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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee." I'm very much inclined to agree, it certainly would'nt be our attitude meeting a single male. | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee." Exactly how I'd feel too. I don't like to meet couples for that reason. I'm not there to service them.. or be the entertainment.. if all three are on equal ground and mutual respect then, I'm happy to play.. | |||
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"Nice piece guys but I'm afraid it's going to be completely misunderstood by 70% of any readers." If it is misunderstood by most it's badly written. | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee. I'm very much inclined to agree, it certainly would'nt be our attitude meeting a single male. " I tend to agree that it's tad one sided I like to enjoy both people's company although not any way bi I am there for my enjoyment of the experience as much as theirs | |||
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"Nice piece guys but I'm afraid it's going to be completely misunderstood by 70% of any readers. If it is misunderstood by most it's badly written. " One word in your sentence describes it perfectly DH.... And I completely understand your position on this. | |||
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"I mean god forbid the single guy should get anything out of the experience ....." You come to see me i will make sure you get plenty out of me mmmm | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee." I don't think we can judge this as a whole piece. It isn't giving the single guys side because it's not designed to. It's not comprehensive and we should take that into account as we read it. While there are couples who treat their meets like servants or sex slaves, the same can be said about single ladies and there are lots of threads where single guys find it offensive. And we all know guys in real life who do the same. These are all generalities of course. Obviously not every one is like that but nuance is boring. I have been in conversations on kik where guys are referred to as cocks. "Such a such woman and her cock are going to be there so I'm not going to that party." Or on profiles "I only want VWE bulls" or by text "he only had 5 inches you couldn't be arsed with that although he gave good head" I have spoken face to face with women who grade sexual performance like the guy is a prized horse. There is an inequality on here. And as we all know,it is because of supply and demand. There is a general lack of respect for the majority of single guys. If you want equality, they shouldn't have to pay more at events. They shouldn't be treated like prizes or trophies. They are more than cocks or performance just like women are more than 3 holes and a pair of tits But we all have the right to be choosey and apply what ever standards we want. That's the ultimate equality. If a single guy feels like he is being treated with disrespect, he can always move on and find a different couple or lady | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. " Is it their first MMF? It's not an easy decision to have the first one and they might be getting cold feet. Despite them really wanting to have this experience, they might need more time to gain confidence that they are ready for it and you're the right guy for them. I wouldn't expect or tolerate such behaviour from someone who already been through MMFs though. | |||
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"Compability would be the big thing for me Good read..." Hence the little meets first to establish this. | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. " there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you" This couple had met males before. Not fear at all. Just lame excuses and getting a kick out of messing me around I suggested a social coffee/bit to eat meet,and said they just wanted to meet and get to the action instead. I said ok no problem,and thats when "they" started messing me about. Now if a bloke does that all the couples here are quick to slate him. But somehow it seems that we must show a couple some "sympathy" when they do it. Sorry but not in my book. | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you" In all honesty, it sounds more as if he's being jerked around. | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee. I don't think we can judge this as a whole piece. It isn't giving the single guys side because it's not designed to. It's not comprehensive and we should take that into account as we read it. While there are couples who treat their meets like servants or sex slaves, the same can be said about single ladies and there are lots of threads where single guys find it offensive. And we all know guys in real life who do the same. These are all generalities of course. Obviously not every one is like that but nuance is boring. I have been in conversations on kik where guys are referred to as cocks. "Such a such woman and her cock are going to be there so I'm not going to that party." Or on profiles "I only want VWE bulls" or by text "he only had 5 inches you couldn't be arsed with that although he gave good head" I have spoken face to face with women who grade sexual performance like the guy is a prized horse. There is an inequality on here. And as we all know,it is because of supply and demand. There is a general lack of respect for the majority of single guys. If you want equality, they shouldn't have to pay more at events. They shouldn't be treated like prizes or trophies. They are more than cocks or performance just like women are more than 3 holes and a pair of tits But we all have the right to be choosey and apply what ever standards we want. That's the ultimate equality. If a single guy feels like he is being treated with disrespect, he can always move on and find a different couple or lady" I can only judge what's there and I guess shelicious put it out there for discussion. The second part displays an arrogance I don't agree with and it most likely would still be there if the single guys side had been described too. As for derogatory language, reducing each other to our sexual organs, ranking and comparing etc. I guess you can say here the one without sin casts the first stone. There's a difference though between talk and carrying such as an attitude into a meet. | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you In all honesty, it sounds more as if he's being jerked around." without a doubt, especially after the last update. As I was reading the original post he made I found myself in the couples shoes and lots of my own fears and fears my wife has expressed popped into my head. I guess I gotta dial the empathy back a bit today | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee. I don't think we can judge this as a whole piece. It isn't giving the single guys side because it's not designed to. It's not comprehensive and we should take that into account as we read it. While there are couples who treat their meets like servants or sex slaves, the same can be said about single ladies and there are lots of threads where single guys find it offensive. And we all know guys in real life who do the same. These are all generalities of course. Obviously not every one is like that but nuance is boring. I have been in conversations on kik where guys are referred to as cocks. "Such a such woman and her cock are going to be there so I'm not going to that party." Or on profiles "I only want VWE bulls" or by text "he only had 5 inches you couldn't be arsed with that although he gave good head" I have spoken face to face with women who grade sexual performance like the guy is a prized horse. There is an inequality on here. And as we all know,it is because of supply and demand. There is a general lack of respect for the majority of single guys. If you want equality, they shouldn't have to pay more at events. They shouldn't be treated like prizes or trophies. They are more than cocks or performance just like women are more than 3 holes and a pair of tits But we all have the right to be choosey and apply what ever standards we want. That's the ultimate equality. If a single guy feels like he is being treated with disrespect, he can always move on and find a different couple or lady I can only judge what's there and I guess shelicious put it out there for discussion. The second part displays an arrogance I don't agree with and it most likely would still be there if the single guys side had been described too. As for derogatory language, reducing each other to our sexual organs, ranking and comparing etc. I guess you can say here the one without sin casts the first stone. There's a difference though between talk and carrying such as an attitude into a meet. " I wasn't casting any stones in anyone's direction DH. I was merely trying to find a slice of balance. I will read the second part again and see what I missed because as a part of a couple on here its an obvious blind spot for me. There is always more to learn. We are bad swingers. We don't meet often and we are neurotic about who we become friends with (I am neurotic is probably more correct) but every meet we have had has been all about equality and respect. | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you This couple had met males before. Not fear at all. Just lame excuses and getting a kick out of messing me around I suggested a social coffee/bit to eat meet,and said they just wanted to meet and get to the action instead. I said ok no problem,and thats when "they" started messing me about. Now if a bloke does that all the couples here are quick to slate him. But somehow it seems that we must show a couple some "sympathy" when they do it. Sorry but not in my book. " you have the right to block anyone you want for any reason you want. I don't know if people want you to show sympathy for the couple but we should certainly try to find empathy for everyone on here. As I said, you were probably being messed around. I don't understand why they would but I don't understand a lot of things. Lastly you should remember that if a few couples identify with the couple it doesn't mean that ALL couples were on the other side. There is no grand conspiracy dude. You are not being persecuted | |||
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"It's all very well giving advice to single guys etc but people expect them to be mind readers, turn up and perform without giving any idea of what the female likes! So a guy turns up and has to second guess what to try! Getting a message "Hi, we're in Ck on Shannon looking for fun" and then being expected to just turn up is a bit much. Without communication beforehand about likes/dislikes, boundaries, etc a guy is just "expected to know" and then if meet goes sideways it's his fault.... Some messages at 2.00 a.m. looking to meet there and then aren't much use and then when you say you've had a few beers and not driving they get stroppy. Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! " Communication is key | |||
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" Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! " "ride me sideways" was another one.. | |||
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"It's all very well giving advice to single guys etc but people expect them to be mind readers, turn up and perform without giving any idea of what the female likes! So a guy turns up and has to second guess what to try! Getting a message "Hi, we're in Ck on Shannon looking for fun" and then being expected to just turn up is a bit much. Without communication beforehand about likes/dislikes, boundaries, etc a guy is just "expected to know" and then if meet goes sideways it's his fault.... Some messages at 2.00 a.m. looking to meet there and then aren't much use and then when you say you've had a few beers and not driving they get stroppy. Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! " In fairness, if you're going to engage with couples who have a "dial-a-cock" mentality, what do you expect? | |||
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"It's all very well giving advice to single guys etc but people expect them to be mind readers, turn up and perform without giving any idea of what the female likes! So a guy turns up and has to second guess what to try! Getting a message "Hi, we're in Ck on Shannon looking for fun" and then being expected to just turn up is a bit much. Without communication beforehand about likes/dislikes, boundaries, etc a guy is just "expected to know" and then if meet goes sideways it's his fault.... Some messages at 2.00 a.m. looking to meet there and then aren't much use and then when you say you've had a few beers and not driving they get stroppy. Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! In fairness, if you're going to engage with couples who have a "dial-a-cock" mentality, what do you expect?" . Not much!! | |||
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" Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! "ride me sideways" was another one.. " . Only if communicated!! | |||
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" It's a bit one sided in my opinion. There is very little respect for the single man and his role is obviously a sex servant. Now I guess the same could be applied to a fmf and a single woman joining a couple. If I were treated with that attitude you can be sure I'd not even consider meeting the couple for a coffee." | |||
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" Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! "ride me sideways" was another one.. " Hmm interesting, I've to try that position... | |||
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" Lack of communication between all parties are main reason for meets going sideways!! "ride me sideways" was another one.. Hmm interesting, I've to try that position... " . and if there's a pillow handy you can fall asleep at same time!! | |||
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"I actually blocked 1 couple this morning,because i got fed up with the lame excuses and mails from them. After about 10 mails they asked me to meet them. Said yes great. Asked to put a plan of action in place. And then all the messing starts with them. Meeeting,then we aint,then excuses. Then meeting again,then we aint,then more excuses. Then wanting to exchange more pictures. Meeting then another lame excuse. Im sorry but some people really need to grow up and cop on here on this forum. there is often fear involved in bringing someone new into your bedroom. Fear that this new person might be better than me, or fear that the partner might like the new guy more or what about general fear of big strong guy who you don't know being intimate with you. You could be 100% right to block them and it's your right. I'm not judging you or them. I'm just saying that there is pressure inside a couple that often doesn't get expressed to you This couple had met males before. Not fear at all. Just lame excuses and getting a kick out of messing me around I suggested a social coffee/bit to eat meet,and said they just wanted to meet and get to the action instead. I said ok no problem,and thats when "they" started messing me about. Now if a bloke does that all the couples here are quick to slate him. But somehow it seems that we must show a couple some "sympathy" when they do it. Sorry but not in my book. you have the right to block anyone you want for any reason you want. I don't know if people want you to show sympathy for the couple but we should certainly try to find empathy for everyone on here. As I said, you were probably being messed around. I don't understand why they would but I don't understand a lot of things. Lastly you should remember that if a few couples identify with the couple it doesn't mean that ALL couples were on the other side. There is no grand conspiracy dude. You are not being persecuted " Whats with the rolley eyes? Never said that,did i? What im saying is that it goes both ways. Theres couples out there who mess men about for the fun of it. But the focus allways seems to be on the single males. I dont have any sympathy or empathy for anyone who purposely messes other people around. Be they male,female or couple. | |||
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"To be fair it happens. Couple objectify the single guy as walking dildo but to fair a lot of people view others as walking sex toys. Single men, single women couples are guilty of it. Just a case of finding the ones that ain't doing this." I think that is why it takes considerably long for people to find the right partners in crime here. | |||
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"To be fair it happens. Couple objectify the single guy as walking dildo but to fair a lot of people view others as walking sex toys. Single men, single women couples are guilty of it. Just a case of finding the ones that ain't doing this. I think that is why it takes considerably long for people to find the right partners in crime here. " | |||
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"OmG We had only the intend to post some informative stuff, not to trigger an avalanche of dispute...but then again , if dispute leads to consense of some degree, it fitted the purpose too " Unfortunately when something is posted ul never have all agree. | |||
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"OmG We had only the intend to post some informative stuff, not to trigger an avalanche of dispute...but then again , if dispute leads to consense of some degree, it fitted the purpose too " Isn't that what the forum is for, to discuss, exchange opinions, highlight another point of view, disagree and agree. Well achieved and interesting to read. | |||
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"OmG We had only the intend to post some informative stuff, not to trigger an avalanche of dispute...but then again , if dispute leads to consense of some degree, it fitted the purpose too " I don't think it fell into dispute more a challenge of opinions which we need to influence our own opinions Let's not forget opinions are formed and moulded and can change with more information. if u become rigid in ur opinion and refuse to see others then u are looking at a brick wall rather than looking over it to learn how others do it But that's just my opinion | |||
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"OmG We had only the intend to post some informative stuff, not to trigger an avalanche of dispute...but then again , if dispute leads to consense of some degree, it fitted the purpose too Unfortunately when something is posted ul never have all agree." I disagree lolol | |||
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"Single males don’t get to set any expectations with a couple. Wow! " as single person I can understand both view points of this... but isn't it a couple inviting and.opening up there relationship to others to join and enhance rather than a single person inviting a couple to join and enhance there's... I believe the best experiences are ones of all mutual understanding of what each other desires that only comes by communication respect and attraction... people shouldn't make assumptions as always been the mother of all fuck ups. Happy Fabbing | |||
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"Single males don’t get to set any expectations with a couple. Wow! as single person I can understand both view points of this... but isn't it a couple inviting and.opening up there relationship to others to join and enhance rather than a single person inviting a couple to join and enhance there's... I believe the best experiences are ones of all mutual understanding of what each other desires that only comes by communication respect and attraction... people shouldn't make assumptions as always been the mother of all fuck ups. Happy Fabbing " this! | |||
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"Single males don’t get to set any expectations with a couple. Wow! as single person I can understand both view points of this... but isn't it a couple inviting and.opening up there relationship to others to join and enhance rather than a single person inviting a couple to join and enhance there's... I believe the best experiences are ones of all mutual understanding of what each other desires that only comes by communication respect and attraction... people shouldn't make assumptions as always been the mother of all fuck ups. Happy Fabbing " Emphasis on the word mutual | |||
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