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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo " Why do you say that? | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that?" Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up " just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? " I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. " Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. " she never said she was raped, she couldn't remember anything as she was d*unk so why the fuck should she go to jail | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up " Now if she has proven that these allegations were false then yes of course action must be taken but being found innocent doesnt prove that just means there was sufficient doubt to find him guilty. worse case of she says he says where lives are destroyed ... all he can do now is live day by day | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. she never said she was raped, she couldn't remember anything as she was d*unk so why the fuck should she go to jail" Iam obviously not up to date with the case so. My understanding was that he was accused of rape | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. " The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye " They do, how many rape cases actually end in conviction? Most have no "evidence" which is why most women who have been assaulted don't come forward, because they are gonna be made feel like they are liars.... | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye They do, how many rape cases actually end in conviction? Most have no "evidence" which is why most women who have been assaulted don't come forward, because they are gonna be made feel like they are liars.... " Sadly if they don't come forward then a conviction can't be made to begin with. I do somewhat understand you but i just personally don't believe the justice system and media side with them. Nobody wants to see a rapist getting away with it. The justice system just has too many loopholes etc | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye They do, how many rape cases actually end in conviction? Most have no "evidence" which is why most women who have been assaulted don't come forward, because they are gonna be made feel like they are liars.... Sadly if they don't come forward then a conviction can't be made to begin with. I do somewhat understand you but i just personally don't believe the justice system and media side with them. Nobody wants to see a rapist getting away with it. The justice system just has too many loopholes etc " By accusing a girl of lying you are siding with the rapist. whether you mean to or not! | |||
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"Who's the bloke? Not that it matters but am I supposed to recognise the name? Soccer player was ok " Ah that'll explain why the name means nothing to me, thanks ![]() | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. " OMG. ![]() | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. OMG. ![]() Don't be shocked. If the girl is ever found to have lied then she should be locked up as her lies have ruined a man's life. If she lied..... If | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. OMG. ![]() You're disgusting. | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. OMG. ![]() OK i take it back. Women that lie n ruin ppls lives deserve to get away with it. How's that? | |||
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"I do agree if a girl lies about a man raping her she should be charged with timewasting..ive never heard about this case tho so couldn't comment on that in particular" Of course she should (if she's proven to have lied) | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. " Being found innocent doesn't mean the judge thinks she lied. People seem to have some trouble understanding the justice system. An innocent verdict can simply mean it is felt that there is not enough evidence for a conviction. Don't fuck someone that is to d*unk to give proper consent, not even appropriate in a relationship never mind with a stranger | |||
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"Not guilty doesn't equal innocent. There needs to be alot of evidence to even get a case to court so I've no idea how it got that far to begin with ![]() Actually, in England and Wales, Not guilty DOES equal innocent in the eyes of the law. (Although in Scotland a verdict of "Not proven" may have been retuned) | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye " Please. Oh please do! ![]() | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo " If a woman is too d*unk to give consent it's rape. What decent man fucks a woman who is so d*unk she cannot speak | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. OMG. ![]() She didn't lie - She was so d*unk she couldn't remember. The police took the action against him | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Nothing was said about her lying..... there was no "evidence" the judicial system and media generally side with rapists from previous cases I have seen. The Justice system and media side with rapists? Time to get outa here before i lose all hope. Cye Please. Oh please do! ![]() Aw do strangers online bother you that much? Man up ![]() | |||
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"Strangers don't. Complete rude ignorant rabble rousers do." Sorry you feel that way dude. Was really hoping we could be friends ![]() | |||
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"This is very interesting.... I'm going to talk in the abstract and probably rustle a few feathers, apologies in advance. We all agree that rape is terribleso don't get on a high horse and try and label me as a pig... I'm just being objective I'm going to make an argument that a lot of women are primed by the media to be oversensitive to "rape culture". There is no culture of rape, that is a ridiculous concept, we have a drinking culture in Ireland and by comparison we certainly don't have a rape culture. See my post yesterday about Louise O Neill (churnalist) and her obsession with this subject and all things."first world feminism"... Much of it is confirmation bias. My view on these cases... And I know there are counterarguments about fear of coming forward, confusion etc but I don't buy them...if I was raped my number one priority would be to get medical EVIDENCE to support a trial and bring the fucker down hard, second priority may be violent revenge, who knows. " What type of Evidence in your opinion would prove you have been raped? | |||
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"This is very interesting.... I'm going to talk in the abstract and probably rustle a few feathers, apologies in advance. We all agree that rape is terribleso don't get on a high horse and try and label me as a pig... I'm just being objective I'm going to make an argument that a lot of women are primed by the media to be oversensitive to "rape culture". There is no culture of rape, that is a ridiculous concept, we have a drinking culture in Ireland and by comparison we certainly don't have a rape culture. See my post yesterday about Louise O Neill (churnalist) and her obsession with this subject and all things."first world feminism"... Much of it is confirmation bias. My view on these cases... And I know there are counterarguments about fear of coming forward, confusion etc but I don't buy them...if I was raped my number one priority would be to get medical EVIDENCE to support a trial and bring the fucker down hard, second priority may be violent revenge, who knows. What type of Evidence in your opinion would prove you have been raped? " For him, a sore arse I'd imagine !! Just a light hearted take on a serious subject ![]() | |||
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"I know it's a serious subject was just wondering " Sorry, I know you were serious I was talking about my response | |||
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"Vaginal injury, signs of struggle, marks on the body, semen etc. Standard protocol I imagine" Rape is not necessarily roughed up sex.... injuries are not always there.... and as said before the girl was too d*unk to remember let alone give consent.... a lot of people don't go to get medical attention until it's too late after being sexually assaulted.. | |||
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"Vaginal injury, signs of struggle, marks on the body, semen etc. Standard protocol I imagine Rape is not necessarily roughed up sex.... injuries are not always there.... and as said before the girl was too d*unk to remember let alone give consent.... a lot of people don't go to get medical attention until it's too late after being sexually assaulted.. " BUT Why would they be late for something so important? Secondly you are casting judgement, I know nothing of the case, was there a text as mentioned? My problem is... And it's not an attack... Just a point.... you and your demographic are programmed to assume he is guilty....after all one in four man are rapists and one in five girls have been raped... Right? I agree on the violent struggle bit. | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? I understand what you mean and i agree to some extent but if the judge feels she lied then it's his responsibility to give her time behind bars. Being found innocent doesn't mean the judge thinks she lied. People seem to have some trouble understanding the justice system. An innocent verdict can simply mean it is felt that there is not enough evidence for a conviction. Don't fuck someone that is to d*unk to give proper consent, not even appropriate in a relationship never mind with a stranger " ![]() | |||
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"Vaginal injury, signs of struggle, marks on the body, semen etc. Standard protocol I imagine Rape is not necessarily roughed up sex.... injuries are not always there.... and as said before the girl was too d*unk to remember let alone give consent.... a lot of people don't go to get medical attention until it's too late after being sexually assaulted.. BUT Why would they be late for something so important? Secondly you are casting judgement, I know nothing of the case, was there a text as mentioned? My problem is... And it's not an attack... Just a point.... you and your demographic are programmed to assume he is guilty....after all one in four man are rapists and one in five girls have been raped... Right? I agree on the violent struggle bit. " Because a lot of women are ashamed after something like that happens..... you wouldn't understand that.... and not an attack..... lol yeah right. "You and your demographic" | |||
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"This is very interesting.... I'm going to talk in the abstract and probably rustle a few feathers, apologies in advance. We all agree that rape is terribleso don't get on a high horse and try and label me as a pig... I'm just being objective I'm going to make an argument that a lot of women are primed by the media to be oversensitive to "rape culture". There is no culture of rape, that is a ridiculous concept, we have a drinking culture in Ireland and by comparison we certainly don't have a rape culture. See my post yesterday about Louise O Neill (churnalist) and her obsession with this subject and all things."first world feminism"... Much of it is confirmation bias. My view on these cases... And I know there are counterarguments about fear of coming forward, confusion etc but I don't buy them...if I was raped my number one priority would be to get medical EVIDENCE to support a trial and bring the fucker down hard, second priority may be violent revenge, who knows. " Medical evidence alone will not get a conviction, well not in a case where both parties are known to one another anyway. I had a lengthy response written but now I can't be arsed & need wine ![]() | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo By accusing a girl of lying you are siding with the rapist. whether you mean to or not! " you are not siding with "the rapist" if the guy is not a rapist though are you? | |||
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"Vaginal injury, signs of struggle, marks on the body, semen etc. Standard protocol I imagine" But what's to stop anyone saying she liked rough sex? Rape isn't always violent either I'd say most women don't struggle out of fear. Just seems that media and people's definition of what rape actually is are cloudy therefore can be manipulated in either direction. | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved " I remember the day the text came out in court. I knew it was gonna be impossible to hold a conviction against him. | |||
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"Vaginal injury, signs of struggle, marks on the body, semen etc. Standard protocol I imagine But what's to stop anyone saying she liked rough sex? Rape isn't always violent either I'd say most women don't struggle out of fear. Just seems that media and people's definition of what rape actually is are cloudy therefore can be manipulated in either direction. " The only thing that matters is the legal definition. I agree that the media are clouding the definition. | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved " Her career was ruined? She was a waitress no? His CAREER was ruined she probably lost her job. | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved Her career was ruined? She was a waitress no? His CAREER was ruined she probably lost her job." He wasn't a fucking doctor, he only kicked a fucking football for god sake ![]() | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved Her career was ruined? She was a waitress no? His CAREER was ruined she probably lost her job." And he missed out on Wales' first major tournament in 50 years | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved Her career was ruined? She was a waitress no? His CAREER was ruined she probably lost her job." I didn't say her career was ruined ? ![]() | |||
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"Interesting case tbh. If he's found to be innocent then she should receive jail time imo Why do you say that? Because if he's found to be innocent then she has ruined the man's life with her lies. Those allegations never go away. She should be locked up just because he was found innnocent doesnt necesserily mean she lied?? " Whoa ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It's been a difficult vase and he served time for it but kept fighting even after his release to clear his name . During the appeal the case fell apart when the text she sent bragging about it came to light and also that she had done the exact same thing the week before and the week after the alleged offence ( but with "unknown" men ) . No one will ever know the real truth but I doubt her life has been Rosie since her name was released and his career was ruined . Hopefully some lessons are learnt by all involved Her career was ruined? She was a waitress no? His CAREER was ruined she probably lost her job. He wasn't a fucking doctor, he only kicked a fucking football for god sake ![]() Jesus wept | |||
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"Just can't help wondering will his former employers do anything to right the wrong they inflicted on him and what do the the people who hounded him out of the one club that were willing to take him on until proven guilty have to say now?" They didn't do anything wrong. They acted appropriately after their employee was found guilty of rape. | |||
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"Just can't help wondering will his former employers do anything to right the wrong they inflicted on him and what do the the people who hounded him out of the one club that were willing to take him on until proven guilty have to say now? They didn't do anything wrong. They acted appropriately after their employee was found guilty of rape." But a wrong was still done. | |||
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"Just can't help wondering will his former employers do anything to right the wrong they inflicted on him and what do the the people who hounded him out of the one club that were willing to take him on until proven guilty have to say now? They didn't do anything wrong. They acted appropriately after their employee was found guilty of rape." They cancelled his contract before he was found guilty the first time | |||
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"Just can't help wondering will his former employers do anything to right the wrong they inflicted on him and what do the the people who hounded him out of the one club that were willing to take him on until proven guilty have to say now? They didn't do anything wrong. They acted appropriately after their employee was found guilty of rape. They cancelled his contract before he was found guilty the first time " Just looked at it on the BBC sport website. It says he was found guilty on 20/4/2012 & released from contract with them on 30/5/2012... | |||
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"To all the people chastising Evans on here he was rightly in my opinion found not guilty yet you still wish to demonise him instead of the girl who "couldn't remember" (cough bullshit) the argument I have heard on a lot of social media is if she is done for causing his life to be turned upside down it will deter others from coming forward with real rapes,so it seems it is ok for a guy to be a victim of a miscarriage of justice but not a female? Equality rules so long as some are more equal than others eh?" ![]() | |||
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"To all the people chastising Evans on here he was rightly in my opinion found not guilty yet you still wish to demonise him instead of the girl who "couldn't remember" (cough bullshit) the argument I have heard on a lot of social media is if she is done for causing his life to be turned upside down it will deter others from coming forward with real rapes,so it seems it is ok for a guy to be a victim of a miscarriage of justice but not a female? Equality rules so long as some are more equal than others eh?" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat" You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation?" In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. " so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know." Just to add a little we all know that rape is a heinous crime and should never happen but a lot of rape victims I would guess have gone on to live pretty decent lives and more power to them for doing so but 100% of the guys who are dead over the false allegations did not go on to have nice lives. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know. Just to add a little we all know that rape is a heinous crime and should never happen but a lot of rape victims I would guess have gone on to live pretty decent lives and more power to them for doing so but 100% of the guys who are dead over the false allegations did not go on to have nice lives." You might want to educate yourself before you make ridiculous speculations. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know. Just to add a little we all know that rape is a heinous crime and should never happen but a lot of rape victims I would guess have gone on to live pretty decent lives and more power to them for doing so but 100% of the guys who are dead over the false allegations did not go on to have nice lives. You might want to educate yourself before you make ridiculous speculations. " Ridiculous speculation? I am quoting on factual happenings.Men have been killed or taken their own lives over allegations of rape,women have gone on record saying they have not let the fact they have been raped be what defines them and have led amazing lives after the fact, so please educate me as to where I am engaged in as you put it " ridiculous speculations" I await your answer with baited breath. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know. Just to add a little we all know that rape is a heinous crime and should never happen but a lot of rape victims I would guess have gone on to live pretty decent lives and more power to them for doing so but 100% of the guys who are dead over the false allegations did not go on to have nice lives. You might want to educate yourself before you make ridiculous speculations. Ridiculous speculation? I am quoting on factual happenings.Men have been killed or taken their own lives over allegations of rape,women have gone on record saying they have not let the fact they have been raped be what defines them and have led amazing lives after the fact, so please educate me as to where I am engaged in as you put it " ridiculous speculations" I await your answer with baited breath." No need. I deal with the facts and statistics, if you don't want to be educated then there is nothing I can do about it. | |||
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"I am aware that this is only my opinion but I'm gonna say it anyway... I'd rather 10 men be wrongly accused, and later found not quilty, than have one rapist walking the streets. I'll get my coat You are entitled to your opinion same as all on here,so in essence you would rather 10 males serve time for something they have not done as per Ched Evans than 1 guy walking the streets as a rapist,it may seem ok to you right now but put your brother/son/dad in the position of 3 of those males locked up and having their lives stained for so long as they live and losing their jobs possibly homes and friends/families along with their liberty does it then seem like a fair exchange? What about the young lad stabbed to death over a false rape claim recently or the guys who have committed suicide due to their lives being turned to shit over false allegations is it still ok for your 10 v 1 situation? In one word, Yes. Speaking about the Irish courts only for a minute, the ratio of cases being reported is 1/10 and only 7% secures a conviction, in essence only 1 in every 100 victims will see their attacker pay, so I stand by what I said. so you have no qualms about the poor young lad stabbed to death over a false allegation and you have no problem with the countless lives ended/destroyed by false allegations?that's good to know. Just to add a little we all know that rape is a heinous crime and should never happen but a lot of rape victims I would guess have gone on to live pretty decent lives and more power to them for doing so but 100% of the guys who are dead over the false allegations did not go on to have nice lives. You might want to educate yourself before you make ridiculous speculations. Ridiculous speculation? I am quoting on factual happenings.Men have been killed or taken their own lives over allegations of rape,women have gone on record saying they have not let the fact they have been raped be what defines them and have led amazing lives after the fact, so please educate me as to where I am engaged in as you put it " ridiculous speculations" I await your answer with baited breath. No need. I deal with the facts and statistics, if you don't want to be educated then there is nothing I can do about it. " so you are aware of each and EVERY case of false allegations and their and outcomes you are in touch with EVERY victim of rape or would it be that you tried and failed to push a point without actually having the statistics you purport to have backing you up? I am not saying you have an agenda but by saying I have used ridiculous speculation without then showing what I have allegedly speculated about you come across (to me) as just another SJW who sees every man as a potentisl rapist and every woman as a potential victim.If only we had a way of checking my RIDICULOUS SPECULATIONS some kind of INTERconnected NETwork of computers that have access to FACTS and figures of people killing themselves or being killed due to false allegations I could be vindicated,this INTERconnected NETwork could also be used to lets say hmmmmm GOOGLE stories about rape victims who have themselves said they have become stronger after being raped and refused to let the actions against them define them. Perhaps then my RIDICULOUS SPECULATIONS could be seen as not speculation but FACT. SO my point stands that your original post on this particular thread about the 10 v 1 is an opinion you are indeed entitled to but in my opinion a wrong one. | |||
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