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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts." so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? | |||
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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts.so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? " No it's actually very mind provoking read. I read the Irish article then the UK one. | |||
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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts.so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? No it's actually very mind provoking read. I read the Irish article then the UK one. " is this where he pleaded guilty but the judge agreed she looked over 16 ???and the judge was a woman. It's blooming disgraceful this was a minor but the assault happened even not taking the age into effect and he walks away the mind boggles.  | |||
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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts.so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? No it's actually very mind provoking read. I read the Irish article then the UK one. is this where he pleaded guilty but the judge agreed she looked over 16 ???and the judge was a woman. It's blooming disgraceful this was a minor but the assault happened even not taking the age into effect and he walks away the mind boggles. "I think it's a bit more complex than that. The issue of deliberate deceit on her part comes into it and the issue of whether that that deceit could be believed also. Also it poses the question is a minors actions if carried out to put another at legal peril above legal responsibility. | |||
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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts.so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? No it's actually very mind provoking read. I read the Irish article then the UK one. is this where he pleaded guilty but the judge agreed she looked over 16 ???and the judge was a woman. It's blooming disgraceful this was a minor but the assault happened even not taking the age into effect and he walks away the mind boggles. "Haven't seen or read it, but still assault and underage. Wouldnt be the first time this sort of thing happened and people with the right type of power, get off Scot free.  | |||
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"12yr olds don't look 18 I'm sorry " I agree 12 yr old don't look older than 17 or 18. I read the case in the UK, but still sex took place under the age of consent. In this case he's totally wrong for letting sexual contact take place...not even mentioning if he did sexually assault her... | |||
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"12yr olds don't look 18 I'm sorry " Some do!! I have a 11 years old daughter almost as tall as me and she does look much older, mentally she is mistaken by 15-16years old, even teachers always said to me she pretty ahead and mature. Could Op share link please | |||
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"12yr olds don't look 18 I'm sorry Some do!! I have a 11 years old daughter almost as tall as me and she does look much older, mentally she is mistaken by 15-16years old, even teachers always said to me she pretty ahead and mature. Could Op share link please " I would say just google it. I've read a few articles on it in UK and Independent one here. | |||
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"Where were her parents? Why was she allowed travel into Edinburgh with her friend who was 13. Why were they sold vodka? Why was she at a taxi rank at 4 in the morning? If there were people passing her by not realising she was 12 years old, id say she blended in with whats considered normal attire for young girls these days. Nobody stopped to ask her what she was doing there at that time of night. If that young lad was on a night out and drank alcohol, then how was he to know her age either? "I wondered all this too but where does the responsibility lie is question I just find hard to understand. She is considered a minor but was giving impression was older maybe on purpose. | |||
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"Where were her parents? Why was she allowed travel into Edinburgh with her friend who was 13. Why were they sold vodka? Why was she at a taxi rank at 4 in the morning? If there were people passing her by not realising she was 12 years old, id say she blended in with whats considered normal attire for young girls these days. Nobody stopped to ask her what she was doing there at that time of night. If that young lad was on a night out and drank alcohol, then how was he to know her age either?
I wondered all this too but where does the responsibility lie is question I just find hard to understand. She is considered a minor but was giving impression was older maybe on purpose."The responsibility lies with her parents for allowing her into that position in the first place. Im not surprised the judge ruled it an exceptional case when all these factors were against the young girl. Shes a minor and her parents should have been more vigilant with her whereabouts. Theres no excuse nowadays for checking up on kids when theyre not home. | |||
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"12yr olds don't look 18 I'm sorry " Age of consent is 16 in Scotland she said she's 16 to the guy. Some 12 year old easily look 16. | |||
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"Where were her parents? Why was she allowed travel into Edinburgh with her friend who was 13. Why were they sold vodka? Why was she at a taxi rank at 4 in the morning? If there were people passing her by not realising she was 12 years old, id say she blended in with whats considered normal attire for young girls these days. Nobody stopped to ask her what she was doing there at that time of night. If that young lad was on a night out and drank alcohol, then how was he to know her age either? "Firstly I haven't read the article but..... Wtf was a 12 yr old doing out at 4am??? 
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her.... "She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect. "Sorry but we've all done stupid things when we were younger. Like saying I'm staying in so and so house but in reality you're in a field drinking. Or similar circumstances. We don't know the details of where she said she was or what her parents were doing etc so I don't think they can be held accountable. She purposely lied about her age and now this man is paying the consequences for her actions. Shops and pubs should be held accountable for selling her alcohol (if they actually did) without ID though. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect.
Sorry but we've all done stupid things when we were younger. Like saying I'm staying in so and so house but in reality you're in a field drinking. Or similar circumstances.
We don't know the details of where she said she was or what her parents were doing etc so I don't think they can be held accountable.
She purposely lied about her age and now this man is paying the consequences for her actions.
Shops and pubs should be held accountable for selling her alcohol (if they actually did) without ID though. "Her parents are accountable. Shes a minor for heavens sake! And whats wrong with phoning other parents to check and make sure shes staying the night if shes staying in a friends house? A 2 minute phone call would put that to rest. Kids and teens will chance their arm more nowadays than years ago. Parents should up their game and stay one step ahead to protect theur kids instead of potentially putting them in harms way.Thats what happened here and theres absolutely no excuse for it. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect.
Sorry but we've all done stupid things when we were younger. Like saying I'm staying in so and so house but in reality you're in a field drinking. Or similar circumstances.
We don't know the details of where she said she was or what her parents were doing etc so I don't think they can be held accountable.
She purposely lied about her age and now this man is paying the consequences for her actions.
Shops and pubs should be held accountable for selling her alcohol (if they actually did) without ID though.
Her parents are accountable. Shes a minor for heavens sake! And whats wrong with phoning other parents to check and make sure shes staying the night if shes staying in a friends house? A 2 minute phone call would put that to rest. Kids and teens will chance their arm more nowadays than years ago. Parents should up their game and stay one step ahead to protect theur kids instead of potentially putting them in harms way.Thats what happened here and theres absolutely no excuse for it. "her parents are accountable for where she is maybe this time her parents took her word she staying at a friends house and vice a versa....we don't know the inns and out of her parents actions on the night in question. I would like to think they did have there daughters best interests at heart until I know more in my opinion you can't blame the parents.... im sure the outcome they did not forsee... | |||
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"I just read article in prominent Irish newspaper where man was released released from a charge of apparently raping a 12 year old in the UK who claimed and was said to look older. It once again brings the old subject of political correctness v the harsh so called reality of life to my mind. I often struggle morally between the two. If anyone else has read this any thoughts.so basically the case was dismissed cause the said girl looked older ?????? " I think it's a bit more complex than that... | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her.... "Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up. Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
"You've a real hard on for any feminist movements mate. The onus has always been on proving that consent was not given. In this case I'm sure there was some suspicion that this girl was too young for the accused. Nobody is going to be asked that to prove there was consent. Slightly hyperbolic statement from you there. I stay away from any grey area. Don't try to fuck girls when they're d*unk etc. I don't really think we're entering an arena where we have a plethora of innocent men accused of assaults going down just to sate feminist lobbies. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
You've a real hard on for any feminist movements mate. The onus has always been on proving that consent was not given. In this case I'm sure there was some suspicion that this girl was too young for the accused. Nobody is going to be asked that to prove there was consent. Slightly hyperbolic statement from you there.
I stay away from any grey area. Don't try to fuck girls when they're d*unk etc. I don't really think we're entering an arena where we have a plethora of innocent men accused of assaults going down just to sate feminist lobbies. "I know I know but that's what may happen if these consent definition discussion go the wrong way. No relation to the case, I find it hard to believe he hadn't even a seed of doubt as to her age... 12 years old come on! | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
You've a real hard on for any feminist movements mate. The onus has always been on proving that consent was not given. In this case I'm sure there was some suspicion that this girl was too young for the accused. Nobody is going to be asked that to prove there was consent. Slightly hyperbolic statement from you there.
I stay away from any grey area. Don't try to fuck girls when they're d*unk etc. I don't really think we're entering an arena where we have a plethora of innocent men accused of assaults going down just to sate feminist lobbies.
I know I know but that's what may happen if these consent definition discussion go the wrong way.
No relation to the case, I find it hard to believe he hadn't even a seed of doubt as to her age... 12 years old come on! "This is from the ruling: The fact that all the witnesses that night were of the opinion that the victim was older than 16 years – with impressions ranging between 17 to 20 years of age given. In particular the assessment of the police officers who had no concerns about the victim’s age, in the context of having spoken to her at some length and at a time when they specifically looking for youths who were too young to be out and about in the streets. For what it is worth my impression from viewing the victim on the CCTV footage on assessment by appearance that the victim was over 16 years of age would be a reasonable one. The context of meeting the victim in the taxi queue at 4am, after she had purchased and drank alcohol and whilst socialising with other older teenagers. The fact you were told she was 16 years old. Her willingness to go to the flat to party and when she got there to engage in consensual sexual activity with you, in which she was an active participant. The absence of any suggestion the victim was distressed or concerned at any time. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
You've a real hard on for any feminist movements mate. The onus has always been on proving that consent was not given. In this case I'm sure there was some suspicion that this girl was too young for the accused. Nobody is going to be asked that to prove there was consent. Slightly hyperbolic statement from you there.
I stay away from any grey area. Don't try to fuck girls when they're d*unk etc. I don't really think we're entering an arena where we have a plethora of innocent men accused of assaults going down just to sate feminist lobbies. "Jesus Flash Feminism? Again? | |||
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Consent definition is a big thing for feminist groups. It's something we need to thread carefully on to get right. | |||
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"Why do you care yosser? Either make a contribution to the discussion or not .
Consent definition is a big thing for feminist groups. It's something we need to thread carefully on to get right. "Jesus Flash, what you're raising isn't relevant to the case nor are feminist groups. Read the judges ruling. In her own words it was an exceptional decision. Give the dog some peace. | |||
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"Why do you care yosser? Either make a contribution to the discussion or not .
Consent definition is a big thing for feminist groups. It's something we need to thread carefully on to get right.
Jesus Flash, what you're raising isn't relevant to the case nor are feminist groups. Read the judges ruling. In her own words it was an exceptional decision. Give the dog some peace.
"I know but the intricacies of consent are pointed out with this case and hence so is my point. It's very hard to have an all encompassing definition of consent that covers all scenarios in a reasonable way. You all just shit your pants a little when you hear the f word | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
Without getting into the specific case this where all the feminazi "we must talk about consent" stuff is going.... The onus will be on the guy to prove consent in false accusation cases. Feminists are of the belief that innocent people are fair collateral damage in the effort to get conviction rates up.
Call me old-school but I believe in the legal principle of innocent until proven guilty
Are you seriously using this to have another rant about feminism???
Wow. Just. Wow. "Are you seriously saying "wow. Just. Wow" with a straight face :p It's all linked if you'd ever get off your high horse | |||
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"Flash...where is all this feminism shite coming from? Nearly all your posts mention it one way or another. As far as I know (but correct me if I'm wrong....I'm only a mere woman at the end of the day) feminism is defined by equal rights and opportunities for both sexes. It doesn't have a bearing on a lot of the things you bring up" It is but we all know well that what's said is one thing and what is meant is another. It's all coming from the states and has infected our media since we've started adopting American culture much faster than before. My own motivation for pointing out its pitfalls come from the absolute shock of meeting as girl who was 1 million percent convinced that 25% of men are rapists by various feminist media sources. Before that I couldn't care less. In her world view, this was as undeniable a fact as creationism is to hicks in the bible belt. | |||
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"Flash...where is all this feminism shite coming from? Nearly all your posts mention it one way or another. As far as I know (but correct me if I'm wrong....I'm only a mere woman at the end of the day) feminism is defined by equal rights and opportunities for both sexes. It doesn't have a bearing on a lot of the things you bring up It is but we all know well that what's said is one thing and what is meant is another. It's all coming from the states and has infected our media since we've started adopting American culture much faster than before. My own motivation for pointing out its pitfalls come from the absolute shock of meeting as girl who was 1 million percent convinced that 25% of men are rapists by various feminist media sources. Before that I couldn't care less. In her world view, this was as undeniable a fact as creationism is to hicks in the bible belt. " So one person has sent you on a crusade
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"Thanks Flash I'll stay on my high horse. I love a good riding. " I think you will be safe up there. I have a sneaky suspicion he doesn't like women. Budge up hun. I need to join you. As Rolf Harris would say ....oh no that's two little boys lol. | |||
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" My own motivation for pointing out its pitfalls come from the absolute shock of meeting as girl who was 1 million percent convinced that 25% of men are rapists by various feminist media sources. Before that I couldn't care less. In her world view, this was as undeniable a fact as creationism is to hicks in the bible belt. " She has obviously been misinformed by what she has read/heard and is in the minority. Classing all feminists the same way is akin to branding all Muslims as terrorists/all priests as kiddy fiddlers/all ginger haired people as Irish (sounds stupid but you can see what I mean)....stereotyping a group of people on something that the minority are/have done. It's like any walk of life - there's the fanatics that ruin it for others, or the people who believe the sky is green because 'I read it somewhere so it MUST be true) | |||
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"Thanks Flash I'll stay on my high horse. I love a good riding. I think you will be safe up there. I have a sneaky suspicion he doesn't like women. Budge up hun. I need to join you. As Rolf Harris would say ....oh no that's two little boys lol." That's highly illogical... Feminism is for equality for all, therefore I don't like anybody 
You don't have to hate women to question some of the sour elements of a movement that's lost its way.
Anyway like I said you all just shit your pants when you hear the f word.
Not much point trying to explain myself when you just jump the gun and prejudge my opinions or read what you want to hear instead of what is actually being said.
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag "I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot. Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something? | |||
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"Thanks Flash I'll stay on my high horse. I love a good riding. I think you will be safe up there. I have a sneaky suspicion he doesn't like women. Budge up hun. I need to join you. As Rolf Harris would say ....oh no that's two little boys lol. That's highly illogical... Feminism is for equality for all, therefore I don't like anybody
You don't have to hate women to question some of the sour elements of a movement that's lost its way.
Anyway like I said you all just shit your pants when you hear the f word.
Not much point trying to explain myself when you just jump the gun and prejudge my opinions or read what you want to hear instead of what is actually being said.
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"Sorry...I know what I'm trying to say but have difficulty in putting it across *DISCLAIMER* I do not believe all Muslims are terrorists/all priests are kiddy fiddlers and all gingers are Irish. Just using it as an example of misconceptions" Ha ha neither do I. There are some excellent variants of Feminism. But the most are making the most noise Anyway back to the case in hand... Clearly no one gives a shit | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something? "Don't invent things flash. You are getting boring! Shall I repeat a stat? From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes. If you want to create a drama go elsewhere 
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !"If it's boring you that much why comment at all? You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere. | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !"Yeah yeah... How do you get even get those figures? I haven't invested as much time in the forum as you. Whatever the statistics "lol" you still repeatedly make a point of attacking my posts without adding anything substantive to the discussion simply saying bitchey things like "you need to get laid"... It's funny when you haven't the first iota how much or little sex I'm having. It's a public forum for discussion of everything and anything, I'm following the rules and I'm not here to make myself popular or unpopular. My sex life isn't at all contingent on any fab persona or scoring points on the forum which gives me the liberty to act with integrity and speak my mind. So with that in mind why don't you just go about your way and have a nice day | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere."That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
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"Flash...where is all this feminism shite coming from? Nearly all your posts mention it one way or another. As far as I know (but correct me if I'm wrong....I'm only a mere woman at the end of the day) feminism is defined by equal rights and opportunities for both sexes. It doesn't have a bearing on a lot of the things you bring up It is but we all know well that what's said is one thing and what is meant is another. It's all coming from the states and has infected our media since we've started adopting American culture much faster than before. My own motivation for pointing out its pitfalls come from the absolute shock of meeting as girl who was 1 million percent convinced that 25% of men are rapists by various feminist media sources. Before that I couldn't care less. In her world view, this was as undeniable a fact as creationism is to hicks in the bible belt. " Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
Yeah yeah... How do you get even get those figures? I haven't invested as much time in the forum as you.
Whatever the statistics "lol" you still repeatedly make a point of attacking my posts without adding anything substantive to the discussion simply saying bitchey things like "you need to get laid"... It's funny when you haven't the first iota how much or little sex I'm having.
It's a public forum for discussion of everything and anything, I'm following the rules and I'm not here to make myself popular or unpopular. My sex life isn't at all contingent on any fab persona or scoring points on the forum which gives me the liberty to act with integrity and speak my mind.
So with that in mind why don't you just go about your way and have a nice day
"You accuse me of following you around the forums and I have proved otherwise! It's easy to find that info
As for the rest you are right it's a public forum and we can speak our mind, but for a change why not speak about something else ?
You come across as so bloody confrontational and uptight lately.
I actually used to enjoy your contributions but bloody hell it's getting repetitive.
Plough on
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" Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. Candy, I'm calling you directly out on this. Please EXPLAIN how I'm a misogynist... " The tone and frequency of your rants against women. | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
Yeah yeah... How do you get even get those figures? I haven't invested as much time in the forum as you.
Whatever the statistics "lol" you still repeatedly make a point of attacking my posts without adding anything substantive to the discussion simply saying bitchey things like "you need to get laid"... It's funny when you haven't the first iota how much or little sex I'm having.
It's a public forum for discussion of everything and anything, I'm following the rules and I'm not here to make myself popular or unpopular. My sex life isn't at all contingent on any fab persona or scoring points on the forum which gives me the liberty to act with integrity and speak my mind.
So with that in mind why don't you just go about your way and have a nice day
You accuse me of following you around the forums and I have proved otherwise!
It's easy to find that info
As for the rest you are right it's a public forum and we can speak our mind, but for a change why not speak about something else ?
You come across as so bloody confrontational and uptight lately.
I actually used to enjoy your contributions but bloody hell it's getting repetitive.
Plough on
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" Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. Candy, I'm calling you directly out on this. Please EXPLAIN how I'm a misogynist... The tone and frequency of your rants against women." . They are always against Feminism doctrine and never against women. Try again | |||
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" Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. Candy, I'm calling you directly out on this. Please EXPLAIN how I'm a misogynist... The tone and frequency of your rants against women. . They are always against Feminism doctrine and never against women. Try again " No need, you're a misogynist. | |||
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" Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. Candy, I'm calling you directly out on this. Please EXPLAIN how I'm a misogynist... The tone and frequency of your rants against women. . They are always against Feminism doctrine and never against women. Try again No need, you're a misogynist. " Nice theorem QED It's easy to be a 160 character or less annoying smart ass, a bit harder to backup what you are saying | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere.
That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
Well done you
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere.
That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
Well done you
And it's so unlike you to ignore the point raised, instead making a personal remark.
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" Couldn't you have just deduced she is an idiot? Instead of this ridiculous misogynistic crusade. Candy, I'm calling you directly out on this. Please EXPLAIN how I'm a misogynist... The tone and frequency of your rants against women. . They are always against Feminism doctrine and never against women. Try again No need, you're a misogynist. Nice theorem QED It's easy to be a 160 character or less annoying smart ass, a bit harder to backup what you are saying Give me an M... You see this is the problem when someone is.... " 70 posts on a perfectly plausible thread. 39 about your feminism jargon and the responses to it. Total de-rail of the thread. Scarlet for you big man | |||
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"Have to agree with the general consensus here Flash. I'm not a regular visitor to the forums and even I have found your complete abhorrence of feminism a little repetitive, boring and one dimensional. You're entitled to air your views but the sledgehammer treatment is dull. Who are you to say 'here and no further?'. The historic oppression of woman in this country is horrid. You wouldn't be enjoying much of a sex life if it wasn't for feminist movements, birth control etc etc. Yes some extreme feminists may have Uber aggressive views but generally there's still plenty need for feminist movements both here and around the world." Historically of course, amazing things have been achieved. It's not abhorrence, I have huge respect for some aspects of it but I also have abject horror for some the uglier and more vocal elements. In the modern day western world we are in the realm of diminishing returns which carry societal costs. There is still some serious work to be done in other parts of the world. | |||
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect.
Sorry but we've all done stupid things when we were younger. Like saying I'm staying in so and so house but in reality you're in a field drinking. Or similar circumstances.
We don't know the details of where she said she was or what her parents were doing etc so I don't think they can be held accountable.
She purposely lied about her age and now this man is paying the consequences for her actions.
Shops and pubs should be held accountable for selling her alcohol (if they actually did) without ID though.
Her parents are accountable. Shes a minor for heavens sake! And whats wrong with phoning other parents to check and make sure shes staying the night if shes staying in a friends house? A 2 minute phone call would put that to rest. Kids and teens will chance their arm more nowadays than years ago. Parents should up their game and stay one step ahead to protect theur kids instead of potentially putting them in harms way.Thats what happened here and theres absolutely no excuse for it. "This, I agree 100% The child's parent or parents should have been absolutely certain of where their daughter was, and there's no way in hell a child her age should have been out at that time. She clearly knew what she was doing, and was in no way distressed by what happened, which suggests to me it wasn't her first time. Everyone who came into contact with her on the night thought she was much older, the poor unfortunate man was no exception. I think the judge was right in her decision, but I think each case must be looked at individually, and I don't think this decision sets a precedent or makes it easier for someone else to have sex with a minor and get away with it. | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere.
That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
Well done you
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"Where does the law stand where drinking is involved. On a night out you don't ask if you get lucky to pull can I have your consent in writing please just incase... it's her word against his if consent was giving or not.... yes I agree being out at that night at that age where was her parent?? Drinking alcohol going back to a party.. but she claiming she was assaulted.At the end of the day a minor and she still is, is claiming that this happened to her....
She told her sister in case she might be pregnant. Now while i feel so sorry for the young child, cos thats what she is, a child, i cant help but feel utterly pissed at her parents. Doesnt matter if she looked 16, she was 12 and should have been under the watchful eye of her mum and dad in her own bed. Instead she was d*unkenly wandering the streets at that hour of the night. The parents should be prosecuted for neglect.
Sorry but we've all done stupid things when we were younger. Like saying I'm staying in so and so house but in reality you're in a field drinking. Or similar circumstances.
We don't know the details of where she said she was or what her parents were doing etc so I don't think they can be held accountable.
She purposely lied about her age and now this man is paying the consequences for her actions.
Shops and pubs should be held accountable for selling her alcohol (if they actually did) without ID though.
Her parents are accountable. Shes a minor for heavens sake! And whats wrong with phoning other parents to check and make sure shes staying the night if shes staying in a friends house? A 2 minute phone call would put that to rest. Kids and teens will chance their arm more nowadays than years ago. Parents should up their game and stay one step ahead to protect theur kids instead of potentially putting them in harms way.Thats what happened here and theres absolutely no excuse for it.
This, I agree 100%
The child's parent or parents should have been absolutely certain of where their daughter was, and there's no way in hell a child her age should have been out at that time. She clearly knew what she was doing, and was in no way distressed by what happened, which suggests to me it wasn't her first time. Everyone who came into contact with her on the night thought she was much older, the poor unfortunate man was no exception.
I think the judge was right in her decision, but I think each case must be looked at individually, and I don't think this decision sets a precedent or makes it easier for someone else to have sex with a minor and get away with it. "Totally agree....in this case is was the correct outcome | |||
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere.
That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
Well done you
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" So one person has sent you on a crusade
You need to get a shag
I don't know why you are still following me around the forums, making little jibes and weirdly viewing my profile a lot.
Are you trying to score brownie points with your clique or something?
Don't invent things flash.
You are getting boring!
Shall I repeat a stat?
From the last 35 threads you have commented on I have commented on 5, 2 of which are direct quotes.
If you want to create a drama go elsewhere
I think it's fair to say that people are getting quite bored of your feminist vitriol on the forums.
I'm guessing that if a thread is started about toast you will somehow turn it into a new attack on feminism.
I'll say again go get a shag and chill ffs
Over and out !
If it's boring you that much why comment at all?
You are also free to ignore or go elsewhere.
That's alot of words for you to use on the forums it's usually just an auld
Well done you
Snigger
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"Iv seen some girls go out to nite clubs with the mother's and to be to be honest its hard to tell sometimes you would think they we're sisters that Monday you would see the daughter going to school never the less underage thats what it is but deceit has to be looked at" They could still be the age of consent though...you can still be in school uniform when you're 18 and the age of consent is 16 or 17 dependent on where you live. | |||
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