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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation " It actually couldn't. | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation " But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation It actually couldn't. " Why not? What are the numbers? About 200 in Dublin? | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight " I know Geordie, it saddens me too and I see them everyday I give some change but it's a drop on the ocean | |||
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"I went into Galway city today and was shocked and saddened by the number of homeless people i passed sleeping in doorways. It was freezing last night. While we are are here luckily looking forward to socials and time spent in comfort with friends and family it was a stark reminder how so many others are not so fortunate. " Every town has them unfortunately but there are a lot of groups doing great work, there is a woman in Sligo who collects donations and they give them out, planning to purchase gloves, hats, toiletries etc and donate. | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight I know Geordie, it saddens me too and I see them everyday I give some change but it's a drop on the ocean " and the worst part of it was the first couple i saw were sleeping in the doorway of a hotel which closed a couple of years ago | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight I know Geordie, it saddens me too and I see them everyday I give some change but it's a drop on the ocean and the worst part of it was the first couple i saw were sleeping in the doorway of a hotel which closed a couple of years ago " And god forbid they do something with the Corrib Great Southern which would house how many? | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation It actually couldn't. Why not? What are the numbers? About 200 in Dublin? " A huge portion of homeless people just couldn't cope living in a house. So many of them have drug, drink and mental health issues. Simply putting them into a house isn't practical. Stuff like cooking for themselves, doing their laundry, paying bills, changing a lightbulb etc would be very difficult tasks. Long term funding and solutions are needed, but the general public and Government don't really give much of a shit about that. | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight I know Geordie, it saddens me too and I see them everyday I give some change but it's a drop on the ocean and the worst part of it was the first couple i saw were sleeping in the doorway of a hotel which closed a couple of years ago And god forbid they do something with the Corrib Great Southern which would house how many?" Exactly - it was Forster Court I passed - another huge empty building I know it's an ongoing problem but the time of year and the bitterly cold weather today made me even more upset & disgusted that this is happening in our day and age | |||
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"Thats very true!!! But... those who you saw in city centre is recently there and if give attention they not local.. Sure homeless can become anyone unfortunately,no matter race or nationality But Im very negative to believe to foreign homeless people.. It is proved that lots of them who begging on streets for money and really looks homeless but then they just walk and get into coolest car of the year... Some while ago I saw on Tv very good documentary movie where with hiden camera was filmed all.. " The ones i saw today were still wrapped in duvets Maza | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation It actually couldn't. Why not? What are the numbers? About 200 in Dublin? A huge portion of homeless people just couldn't cope living in a house. So many of them have drug, drink and mental health issues. Simply putting them into a house isn't practical. Stuff like cooking for themselves, doing their laundry, paying bills, changing a lightbulb etc would be very difficult tasks. Long term funding and solutions are needed, but the general public and Government don't really give much of a shit about that. " OK so you start with the sane but down on their luck people... They just need a kick start of shelter, work etc. The rest you give addiction and psychiatric treatment first The remainder are unfortunately lost causes but give them access to shelter food and sanitation regardless In the scheme of things it's not expensive How much does the government actually spend in any capacity on these things? | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation It actually couldn't. Why not? What are the numbers? About 200 in Dublin? A huge portion of homeless people just couldn't cope living in a house. So many of them have drug, drink and mental health issues. Simply putting them into a house isn't practical. Stuff like cooking for themselves, doing their laundry, paying bills, changing a lightbulb etc would be very difficult tasks. Long term funding and solutions are needed, but the general public and Government don't really give much of a shit about that. OK so you start with the sane but down on their luck people... They just need a kick start of shelter, work etc. The rest you give addiction and psychiatric treatment first The remainder are unfortunately lost causes but give them access to shelter food and sanitation regardless In the scheme of things it's not expensive How much does the government actually spend in any capacity on these things? " We've been throwing money at it for a long time. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/government-spends-32k-a-year-for-every-homeless-person-31472649.html | |||
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"And totally neglected by government Problem could be solved in the morning with a little motivation But it won't be - and that is the saddest part I cannot get it out of my head tonight I know Geordie, it saddens me too and I see them everyday I give some change but it's a drop on the ocean and the worst part of it was the first couple i saw were sleeping in the doorway of a hotel which closed a couple of years ago And god forbid they do something with the Corrib Great Southern which would house how many? Exactly - it was Forster Court I passed - another huge empty building I know it's an ongoing problem but the time of year and the bitterly cold weather today made me even more upset & disgusted that this is happening in our day and age" I seen them last week, it's so sad, they were just cuddled up to keep warm | |||
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"Lenses... Do you want to spend money to fix it or are throwing it away? Where are the government sponsored vans full of care teams actively going to help people sleeping on the streets who have nothing? Nowhere... It's all charity " Spend money to fix it, but in the right way. I thought the point was to get these people houses? A van full of care teams doesn't provide these people houses. Again that's simply pissing money down the drain if the long term goal is to help these people get off the street. | |||
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"But Geordie a gesture and a sad thought aren't worth anything We have enough 'awareness', we need people to be angry about it and to not accept it as the norm or think that it's a problem that can't be fixed or at least improved... That creates momentum and change " I agree with you on your first point But is there enough awareness? Shocked the hell out of me today | |||
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"Lenses... Do you want to spend money to fix it or are throwing it away? Where are the government sponsored vans full of care teams actively going to help people sleeping on the streets who have nothing? Nowhere... It's all charity Spend money to fix it, but in the right way. I thought the point was to get these people houses? A van full of care teams doesn't provide these people houses. Again that's simply pissing money down the drain if the long term goal is to help these people get off the street. " Step one is to provide them with more than a piss soaked duvet and a wet freezing alley | |||
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"A little creativity and it could be easily fixed but they do nothing Basic humanity should be the first priority of any government No homeless in Cuba btw " No dissenters alive either! | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are " Does their personal circumstances take away a basic human right ?? were all a paycheck away from situations these people are in and could also end up addicts...No one in Ireland should be sleeping rough end of | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are " I don't think even addicts like to live on the streets laid. Addicts are victims themselves and should be helped as much as anyone | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are I don't think even addicts like to live on the streets laid. Addicts are victims themselves and should be helped as much as anyone" maybe but given the option of staying clean or living in the streets most choose the streets. a few of my mates growing up that way. I they had more chances from detox centers and psychological help etc again I'm not saying every homeless person is there by choice but there are those that choose drugs over a place to stay | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are I don't think even addicts like to live on the streets laid. Addicts are victims themselves and should be helped as much as anyone maybe but given the option of staying clean or living in the streets most choose the streets. a few of my mates growing up that way. I they had more chances from detox centers and psychological help etc again I'm not saying every homeless person is there by choice but there are those that choose drugs over a place to stay " I don't think it's a case that they chose drugs, often they just can't win the battle to stay off them. | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are Does their personal circumstances take away a basic human right ?? were all a paycheck away from situations these people are in and could also end up addicts...No one in Ireland should be sleeping rough end of " Exactly jilly - most of us are one month's pay away from the street I suppose that's why it hit me so hard today seeing it Through no fault of my own I've been made redundant several times in recent years and although I managed to get employment again I took a drastic pay cut which meant I feared I may not be able to pay the rent & it could easily have been myself I passed today | |||
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"I went into Galway city today and was shocked and saddened by the number of homeless people i passed sleeping in doorways. It was freezing last night. While we are are here luckily looking forward to socials and time spent in comfort with friends and family it was a stark reminder how so many others are not so fortunate. " i was in belfast last night and again this evening .. and it makes me cross the num of romainians out pretentending to be homeless .. there has been incidents of them mugging genuine homeless ppl for whatever few pounds they have .. so im giving a donation to the homeless shelter instead this year | |||
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"I went into Galway city today and was shocked and saddened by the number of homeless people i passed sleeping in doorways. It was freezing last night. While we are are here luckily looking forward to socials and time spent in comfort with friends and family it was a stark reminder how so many others are not so fortunate. i was in belfast last night and again this evening .. and it makes me cross the num of romainians out pretentending to be homeless .. there has been incidents of them mugging genuine homeless ppl for whatever few pounds they have .. so im giving a donation to the homeless shelter instead this year " I get what you're saying but i saw genuine sleeping rough - still under duvets covered in frost in Galway this morning | |||
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"some of the blame has to go to the people themselves I know a few people who are homeless and also junkies/alcoholics and they had decent jobs houses etc even after they lost their homes their families tried to help them on the condition they stayed sober/clean and they would rather be on the streets than not on drugs. I know not every person that's homeless is on drugs etc but a high percentage are I don't think even addicts like to live on the streets laid. Addicts are victims themselves and should be helped as much as anyone maybe but given the option of staying clean or living in the streets most choose the streets. a few of my mates growing up that way. I they had more chances from detox centers and psychological help etc again I'm not saying every homeless person is there by choice but there are those that choose drugs over a place to stay " Laid no harm to you but dont talk shite ...No one chooses a life of addiction over a home what planet do u live on ffs ....Ive seen additions and believe me addicts want nothing more than to be clean and live a normal life ...Educate yourself on it | |||
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"These were not drug addicts, nor were they immigrants Not that it should matter " | |||
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"I went into Galway city today and was shocked and saddened by the number of homeless people i passed sleeping in doorways. It was freezing last night. While we are are here luckily looking forward to socials and time spent in comfort with friends and family it was a stark reminder how so many others are not so fortunate. " Yeah geordie alot near foster court I would say st pats near the train station is under pressure, it's a small place but there are very little facilities in Galway I have noticed it myself and it's more visible than another time that I can remember | |||
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"I went into Galway city today and was shocked and saddened by the number of homeless people i passed sleeping in doorways. It was freezing last night. While we are are here luckily looking forward to socials and time spent in comfort with friends and family it was a stark reminder how so many others are not so fortunate. " Geordie I am so with you on this and helping homeless individuals is an issue I feel very passionately about. For sure, reasons for people finding themselves homeless are numerous and complex, ranging from financial difficulty, drug addiction, relationship breakdown, mental health problems... whatever the case may be... at the end of the day people are sleeping on the streets, often alone and forgotten about in what is supposed to be a civilised country. Fixing the homeless crisis seems a political headache, but sometimes what makes a small bit of difference to these men and women is a little bit of humanity on an individual level - I often talk to homeless people and ask them if they are ok, do they need anything and maybe give them a few Euro if they need food or money for a hostel. Even to just look these people in the face or say hello to them instead of pretending not to see them like so many do is something small everyone can do if you are that way inclined. I've found volunteering with various homeless charities in many different capacities over the years helped me feel less like a bystander. Small gestures can go a long way - FACT | |||
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