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"Tbh I have met attatched people I'd prefer to make that decision for myself ..but I have met others on here that after a few meets I found out that they were in a relationship and that hurt .. I'd rather mske up my own mind so just be truthful " Same as this... it's the liars that are the cheats in my opinion! | |||
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"No problem as long as all parties know from the outset and freely make there own decisions. ....no right to pass judgement on other people's choice or circumstances but should be warned with the facts so you can make your own informed decision" Agreed | |||
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"I wouldn't get anymore of a kick out of meeting an attached guy from a single guy!" | |||
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"I've met attached men, no big deal because it's none of my business, but I don't really see/get any additional kick in/out of it. " Same here ,what kick would there be in it ?? | |||
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"What about Siamese twins? " They are not married to one another so that's ok | |||
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"What about Siamese twins? They are not married to one another so that's ok " | |||
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"What about Siamese twins? They are not married to one another so that's ok " | |||
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"Some like the idea or risk involved meeting attached people where some dont. I think its more the risk involved personaly that makes it a turn on. I know some think it a complete no no to do it. What are your views people" Just curious. Are you an attached person? Is that why you ask? | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property...." My feelings exactly | |||
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"Tbh I have met attatched people I'd prefer to make that decision for myself ..but I have met others on here that after a few meets I found out that they were in a relationship and that hurt .. I'd rather mske up my own mind so just be truthful Same as this... it's the liars that are the cheats in my opinion! " Agreed ladies, it gives me the chance to make an informed decision. | |||
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"Tbh I have met attatched people I'd prefer to make that decision for myself ..but I have met others on here that after a few meets I found out that they were in a relationship and that hurt .. I'd rather mske up my own mind so just be truthful Same as this... it's the liars that are the cheats in my opinion! Agreed ladies, it gives me the chance to make an informed decision. " Yurt... | |||
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"I think only attached guys are attracted to me . Being honest... I meet attached guys but I'm starting to think that karma will come back to bite me in the ass (not in a good way). So I'm trying to keep away from the attached ones. " Don't be silly all men would be attracted to.you not just attached I putvattached on my profile so women know from the get go Others that don't domsonforntheir own reasons | |||
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"Have enough drama in life without adding someone else's drama " Exactly this! | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property.... My feelings exactly " Property!!! Really | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property.... My feelings exactly Property!!! Really " my ex husband thought of me as his property....thats why he's my ex! | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property.... My feelings exactly Property!!! Really my ex husband thought of me as his property....thats why he's my ex!" Mine too but I battled it to the death;) | |||
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"I have met attached people. Not really my business tbh. I don't get a kick out of it though. In fact meeting attached people can be annoying ie. Last minute cancellations, no sociable time cause might be seen and all that " | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for." But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger? | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger?" Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger? Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind " But yet alot of them still lie about it | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger? Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind But yet alot of them still lie about it " I'm not disputing that. Just making a point | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger? Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind But yet alot of them still lie about it I'm not disputing that. Just making a point " I get your point though | |||
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"Doesn't bother me if I meet an attached person or not. " Most of the guys on here don't seem too bothered. We guess it is because a lot of them are attached themselves. | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expect them to be honest with a stranger? Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind But yet alot of them still lie about it I'm not disputing that. Just making a point I get your point though " Thousands on here and I am not attached so find it extremely offensive that they lied to me... again not bothered about their personal life just don't lie about it. | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property.... My feelings exactly Property!!! Really " Waiting for that | |||
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"I think its a turn on...playing with someone else's property.... My feelings exactly Property!!! Really Waiting for that" Brave or silly... can't decide | |||
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"I think only attached guys are attracted to me . Being honest... I meet attached guys but I'm starting to think that karma will come back to bite me in the ass (not in a good way). So I'm trying to keep away from the attached ones. " Lol Unattached, and Attracted to you ;-) | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for." that I agree with completely (As usual) let the potential meet make an informed choice. no need to be a liar to everyone | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. that I agree with completely (As usual) let the potential meet make an informed choice. no need to be a liar to everyone" I just don't get the need for it! Maybe they get off on the lies but lay it out there. | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. that I agree with completely (As usual) let the potential meet make an informed choice. no need to be a liar to everyone I just don't get the need for it! Maybe they get off on the lies but lay it out there. " lies are easy. It's harder to tell the truth. There is a bigger chance of rejection. | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show" Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white " Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually" So you've been married and can speak from experience | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience " I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white " We agee marriage isn't black and white. But surely honesty is to people you care for? | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual" No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... " Shouldn't any decisions be made by both partners though? If you love them that much do they not deserve a choice? Surely they should be able to choose if they accept the situation just as the person choosing to go elsewhere has made their choice? | |||
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"Again no judgement if above board about it. No idea of people's circumstances, nor do I want to...just be honest about it!!! Lying about your situation is just shitty and uncalled for. But they thing is if they are lying to the person they are attached with why do people expetc them to be honest with a stranger? Well they have a lot to lose with their partner. But with someone you meet online why bother lying? If they don't like it there's plenty more who won't mind But yet alot of them still lie about it I'm not disputing that. Just making a point I get your point though Thousands on here and I am not attached so find it extremely offensive that they lied to me... again not bothered about their personal life just don't lie about it." As a previous poster stated that why wouldn't you expect them too...they're lying to their partner who is supposedly important to them so why not to you a stranger for all intents and purpose? If it is such an issue for you and Many others on here then don't meet knowingly anyone who is not single. The lying subject comes up weekly on here and I find it interesting that it's only when 'we' are lied to that we take offence but we don't think much about lying to others...there's not a single person on here that isn't lying or who hasn't lied in some way about their fab activities to someone. It's easy to throw the first stone as they say and not stand back in judgement. I do find it a bit two faced when I read those who complain about others cheating and yet they themselves see nothing about meeting a married or attached person who is playing behind their partners back. Just my thoughts and not intended as personal to anyone on the post here. | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... Shouldn't any decisions be made by both partners though? If you love them that much do they not deserve a choice? Surely they should be able to choose if they accept the situation just as the person choosing to go elsewhere has made their choice? " Not everyone has such openness in their relationships.... The majority of attached people I've been with have all brought up the ideas of swinging to their partners and their reactions were anything but favourable..... | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... " That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... Shouldn't any decisions be made by both partners though? If you love them that much do they not deserve a choice? Surely they should be able to choose if they accept the situation just as the person choosing to go elsewhere has made their choice? Not everyone has such openness in their relationships.... The majority of attached people I've been with have all brought up the ideas of swinging to their partners and their reactions were anything but favourable..... " Ah well then,if they didn't get exactly what they want then it's all ok to lie and cheat to get it | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view" Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! " Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site" No I'm comparing other people's points of view!! Not mine... | |||
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"So if the cheaters are lying to those meeting them and say they are single are the ones meeting them still as bad? " That seems to be the assumption... | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site No I'm comparing other people's points of view!! Not mine..." That's not a point of view that should be aired here on a swing site,that swinging is warped, because we all know that what happens between consenting adults is perfectly fine don't we??? Whereas cheaters hurt their nonconsenting other halves | |||
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"So if the cheaters are lying to those meeting them and say they are single are the ones meeting them still as bad? " No just more victims of the cheaters lies The meets that know and don't care are just as bad IMO | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site No I'm comparing other people's points of view!! Not mine... That's not a point of view that should be aired here on a swing site,that swinging is warped, because we all know that what happens between consenting adults is perfectly fine don't we??? Whereas cheaters hurt their nonconsenting other halves " They are only hurt if they find out about it.... You have your views I have mine! I don't judge those attached people who for whatever reason are on the site! As I said there is lots of grey in a relationship...not just black and white! | |||
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"So if the cheaters are lying to those meeting them and say they are single are the ones meeting them still as bad? No just more victims of the cheaters lies The meets that know and don't care are just as bad IMO " Ok | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually" still puzzles me when people say dont judge. everybody judges every single day.think your response is spot on and not hidden behind bullshit which is rather refreshing . | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site No I'm comparing other people's points of view!! Not mine... That's not a point of view that should be aired here on a swing site,that swinging is warped, because we all know that what happens between consenting adults is perfectly fine don't we??? Whereas cheaters hurt their nonconsenting other halves They are only hurt if they find out about it.... You have your views I have mine! I don't judge those attached people who for whatever reason are on the site! As I said there is lots of grey in a relationship...not just black and white! " They are only hurt if they find out? So are we saying it is okay to do it and not tell them?? To take away their choice of what they will accept while a cheat makes the choice of both doing what they want, and saying that their partner must accept it? Okay.... | |||
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"Reading down through this thread made me wonder why hasn't the term NSA been mentioned! Should we change it to No Judgement Attached? People meeting up to swing IMO should be open and honest and upfront other than that it's all good. Why they are here is their own business....no body should have to justify their presence on this site to another member" Are we talking about justifying being here to other members, or talking about being honest to the person we profess to love so much we cannot bear to be without them? Surely a question is would they want to be with a partner who is cheating? Surely they should be allowed that choice? | |||
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"Reading down through this thread made me wonder why hasn't the term NSA been mentioned! Should we change it to No Judgement Attached? People meeting up to swing IMO should be open and honest and upfront other than that it's all good. Why they are here is their own business....no body should have to justify their presence on this site to another member Are we talking about justifying being here to other members, or talking about being honest to the person we profess to love so much we cannot bear to be without them? Surely a question is would they want to be with a partner who is cheating? Surely they should be allowed that choice?" To other members here...end of. People's personal life is their own business. Be honest on your profile and it's an informed decision on who chooses to interact with them beyond that point. | |||
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"Reading down through this thread made me wonder why hasn't the term NSA been mentioned! Should we change it to No Judgement Attached? People meeting up to swing IMO should be open and honest and upfront other than that it's all good. Why they are here is their own business....no body should have to justify their presence on this site to another member Are we talking about justifying being here to other members, or talking about being honest to the person we profess to love so much we cannot bear to be without them? Surely a question is would they want to be with a partner who is cheating? Surely they should be allowed that choice? To other members here...end of. People's personal life is their own business. Be honest on your profile and it's an informed decision on who chooses to interact with them beyond that point. " With the greatest of respect, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Others do not share it, and that is the beauty of public discussion in Forums. | |||
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"Reading down through this thread made me wonder why hasn't the term NSA been mentioned! Should we change it to No Judgement Attached? People meeting up to swing IMO should be open and honest and upfront other than that it's all good. Why they are here is their own business....no body should have to justify their presence on this site to another member Are we talking about justifying being here to other members, or talking about being honest to the person we profess to love so much we cannot bear to be without them? Surely a question is would they want to be with a partner who is cheating? Surely they should be allowed that choice? To other members here...end of. People's personal life is their own business. Be honest on your profile and it's an informed decision on who chooses to interact with them beyond that point. With the greatest of respect, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Others do not share it, and that is the beauty of public discussion in Forums." If you read back you will see that some do and to back that up also there are a lot of married men and women on this site getting action so if nobody agreed with me this thread wouldn't be being debated. I simply stated my opinion on a thread for open discussion as did you. I am not telling you that nobody agrees with what you are saying as that would not be factual... people disagree about issue's all the time, this is no different...merely opinions, not personal...that is what the forum's are for | |||
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"I hate the whole "don't judge me" bollox. I judge people who are racists and I judge people who are homophobic. Is that wrong? If Paul down the local hates black people should I just shrug and say "Ah, can't judge Paul for that, sure I don't know the reasons why he hates black people." Fuck that. Paul's a cunt and the reaon's for why Paul hates black people isn't going to change that. The same with cheaters. " Well said. | |||
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"I hate the whole "don't judge me" bollox. I judge people who are racists and I judge people who are homophobic. Is that wrong? If Paul down the local hates black people should I just shrug and say "Ah, can't judge Paul for that, sure I don't know the reasons why he hates black people." Fuck that. Paul's a cunt and the reaon's for why Paul hates black people isn't going to change that. This yep The same with cheaters. " | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... Shouldn't any decisions be made by both partners though? If you love them that much do they not deserve a choice? Surely they should be able to choose if they accept the situation just as the person choosing to go elsewhere has made their choice? Not everyone has such openness in their relationships.... The majority of attached people I've been with have all brought up the ideas of swinging to their partners and their reactions were anything but favourable..... " Well said, from an attached male! | |||
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"My wife has strong opinions on this topic. To her cheating is a marriage ending action. Emotional cheating is the worst of the worst to her. She could forgive me sleeping with someone (eventually (possibly)) but if I had an affair and loved someone else it would kill her. Or she would kill me more likely. People who cheat are not low life's. They are not scum. They can be lonely people who have suffered abuse or neglect. They can be prisoners of circumstance. A sick spouse. Or a spouse who has no interest in sex And where do you draw the line. Is flirting cheating ? Or is it physical contact ? What about intent? If a spouse wants to cheat but gets stood up?" As an attached male on hear, all I can say from my experience is that people cheat cause they are missing something from the partner! What that is varies. But they do it so they don't cause emotional upset to there partners | |||
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"Cant be arsed reading the thread; men wont care if the woman is attached cos all they want is a ride, whereas women can be far more picky so view attached men as vermin" Wrong. Most women are attracted to attached men who are in a happy relationship. Attraction doesn't mean they want to have sex with them.they can easily picture him in a relationship with themselves. If she can put up him so could I | |||
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"My wife has strong opinions on this topic. To her cheating is a marriage ending action. Emotional cheating is the worst of the worst to her. She could forgive me sleeping with someone (eventually (prossibly)) but if I had an affair and loved someone else it would kill her. Or she would kill me more likely. People who cheat are not low life's. They are not scum. They can be lonely people who have suffered abuse or neglect. They can be prisoners of circumstance. A sick spouse. Or a spouse who has no interest in sex And where do you draw the line. Is flirting cheating ? Or is it physical contact ? What about intent? If a spouse wants to cheat but gets stood up? As an attached male on hear, all I can say from my experience is that people cheat cause they are missing something from the partner! What that is varies. But they do it so they don't cause emotional upset to there partners " So they get to choose to have sex elsewhere and their partner doesn't get to choose whether they accept it or not? That sound like a good way to treat someone you care about?? | |||
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"I hate the whole "don't judge me" bollox. I judge people who are racists and I judge people who are homophobic. Is that wrong? If Paul down the local hates black people should I just shrug and say "Ah, can't judge Paul for that, sure I don't know the reasons why he hates black people." Fuck that. Paul's a cunt and the reaon's for why Paul hates black people isn't going to change that. The same with cheaters. " I fail to follow your logic. While you're entitled to your opinion that cheating is wrong, it's a bit far fetched to compare 'cheaters' with racists and homophobes. The two latter groups are generally feeling superior and/or are hatred filled against people of other race or because of their sexual orientation, while being such is in itself is appalling but not illegal however discrimination or acting upon it is. Not reacting sensibly when such occurs makes you a bystander. Now going back on 'cheaters' you may argue that 'cheaters' disrespect their partners, but that might not necessarily be the case. So you might have your own opinion on cheating and condemn it, but it's not down to you to judge them as it is not of your business especially when you don't know the circumstances. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home." A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. | |||
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"Cant be arsed reading the thread; men wont care if the woman is attached cos all they want is a ride, whereas women can be far more picky so view attached men as vermin" . Not true... have met a few ladies who had 'single' profile, but were Married and they preferred Married guys as they didn't run back to their mates to brag about 'their conquest'! The married guys had to keep their mouth shut, no bragging, etc etc.... hence more discreet! A few local ladies refused to meet me as the single guys they had met told other guys, who were then contacting them because they told other guys about them! One lady was approached in a supermarket by a guy she'd never met introducing himself as a friend of a guy she'd met! He was with the guy she had met! She left the supermarket in tears!! | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. " So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty??" N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. " | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. " No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. | |||
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"Cant be arsed reading the thread; men wont care if the woman is attached cos all they want is a ride, whereas women can be far more picky so view attached men as vermin . Not true... have met a few ladies who had 'single' profile, but were Married and they preferred Married guys as they didn't run back to their mates to brag about 'their conquest'! The married guys had to keep their mouth shut, no bragging, etc etc.... hence more discreet! A few local ladies refused to meet me as the single guys they had met told other guys, who were then contacting them because they told other guys about them! One lady was approached in a supermarket by a guy she'd never met introducing himself as a friend of a guy she'd met! He was with the guy she had met! She left the supermarket in tears!!" | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'." Their profile, their business. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. Their profile, their business." Of course they can describe themselves as what they want, but they are just not honest. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. Their profile, their business. Of course they can describe themselves as what they want, but they are just not honest. " Everybody on fab is 100% honest on their profiles! This is an adult site, people have written up how they view themselves but that is their prerogative on their own profile. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. Their profile, their business. Of course they can describe themselves as what they want, but they are just not honest. " They might not be honest with their partners which is none of your business but they are upfront on their profile. That leaves you with the choice to meet them or not. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. Their profile, their business. Of course they can describe themselves as what they want, but they are just not honest. They might not be honest with their partners which is none of your business but they are upfront on their profile. That leaves you with the choice to meet them or not. " Like we said. A selectively honest person. | |||
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"What is really funny are the number of cheating people on here who say they are 'honest' in their profile. Tell that honest bit to the partner back home. A debate on the forum's is neutral and opinions are just that, each to their own not all will agree hence the debate. When you resort to pointing out what is on people's profiles that is making it personal but just says that you have lost the argument when all you are doing is being repetitive and making it personal. So how does it work then? Selective honesty?? N.S.A. People's lives outside of fab are their own business. Why they are here is their own business. No problem. Just leave out the word 'honest'. Their profile, their business. Of course they can describe themselves as what they want, but they are just not honest. They might not be honest with their partners which is none of your business but they are upfront on their profile. That leaves you with the choice to meet them or not. " I agree. | |||
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"Cheaters are lowlives in my eyes. Spineless. And the ppl who cheat with them aren't much better. Selfish. As a lot of the posts here show Gosh.... Judgement much... Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship so I think that comment is unfair and uncalled for... Marriage isn't so black and white Ye I judge ppl that I see doing what I think are shitty things. We all do And that part of marriage is black and white actually So you've been married and can speak from experience I was involved in many faithful relationships that lasted many years.its not so unusual No its not...I was too for over 20 yrs completely faithful! However...you don't know what goes on in each individuals relationships! Some don't get the affection they desire, some don't get the sex or kink or for whatever reason but still love that person dearly and would not want to be without them... Or hurt them...so their logic is what the eyes don't see! It might not work for you but it's not fair to make such assumptions about other people'srelationships.... That's just another way of wording what I said really,that they are spineless and selfish,just depends on your point of view Points of view....ammmm If a couple swing some people don't see that as being the norm they see it as warped and strange that a man would let his partner kiss let alone fuck another man let alone couples who meet separately but thankfully not everyone is so closed minded! They aren't in your boat your not in theirs! Comparing swinging too cheating You're on wrong site No I'm comparing other people's points of view!! Not mine... That's not a point of view that should be aired here on a swing site,that swinging is warped, because we all know that what happens between consenting adults is perfectly fine don't we??? Whereas cheaters hurt their nonconsenting other halves They are only hurt if they find out about it.... You have your views I have mine! I don't judge those attached people who for whatever reason are on the site! As I said there is lots of grey in a relationship...not just black and white! They are only hurt if they find out? So are we saying it is okay to do it and not tell them?? To take away their choice of what they will accept while a cheat makes the choice of both doing what they want, and saying that their partner must accept it? Okay...." Not everyone has perfect lives/relationship like yours where both partners consent to go swinging or both partners have kinks they want to explore... Your comments are repetitive and I've said my bit I'm done! Happy NSA swinging | |||
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