the other is not. 1 involves sneaking around and keeping secrets , the other involves watching your partner being pleasured while someone else pleasures you, fulfilling fantasies you have both comfortably and honestly discussed and are happy to take part in.... If you believe in your heart that it's wrong what the hell are you doing on a swing site????" I'm a single man I'm only cheating on the cat. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it" Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. " Are they married to the Doctor? | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor?" Why are you? | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you?" Why am I what? | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what?" Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship." You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though?" Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* " It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe." Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/17 19:32:27]" True saying never throw stones when you live in a glass house. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/17 19:32:27] True saying never throw stones when you live in a glass house." If you live in a stone house is it ok | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/17 19:32:27] True saying never throw stones when you live in a glass house. If you live in a stone house is it ok " Much easier in a stone house lots of stones. Lol | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/17 19:32:27] True saying never throw stones when you live in a glass house. If you live in a stone house is it ok Much easier in a stone house lots of stones. Lol" Phew I can throw stones then lol | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... " No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/17 19:32:27] True saying never throw stones when you live in a glass house. If you live in a stone house is it ok Much easier in a stone house lots of stones. Lol Phew I can throw stones then lol " Phew that must be a relief. Lol | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating." I can't answer that as I'm not in a relationship or do I want to be. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating. I can't answer that as I'm not in a relationship or do I want to be. " But you have been in a relationship yeah? So you'd know exactly what I mean. Anyway, happy trails Beril. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating. I can't answer that as I'm not in a relationship or do I want to be. But you have been in a relationship yeah? So you'd know exactly what I mean. Anyway, happy trails Beril. " Yes I do.. That's why I'm speaking from experience.. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating. I can't answer that as I'm not in a relationship or do I want to be. But you have been in a relationship yeah? So you'd know exactly what I mean. Anyway, happy trails Beril. Yes I do.. That's why I'm speaking from experience.. " I'd change Doctor if I were you so. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. Are they married to the Doctor? Why are you? Why am I what? Married.. Or Married for that matter? I didn't think you had to be married to be in a relationship. You don't. How would a patient cheat on a doctor though? Well if they were suffering from something such as high cholesterol as I suggested earlier and drank smoked as much as they wanted, would it be okay to do it just because they told the Dr. It was a metaphor... *sigh* It wouldn't be wrong or right. They were given independent advice & they ignored it. Unless you know of a Doc that 'divorces' the patients that don't listen to them it isn't even in the same universe. Again metaphor. It's OK to do something as long as you tell... No. (for example, a murder) But it isn't cheating if you and your partner decide you'd both like to have fun with others (together or singly), discuss the boundaries then proceed. It's duplicity that makes it cheating. I can't answer that as I'm not in a relationship or do I want to be. But you have been in a relationship yeah? So you'd know exactly what I mean. Anyway, happy trails Beril. Yes I do.. That's why I'm speaking from experience.. I'd change Doctor if I were you so." Thanks... I'll remember that Candy | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. I can see that you're trying to use a metaphor but it doesn't quite fit. We'd first have to assume the patient has stood at the altar with the doc and vowed to be health conscious till death do they part So you need to stand at a altar... Hmmm " Odf, for somebody touting metaphors about you don't seem to catch sarcasm. Anyhoo moving on.... | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. I can see that you're trying to use a metaphor but it doesn't quite fit. We'd first have to assume the patient has stood at the altar with the doc and vowed to be health conscious till death do they part So you need to stand at a altar... Hmmm Odf, for somebody touting metaphors about you don't seem to catch sarcasm. Anyhoo moving on...." I'm fluent in sarcasm and I'm pretty sure your off the mark there sorry. | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. I can see that you're trying to use a metaphor but it doesn't quite fit. We'd first have to assume the patient has stood at the altar with the doc and vowed to be health conscious till death do they part So you need to stand at a altar... Hmmm Odf, for somebody touting metaphors about you don't seem to catch sarcasm. Anyhoo moving on.... I'm fluent in sarcasm and I'm pretty sure your off the mark there sorry." Phew, It is a beautiful language afterall. Off the mark in what way? All I'm saying is if you want to compare cheating to a doctor patient relationship to marriage the patient would have to make a commitment to healthy living and the doctor for your metaphor to be viable | |||
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"If the other half doesn't know and consent to their partner having sex with another, its cheating. No matter how you dress it Ah...now I get it!! So a person with high cholesterol can eat and smoke whatever they like as long as it's okay to tell the Dr who's treating them what they done? Perfect logic... Anyone who knows me knows my views on "cheating". Don't judge. I can see that you're trying to use a metaphor but it doesn't quite fit. We'd first have to assume the patient has stood at the altar with the doc and vowed to be health conscious till death do they part So you need to stand at a altar... Hmmm Odf, for somebody touting metaphors about you don't seem to catch sarcasm. Anyhoo moving on.... I'm fluent in sarcasm and I'm pretty sure your off the mark there sorry. Phew, It is a beautiful language afterall. Off the mark in what way? All I'm saying is if you want to compare cheating to a doctor patient relationship to marriage the patient would have to make a commitment to healthy living and the doctor for your metaphor to be viable" I did use a metaphor but I also TRIED to get people to realise that you can cheat and not necessarily have sex, in my opinion having a emotional relationship with a person.. And I know that there's many couples in practice in that situation... You can have cold sex...Yes You can have kinks...Yes But emotions are completely different and..Yes many I do believe are emotionally involved. | |||
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"We humans as a species are by nature always looking to spread our seed and have our eggs fertilized. Orgasms are designed to feel incredible, so as we'll partake in the activity and keep our species numbers up. It's nature's way. As we became intelligent over the years, we complicated matters.. Morals..values..religion..society.. All designed to protect the gene pools and stop the spread of disease. Today's morals dictates we should be in a relationship have kids and be solely with one person.. Some people live like that and some don't. If you cheat and your partner is not happy then you most likely end up single again. If like you your partner might also like to seek out another person then you are swingers. However morals dictate that swinging is a taboo and therefore they also must hide behind the headless pics and secret meetings and clubs. Who's really being cheated on here?? Liberalism... sexuality?? Are we all cheating on societies values?! Cause if nobody knows then we won't be judged!! Is a wank cheating Just have sex and enjoy yourself .. " Only bit of sence made on this thread | |||
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"We humans as a species are by nature always looking to spread our seed and have our eggs fertilized. Orgasms are designed to feel incredible, so as we'll partake in the activity and keep our species numbers up. It's nature's way. As we became intelligent over the years, we complicated matters.. Morals..values..religion..society.. All designed to protect the gene pools and stop the spread of disease. Today's morals dictates we should be in a relationship have kids and be solely with one person.. Some people live like that and some don't. If you cheat and your partner is not happy then you most likely end up single again. If like you your partner might also like to seek out another person then you are swingers. However morals dictate that swinging is a taboo and therefore they also must hide behind the headless pics and secret meetings and clubs. Who's really being cheated on here?? Liberalism... sexuality?? Are we all cheating on societies values?! Cause if nobody knows then we won't be judged!! Is a wank cheating Just have sex and enjoy yourself .. " Well said was about to say something similar. Adultery is regarded by our moral standards and our society as something objectionable no matter if there's consent between partners or not, but it seems that it makes some feel better about their doings if they can point their fingers at 'cheaters'. By the end of the day OP it doesn't matter what you call it, it's your decision what your doing, your relationship, your life, your conscience and you have to carry the consequences if there are any. Happy fabbing! | |||
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"We humans as a species are by nature always looking to spread our seed and have our eggs fertilized. Orgasms are designed to feel incredible, so as we'll partake in the activity and keep our species numbers up. It's nature's way. As we became intelligent over the years, we complicated matters.. Morals..values..religion..society.. All designed to protect the gene pools and stop the spread of disease. Today's morals dictates we should be in a relationship have kids and be solely with one person.. Some people live like that and some don't. If you cheat and your partner is not happy then you most likely end up single again. If like you your partner might also like to seek out another person then you are swingers. However morals dictate that swinging is a taboo and therefore they also must hide behind the headless pics and secret meetings and clubs. Who's really being cheated on here?? Liberalism... sexuality?? Are we all cheating on societies values?! Cause if nobody knows then we won't be judged!! Is a wank cheating Just have sex and enjoy yourself .. " | |||
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"We humans as a species are by nature always looking to spread our seed and have our eggs fertilized. Orgasms are designed to feel incredible, so as we'll partake in the activity and keep our species numbers up. It's nature's way. As we became intelligent over the years, we complicated matters.. Morals..values..religion..society.. All designed to protect the gene pools and stop the spread of disease. Today's morals dictates we should be in a relationship have kids and be solely with one person.. Some people live like that and some don't. If you cheat and your partner is not happy then you most likely end up single again. If like you your partner might also like to seek out another person then you are swingers. However morals dictate that swinging is a taboo and therefore they also must hide behind the headless pics and secret meetings and clubs. Who's really being cheated on here?? Liberalism... sexuality?? Are we all cheating on societies values?! Cause if nobody knows then we won't be judged!! Is a wank cheating Just have sex and enjoy yourself .. Only bit of sence made on this thread " I didn't even really understand the opening post. Everyone else seemed to tho Just let people do what they wanna do. If you don't like it - don't join in. simple | |||
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"Adultery is just the defined term no? At it's most basic it is lying to someone you profess to care about, usually because you know that they will leave you. Which makes it selfish. " What defines a 'cheater' is based on the same moral standard and belief that you have to live monogamic. If this weren't the case there wouldn't be any 'cheaters', if we would all believe in sexual freedom nobody would think that you don't care for your partner if you had sex with someone else. | |||
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"We humans as a species are by nature always looking to spread our seed and have our eggs fertilized. Orgasms are designed to feel incredible, so as we'll partake in the activity and keep our species numbers up. It's nature's way. As we became intelligent over the years, we complicated matters.. Morals..values..religion..society.. All designed to protect the gene pools and stop the spread of disease. Today's morals dictates we should be in a relationship have kids and be solely with one person.. Some people live like that and some don't. If you cheat and your partner is not happy then you most likely end up single again. If like you your partner might also like to seek out another person then you are swingers. However morals dictate that swinging is a taboo and therefore they also must hide behind the headless pics and secret meetings and clubs. Who's really being cheated on here?? Liberalism... sexuality?? Are we all cheating on societies values?! Cause if nobody knows then we won't be judged!! Is a wank cheating Just have sex and enjoy yourself .. " Excellent post | |||
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"Only thing i know is i bet the OP wished he never started the bloody thread " Did he even post again after starting this? | |||
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"Adultery is just the defined term no? At it's most basic it is lying to someone you profess to care about, usually because you know that they will leave you. Which makes it selfish. What defines a 'cheater' is based on the same moral standard and belief that you have to live monogamic. If this weren't the case there wouldn't be any 'cheaters', if we would all believe in sexual freedom nobody would think that you don't care for your partner if you had sex with someone else. " I agree. Now what springs to mind is this, maybe monogamy is natural? For humans. We assume we are the most evolved species on the planet, perhaps the respect you give another human when you allow only him/her to share your body is part of our evolution. Very few other animal species share this respect. So the betrayal a partner can feel when 'cheated' on can be all consuming. We don't HAVE to live a life of monogamy, we choose to. We choose to say to someone "I want to share my life with you, my very existence. Become a part of me." *So how do I go from that passage to explaining why I'm on a swinging site.... | |||
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"Adultery is just the defined term no? At it's most basic it is lying to someone you profess to care about, usually because you know that they will leave you. Which makes it selfish. What defines a 'cheater' is based on the same moral standard and belief that you have to live monogamic. If this weren't the case there wouldn't be any 'cheaters', if we would all believe in sexual freedom nobody would think that you don't care for your partner if you had sex with someone else. I agree. Now what springs to mind is this, maybe monogamy is natural? For humans. We assume we are the most evolved species on the planet, perhaps the respect you give another human when you allow only him/her to share your body is part of our evolution. Very few other animal species share this respect. So the betrayal a partner can feel when 'cheated' on can be all consuming. We don't HAVE to live a life of monogamy, we choose to. We choose to say to someone "I want to share my life with you, my very existence. Become a part of me." *So how do I go from that passage to explaining why I'm on a swinging site.... " But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development | |||
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"Adultery is just the defined term no? At it's most basic it is lying to someone you profess to care about, usually because you know that they will leave you. Which makes it selfish. What defines a 'cheater' is based on the same moral standard and belief that you have to live monogamic. If this weren't the case there wouldn't be any 'cheaters', if we would all believe in sexual freedom nobody would think that you don't care for your partner if you had sex with someone else. I agree. Now what springs to mind is this, maybe monogamy is natural? For humans. We assume we are the most evolved species on the planet, perhaps the respect you give another human when you allow only him/her to share your body is part of our evolution. Very few other animal species share this respect. So the betrayal a partner can feel when 'cheated' on can be all consuming. We don't HAVE to live a life of monogamy, we choose to. We choose to say to someone "I want to share my life with you, my very existence. Become a part of me." *So how do I go from that passage to explaining why I'm on a swinging site.... But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development " This is the question CJ, nature or nurture? And you can, as you know, if you agree. | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development " Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge... | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge..." Your fixated on the judge word get over yourself,not one person passed judgement on the op they just gave opinions there is a difference | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge..." Please don't misinterpret what I said when I refer to church I include all churches as we have seen from history their influence on state, it is state that inherently set laws and church that guide morals By which trough no fault of our own we all judge yet we all do, we may not express it but we do it quietly or vocally | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge... Your fixated on the judge word get over yourself,not one person passed judgement on the op they just gave opinions there is a difference " Yes your opinions are clear on cheaters as you call them | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge... Your fixated on the judge word get over yourself,not one person passed judgement on the op they just gave opinions there is a difference Yes your opinions are clear on cheaters as you call them " Who did I call a cheater ? | |||
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" But do we choose to or is this the only option open to us shaped and honed by society, has society over the centuries dictated by church and state that it has become the norm why can people not live a life of exploration and development Church and state I was waiting for that comment... Yet it's those who live the life of sexually exploration are the ones quick to judge... Please don't misinterpret what I said when I refer to church I include all churches as we have seen from history their influence on state, it is state that inherently set laws and church that guide morals By which trough no fault of our own we all judge yet we all do, we may not express it but we do it quietly or vocally " Each other set rules to suit themselves. | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener " Many times in the thread this opinion was expressed. Good night. | |||
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"Popular topic Sure gets that way when people mis interpret opinions " Now that'd never happen on any forum, certainly not this one | |||
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"You need to answer the question yourself you won't get any reassurance or justification here if your cheating. Too many different opinions here on fab, I guess as a cpl were lucky to have found the lifestyle together but in by the book your cheating full stop, either leave Ur wife and water your grass make it greener Many times in the thread this opinion was expressed. Good night. " Once again he asked he got an opinion funny how u omitted where I said we don't care what anyone does.. textbook if your interpret properly what I wrote he's cheating he asked he got replies very simple ..textbook is not my judgement on what anyone does with their life's...Now your responses however are a lame try at ruffling my feathers move on to another person on the thread before you get bored | |||
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"Popular topic Sure gets that way when people mis interpret opinions Now that'd never happen on any forum, certainly not this one " Haha gotta love when people get so serious ...it's fucking swinging wakey wakey ..my fishing rod busy today reeling em in | |||
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"for a man, ud have some pain in your hand if you were in a sexless marriage and faithful! " But an awesome porn collection | |||
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"for a man, ud have some pain in your hand if you were in a sexless marriage and faithful! But an awesome porn collection " need some load a vaseline or ud have a Mickey like sandpaper! | |||
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"Was trying not to get involved but can't help myself. Married, as clearly stated on profile. Had a lot of fun beforehand, basically a manslut(safe), which was all out in the open with wife beforehand. All great sexually before wedding and after, until birth of second child, when her libido died. Actually, not too long after conception. Have tried many things, buying flowers, chocolates, wine, weekend away, etc. Even discussed swinging in cases I wasn't making her happy sexually. When I say that, I was always in the mood but 99% of the time, she isn't, unless some drink involved. When we were having sex, she usually got oral orgasm first and sometimes during sex(just for the curious, details obsessed folks) My sex life consists of approximately 6 possible couplings a year. On those nights, there may be one or two fucks but that's it. We have great kids, house, home life, etc. which I'm not prepared to walk away from.Just putting all this into perspective for some of the ignorant opinions on this thread. I love my wife, I love my kids. I've suggested swinging (stupidly forgot to ask if I could! will try to resurrect that conversation) but she's just not interested in sex, despite my efforts. This has resulted in reducing libido and control for me as a result also. Have to say, some of the frivolous, judgmental shit above pisses me off. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors, so maybe give people a little leeway. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's de facto information! Can't believe I'm saying all this but ye drew it out of me. Sorry for long post but I do seriously hope OP reads it." Have you and your wife ever sought help sexually together as in professional help as I know a cpl in the vanilla world same scenario, they got pro help and low and behold they back on horny train together | |||
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"Popular topic Sure gets that way when people mis interpret opinions Now that'd never happen on any forum, certainly not this one Haha gotta love when people get so serious ...it's fucking swinging wakey wakey ..my fishing rod busy today reeling em in " Pretty much, its all meant to be a bit of craic | |||
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"Was trying not to get involved but can't help myself. Married, as clearly stated on profile. Had a lot of fun beforehand, basically a manslut(safe), which was all out in the open with wife beforehand. All great sexually before wedding and after, until birth of second child, when her libido died. Actually, not too long after conception. Have tried many things, buying flowers, chocolates, wine, weekend away, etc. Even discussed swinging in cases I wasn't making her happy sexually. When I say that, I was always in the mood but 99% of the time, she isn't, unless some drink involved. When we were having sex, she usually got oral orgasm first and sometimes during sex(just for the curious, details obsessed folks) My sex life consists of approximately 6 possible couplings a year. On those nights, there may be one or two fucks but that's it. We have great kids, house, home life, etc. which I'm not prepared to walk away from.Just putting all this into perspective for some of the ignorant opinions on this thread. I love my wife, I love my kids. I've suggested swinging (stupidly forgot to ask if I could! will try to resurrect that conversation) but she's just not interested in sex, despite my efforts. This has resulted in reducing libido and control for me as a result also. Have to say, some of the frivolous, judgmental shit above pisses me off. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors, so maybe give people a little leeway. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's de facto information! Can't believe I'm saying all this but ye drew it out of me. Sorry for long post but I do seriously hope OP reads it. Have you and your wife ever sought help sexually together as in professional help as I know a cpl in the vanilla world same scenario, they got pro help and low and behold they back on horny train together " Yes, we've discussed it but she's never made the leap to actually getting some. I've tried booking but always the wrong time, much like other things. | |||
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"Was trying not to get involved but can't help myself. Married, as clearly stated on profile. Had a lot of fun beforehand, basically a manslut(safe), which was all out in the open with wife beforehand. All great sexually before wedding and after, until birth of second child, when her libido died. Actually, not too long after conception. Have tried many things, buying flowers, chocolates, wine, weekend away, etc. Even discussed swinging in cases I wasn't making her happy sexually. When I say that, I was always in the mood but 99% of the time, she isn't, unless some drink involved. When we were having sex, she usually got oral orgasm first and sometimes during sex(just for the curious, details obsessed folks) My sex life consists of approximately 6 possible couplings a year. On those nights, there may be one or two fucks but that's it. We have great kids, house, home life, etc. which I'm not prepared to walk away from.Just putting all this into perspective for some of the ignorant opinions on this thread. I love my wife, I love my kids. I've suggested swinging (stupidly forgot to ask if I could! will try to resurrect that conversation) but she's just not interested in sex, despite my efforts. This has resulted in reducing libido and control for me as a result also. Have to say, some of the frivolous, judgmental shit above pisses me off. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors, so maybe give people a little leeway. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's de facto information! Can't believe I'm saying all this but ye drew it out of me. Sorry for long post but I do seriously hope OP reads it. Have you and your wife ever sought help sexually together as in professional help as I know a cpl in the vanilla world same scenario, they got pro help and low and behold they back on horny train together Yes, we've discussed it but she's never made the leap to actually getting some. I've tried booking but always the wrong time, much like other things." I should clarify, booking for both of us to go. I've already tried the date night thing, before anyone asks. | |||
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"Was trying not to get involved but can't help myself. Married, as clearly stated on profile. Had a lot of fun beforehand, basically a manslut(safe), which was all out in the open with wife beforehand. All great sexually before wedding and after, until birth of second child, when her libido died. Actually, not too long after conception. Have tried many things, buying flowers, chocolates, wine, weekend away, etc. Even discussed swinging in cases I wasn't making her happy sexually. When I say that, I was always in the mood but 99% of the time, she isn't, unless some drink involved. When we were having sex, she usually got oral orgasm first and sometimes during sex(just for the curious, details obsessed folks) My sex life consists of approximately 6 possible couplings a year. On those nights, there may be one or two fucks but that's it. We have great kids, house, home life, etc. which I'm not prepared to walk away from.Just putting all this into perspective for some of the ignorant opinions on this thread. I love my wife, I love my kids. I've suggested swinging (stupidly forgot to ask if I could! will try to resurrect that conversation) but she's just not interested in sex, despite my efforts. This has resulted in reducing libido and control for me as a result also. Have to say, some of the frivolous, judgmental shit above pisses me off. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors, so maybe give people a little leeway. Just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's de facto information! Can't believe I'm saying all this but ye drew it out of me. Sorry for long post but I do seriously hope OP reads it. Have you and your wife ever sought help sexually together as in professional help as I know a cpl in the vanilla world same scenario, they got pro help and low and behold they back on horny train together Yes, we've discussed it but she's never made the leap to actually getting some. I've tried booking but always the wrong time, much like other things." Maybe book it and tie it in with a weekend away some place be surprised the change it can make to a woman I've seen it first hand and good luck with your approach in asking her can you swing alone I admire that suggestion and we've often had the "if one of us lost our sex drive" convos would we give the other the blessing to swing | |||
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"Cheers Jack/Jilly. I appreciate your positive attitude/response. Might try that soon, after school holidays" From meeting you in person I could see that you are a really decent and lovely man. Your post above was perfect about guys who are in that situation. But you are one of the good ones and I sincerely hope that it all works out. She is a lucky woman to have you | |||
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"Cheers Jack/Jilly. I appreciate your positive attitude/response. Might try that soon, after school holidays From meeting you in person I could see that you are a really decent and lovely man. Your post above was perfect about guys who are in that situation. But you are one of the good ones and I sincerely hope that it all works out. She is a lucky woman to have you " Thanks mate. Seriously appreciate that | |||
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"But let's be honest if you really loved someone as part of a couple you don't sleep around. Even if it is with you're partners consent.That's just my opinion." Thats a stupid comment.... | |||
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"Here's one for you all..... Sexless marriage is it a form of Cheating." Based on reading the differing opinions above, the hot topic that this always is on here and the fact that the op did not engage beyond the opening post...this is one of two things. A) a trick question or B) a set up designed to cause heated debate. Technically a sexless marriage is sexless therefore not cheating just sexless. Op define cheating for us and answer your own question. | |||
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"Here's one for you all..... Sexless marriage is it a form of Cheating. Based on reading the differing opinions above, the hot topic that this always is on here and the fact that the op did not engage beyond the opening post...this is one of two things. A) a trick question or B) a set up designed to cause heated debate. Technically a sexless marriage is sexless therefore not cheating just sexless. Op define cheating for us and answer your own question." Check the green arrow, he rarely joins in after the initial question | |||
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"Here's one for you all..... Sexless marriage is it a form of Cheating. Based on reading the differing opinions above, the hot topic that this always is on here and the fact that the op did not engage beyond the opening post...this is one of two things. A) a trick question or B) a set up designed to cause heated debate. Technically a sexless marriage is sexless therefore not cheating just sexless. Op define cheating for us and answer your own question. Check the green arrow, he rarely joins in after the initial question" Thanks LC | |||
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"Here's one for you all..... Sexless marriage is it a form of Cheating. Based on reading the differing opinions above, the hot topic that this always is on here and the fact that the op did not engage beyond the opening post...this is one of two things. A) a trick question or B) a set up designed to cause heated debate. Technically a sexless marriage is sexless therefore not cheating just sexless. Op define cheating for us and answer your own question. Check the green arrow, he rarely joins in after the initial question Thanks LC " | |||
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"Cheating doesn't actually have to be physical, in the modern era sexting swapping photos or videos, caming can all potentially cause undue pain on a partner if they find out. " he spot on | |||
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"If you are in a sexless relationship or marriage,then sit down with your partner and talk about the problem. Find a solution that is good for both of you or else get out of the relationship/marriage before going off with someone else for a roll in the hay." | |||
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"WOW...... Must say I am shocked firstly with the amount of replies. So a big thanks to all who did. It's hard to responed to all but the overall conclusion I can get from everyone is that.........I am wrong to be on here and some sort of low life if i actually fulfil my thoughts. That's fair enough, I did ask the Question so I can not give out about the Answers. What I will say is that everything is not black or white. I am no Saint but neither is any of ous. A lot of people on here decided in their own heads that I will do wrong if i continue along these lines. Because they have made a decision about me with out even knowing me or my wife. I am not saying you are wrong to do that but it also on the other hand dose not mean you are right. I post the Question to see if we are still open to people who are .......Open. " Why did you ask the question to begin with ? If you don't believe it's cheating that's your prerogative. With respect no one said you shouldn't be on here or that your a lowlife people gave you opinions on the question you put on the thread. Your response a bit more in depth than your original post and your right nothing in life is black or white and only you can decide your next move ..best of luck | |||
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