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"Light a candle folks  ".. : always help out there and very few problems that can't be fixed... | |||
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"Yep definitely will yosser !!! Hopefully we will see a decrease in deaths by suicide in the very near future "I agree. We have lost too many. | |||
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"Things can get better, and if you give them a chance, they usually do "I've been waiting for ages for things to get better. Sometimes it seems like they never will. | |||
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"Things can get better, and if you give them a chance, they usually do "i still suffer now but not to the same extent its bloody horrible feeling empty inside i had a breakdown i had no control of myself did loads of silly things this thread has touched my heart strings i lost everything my wife my home and most of all my confidence and dignity i put my family through trauma they dont deserve but you have got no control what happens when your that bad the help that is offered is terriblebyou do a test on a computour to see see if your deppressed or not thats terrible | |||
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"Im fine Look beyond the laughter the jokes the messing around. Look into the eyes. It's said to be the window to the soul and if you look you will see a dead stare ,a black hole that all joy and happiness have been eradicated. Living on the edge of a fine line between numbness and despair daily takes its toll. The only escape from this hellish cycle is sleep. However this nocturnal bliss from dreams sweet kiss is only rewarded to you after a fierce and draining battle between mind and soul . It doesn't matter which side wins the end result still takes its toll on you . The scars of battle are deep and twisted mutilations that are invisible to anyone else yet just as painful as wounds of the flesh . No one knows what goes on inside this sick and and diseased mind. Sure people know your upset but they do not and cannot know the crushing isolated painstaking world where you are the sole inhabitant. You do not leave anyone get close. Your defensive walls go up to keep society out for both your and their protection . Your functional that's all you can be. Routine keeps you someway sane and stops you from thinking ,stops the battle cry that is screaming inside your consciousness. A blood curdling spine chilling sound more unnerving than anything you have ever expierenced yet you expierence it on a daily basis. Abandon all hope ye who enter here because in this mental prison cell, in this solitary confinement there is no early release. There is no reprieve, no pardon by the govner at the 11th hour. There are indeed 7 levels of hell ,but not in some afterlife. This torment, this suffering constant agony is forever on going and through life's ironic twist it isn't thrust upon the guilty or deserving . Tormented daily exhausted from battling a never ending war that cannot ever be won . This isn't life this is survival . Light many a candle my children Depression and suicide are the scourge of our time. Mental health treatment needs to be greatly improved in this country " omg you talk so much sense you described that so well i try crack a joke with people always smiling to hide how i really feel i dont open up to nobody its a total nitemare well done mate you have got loads of intelligence believe me total respect to you | |||
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"Im fine Look beyond the laughter the jokes the messing around. Look into the eyes. It's said to be the window to the soul and if you look you will see a dead stare ,a black hole that all joy and happiness have been eradicated. Living on the edge of a fine line between numbness and despair daily takes its toll. The only escape from this hellish cycle is sleep. However this nocturnal bliss from dreams sweet kiss is only rewarded to you after a fierce and draining battle between mind and soul . It doesn't matter which side wins the end result still takes its toll on you . The scars of battle are deep and twisted mutilations that are invisible to anyone else yet just as painful as wounds of the flesh . No one knows what goes on inside this sick and and diseased mind. Sure people know your upset but they do not and cannot know the crushing isolated painstaking world where you are the sole inhabitant. You do not leave anyone get close. Your defensive walls go up to keep society out for both your and their protection . Your functional that's all you can be. Routine keeps you someway sane and stops you from thinking ,stops the battle cry that is screaming inside your consciousness. A blood curdling spine chilling sound more unnerving than anything you have ever expierenced yet you expierence it on a daily basis. Abandon all hope ye who enter here because in this mental prison cell, in this solitary confinement there is no early release. There is no reprieve, no pardon by the govner at the 11th hour. There are indeed 7 levels of hell ,but not in some afterlife. This torment, this suffering constant agony is forever on going and through life's ironic twist it isn't thrust upon the guilty or deserving . Tormented daily exhausted from battling a never ending war that cannot ever be won . This isn't life this is survival . Light many a candle my children Depression and suicide are the scourge of our time. Mental health treatment needs to be greatly improved in this country omg you talk so much sense you described that so well i try crack a joke with people always smiling to hide how i really feel i dont open up to nobody its a total nitemare well done mate you have got loads of intelligence believe me total respect to you" Its the Gospel according to Connie my child We all have our demons to fight. I wrote that when I was fighting mine | |||
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"Im fine Look beyond the laughter the jokes the messing around. Look into the eyes. It's said to be the window to the soul and if you look you will see a dead stare ,a black hole that all joy and happiness have been eradicated. Living on the edge of a fine line between numbness and despair daily takes its toll. The only escape from this hellish cycle is sleep. However this nocturnal bliss from dreams sweet kiss is only rewarded to you after a fierce and draining battle between mind and soul . It doesn't matter which side wins the end result still takes its toll on you . The scars of battle are deep and twisted mutilations that are invisible to anyone else yet just as painful as wounds of the flesh . No one knows what goes on inside this sick and and diseased mind. Sure people know your upset but they do not and cannot know the crushing isolated painstaking world where you are the sole inhabitant. You do not leave anyone get close. Your defensive walls go up to keep society out for both your and their protection . Your functional that's all you can be. Routine keeps you someway sane and stops you from thinking ,stops the battle cry that is screaming inside your consciousness. A blood curdling spine chilling sound more unnerving than anything you have ever expierenced yet you expierence it on a daily basis. Abandon all hope ye who enter here because in this mental prison cell, in this solitary confinement there is no early release. There is no reprieve, no pardon by the govner at the 11th hour. There are indeed 7 levels of hell ,but not in some afterlife. This torment, this suffering constant agony is forever on going and through life's ironic twist it isn't thrust upon the guilty or deserving . Tormented daily exhausted from battling a never ending war that cannot ever be won . This isn't life this is survival . Light many a candle my children Depression and suicide are the scourge of our time. Mental health treatment needs to be greatly improved in this country omg you talk so much sense you described that so well i try crack a joke with people always smiling to hide how i really feel i dont open up to nobody its a total nitemare well done mate you have got loads of intelligence believe me total respect to you Its the Gospel according to Connie my child We all have our demons to fight. I wrote that when I was fighting mine " well connie my lad i bow down and kiss your hand | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. " Through my work in the parish i have observed that the hse only really push pills anti depressents and anti anxiety pills to try and medicate the issue rather than put supports in place to fully deal with the problem head on A cardinal sin in my eyes | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. " after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. Through my work in the parish i have observed that the hse only really push pills anti depressents and anti anxiety pills to try and medicate the issue rather than put supports in place to fully deal with the problem head on A cardinal sin in my eyes" correct | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace " And unfortunately your story is the rule, not the exception. Triage nurses in A&E are not trained or capable of dealing with suicidal patients. Yet they are the first point of contact in most cases. People with severe suicidal ideation get told to go home and sleep it off, as if they were d*unk. The HSE is built on the medical model, a pill for every ill. Their psychiatrists if you are lucky enough to see one, will see you for 5 or 10 mins and prescribe drugs. That's not even enough time for an effective assessment, let alone a clinical treatment. | |||
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I've been waiting for ages for things to get better. Sometimes it seems like they never will. "it takes a very long time sometimes you dont x | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace And unfortunately your story is the rule, not the exception. Triage nurses in A&E are not trained or capable of dealing with suicidal patients. Yet they are the first point of contact in most cases. People with severe suicidal ideation get told to go home and sleep it off, as if they were d*unk. The HSE is built on the medical model, a pill for every ill. Their psychiatrists if you are lucky enough to see one, will see you for 5 or 10 mins and prescribe drugs. That's not even enough time for an effective assessment, let alone a clinical treatment. " that is the crux of the issue everything you say is true iv both seen it and been on the reviving end of it. The health service is as you say based on the medical model rather than actually dealing with the depression ideation or the intent of suicide We need mental health specialist teams at every hospital However that would be costly so unfortunately will not be implemented unless there is public uproar and the ministers feel its the only way theyll keep their seats next election | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace And unfortunately your story is the rule, not the exception. Triage nurses in A&E are not trained or capable of dealing with suicidal patients. Yet they are the first point of contact in most cases. People with severe suicidal ideation get told to go home and sleep it off, as if they were d*unk. The HSE is built on the medical model, a pill for every ill. Their psychiatrists if you are lucky enough to see one, will see you for 5 or 10 mins and prescribe drugs. That's not even enough time for an effective assessment, let alone a clinical treatment. that is the crux of the issue everything you say is true iv both seen it and been on the reviving end of it. The health service is as you say based on the medical model rather than actually dealing with the depression ideation or the intent of suicide We need mental health specialist teams at every hospital However that would be costly so unfortunately will not be implemented unless there is public uproar and the ministers feel its the only way theyll keep their seats next election " some people cant open up face to face with a professional its so hard the only person i can talk too is probably a girl i know but they dont know what to say | |||
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"Im fine Look beyond the laughter the jokes the messing around. Look into the eyes. It's said to be the window to the soul and if you look you will see a dead stare ,a black hole that all joy and happiness have been eradicated. Living on the edge of a fine line between numbness and despair daily takes its toll. The only escape from this hellish cycle is sleep. However this nocturnal bliss from dreams sweet kiss is only rewarded to you after a fierce and draining battle between mind and soul . It doesn't matter which side wins the end result still takes its toll on you . The scars of battle are deep and twisted mutilations that are invisible to anyone else yet just as painful as wounds of the flesh . No one knows what goes on inside this sick and and diseased mind. Sure people know your upset but they do not and cannot know the crushing isolated painstaking world where you are the sole inhabitant. You do not leave anyone get close. Your defensive walls go up to keep society out for both your and their protection . Your functional that's all you can be. Routine keeps you someway sane and stops you from thinking ,stops the battle cry that is screaming inside your consciousness. A blood curdling spine chilling sound more unnerving than anything you have ever expierenced yet you expierence it on a daily basis. Abandon all hope ye who enter here because in this mental prison cell, in this solitary confinement there is no early release. There is no reprieve, no pardon by the govner at the 11th hour. There are indeed 7 levels of hell ,but not in some afterlife. This torment, this suffering constant agony is forever on going and through life's ironic twist it isn't thrust upon the guilty or deserving . Tormented daily exhausted from battling a never ending war that cannot ever be won . This isn't life this is survival . Light many a candle my children Depression and suicide are the scourge of our time. Mental health treatment needs to be greatly improved in this country " Powerful, beautiful, true words spoken there Father...well said..... | |||
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"Having suffered with severe depression and trying to kill himself on several occasions years back there should be more awareness to this its one of the worst diseases out there trust me" | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. " It's more the stigma attached than anything else, I have lost a few loved family members to suicide and it is horrible, been close to it myself a few times but managed to claw my way back, the way this country looks at suicide and doesn't talk about it is half the problem, I have to say I got superb service from my local gp and HSE services when they were required...... | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace And unfortunately your story is the rule, not the exception. Triage nurses in A&E are not trained or capable of dealing with suicidal patients. Yet they are the first point of contact in most cases. People with severe suicidal ideation get told to go home and sleep it off, as if they were d*unk. The HSE is built on the medical model, a pill for every ill. Their psychiatrists if you are lucky enough to see one, will see you for 5 or 10 mins and prescribe drugs. That's not even enough time for an effective assessment, let alone a clinical treatment. that is the crux of the issue everything you say is true iv both seen it and been on the reviving end of it. The health service is as you say based on the medical model rather than actually dealing with the depression ideation or the intent of suicide We need mental health specialist teams at every hospital However that would be costly so unfortunately will not be implemented unless there is public uproar and the ministers feel its the only way theyll keep their seats next election some people cant open up face to face with a professional its so hard the only person i can talk too is probably a girl i know but they dont know what to say " It requires building a relationship and that takes time. There is no quick fix solution, no magic bullet. It takes building a trusting relationship with the right skilled person. The HSE do not want to fund this. They are now outsourcing all this to Pieata House, a brilliant organization that's already woefully under funded. | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. It's more the stigma attached than anything else, I have lost a few loved family members to suicide and it is horrible, been close to it myself a few times but managed to claw my way back, the way this country looks at suicide and doesn't talk about it is half the problem, I have to say I got superb service from my local gp and HSE services when they were required......" your so lucky i never did ive suffered for many a year now xx | |||
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"The government and the HSE don't care about suicide, or suicidal people. Unfortunately things won't really get better, until some political will develops to deal with helping vulnerable people. Dealing with suicidal people and seeing the pathetic way the HSE and some medical professionals treat them, makes me so frustrated. Days like today help lessen the stigma people feel, but it's only a step towards dealing with an issue that kills more people in this country, than road deaths and drug addiction combined. after trying to kill myself i got treated like shit at hospital nobody wanted to talk to me just think people attention seek when i attempted it i went far away todo it so nobody would know but police helicopter found me to be treated that badly is a disgrace And unfortunately your story is the rule, not the exception. Triage nurses in A&E are not trained or capable of dealing with suicidal patients. Yet they are the first point of contact in most cases. People with severe suicidal ideation get told to go home and sleep it off, as if they were d*unk. The HSE is built on the medical model, a pill for every ill. Their psychiatrists if you are lucky enough to see one, will see you for 5 or 10 mins and prescribe drugs. That's not even enough time for an effective assessment, let alone a clinical treatment. that is the crux of the issue everything you say is true iv both seen it and been on the reviving end of it. The health service is as you say based on the medical model rather than actually dealing with the depression ideation or the intent of suicide We need mental health specialist teams at every hospital However that would be costly so unfortunately will not be implemented unless there is public uproar and the ministers feel its the only way theyll keep their seats next election some people cant open up face to face with a professional its so hard the only person i can talk too is probably a girl i know but they dont know what to say It requires building a relationship and that takes time. There is no quick fix solution, no magic bullet. It takes building a trusting relationship with the right skilled person. The HSE do not want to fund this. They are now outsourcing all this to Pieata House, a brilliant organization that's already woefully under funded. " yeagh i know even if i did get to know the professional morei still wouldnt trust them to talk to its just a job for them no personnel connection in my eyes | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help " Unfortunately when you suffer from depression your own mind can be your own worst enemy. You truly do think and feel that although your loved ones will be upset for a bit that they will move on and have a better life without you. You feel that the only way to.stop your pain and theirs is to take yourself out of the equation. Well that's how I felt anyway | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help " That's thinking logically Usually when you reach the point of suicide you have tunnel vision you want to make the torment stop. | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help That's thinking logically Usually when you reach the point of suicide you have tunnel vision you want to make the torment stop." you dont think of anything but death you cant think of nothing else | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help Unfortunately when you suffer from depression your own mind can be your own worst enemy. You truly do think and feel that although your loved ones will be upset for a bit that they will move on and have a better life without you. You feel that the only way to.stop your pain and theirs is to take yourself out of the equation. Well that's how I felt anyway" spot on mate | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help Unfortunately when you suffer from depression your own mind can be your own worst enemy. You truly do think and feel that although your loved ones will be upset for a bit that they will move on and have a better life without you. You feel that the only way to.stop your pain and theirs is to take yourself out of the equation. Well that's how I felt anyway" Me too. I could give 100 convincing, plausible reasons why I was better off gone. | |||
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"If ppl only knew the awful devastation it leaves behind I think it might help them to think again and seek other help Unfortunately when you suffer from depression your own mind can be your own worst enemy. You truly do think and feel that although your loved ones will be upset for a bit that they will move on and have a better life without you. You feel that the only way to.stop your pain and theirs is to take yourself out of the equation. Well that's how I felt anyway Me too. I could give 100 convincing, plausible reasons why I was better off gone. " Like I said your own mind works against you to convince you that you're better of gone | |||
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"so much I could say on this thread, but then a lot of it would give away too much about me, it saddens me that the world we live in takes so much out of us every waking hour and some just can't deal with it, I have it a candle and I am not gonna dwell on it all too much tonight as it may be a bit much for me....." | |||
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"Late post but agree with everyone. This is why I take negativity and bully tactics head on, never let others make you feel less of a person because the smallest comments can have serious reproductions on your mental health, especially when they build up. Having overcome attempted suicide myself I know this for a fact. Opening up and fighting back is the only way to overcome it because there is no cure. Be proud, bold, confident and tell others how great you are until you believe it yourself, stamp on their negative judgement. People suffering depression are the strongest of us because they fight for their lives when things are up and down, every day, keep fighting "yeagh so true i used to be so outgoing and full of confidence now im a wreck | |||
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"Late post but agree with everyone. This is why I take negativity and bully tactics head on, never let others make you feel less of a person because the smallest comments can have serious reproductions on your mental health, especially when they build up. Having overcome attempted suicide myself I know this for a fact. Opening up and fighting back is the only way to overcome it because there is no cure. Be proud, bold, confident and tell others how great you are until you believe it yourself, stamp on their negative judgement. People suffering depression are the strongest of us because they fight for their lives when things are up and down, every day, keep fighting " | |||
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"Harriet Beecher Stowe wrote a beautiful quote which i think might benefit those who suffer from depression. When you get into a tight place and everything turns against you, till it seems you could not hang on a minute longer,never give up then, for that is just the time and place that the tide will turn. " | |||
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