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"Im wanting to go see one, just to make my own mind up, dont think im gona get much but gona try" If you think that theres any truth to this despite every single but of evidence saying there isnt....well Ive got this great bridge for sale,its in Brooklyn, worth about 17 million, Ill let you have it for just 20 thousand! Dont like the idea of real estate? Well my cousins a nigerian prince who's stumbled on $50m and all he needs is a few thousand dollars to get at it. Why doesnt he just use some of the $50m or go to a bank? Because reasons!! Really just pick your favourite scam, prince, bridge or medium and Ill happily spout convincing bullshit at you in return for your money. I could do with some mid week pints!  | |||
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"Im wanting to go see one, just to make my own mind up, dont think im gona get much but gona try If you think that theres any truth to this despite every single but of evidence saying there isnt....well Ive got this great bridge for sale,its in Brooklyn, worth about 17 million, Ill let you have it for just 20 thousand! Dont like the idea of real estate? Well my cousins a nigerian prince who's stumbled on $50m and all he needs is a few thousand dollars to get at it. Why doesnt he just use some of the $50m or go to a bank? Because reasons!! Really just pick your favourite scam, prince, bridge or medium and Ill happily spout convincing bullshit at you in return for your money. I could do with some mid week pints! "calm down im only gona try it the once to find out for myself lol if its bullshit then i wont be back  | |||
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader.. | |||
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"Am not trying to convince anyone but just sharing my experience... I went to a tarot card reader in town and he could tell me what future area of work I was about to go into (hadn't told anyone at all). He also talked about a woman I was keen about at then, who hadn't said to anyone. Asked him to be more specific and describe her more... He did "brown hair, hazel deep set eyes, highly educated and tall" describing her to a tee
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader.. "something similar happend to me wen i talked a person i didnt know in a shop no wer near wer i live she told me a few things that was going on in my life and she was 100% in everything she said, didnt know me i didnt know her, told me i was going to have chest problems soon, a week later full blown chest infection and strong antibioyics | |||
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"Am not trying to convince anyone but just sharing my experience... I went to a tarot card reader in town and he could tell me what future area of work I was about to go into (hadn't told anyone at all). He also talked about a woman I was keen about at then, who hadn't said to anyone. Asked him to be more specific and describe her more... He did "brown hair, hazel deep set eyes, highly educated and tall" describing her to a tee
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader.. "https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdJ9-s3HEg Derren Brown does exactly that in this video. But he's up front about it being bullshit. He got the womans name right and everything. Mediums perform a very good manipulation. Theres skill in it but theres no honesty. Its been proven over and over and over again to be false. No ones ever produced any proof that it works. And yet some people still want to be fooled by thinking that theres some incredible person sitting in a shop or a caravan that can know the unknowable and predict the future and decides to use that power to tell you that you'll have a cold next week  | |||
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"Am not trying to convince anyone but just sharing my experience... I went to a tarot card reader in town and he could tell me what future area of work I was about to go into (hadn't told anyone at all). He also talked about a woman I was keen about at then, who hadn't said to anyone. Asked him to be more specific and describe her more... He did "brown hair, hazel deep set eyes, highly educated and tall" describing her to a tee
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdJ9-s3HEg
Derren Brown does exactly that in this video. But he's up front about it being bullshit. He got the womans name right and everything.
Mediums perform a very good manipulation. Theres skill in it but theres no honesty.
Its been proven over and over and over again to be false. No ones ever produced any proof that it works. And yet some people still want to be fooled by thinking that theres some incredible person sitting in a shop or a caravan that can know the unknowable and predict the future and decides to use that power to tell you that you'll have a cold next week "Darwin's theory of evolution is proven and people still believe in Adam and Eve. I envy people's faith at times for the comfort that they draw from it. I have a dream book to interpret dreams which I think is fascinating but I don't live my life rigidly by it. I also have two Beautiful decks of very different cards, all a lovely comfort and a bit of fun. I would have a problem with a medium saying someone needed ten sessions! But think they operate under the same idea that what they do is a comfort not a rip off. As long as it's an informed adult choice, then it's their money so off with them. Madame B | |||
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"Am not trying to convince anyone but just sharing my experience... I went to a tarot card reader in town and he could tell me what future area of work I was about to go into (hadn't told anyone at all). He also talked about a woman I was keen about at then, who hadn't said to anyone. Asked him to be more specific and describe her more... He did "brown hair, hazel deep set eyes, highly educated and tall" describing her to a tee
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdJ9-s3HEg
Derren Brown does exactly that in this video. But he's up front about it being bullshit. He got the womans name right and everything.
Mediums perform a very good manipulation. Theres skill in it but theres no honesty.
Its been proven over and over and over again to be false. No ones ever produced any proof that it works. And yet some people still want to be fooled by thinking that theres some incredible person sitting in a shop or a caravan that can know the unknowable and predict the future and decides to use that power to tell you that you'll have a cold next week
Darwin's theory of evolution is proven and people still believe in Adam and Eve.
I envy people's faith at times for the comfort that they draw from it.
I have a dream book to interpret dreams which I think is fascinating but I don't live my life rigidly by it. I also have two Beautiful decks of very different cards, all a lovely comfort and a bit of fun.
I would have a problem with a medium saying someone needed ten sessions! But think they operate under the same idea that what they do is a comfort not a rip off.
As long as it's an informed adult choice, then it's their money so off with them.
Madame B"As a bit of entertainment Ive no issue with it. Fun is fun and adults make their own decisions. But its something thats wide open to abuse and it preys on people who are gullible and possibly in a vulnerable place. There are plenty of horror stories of people losing their life savings or making terrible decisions because of this stuff. As long as you realise the magician isnt actually sawing the woman in half its fine. But too many people put stock into the con and that cant be good. | |||
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"Am not trying to convince anyone but just sharing my experience... I went to a tarot card reader in town and he could tell me what future area of work I was about to go into (hadn't told anyone at all). He also talked about a woman I was keen about at then, who hadn't said to anyone. Asked him to be more specific and describe her more... He did "brown hair, hazel deep set eyes, highly educated and tall" describing her to a tee
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So, I went, listened but finally decided afterwards that I'd rather not know my future even if he could tell me more specifics about it...
To the cynics and sarcastics out there, am not trying to convince but I do believe in tarot cards if done by a proper tarot card reader..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdJ9-s3HEg
Derren Brown does exactly that in this video. But he's up front about it being bullshit. He got the womans name right and everything.
Mediums perform a very good manipulation. Theres skill in it but theres no honesty.
Its been proven over and over and over again to be false. No ones ever produced any proof that it works. And yet some people still want to be fooled by thinking that theres some incredible person sitting in a shop or a caravan that can know the unknowable and predict the future and decides to use that power to tell you that you'll have a cold next week "---------------------------------------- I'm very aware of Derren Brown's work. However, to say that tarot cards or clairvoyance has "been proven over and over again to be false" is too general and a bit dismissive of anyone who has ever experienced anything outside the realm of everyday reality. You want proof... Ever heard of Nostradamus? Edgar Cayce? Miracles at Lourdes? Pays to question things but also to keep an open mind to new things too... | |||
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" I'm very aware of Derren Brown's work. However, to say that tarot cards or clairvoyance has "been proven over and over again to be false" is too general and a bit dismissive of anyone who has ever experienced anything outside the realm of everyday reality. You want proof... Ever heard of Nostradamus? Edgar Cayce? Miracles at Lourdes? Pays to question things but also to keep an open mind to new things too... "Its not too general at all. Every single time, each and every single time, tarot cards, clairvoyance, esp, psychic abilities have been put to the test theyve been shown up as fraudulent. For example James Randi has offered $1 million dollars to anyone who can demonstrate any abilities and despite running this competition for over 50 years not one person claimed it. Yes I lve actually read a couple books on nostradamus and watched the film on him (wasnt great, books were more interesting) and its an interesting thing. But wholly fraudelent. Theres an easy example of how vague Nostramdamus is and its this passage in relation to 9/11: "In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning" Everyone got this by email in september 2001 and it seems to fit perfectly...except Nostradamus didnt write it. It was written by a Canadian student who wrote it to show how vague Nostrdamus's writings were and how easily you could fit world events to fit one prediction or another. Cayce believed in giants, atlantis, magic crystals, pre historic death rays and predicted the destruction of both San Francisco and New York before 1998. He was also a fraud that made a lot of money preying on vulnerable people like people who had loved ones MIA during world war 2. Psychics and mediums are, have, been and will remain liars and con artists. You arent more open minded by saying they might be real, youre just less able to weigh the evidence of the world around you and make sound judgements. That might sound harsh but if you cant learn to weigh the facts and make good decisions based on evidence then you'll end up making poor decisions throughout your life. Its this bullshit idea of "keeping an open mind" that leaves children unvaccinated and costs lives. Theres not one bit of evidence that backs up psychics and their methods have long been exposed. How much more would anyone need to realise theyre being conned?? | |||
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" I'm very aware of Derren Brown's work. However, to say that tarot cards or clairvoyance has "been proven over and over again to be false" is too general and a bit dismissive of anyone who has ever experienced anything outside the realm of everyday reality. You want proof... Ever heard of Nostradamus? Edgar Cayce? Miracles at Lourdes? Pays to question things but also to keep an open mind to new things too...
Its not too general at all. Every single time, each and every single time, tarot cards, clairvoyance, esp, psychic abilities have been put to the test theyve been shown up as fraudulent.
For example James Randi has offered $1 million dollars to anyone who can demonstrate any abilities and despite running this competition for over 50 years not one person claimed it.
Yes I lve actually read a couple books on nostradamus and watched the film on him (wasnt great, books were more interesting) and its an interesting thing. But wholly fraudelent. Theres an easy example of how vague Nostramdamus is and its this passage in relation to 9/11:
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb,
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Everyone got this by email in september 2001 and it seems to fit perfectly...except Nostradamus didnt write it. It was written by a Canadian student who wrote it to show how vague Nostrdamus's writings were and how easily you could fit world events to fit one prediction or another.
Cayce believed in giants, atlantis, magic crystals, pre historic death rays and predicted the destruction of both San Francisco and New York before 1998. He was also a fraud that made a lot of money preying on vulnerable people like people who had loved ones MIA during world war 2.
Psychics and mediums are, have, been and will remain liars and con artists. You arent more open minded by saying they might be real, youre just less able to weigh the evidence of the world around you and make sound judgements. That might sound harsh but if you cant learn to weigh the facts and make good decisions based on evidence then you'll end up making poor decisions throughout your life. Its this bullshit idea of "keeping an open mind" that leaves children unvaccinated and costs lives.
Theres not one bit of evidence that backs up psychics and their methods have long been exposed. How much more would anyone need to realise theyre being conned?? "Fook it... we hit the bar there! I agreed with everything you said until the vaccination bit. | |||
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" Fook it... we hit the bar there! I agreed with everything you said until the vaccination bit." What about the vaccinations did you disagree with? | |||
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" Fook it... we hit the bar there! I agreed with everything you said until the vaccination bit. What about the vaccinations did you disagree with?" Not having V having them . | |||
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" I'm very aware of Derren Brown's work. However, to say that tarot cards or clairvoyance has "been proven over and over again to be false" is too general and a bit dismissive of anyone who has ever experienced anything outside the realm of everyday reality. You want proof... Ever heard of Nostradamus? Edgar Cayce? Miracles at Lourdes? Pays to question things but also to keep an open mind to new things too...
Its not too general at all. Every single time, each and every single time, tarot cards, clairvoyance, esp, psychic abilities have been put to the test theyve been shown up as fraudulent.
For example James Randi has offered $1 million dollars to anyone who can demonstrate any abilities and despite running this competition for over 50 years not one person claimed it.
Yes I lve actually read a couple books on nostradamus and watched the film on him (wasnt great, books were more interesting) and its an interesting thing. But wholly fraudelent. Theres an easy example of how vague Nostramdamus is and its this passage in relation to 9/11:
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb,
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Everyone got this by email in september 2001 and it seems to fit perfectly...except Nostradamus didnt write it. It was written by a Canadian student who wrote it to show how vague Nostrdamus's writings were and how easily you could fit world events to fit one prediction or another.
Cayce believed in giants, atlantis, magic crystals, pre historic death rays and predicted the destruction of both San Francisco and New York before 1998. He was also a fraud that made a lot of money preying on vulnerable people like people who had loved ones MIA during world war 2.
Psychics and mediums are, have, been and will remain liars and con artists. You arent more open minded by saying they might be real, youre just less able to weigh the evidence of the world around you and make sound judgements. That might sound harsh but if you cant learn to weigh the facts and make good decisions based on evidence then you'll end up making poor decisions throughout your life. Its this bullshit idea of "keeping an open mind" that leaves children unvaccinated and costs lives.
Theres not one bit of evidence that backs up psychics and their methods have long been exposed. How much more would anyone need to realise theyre being conned?? "--------------------------------------- Cayce was able to diagnose people's illnesses in his sleep thousands of times and died penniless. So his gift was not exactly a career move. Also writing off ESP is writing off a guy called Nicoli Tesla... Star wondering here... Did some psychic rob your girlfriend or something? | |||
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" --------------------------------------- Cayce was able to diagnose people's illnesses in his sleep thousands of times and died penniless. So his gift was not exactly a career move. Also writing off ESP is writing off a guy called Nicoli Tesla... Star wondering here... Did some psychic rob your girlfriend or something? "Cayce did not die penniless. Far from it. His complex had a 12 car garage, servants quarters and one of the largest gardens in several counties. His companies also had enough funding for a library, hospital and other organisations on top of his very lavish lifestyle. Not a bad career move after all!! No a psychic didnt run off with a girl. Any girl Id date wouldnt believe in nonsense thats been disproved again and again and again for a 100 years without one, not even a single case that was proved true. How is that? There are literally thousands across the world and across the last century and not one of them has been able to back up their claims and yet....you still believe them? Do you also believe in unicorns and fairies and gnomes because you have an open mind despite the fact theres no evidence for them either? | |||
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" --------------------------------------- Cayce was able to diagnose people's illnesses in his sleep thousands of times and died penniless. So his gift was not exactly a career move. Also writing off ESP is writing off a guy called Nicoli Tesla... Star wondering here... Did some psychic rob your girlfriend or something?
Cayce did not die penniless. Far from it. His complex had a 12 car garage, servants quarters and one of the largest gardens in several counties. His companies also had enough funding for a library, hospital and other organisations on top of his very lavish lifestyle. Not a bad career move after all!!
No a psychic didnt run off with a girl. Any girl Id date wouldnt believe in nonsense thats been disproved again and again and again for a 100 years without one, not even a single case that was proved true.
How is that? There are literally thousands across the world and across the last century and not one of them has been able to back up their claims and yet....you still believe them?
Do you also believe in unicorns and fairies and gnomes because you have an open mind despite the fact theres no evidence for them either?"--------------------------------------- Someone shares their own personal experience about going to a psychic but you know it all and can dismiss because you read something in a book... Am not into unicorns and I fired my parking angel last week but if you look out your back garden, might find a gnome staring right back at you | |||
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"There are some vaccinations I didn't let my kid's get which were since proven to be more detrimental to some that did. I will never have a problem questioning certain authorities or organisations on some topics. I don't get the relevance of vaccinations here though, have I missed something. Madame B" I don't want to comment for the poster but my reading of his post was that people who believe in the psychic powers of mediums would also believe that vaccines are dangerous, despite the evidence to the contrary. I'm genuinely curious M. B, what vaccines were proven to be detrimental? | |||
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"There are some vaccinations I didn't let my kid's get which were since proven to be more detrimental to some that did. I will never have a problem questioning certain authorities or organisations on some topics. I don't get the relevance of vaccinations here though, have I missed something. Madame B I don't want to comment for the poster but my reading of his post was that people who believe in the psychic powers of mediums would also believe that vaccines are dangerous, despite the evidence to the contrary. I'm genuinely curious M. B, what vaccines were proven to be detrimental?" Don't get me wrong, I did get my kid's vaccinations but didn't let my daughter's get one based on the side effects of some. Will pm you. Madame B | |||
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" --------------------------------------- Someone shares their own personal experience about going to a psychic but you know it all and can dismiss because you read something in a book... Am not into unicorns and I fired my parking angel last week but if you look out your back garden, might find a gnome staring right back at you "Anecdotal evidence isnt any evidence at all. You had a personal experience with someone who's a professional manipulator in circumstances that they created and suits them. Im wondering why youre so invested in perpetuating a fraud thats been disproven so many times over? Im assuming youre not a psychic yourself so is it just that youre one of those people that discounts any evidence that they might be wrong? Valiently defending your opinion long passed the point of reasonableness? Because Ive yet to see you point to anything thats even slightly credible. So if you cant find anything that backs up your point of view....then isnt it probable your point of view is wrong? I get that they're convincing. I get that you swear you didnt give anything away and certainly werent conscious of it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=If_9j7A8sEg Look at that video. Derren Brown without any prompting or clues figures out what day the woman is thinking of and what happened on that day. Looks incredibly convincing, how could that not be real? Because it isnt and Derren Brown is the first to tell you so. Its a con and a scam. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend it is real but is that how you want to live your life? Living in ignorance and making bad life choices because you wont admit your wrong? | |||
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"There are some vaccinations I didn't let my kid's get which were since proven to be more detrimental to some that did. I will never have a problem questioning certain authorities or organisations on some topics. I don't get the relevance of vaccinations here though, have I missed something. Madame B I don't want to comment for the poster but my reading of his post was that people who believe in the psychic powers of mediums would also believe that vaccines are dangerous, despite the evidence to the contrary. I'm genuinely curious M. B, what vaccines were proven to be detrimental? Don't get me wrong, I did get my kid's vaccinations but didn't let my daughter's get one based on the side effects of some. Will pm you. Madame B " Yes I was referring to people who believe all vaccines are evil despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, not to anyone who looks at a list of side effects that have been proven to result from any one particular vaccine or medicine. Particularly if one of the side effects may have a likely or more than usually adverse effect. Informed decision making is always a good idea. Following rumours found on facebook that have been debunked decades ago that can result in children dying is not a good idea. | |||
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"There are some vaccinations I didn't let my kid's get which were since proven to be more detrimental to some that did. I will never have a problem questioning certain authorities or organisations on some topics. I don't get the relevance of vaccinations here though, have I missed something. Madame B I don't want to comment for the poster but my reading of his post was that people who believe in the psychic powers of mediums would also believe that vaccines are dangerous, despite the evidence to the contrary. I'm genuinely curious M. B, what vaccines were proven to be detrimental? Don't get me wrong, I did get my kid's vaccinations but didn't let my daughter's get one based on the side effects of some. Will pm you. Madame B Yes I was referring to people who believe all vaccines are evil despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, not to anyone who looks at a list of side effects that have been proven to result from any one particular vaccine or medicine. Particularly if one of the side effects may have a likely or more than usually adverse effect. Informed decision making is always a good idea. Following rumours found on facebook that have been debunked decades ago that can result in children dying is not a good idea." | |||
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"Yes I was referring to people who believe all vaccines are evil despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, not to anyone who looks at a list of side effects that have been proven to result from any one particular vaccine or medicine. Particularly if one of the side effects may have a likely or more than usually adverse effect. Informed decision making is always a good idea. Following rumours found on facebook that have been debunked decades ago that can result in children dying is not a good idea." | |||
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"Anyone stupid enough to be conned out of money, and be caused emotional pain, by a psychic, medium or fortune teller deserves it and I have no sympathy for any of them whatsoever. I say good luck to the con artists. People have been making fortunes out of idiots for years. Just look at X-Factor etc." People who have suffered through pain might latch on to any hope that might exist. That guy Edgar Cayce for example took money from families who had sons and husbands missing in action in WW2. Others have joined searches for missing people and gotten families hopes up and directed resources to random spots. Everyones made mistakes and done things that are stupid. But there'll always be people who'll prey on any weakness they can find. The best thing any of us can do is try and educate others on what is and isnt a scam. | |||
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"Anyone stupid enough to be conned out of money, and be caused emotional pain, by a psychic, medium or fortune teller deserves it and I have no sympathy for any of them whatsoever. I say good luck to the con artists. People have been making fortunes out of idiots for years. Just look at X-Factor etc." Grief or a genuine sence of despair are powerful emotions. I think your comment shows a real lack of empathy. | |||
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"As a life-long Spiritualist, I know what I believe. Not the folks who use subterfuge to con people, or trickery in the name of entertainment. Anyone who expects payment in the name of Spirit, I discount as a Prospector. Spirit has no need of payment - It has no use. What you believe is your own business. Leave me to mine. " ---------------------------------------- There's no point talking to some people about your own experiences because they read something to the contrary in a book...
Some people throw tarot, reiki, energy healing, EFT, etc into one big melting pot called "medium" and then spout out words like "con" or "fraud" so there's no point in being drawn into a pointless chat or should I say monologue by the Sheldon Coopers of this world...
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"Anyone stupid enough to be conned out of money, and be caused emotional pain, by a psychic, medium or fortune teller deserves it and I have no sympathy for any of them whatsoever. I say good luck to the con artists. People have been making fortunes out of idiots for years. Just look at X-Factor etc. Grief or a genuine sence of despair are powerful emotions. I think your comment shows a real lack of empathy." But if they're too blind to see they are being conned then they are bringing it all on themselves. Grieving and despair is one thing. Paying someone to needlessly make you feel that way is another. You may say it gives them comfort or an escape, but so does heroin and alcohol. | |||
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"Anyone stupid enough to be conned out of money, and be caused emotional pain, by a psychic, medium or fortune teller deserves it and I have no sympathy for any of them whatsoever. I say good luck to the con artists. People have been making fortunes out of idiots for years. Just look at X-Factor etc. People who have suffered through pain might latch on to any hope that might exist. That guy Edgar Cayce for example took money from families who had sons and husbands missing in action in WW2. Others have joined searches for missing people and gotten families hopes up and directed resources to random spots. Everyones made mistakes and done things that are stupid. But there'll always be people who'll prey on any weakness they can find. The best thing any of us can do is try and educate others on what is and isnt a scam." Fair point. | |||
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"Anyone stupid enough to be conned out of money, and be caused emotional pain, by a psychic, medium or fortune teller deserves it and I have no sympathy for any of them whatsoever. I say good luck to the con artists. People have been making fortunes out of idiots for years. Just look at X-Factor etc. Grief or a genuine sence of despair are powerful emotions. I think your comment shows a real lack of empathy. But if they're too blind to see they are being conned then they are bringing it all on themselves. Grieving and despair is one thing. Paying someone to needlessly make you feel that way is another. You may say it gives them comfort or an escape, but so does heroin and alcohol. " I think branding anyone " Stupid " or " deserving ". In this context is a very broad stroke I think maybe " vulnerable" is more apt. | |||
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"Very interesting comments indeed. Well im a medium by birth but i dont ever charge. I dont believe in charging either. I never give bad messages nor would i. I have met people that i do not know yet tell them many things about their life and whos with them. Not everyone believes and thats ok. What i dont get is how some people claim to be mediums or physics and they are far from it. A medium /physic has to do alot of work before they actually meet someone. They have to build their energy up plus maintain a connection and keep it goin in order to give a reading. Its far from easy to do. Your gut feeling is actually a way of telling you aswell. Being a medium does not mean you have to be all about your faith. You dont have to be a religious nut either. Im catholic but i dont believe in the church or its standards or teachings but i do have faith in something and that something i am unsure of yet. I do not advertise myself nor do i want to. People come thru other people or friends. A great example of this is very young children and people who are close to death because they are so open and tuned in to whats around them. Children have whats called an imaginary friend but in truth its either their guardian angel or another child who passed away who is connected to the family. There are many cases that cant be explained as such because our ego is wantin to stop us from seein the truth of it. It's far easier to deny rather than believe. We as mediums are not out to rob peopke nor do we set about to hurt people and those who do this are money grabbin people and have no consideration no respect nor morals and as such they should be highlighted and shamed for it. We are each to our own. After all one can ask the question how do we know that there is a god. Thank you all." I know people who swear by certain mediums And consult them before making big decisions in their lives. Not for me. But each to their own | |||
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"As a life-long Spiritualist, I know what I believe. Not the folks who use subterfuge to con people, or trickery in the name of entertainment. Anyone who expects payment in the name of Spirit, I discount as a Prospector. Spirit has no need of payment - It has no use. What you believe is your own business. Leave me to mine. ---------------------------------------- There's no point talking to some people about your own experiences because they read something to the contrary in a book...
Some people throw tarot, reiki, energy healing, EFT, etc into one big melting pot called "medium" and then spout out words like "con" or "fraud" so there's no point in being drawn into a pointless chat or should I say monologue by the Sheldon Coopers of this world...
A person's beliefs, personal experiences and faith may be shared, but should always be respected... "Maybe you are one of the con artists after all? If pyschics were real then why have NONE of them been able to prove it when theyve been tested. Over the decades and among the thousands that alledgedly exist not a single one has been able to show any abilities beyond the manipulative tricks that Derren Brown and others like him routinely demonstrate. And no, peoples wrong beliefs shouldnt be respected. If you believe that one gender is better than another thats wrong. If you believe that fruits and nuts cure cancer thats wrong. If you believe that drinking a pint of whiskey a day is ok then thats wrong. And if you believe that theres someone who can communicate with the dead, can predict your future but is for some reason unable to demonstrate it when they cant use their tricks to do it then thats also wrong. It doesnt matter what I read in a book. What matters is that there is nothing to prove that this is a real thing. And when you talk about your personal experience all your saying is "I was convinced by their tricks" as many have been before you and will be after you. | |||
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"A physic is someone who reads your energy and a medium is someone who receives and speaks and sees loved ones and angels. I too had my doubts for many years but that said i always knew i was sble to feel and sense loved ones and guides and angels around me. I also feel peoples energies aswell. I never seek nor fo i want to be famous or anything. I enjoy giving the odd reading but i never ever tell someone how to live or to make their choices for them. I will never ever give bad news. Don't believe in that. The mediums that i know never go seeking. People get guided to mediums. I am what one would call physic /medium. If you thing about each of us have had strong gut feelings and some insight into changing our path in life in dome form. Repeating numbers or songs or feathers that appears in places that no bird can get into are often signs. I do agree that slot of so call mediums co rip off people and thats so wrong. For me i get the pleasure of seeing and knowing that i have passed evidence of a loved one passed and thrir message has been passed on. So thank you all" | |||
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"A physic is someone who reads your energy and a medium is someone who receives and speaks and sees loved ones and angels. I too had my doubts for many years but that said i always knew i was sble to feel and sense loved ones and guides and angels around me. I also feel peoples energies aswell. I never seek nor fo i want to be famous or anything. I enjoy giving the odd reading but i never ever tell someone how to live or to make their choices for them. I will never ever give bad news. Don't believe in that. The mediums that i know never go seeking. People get guided to mediums. I am what one would call physic /medium. If you thing about each of us have had strong gut feelings and some insight into changing our path in life in dome form. Repeating numbers or songs or feathers that appears in places that no bird can get into are often signs. I do agree that slot of so call mediums co rip off people and thats so wrong. For me i get the pleasure of seeing and knowing that i have passed evidence of a loved one passed and thrir message has been passed on. So thank you all" Oh for God's sake (pun intended) Angels
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"As a life-long Spiritualist, I know what I believe. Not the folks who use subterfuge to con people, or trickery in the name of entertainment. Anyone who expects payment in the name of Spirit, I discount as a Prospector. Spirit has no need of payment - It has no use. What you believe is your own business. Leave me to mine. ---------------------------------------- There's no point talking to some people about your own experiences because they read something to the contrary in a book...
Some people throw tarot, reiki, energy healing, EFT, etc into one big melting pot called "medium" and then spout out words like "con" or "fraud" so there's no point in being drawn into a pointless chat or should I say monologue by the Sheldon Coopers of this world...
A person's beliefs, personal experiences and faith may be shared, but should always be respected...
Maybe you are one of the con artists after all?
If pyschics were real then why have NONE of them been able to prove it when theyve been tested. Over the decades and among the thousands that alledgedly exist not a single one has been able to show any abilities beyond the manipulative tricks that Derren Brown and others like him routinely demonstrate.
And no, peoples wrong beliefs shouldnt be respected. If you believe that one gender is better than another thats wrong. If you believe that fruits and nuts cure cancer thats wrong. If you believe that drinking a pint of whiskey a day is ok then thats wrong.
And if you believe that theres someone who can communicate with the dead, can predict your future but is for some reason unable to demonstrate it when they cant use their tricks to do it then thats also wrong.
It doesnt matter what I read in a book. What matters is that there is nothing to prove that this is a real thing. And when you talk about your personal experience all your saying is "I was convinced by their tricks" as many have been before you and will be after you."---------------------------------------- "Maybe you are one of the con artists after all?" You psychic or something??! | |||
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"I am a professional Tarot card reader , I have s city centre premises the last 18 years , but I've been reading cards professionally nearly 26 years , , but reading cards another 7 years before that before I started doing it professionally. I've been in the Gerry Ryan show about 7 times , originally they were just going to have me on the once , but after doing not only Gerrys cards live on air , but also about a dozen or so who phoned in , they decided to have me on again , and again and again . May I say I did all this live on air , nothing recorded , and before I went into studio I'd never met Gerry . I did that between 1998 and 2002 . In 2004 I had a regular slot every Wednesday night on 98fms late night talk , Tom Branagan was the presenter of that show . Did that a year and a half or two years . In the meantime , I had a whole episode of "Would You Believe " filmed in my premises , the episode was called " The Devils Pack , you can google it . Oh I forgot , 1998 I did a newspaper article and did a list of predictions , one of which was who'd win the all Ireland , I said Galway ,,, journalist ( Des Egan ) looks at me in puzzlement , are you sure he said , yes I said . Galway won , next year I predicted Meath would win , they did . Did predictions for the 2007 election , got them right , and yes did predictions for last years election in the Irish times . I've been on countless other radio and Tv shows , mostly radio , I've got more of s face for radio ! Lol . Obviously I can't reveal some of the very well known people who come to me , but I'm telling you you'd be shocked at who comes to me , you really would , and yes sometimes it pisses me off that these people would deny coming to me , but that's life . And by the way yes I agree there are a lot out there that are utter shite , and really don't know what their doing , but you could say that about any profession . " Heres the thing though, if you can predict the winners of sporting events and elections why not use that for some real good in the world? You could easily put some money on these predictions and donate the winnings to some very needy charities. With a single winning prediction you could save hundreds in the third world from an unnecessary death or suffering. If you can confidently predict a series of events you could easily save more lives than Oskar Schindler. | |||
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"I am a professional Tarot card reader , I have s city centre premises the last 18 years , but I've been reading cards professionally nearly 26 years , , but reading cards another 7 years before that before I started doing it professionally. I've been in the Gerry Ryan show about 7 times , originally they were just going to have me on the once , but after doing not only Gerrys cards live on air , but also about a dozen or so who phoned in , they decided to have me on again , and again and again . May I say I did all this live on air , nothing recorded , and before I went into studio I'd never met Gerry . I did that between 1998 and 2002 . In 2004 I had a regular slot every Wednesday night on 98fms late night talk , Tom Branagan was the presenter of that show . Did that a year and a half or two years . In the meantime , I had a whole episode of "Would You Believe " filmed in my premises , the episode was called " The Devils Pack , you can google it . Oh I forgot , 1998 I did a newspaper article and did a list of predictions , one of which was who'd win the all Ireland , I said Galway ,,, journalist ( Des Egan ) looks at me in puzzlement , are you sure he said , yes I said . Galway won , next year I predicted Meath would win , they did . Did predictions for the 2007 election , got them right , and yes did predictions for last years election in the Irish times . I've been on countless other radio and Tv shows , mostly radio , I've got more of s face for radio ! Lol . Obviously I can't reveal some of the very well known people who come to me , but I'm telling you you'd be shocked at who comes to me , you really would , and yes sometimes it pisses me off that these people would deny coming to me , but that's life . And by the way yes I agree there are a lot out there that are utter shite , and really don't know what their doing , but you could say that about any profession . Heres the thing though, if you can predict the winners of sporting events and elections why not use that for some real good in the world? You could easily put some money on these predictions and donate the winnings to some very needy charities. With a single winning prediction you could save hundreds in the third world from an unnecessary death or suffering. If you can confidently predict a series of events you could easily save more lives than Oskar Schindler." and you could go off to Africa and volunteer and save loads of lives too ! | |||
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"I am a professional Tarot card reader , I have s city centre premises the last 18 years , but I've been reading cards professionally nearly 26 years , , but reading cards another 7 years before that before I started doing it professionally. I've been in the Gerry Ryan show about 7 times , originally they were just going to have me on the once , but after doing not only Gerrys cards live on air , but also about a dozen or so who phoned in , they decided to have me on again , and again and again . May I say I did all this live on air , nothing recorded , and before I went into studio I'd never met Gerry . I did that between 1998 and 2002 . In 2004 I had a regular slot every Wednesday night on 98fms late night talk , Tom Branagan was the presenter of that show . Did that a year and a half or two years . In the meantime , I had a whole episode of "Would You Believe " filmed in my premises , the episode was called " The Devils Pack , you can google it . Oh I forgot , 1998 I did a newspaper article and did a list of predictions , one of which was who'd win the all Ireland , I said Galway ,,, journalist ( Des Egan ) looks at me in puzzlement , are you sure he said , yes I said . Galway won , next year I predicted Meath would win , they did . Did predictions for the 2007 election , got them right , and yes did predictions for last years election in the Irish times . I've been on countless other radio and Tv shows , mostly radio , I've got more of s face for radio ! Lol . Obviously I can't reveal some of the very well known people who come to me , but I'm telling you you'd be shocked at who comes to me , you really would , and yes sometimes it pisses me off that these people would deny coming to me , but that's life . And by the way yes I agree there are a lot out there that are utter shite , and really don't know what their doing , but you could say that about any profession . Heres the thing though, if you can predict the winners of sporting events and elections why not use that for some real good in the world? You could easily put some money on these predictions and donate the winnings to some very needy charities. With a single winning prediction you could save hundreds in the third world from an unnecessary death or suffering. If you can confidently predict a series of events you could easily save more lives than Oskar Schindler.and you could go off to Africa and volunteer and save loads of lives too ! " And by the way , before you say anything about winning on the lottery , I have won money betting on the euromillions , and if you like I can send you proof of that . Will that shut you up !!! Lol | |||
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"I am a professional Tarot card reader , I have s city centre premises the last 18 years , but I've been reading cards professionally nearly 26 years , , but reading cards another 7 years before that before I started doing it professionally. I've been in the Gerry Ryan show about 7 times , originally they were just going to have me on the once , but after doing not only Gerrys cards live on air , but also about a dozen or so who phoned in , they decided to have me on again , and again and again . May I say I did all this live on air , nothing recorded , and before I went into studio I'd never met Gerry . I did that between 1998 and 2002 . In 2004 I had a regular slot every Wednesday night on 98fms late night talk , Tom Branagan was the presenter of that show . Did that a year and a half or two years . In the meantime , I had a whole episode of "Would You Believe " filmed in my premises , the episode was called " The Devils Pack , you can google it . Oh I forgot , 1998 I did a newspaper article and did a list of predictions , one of which was who'd win the all Ireland , I said Galway ,,, journalist ( Des Egan ) looks at me in puzzlement , are you sure he said , yes I said . Galway won , next year I predicted Meath would win , they did . Did predictions for the 2007 election , got them right , and yes did predictions for last years election in the Irish times . I've been on countless other radio and Tv shows , mostly radio , I've got more of s face for radio ! Lol . Obviously I can't reveal some of the very well known people who come to me , but I'm telling you you'd be shocked at who comes to me , you really would , and yes sometimes it pisses me off that these people would deny coming to me , but that's life . And by the way yes I agree there are a lot out there that are utter shite , and really don't know what their doing , but you could say that about any profession . Heres the thing though, if you can predict the winners of sporting events and elections why not use that for some real good in the world? You could easily put some money on these predictions and donate the winnings to some very needy charities. With a single winning prediction you could save hundreds in the third world from an unnecessary death or suffering. If you can confidently predict a series of events you could easily save more lives than Oskar Schindler." There is millions on offer from various groups to anyone who can prove they have psychic powers under lab conditions. All unclaimed What they do with the money if they won it is up to them tho | |||
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"Even a broken clock is correct twice a day" Yes that is true , but what's that got to do with anything ? Bit of a stupid thing to say really . And I wouldn't be reading professionally for 26 years unless I was accurate . Sure why don't you just google me there and se what people who've actually been to me say about me . | |||
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"I am a professional Tarot card reader , I have s city centre premises the last 18 years , but I've been reading cards professionally nearly 26 years , , but reading cards another 7 years before that before I started doing it professionally. I've been in the Gerry Ryan show about 7 times , originally they were just going to have me on the once , but after doing not only Gerrys cards live on air , but also about a dozen or so who phoned in , they decided to have me on again , and again and again . May I say I did all this live on air , nothing recorded , and before I went into studio I'd never met Gerry . I did that between 1998 and 2002 . In 2004 I had a regular slot every Wednesday night on 98fms late night talk , Tom Branagan was the presenter of that show . Did that a year and a half or two years . In the meantime , I had a whole episode of "Would You Believe " filmed in my premises , the episode was called " The Devils Pack , you can google it . Oh I forgot , 1998 I did a newspaper article and did a list of predictions , one of which was who'd win the all Ireland , I said Galway ,,, journalist ( Des Egan ) looks at me in puzzlement , are you sure he said , yes I said . Galway won , next year I predicted Meath would win , they did . Did predictions for the 2007 election , got them right , and yes did predictions for last years election in the Irish times . I've been on countless other radio and Tv shows , mostly radio , I've got more of s face for radio ! Lol . Obviously I can't reveal some of the very well known people who come to me , but I'm telling you you'd be shocked at who comes to me , you really would , and yes sometimes it pisses me off that these people would deny coming to me , but that's life . And by the way yes I agree there are a lot out there that are utter shite , and really don't know what their doing , but you could say that about any profession . Heres the thing though, if you can predict the winners of sporting events and elections why not use that for some real good in the world? You could easily put some money on these predictions and donate the winnings to some very needy charities. With a single winning prediction you could save hundreds in the third world from an unnecessary death or suffering. If you can confidently predict a series of events you could easily save more lives than Oskar Schindler. There is millions on offer from various groups to anyone who can prove they have psychic powers under lab conditions. All unclaimed What they do with the money if they won it is up to them tho" Millions !!!! Wow , no wonder no ones ever approached me with that offer ! | |||
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"and you could go off to Africa and volunteer and save loads of lives too ! " Sadly, I have responsibilities in Dublin. My point being that you could save thousands of people without ever getting off the couch...if you genuinely can predict these things of course. So either you cant help or you choose not to help dying children who are suffering through great pain even though it would take a negligible amount of effort. But if you want Im happy to take the risk here. If you can post the ten scores in the premier league for the next gameweek Ill put enough on to win €1 million and then when/if it comes true Ill donate it all to the charity of your choice. With a million euro you could save children from starvation, save women from sex traffiking, fund suicide prevention, contribute to any number of researchers on diseases that kill millions, provide shelter for the homeless and so much more. But you wont. Of course. Because youre not genuine and you know youre not. You know that you cant predict anything with accuracy and confidence. You'll guess right sometimes and make informed guesses at other times. But the balls in your court, Ill put up the bet to save all that death, misery and suffering all you have to do is post the ten match scores. My own prediction is that all Ill get from you is silence or excuses. Maybe Im a psychic too!!! | |||
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"and you could go off to Africa and volunteer and save loads of lives too ! Sadly, I have responsibilities in Dublin. My point being that you could save thousands of people without ever getting off the couch...if you genuinely can predict these things of course. So either you cant help or you choose not to help dying children who are suffering through great pain even though it would take a negligible amount of effort. But if you want Im happy to take the risk here. If you can post the ten scores in the premier league for the next gameweek Ill put enough on to win €1 million and then when/if it comes true Ill donate it all to the charity of your choice. With a million euro you could save children from starvation, save women from sex traffiking, fund suicide prevention, contribute to any number of researchers on diseases that kill millions, provide shelter for the homeless and so much more. But you wont. Of course. Because youre not genuine and you know youre not. You know that you cant predict anything with accuracy and confidence. You'll guess right sometimes and make informed guesses at other times. But the balls in your court, Ill put up the bet to save all that death, misery and suffering all you have to do is post the ten match scores. My own prediction is that all Ill get from you is silence or excuses. Maybe Im a psychic too!!!" It doesn't work like that and you know it . What you're saying is actually making a mockery of all those people who are suffering in the world . Which is not very nice . | |||
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" It doesn't work like that and you know it . What you're saying is actually making a mockery of all those people who are suffering in the world . Which is not very nice . " You said you predicted the GAA winners, you said you predicted election results, you said you used your powers to win money on the euromillions. Why is this different? The mockery here is the con you do. You make a mockery of people who are vulnerable and reach out for help. You make a mockery out of their need for help and their desperation. You know full well the tricks and manipulations you use on these people and most people here know it too. What a surprise that when asked to make a clear prediction of an event where you cant manipulate the person into believing you you come up short. You cant predict anything. And youre knowingly conning people. There is NO reasonable test you would ever be capable of passing that would prove youre anything other than a con artist. My last prediction was that you'd give an excuse. My next one is that you'll whine about people being mean to you all the while avoiding ANY attempt to prove you are what you say you are. | |||
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"And I notice you've absolutely nothing to say about all the other stuff I mentioned in my post . Do you really think RTÉ would make a whole hour show about me if they didn't have proof that I was genuine . ??? How many tv shows have you done ? How many radio shows have you done ? How many newspaper and magazine articles have you had written about you ?? I'm guessing none ! " You guessed 2 all ireland winners 18 and 17 years ago. You guessed election results that werent in any real doubt. You won some money on the euro millions. Not very impressive. "Would You Believe" regularly features nonsense that isnt proven. Newspapers, magazines and radio also do horoscopes which are nonsense too. Mystic Meg is well known, frequently published and has some media noteriety. She's a hack even by the standards of psychics. When you make a prediction like exact scores of a few matches this weekend then I'll believe. Because thats not something you can make an informed guess about. | |||
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" It doesn't work like that and you know it . What you're saying is actually making a mockery of all those people who are suffering in the world . Which is not very nice . You said you predicted the GAA winners, you said you predicted election results, you said you used your powers to win money on the euromillions. Why is this different? The mockery here is the con you do. You make a mockery of people who are vulnerable and reach out for help. You make a mockery out of their need for help and their desperation. You know full well the tricks and manipulations you use on these people and most people here know it too. What a surprise that when asked to make a clear prediction of an event where you cant manipulate the person into believing you you come up short. You cant predict anything. And youre knowingly conning people. There is NO reasonable test you would ever be capable of passing that would prove youre anything other than a con artist. My last prediction was that you'd give an excuse. My next one is that you'll whine about people being mean to you all the while avoiding ANY attempt to prove you are what you say you are." I asked you if you wanted proof of my euro million win , and you don't . Really I don't have to prove myself to anyone . And you seem to think that people who come to me are desperate and vulnerable , which is so not true . Lots of business people , doctors , Soliciter's , I have a judge who comes to me , and a few members of the present government have been to me . I do not con anyone , my clients come to me and they tell me that I help them a lot . I don't ask anyone to come to me , and anyone who comes to me in need of other help , as in a counsellor or therapist , I point them in that direction . They have free Will as an adult to decide to come to me or not . And as I said , do you really think RTÉ would spend two days filming an hour long episode of Would You Believe with me if they didn't know for sure that I'm genuine . I'm sure you've googled it by now , so have a good read, it's very interesting . | |||
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"I asked you if you wanted proof of my euro million win , and you don't . Really I don't have to prove myself to anyone . And you seem to think that people who come to me are desperate and vulnerable , which is so not true . Lots of business people , doctors , Soliciter's , I have a judge who comes to me , and a few members of the present government have been to me . I do not con anyone , my clients come to me and they tell me that I help them a lot . I don't ask anyone to come to me , and anyone who comes to me in need of other help , as in a counsellor or therapist , I point them in that direction . They have free Will as an adult to decide to come to me or not . And as I said , do you really think RTÉ would spend two days filming an hour long episode of Would You Believe with me if they didn't know for sure that I'm genuine . I'm sure you've googled it by now , so have a good read, it's very interesting . " I dont care about the few quid you won on euro millions because thousands do that every single week without any magic powers. Would You Believe has also done episodes on "faith healers" and in the episode of tarot cards they also presented the opposite view that tarot was fake. Still waiting on a genuine prediction with some actual detail by the way. You know, the kind that cant be a good informed guess. But I think Ill be waiting a long time for that. | |||
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"I predicted two all Ireland winners when I was approached by the newspapers to do so . I didn't go to them , they came to me . As has happened with all the media stuff I've done , same with my clients , I don't ask anyone to come to me and I don't advertise . How successful have you been in your career ? Been written about lately ? Or asked to come on radio to talk about how incredible you are at your job ? No didn't think so ! " The newspapers came to you and asked your prediction and you gave it and you were right. And yet when I do the exact same thing and approach you about the football this weekend its suddenly "not how it works". Youre getting all tangled up here! You cant predict anything with any detail, accuracy or confidence. You work in grey areas of vague predictions and in educated guesses. When youre right you tell the world and when youre wrong you quietly forget about it. Give me a prediction, any prediction, that I can put money on for the sake of those underfunded charities and Ill do it. Elections, sporting events, whatever you want and we'll get that million for some great causes. (Although Im surprised you didnt do that for your previous predictions considering how much good you could have done!) Or you can admit that youre a fraud that uses cheap parlour tricks and is good filler entertainment for media. | |||
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"Even a broken clock is correct twice a day Yes that is true , but what's that got to do with anything ? Bit of a stupid thing to say really . And I wouldn't be reading professionally for 26 years unless I was accurate . Sure why don't you just google me there and se what people who've actually been to me say about me . " *googles "_onygirl19"..... | |||
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"I predicted two all Ireland winners when I was approached by the newspapers to do so . I didn't go to them , they came to me . As has happened with all the media stuff I've done , same with my clients , I don't ask anyone to come to me and I don't advertise . How successful have you been in your career ? Been written about lately ? Or asked to come on radio to talk about how incredible you are at your job ? No didn't think so ! The newspapers came to you and asked your prediction and you gave it and you were right. And yet when I do the exact same thing and approach you about the football this weekend its suddenly "not how it works". Youre getting all tangled up here! You cant predict anything with any detail, accuracy or confidence. You work in grey areas of vague predictions and in educated guesses. When youre right you tell the world and when youre wrong you quietly forget about it. Give me a prediction, any prediction, that I can put money on for the sake of those underfunded charities and Ill do it. Elections, sporting events, whatever you want and we'll get that million for some great causes. (Although Im surprised you didnt do that for your previous predictions considering how much good you could have done!) Or you can admit that youre a fraud that uses cheap parlour tricks and is good filler entertainment for media." I'll back that bet and will also give all the winnings to charity 50e on all the premier results this weekend . I usually get about 8 correct results but only 1 or 2 correct scores so this should be a doddle for you pony | |||
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"Arsenal v hull Manu v watford Middlesborough v Everton Stoke v palace Sunderland v Southampton Westham v westbrom Pool v spurs Burnley v Chelsea Swansea v Leicester Bournemouth v city In your capable hands
Does it take time? "The voice from the otherside is a Liverpool fan and has started explaining why next year is definitely Liverpools year and honestly they mean it this time! But obviously we're not going to get anything from her. Despite the fact she claims she did exactly this for newspapers when they asked her, she cant do it now because REASONS!! I dont feel sorry when those phone calls come in from fake microsoft workers trying to scam money or install terrible shit on your computer and I tell them where to go. I dont feel sorry when I delete emails from nigerian princes with $50m in the bank for me. And I dont feel sorry for anyone running this scam on people being shown up as a fraud and a liar either. You'd think that if she was psychic she'd have seen how the conversatiom was going to go and avoided it. | |||
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"Ok guys im saying this once ok. Respect should be shown at all times. You do have a right to your opinions but it does not give you the right to be disrespectful of who people are and what they are ok. In todays society we should know better than to slate someone over who they are and what they are. If you dont believe then so be but dont slate someone over it because im sure if it was you you wouldn't like it. Many thanks " Theres a difference between criticising people for who they are and what they choose to do. Who people are should always be respected, but when its obvious that someones being intentionally dishonest and profiting from it (which you dont) then I think its fair enough to be critical. Respect is important but some things dont deserve respect. Peoples racist, sexist, homophobic and/or transphobic opinions dont deserve respect because they show a lack of respect for others. Conning people out of their money, preying on the vulnerable and manipulating people also shows a complete lack of respect for people. So no, I dont respect anyone that profits from lies and that might just be something we'll have to disagree on. | |||
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"Ok guys im saying this once ok. Respect should be shown at all times. You do have a right to your opinions but it does not give you the right to be disrespectful of who people are and what they are ok. In todays society we should know better than to slate someone over who they are and what they are. If you dont believe then so be but dont slate someone over it because im sure if it was you you wouldn't like it. Many thanks Theres a difference between criticising people for who they are and what they choose to do. Who people are should always be respected, but when its obvious that someones being intentionally dishonest and profiting from it (which you dont) then I think its fair enough to be critical. Respect is important but some things dont deserve respect. Peoples racist, sexist, homophobic and/or transphobic opinions dont deserve respect because they show a lack of respect for others. Conning people out of their money, preying on the vulnerable and manipulating people also shows a complete lack of respect for people. So no, I dont respect anyone that profits from lies and that might just be something we'll have to disagree on." ---------------------------------------- Morning matey, to answer your question, firstly I'm not "one of the con artists" as you not-so-eloquently put it... However, there was a lady here who works as a tarot card reader who put her face, name and reputation behind her words on a swinging site. She was polite, articulate, explained what she did but that doesn't fit your world view so now the world has to hear your views on everything from "sex trafkiking" to "esp" and "faith healing"... So here's my idea. You're obviously very passionate about proving how psychics are "conning" people and that psychic ability doesn't exist so why don't you put your name and face behind your words like Ponygirl did either here or on youtube? Also, miracles have been documented in many holy texts throughout the ages like in the bible and the Qu'ran. So, am wondering when was the last time you walked down to your local mosque to set them all straight???
Look, we can all talk big and brave online but that lady presented herself in full, spoke her truth and had the courage of her convictions to do so. Do you? | |||
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"Ok guys im saying this once ok. Respect should be shown at all times. You do have a right to your opinions but it does not give you the right to be disrespectful of who people are and what they are ok. In todays society we should know better than to slate someone over who they are and what they are. If you dont believe then so be but dont slate someone over it because im sure if it was you you wouldn't like it. Many thanks Theres a difference between criticising people for who they are and what they choose to do. Who people are should always be respected, but when its obvious that someones being intentionally dishonest and profiting from it (which you dont) then I think its fair enough to be critical. Respect is important but some things dont deserve respect. Peoples racist, sexist, homophobic and/or transphobic opinions dont deserve respect because they show a lack of respect for others. Conning people out of their money, preying on the vulnerable and manipulating people also shows a complete lack of respect for people. So no, I dont respect anyone that profits from lies and that might just be something we'll have to disagree on. ---------------------------------------- Morning matey, to answer your question, firstly I'm not "one of the con artists" as you not-so-eloquently put it... However, there was a lady here who works as a tarot card reader who put her face, name and reputation behind her words on a swinging site. She was polite, articulate, explained what she did but that doesn't fit your world view so now the world has to hear your views on everything from "sex trafkiking" to "esp" and "faith healing"... So here's my idea. You're obviously very passionate about proving how psychics are "conning" people and that psychic ability doesn't exist so why don't you put your name and face behind your words like Ponygirl did either here or on youtube? Also, miracles have been documented in many holy texts throughout the ages like in the bible and the Qu'ran. So, am wondering when was the last time you walked down to your local mosque to set them all straight???
Look, we can all talk big and brave online but that lady presented herself in full, spoke her truth and had the courage of her convictions to do so. Do you? "Hi matey Im not talking big and brave on here. Im stating opinion and fact. If someone claimed they could perform miracles then Id expect proof of that or Id assume they hadnt done it.
I dont see what my face would add to the conversation (though its a pretty decent face, two eyes and a nose and everything). Just like ponygirls questioning of whether or not I was asked to be on the radio for my job had anything to do with anything. OP asked for opinions on psychics and people are replying with those opinions.
But here are the facts (channelling my inner Rafa here):
No self proclaimed psychic or medium has ever been able to demonstrate any psychic ability when tested.
People like Derren Brown have done these psychic readings and been able to derive what they were thinking, who they were thinking of and all the other "psychic" things that you're impressrd by. AND HE TELLS YOU ITS A CON. Theyre tricks and skills that hes learned. You can see the videos here of him and others doing those same things and he tells you its not psychic ability. Thats literally someone doing the things you say are so impressive and telling you its not real and still you believe it.
Do you still think wrestling is real? That all those guys arent working together to put on an entertainment show? Because these days they happily admit its all staged. But your reaction to being told that something is a con, by people who are actually doing it, is to pretend its still real anyway.
This is getting long winded sonlet me end by asking 2 simple questions:
Why do you believe Derren Brown is lying about his psychic shows being skills and tricks?
Why do you believe not a single psychic has ever been able to demonstrate any ability under test conditions? | |||
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"Ok guys im saying this once ok. Respect should be shown at all times. You do have a right to your opinions but it does not give you the right to be disrespectful of who people are and what they are ok. In todays society we should know better than to slate someone over who they are and what they are. If you dont believe then so be but dont slate someone over it because im sure if it was you you wouldn't like it. Many thanks Theres a difference between criticising people for who they are and what they choose to do. Who people are should always be respected, but when its obvious that someones being intentionally dishonest and profiting from it (which you dont) then I think its fair enough to be critical. Respect is important but some things dont deserve respect. Peoples racist, sexist, homophobic and/or transphobic opinions dont deserve respect because they show a lack of respect for others. Conning people out of their money, preying on the vulnerable and manipulating people also shows a complete lack of respect for people. So no, I dont respect anyone that profits from lies and that might just be something we'll have to disagree on. ---------------------------------------- Morning matey, to answer your question, firstly I'm not "one of the con artists" as you not-so-eloquently put it... However, there was a lady here who works as a tarot card reader who put her face, name and reputation behind her words on a swinging site. She was polite, articulate, explained what she did but that doesn't fit your world view so now the world has to hear your views on everything from "sex trafkiking" to "esp" and "faith healing"... So here's my idea. You're obviously very passionate about proving how psychics are "conning" people and that psychic ability doesn't exist so why don't you put your name and face behind your words like Ponygirl did either here or on youtube? Also, miracles have been documented in many holy texts throughout the ages like in the bible and the Qu'ran. So, am wondering when was the last time you walked down to your local mosque to set them all straight???
Look, we can all talk big and brave online but that lady presented herself in full, spoke her truth and had the courage of her convictions to do so. Do you?
Hi matey Im not talking big and brave on here. Im stating opinion and fact. If someone claimed they could perform miracles then Id expect proof of that or Id assume they hadnt done it.
I dont see what my face would add to the conversation (though its a pretty decent face, two eyes and a nose and everything). Just like ponygirls questioning of whether or not I was asked to be on the radio for my job had anything to do with anything. OP asked for opinions on psychics and people are replying with those opinions.
But here are the facts (channelling my inner Rafa here):
No self proclaimed psychic or medium has ever been able to demonstrate any psychic ability when tested.
People like Derren Brown have done these psychic readings and been able to derive what they were thinking, who they were thinking of and all the other "psychic" things that you're impressrd by. AND HE TELLS YOU ITS A CON. Theyre tricks and skills that hes learned. You can see the videos here of him and others doing those same things and he tells you its not psychic ability. Thats literally someone doing the things you say are so impressive and telling you its not real and still you believe it.
Do you still think wrestling is real? That all those guys arent working together to put on an entertainment show? Because these days they happily admit its all staged. But your reaction to being told that something is a con, by people who are actually doing it, is to pretend its still real anyway.
This is getting long winded sonlet me end by asking 2 simple questions:
Why do you believe Derren Brown is lying about his psychic shows being skills and tricks?
Why do you believe not a single psychic has ever been able to demonstrate any ability under test conditions?"--------------------------------------- Listen, you should go back to watching your wresting. I'm off to see if I can get myself a woman on Fab  Enjoy your day! | |||
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" Listen, you should go back to watching your wresting. I'm off to see if I can get myself a woman on Fab Enjoy your day!"Damn I should have predicted you wouldnt answer those questions. After predicting no one could post the right results for the matches this weekend that would have been 2 in a row
Im off to get my psychics license. But with a well regulated industry like that it might take a while to pass their tests | |||
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" Listen, you should go back to watching your wresting. I'm off to see if I can get myself a woman on Fab Enjoy your day!
Damn I should have predicted you wouldnt answer those questions. After predicting no one could post the right results for the matches this weekend that would have been 2 in a row
Im off to get my psychics license. But with a well regulated industry like that it might take a while to pass their tests "But you can predict the answers  | |||
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" There's no point talking to some people about your own experiences because they read something to the contrary in a book...
Some people throw tarot, reiki, energy healing, EFT, etc into one big melting pot called "medium" and then spout out words like "con" or "fraud" so there's no point in being drawn into a pointless chat or should I say monologue by the Sheldon Coopers of this world...
A person's beliefs, personal experiences and faith may be shared, but should always be respected... " | |||
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"Well said. Mis-information causes more problems when lumping things together that are actually unrelated. " Some things can be grouped together though. A scam is a scam is a scam. If it was real then at least one person, just one, would be able to show results when tested. But they cant. Why? Because bullshit never survives testing. | |||
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"Well said. Mis-information causes more problems when lumping things together that are actually unrelated. Some things can be grouped together though. A scam is a scam is a scam. If it was real then at least one person, just one, would be able to show results when tested. But they cant. Why? Because bullshit never survives testing." Will you chill! I recommend some meditation or yoga, otherwise I predict health issues in later life. | |||
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"Well said. Mis-information causes more problems when lumping things together that are actually unrelated. Some things can be grouped together though. A scam is a scam is a scam. If it was real then at least one person, just one, would be able to show results when tested. But they cant. Why? Because bullshit never survives testing. Will you chill! I recommend some meditation or yoga, otherwise I predict health issues in later life. "---------------------------------------- Moral of story here is that abstinence only makes for anger  Ever consider joining a swinging site or something??? | |||
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if you think Im actually worked up over this you must have missed the fact Ive been making jokes in most of the posts here.
But then again if you havent picked up on the signs youre getting conned then maybe youre just not very observant
But good attempt at deflecting from the questions I asked you, you might have a future in politics the way you avoid the difficult questions and try and convince people of the ridiculous | |||
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