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"We all take risks swinging regardless if its oral with or without protection...Many Std's can be passed even when condoms are in use so unless you totally refrain from sexual contact there is always a risk...Personally I dont use protection during Oral interaction with male or female and havent meet anyone or seen anyone do so... Jilly " Can't imagine not giving a woman oral pleasure | |||
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"We all take risks swinging regardless if its oral with or without protection...Many Std's can be passed even when condoms are in use so unless you totally refrain from sexual contact there is always a risk...Personally I dont use protection during Oral interaction with male or female and havent meet anyone or seen anyone do so... Jilly Can't imagine not giving a woman oral pleasure " Didnt say that I said i dont use protection during Oral not that I didnt give pleasure | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier." Unprotected anal with anyone would be risky! | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier." | |||
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"Be safe everybody always wear a hi vis vest whilst giving or recieving oral!! Ill get my coat " | |||
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"We all take risks swinging regardless if its oral with or without protection...Many Std's can be passed even when condoms are in use so unless you totally refrain from sexual contact there is always a risk...Personally I dont use protection during Oral interaction with male or female and havent meet anyone or seen anyone do so... Jilly " ....we like the way you think jilly. . | |||
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"YOU ARE NOT SUCKING MY COCK Until I put a jacket on I'm sure we've all heard this line once or twice" Never heard that one... | |||
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"YOU ARE NOT SUCKING MY COCK Until I put a jacket on I'm sure we've all heard this line once or twice Never heard that one..." ...is there something you want to tell us DH? | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier. Unprotected anal with anyone would be risky! " True...its a good way to pick up germs and catch a uninary tract infection among other things, but statistically i think gay anal sex has even higher risks....for the record ive not had anal sex with anyone, i just enjoy watching anal and sometimes double anal pornos. | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier. Unprotected anal with anyone would be risky! True...its a good way to pick up germs and catch a uninary tract infection among other things, but statistically i think gay anal sex has even higher risks...." Hense I find it strange there are so many who have no worries about giving bjs to gay or bi men and then criticise those who say they won't meet those women. | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier. Unprotected anal with anyone would be risky! True...its a good way to pick up germs and catch a uninary tract infection among other things, but statistically i think gay anal sex has even higher risks.... Hense I find it strange there are so many who have no worries about giving bjs to gay or bi men and then criticise those who say they won't meet those women." ....im sure most people wash between meets, and those who engage in gay anal sex more than likely practice safe sex. I haven't met anyone who openly criticises anyone else's lifestyle choice. Maybe best to keep those opinions private. After all, choosing not to meet someone because of their body shape, sexual orientation etc, is entirely up to individual choice. It's when you openly advertise that you won't meet fat, curvy, bi, skinny, etc...you leave yourself open to criticism. Im not saying that it's right or wrong, its just a fact. | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. " True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier. | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier." That's just a sterotype. You are on a swingers website. Do you not see the hypocrisy? | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier." You seem to really be hating peoole who participate in gay anal sex. Do you have a problem with gay people? There is Risk associated with fucking people who are fucking other people. Simple as. You can catch a STI from oral. If you want to take the risk and get regularmy tested then that's your own life choice, if you don't get tested that your own life choice too. No one on here can tell you how to conduct your own sex life, they can agree or disagree with things but ultimately it is down to each individual person to look after they sexual health. | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier. You seem to really be hating peoole who participate in gay anal sex. Do you have a problem with gay people? There is Risk associated with fucking people who are fucking other people. Simple as. You can catch a STI from oral. If you want to take the risk and get regularmy tested then that's your own life choice, if you don't get tested that your own life choice too. No one on here can tell you how to conduct your own sex life, they can agree or disagree with things but ultimately it is down to each individual person to look after they sexual health. " Wow....so let me get this right...you saying because I won't have sex with someone who actively has sex with them is hating them? I neither hate gay or bi guys nor those who enjoy sexual relations with then. Amazing how people make wild accusations on here and even more amazing how they get away with it. Of course I don't hate them...I've actually got a few good friends who are gay. I think you may need to rethink and retract that statement. | |||
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"You could say i am yeah...but i dont have a problem with with gay people, if what i wrote looks like i do then you can say the media have a problem with them...not me." Amazing how people open their mouth on here...so much 'hate' going around for apparently a fun site. | |||
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"So for all the newbies who wonder what to bring to ur first meet. You need the following- Mints Water Condoms Baby wipes ( we all have them) Hi-viz vest Cling film in case u want to lick some other un protected areas Anyone else want to add anything " GSOH | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier. You seem to really be hating peoole who participate in gay anal sex. Do you have a problem with gay people? There is Risk associated with fucking people who are fucking other people. Simple as. You can catch a STI from oral. If you want to take the risk and get regularmy tested then that's your own life choice, if you don't get tested that your own life choice too. No one on here can tell you how to conduct your own sex life, they can agree or disagree with things but ultimately it is down to each individual person to look after they sexual health. Wow....so let me get this right...you saying because I won't have sex with someone who actively has sex with them is hating them? I neither hate gay or bi guys nor those who enjoy sexual relations with then. Amazing how people make wild accusations on here and even more amazing how they get away with it. Of course I don't hate them...I've actually got a few good friends who are gay. I think you may need to rethink and retract that statement." I actually wasn't talking to you at all... so maybe you should relax. Just seemed to be a bit of "blame it on the gays" vibe to some of the replies. Just my interpretation of what was said. As has been commented he clarified that it wasn't meant that way. I won't retract anything thanks. | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it." Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. True yeah....but gay men do it more often and are generally having rougher sex so they let gay anal fall into the higher risk category...not saying they carry around more diseases, straight prostitutes in africa would be riskier. You seem to really be hating peoole who participate in gay anal sex. Do you have a problem with gay people? There is Risk associated with fucking people who are fucking other people. Simple as. You can catch a STI from oral. If you want to take the risk and get regularmy tested then that's your own life choice, if you don't get tested that your own life choice too. No one on here can tell you how to conduct your own sex life, they can agree or disagree with things but ultimately it is down to each individual person to look after they sexual health. " Completely agree... | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. Not gay or bi anal sex. Just anal. That myth ended in the 90s when the gay community really got its act together. You have less chance of catching an STI from a gay or bi man than you do a straight partner because they practice safe sex more often than straight people. That is a proven statistic. The infection rate among hetro people is 4 times higher than the gay demo and the reason is ... people think only gay guys transmit HIV. Vaginal sex has the next highest level of risk. It's not a whole lot less of a risk especially for larger guys (more risk of a tear) There is a lower level of risk involved with oral sex. Unless you have a cut or bleeding gums which raises the risk to that of anal sex There are oral barriers you can get that reduce the risk even further but they are not being used much. " | |||
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"So for all the newbies who wonder what to bring to ur first meet. You need the following- Mints Water Condoms Baby wipes ( we all have them) Hi-viz vest Cling film in case u want to lick some other un protected areas Anyone else want to add anything GSOH " Protective eye wear | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue...." No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing." I was more or less just stating this that somebody else wrote too...if you all read homophbic stuff into what ever else i wrote fine, i know im not hating on people here. | |||
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"I always wondered when a guy has they won't meet people who have met bisexual people to me yes the site is down to personal choice but not everyone here is HONEST! And I have to laugh when I KNOW they have met people who HAVE engaged in meeting bisexual men a relationship even just don't have their verifications shown or have it on their profile... But they have... So unless you get yourself checked regularly attend a clinic and play safe your as much or bigger risk to anyone... Homophobic people are uneducated people...Fact! But not all of us can change the world can we... " | |||
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"Can anyone point out any stats on oral std transmission risks. It would be handy to know like.. " http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp I read this a while ago. | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that." You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! | |||
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"Can anyone point out any stats on oral std transmission risks. It would be handy to know like.. http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp I read this a while ago. " | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! " I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be." Damn | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be." I'm not into anal sex at all I dont do it but I know a lot of girls who love it... Gay men do indulge obviously but the amount of straight men who are obsessed by anal is pretty high too... | |||
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"Can anyone point out any stats on oral std transmission risks. It would be handy to know like.. http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp I read this a while ago. " Hmmmm- a good indicator of approximate risks, the maths nerd in me can see it would appear there are no stats on oral transmission. | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. Damn " Mikey you doing any edging lately | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. I'm not into anal sex at all I dont do it but I know a lot of girls who love it... Gay men do indulge obviously but the amount of straight men who are obsessed by anal is pretty high too... " ....how did we jump from oral to anal?....this thread hijacking is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. .... | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. Damn Mikey you doing any edging lately " Yes, the wrong kind though | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. I'm not into anal sex at all I dont do it but I know a lot of girls who love it... Gay men do indulge obviously but the amount of straight men who are obsessed by anal is pretty high too... ....how did we jump from oral to anal?....this thread hijacking is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. .... " I'd say it'd be a worse taste if it went the other way | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. I'm not into anal sex at all I dont do it but I know a lot of girls who love it... Gay men do indulge obviously but the amount of straight men who are obsessed by anal is pretty high too... ....how did we jump from oral to anal?....this thread hijacking is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. .... I'd say it'd be a worse taste if it went the other way " ....ah fuck it...I wrote this the wrong way round. .. | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. Damn Mikey you doing any edging lately Yes, the wrong kind though " Hedgeing? Lol | |||
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"No i dont really...it unprotected sex we're talking about....but like jilly said, its all got some risk attached to it. Yes but your stating it's primarily only with the gay and bisexual men community and that's completely untrue.... No i didnt state that...thats what you read into it perhaps, but i didnt state that. You stated that gay anal sex was riskier... In fact it's more common in heterosexual couples! I wad stating that anal sex is way more popular with gay lads, you see threads asking if girls are into anal sex on here, and you see that most arent, its not as popular as porn makes it out to be. I'm not into anal sex at all I dont do it but I know a lot of girls who love it... Gay men do indulge obviously but the amount of straight men who are obsessed by anal is pretty high too... ....how did we jump from oral to anal?....this thread hijacking is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. .... I'd say it'd be a worse taste if it went the other way ....ah fuck it...I wrote this the wrong way round. .. " I reckon it would leave a bad taste in your mouth Oh wait | |||
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"Statisticaly speaking oral aint that unsafe, gay anal unprotected sex would be a whole lot riskier." Not true. Lots of stis can be spread via oral. If you have ulcers or cuts, then they all can. Genital bacteria is linked to throat cancer too. | |||
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"Yes. Gay men have lots of anal sex but they are much more likely to wear condoms than straight people The sti infection rates in gay men is lower than the infection rates among straight people " That's actually pretty scary......I've been (wrongly!) assuming the stats were the other way round!! | |||
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"So for all the newbies who wonder what to bring to ur first meet. You need the following- Mints Water Condoms Baby wipes ( we all have them) Hi-viz vest Cling film in case u want to lick some other un protected areas Anyone else want to add anything " Class how did I miss this.... Don't forget blinkers... | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. I was more or less just stating this that somebody else wrote too...if you all read homophbic stuff into what ever else i wrote fine, i know im not hating on people here." There are those that seem to use the homophobic term on here regularly. ..often the same ones. It's unhelpful and is rather unnecessary especially when it's used in a sweeping generalisation to slander people who have differing views. I'd have thought people were mature enough or wise enough on here especially with terms like that but then again it would seem not. | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. I was more or less just stating this that somebody else wrote too...if you all read homophbic stuff into what ever else i wrote fine, i know im not hating on people here. There are those that seem to use the homophobic term on here regularly. ..often the same ones. It's unhelpful and is rather unnecessary especially when it's used in a sweeping generalisation to slander people who have differing views. I'd have thought people were mature enough or wise enough on here especially with terms like that but then again it would seem not." This is from someone who has a generalisation of the bisexual community... | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. I was more or less just stating this that somebody else wrote too...if you all read homophbic stuff into what ever else i wrote fine, i know im not hating on people here. There are those that seem to use the homophobic term on here regularly. ..often the same ones. It's unhelpful and is rather unnecessary especially when it's used in a sweeping generalisation to slander people who have differing views. I'd have thought people were mature enough or wise enough on here especially with terms like that but then again it would seem not. This is from someone who has a generalisation of the bisexual community... " Would you care to explain? | |||
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"Gay straight bi, the risk is out there n it only takes one person. Sti's freak me out they make me not want to have sex, i get checked regularly even if im not sexually active as it takes a few months for some to show signs. I never thought about contacting one from oral thou. Its jot fair something so good can b so dangerous . " ...its only dangerous if you keep your eyes open. .. | |||
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"Random advice from internet: Don't brush your teeth beforehand, it can cause micro bleeding. Gargle salty water beforehandbto see if a stinging sensation reveals a cut." As I said earlier. Oral sex is relatively safe unless you have bleeding gums or cuts. Then it's just as risky The important thing is assess your risks. Stepping out of the house carries danger. I have a friend who barebacked a crack addicted prostitute in Amsterdam and a black prostitute outside a bar in the canaries. He caught nothing. The scariest thing is he thinks bacon is edible by vegetarian ... "it's not like it's meat or anything" | |||
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"Its so hard to follow whos talking to who on here now...yes plenty of straight men seem to be obsessed with anal sex, doesnt mean they do it often though, i think the free porn of today is feeding that obsession, yes gay men are probably safer in general than d*unk hetro lads on holidays making up the figures, reckon theres gay men in the hetro stats ashamed to admit their gay in the clinic too...lets all get the fook along here, nobody came here to slander or argue did they....good thread though. " But some have and need to be careful as making very generalised sweeping statements they knowingly make slanderous statements without backing them up. It's not the place to air out laundry and does no one any good least themselves. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any sources for the suggestion that sti rates are higher among heterosexuals than among gay men? I've been looking online but all I have found seems to suggest the opposite. I haven't spent a while lot of time on it yet though. " I've been looking and come to same conclusion as yourself....am interested in the stats quoted earlier. There was another thread the other day that was quoting stats as a general rule....turned out that the survey was carried out on 560 students from one particular university in New York and each had on average 7, 4 minute speed dates and then the conclusions were made about all men... | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any sources for the suggestion that sti rates are higher among heterosexuals than among gay men? I've been looking online but all I have found seems to suggest the opposite. I haven't spent a while lot of time on it yet though. " I will look in a bit. I seen stuff a San Francisco sex positive site. | |||
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"I trust the facts more myself Irish Times Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 10:12 Updated: Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 10:17 Survey finds high rates of unprotected sex among gay men ‘Nearly 40%’ of men who have sex with men have never tested for HIV or other STIs Almost 40 per cent of men who have sex with men (MSM) have never tested for HIV or sexually transmitted infections, according to a survey of the community. Those least likely to have ever had a HIV test were young, living outside Dublin, did not identify as gay, were out to few or no one or had low levels of education, the survey found. Of those who were tested in the last year, 21 per cent were newly diagnosed with an STI and 8 per cent reported that they were HIV positive. Most than 3,000 MSM participated in the internet survey which was launched today by the HSE and the Gay Health Network at an annual Gay Health Forum in Dublin Castle. Survey finds high rates of unprotected sex among gay men ‘Nearly 40%’ of men who have sex with men have never tested for HIV or other STIs Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 10:12 Updated: Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 10:17 Paul Cullen Some 61 per cent of those surveyed had sex with one or more non-steady partner in the last year, and 40 per cent of these had intercourse without a condom. Photograph: Pederk/E+/Getty Some 61 per cent of those surveyed had sex with one or more non-steady partner in the last year, and 40 per cent of these had intercourse without a condom. Photograph: Pederk/E+/Getty AddThis Sharing Buttons Share to Facebook Share to Twitter Share to Email App Almost 40 per cent of men who have sex with men (MSM) have never tested for HIV or sexually transmitted infections, according to a survey of the community. Those least likely to have ever had a HIV test were young, living outside Dublin, did not identify as gay, were out to few or no one or had low levels of education, the survey found. Of those who were tested in the last year, 21 per cent were newly diagnosed with an STI and 8 per cent reported that they were HIV positive. Most than 3,000 MSM participated in the internet survey which was launched today by the HSE and the Gay Health Network at an annual Gay Health Forum in Dublin Castle. Ninety per cent of men reported having sex with another man in the previous year and 14 per cent with a woman. Of this group, 31 per cent said they had sex with more than one partner. Some 61 per cent had sex with one or more non-steady partner in the last year, and 40 per cent of these had unprotected anal intercourse, ie, without a condom. Almost two-thirds of MSM met their most recent male partner using a smartphone app or website. Of the men surveyed, 75 per cent were attracted only to men and 25 per cent to both men and women. The majority of men (79 per cent) described themselves as gay, 13 per cent as bisexual, 2 per cent as straight or heterosexual and 5 per cent as “other”. Two-thirds were out to all or more than half of the people who knew them while 25 per cent were out to less than half or few people and a further 9 per cent were out to no one. Overall, 53 per cent were single, 39 per cent were in a steady relationship with a man and 8 per cent were in a steady relationship with a woman " but what's the rate on hetro men? That's one side, where is the other side? | |||
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"You can throw around statistics as much as you want, it doesn't protect you from STIs. It doesn't matter if you're straight, bi or gay or who you meet. The only way to protect yourself is to have protected sex and go regularly for tests and live with the remaining risk.... " My thoughts exactly at start of thread ...we all take a risk | |||
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"The statistics say that anal sex has a higher level of transmission of sti. There is less natural lube up there and this leads to tearing. I was more or less just stating this that somebody else wrote too...if you all read homophbic stuff into what ever else i wrote fine, i know im not hating on people here. There are those that seem to use the homophobic term on here regularly. ..often the same ones. It's unhelpful and is rather unnecessary especially when it's used in a sweeping generalisation to slander people who have differing views. I'd have thought people were mature enough or wise enough on here especially with terms like that but then again it would seem not." It's possible to state a fact or statistic without being labelled an ist or phobe of some sort. For example I could state that most serial killers are white males. It doesn't make me sexist or rascist. It's a fact. Some people do state facts as just that. Others state facts to add weight to their own homophobic opinions. The trick is to figure which category the poster fits into. In my humble opinion of course | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any sources for the suggestion that sti rates are higher among heterosexuals than among gay men? I've been looking online but all I have found seems to suggest the opposite. I haven't spent a while lot of time on it yet though. " I'd be interested in seeing the sources too | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut." Syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea and chlamydia, can be transmitted during oral sex. Like you say it's a calculated risk | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut." I didn't notice anyone say there was no risk... Did I miss something? | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut." You can pick your partners as carefully as you want, after a good while on fab I've learned there's nothing that doesn't exist, lies and hypocrisy is endemic and barebacking is more common than everyone thinks or pretends on here. Best is assume that there's the chance that your next meet is just coming from a bareback gangbang. The only person you can trust fully is yourself unless your in denial. | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. You can pick your partners as carefully as you want, after a good while on fab I've learned there's nothing that doesn't exist, lies and hypocrisy is endemic and barebacking is more common than everyone thinks or pretends on here. Best is assume that there's the chance that your next meet is just coming from a bareback gangbang. The only person you can trust fully is yourself unless your in denial. " | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. You can pick your partners as carefully as you want, after a good while on fab I've learned there's nothing that doesn't exist, lies and hypocrisy is endemic and barebacking is more common than everyone thinks or pretends on here. Best is assume that there's the chance that your next meet is just coming from a bareback gangbang. The only person you can trust fully is yourself unless your in denial. " Exactly. Just because they say they play safe or have no pics to suggest otherwise doesn't mean they do. That's why I'm not overly concerned about what others do. I look after myself and treat everyone the same in terms of risk. | |||
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"You can throw around statistics as much as you want, it doesn't protect you from STIs. It doesn't matter if you're straight, bi or gay or who you meet. The only way to protect yourself is to have protected sex and go regularly for tests and live with the remaining risk.... " In a nutshell | |||
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"You can throw around statistics as much as you want, it doesn't protect you from STIs. It doesn't matter if you're straight, bi or gay or who you meet. The only way to protect yourself is to have protected sex and go regularly for tests and live with the remaining risk.... In a nutshell " Yes. | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. Syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea and chlamydia, can be transmitted during oral sex. Like you say it's a calculated risk " With zero, yes ZERO, statistics on oral transmission rates it's very hard (did I just make a pun) to make a calculated risk. It would be great if this site did a confidential survey. I just have no idea what my chances are if I sucked another bare cock? | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. Syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea and chlamydia, can be transmitted during oral sex. Like you say it's a calculated risk With zero, yes ZERO, statistics on oral transmission rates it's very hard (did I just make a pun) to make a calculated risk. It would be great if this site did a confidential survey. I just have no idea what my chances are if I sucked another bare cock? " If it looks clean, it is clean | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner " It didn't put you off at all? | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? " I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody." Safer or less of a slut.. | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. Safer or less of a slut.. " A safer slut...then again, maybe not. | |||
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"I know several people who have caught gonorrhoea from oral. Some gay men who caught it from men and some straight men who caught it from women. It happens... " I presume it was the performers who caught it? | |||
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"I know several people who have caught gonorrhoea from oral. Some gay men who caught it from men and some straight men who caught it from women. It happens... I presume it was the performers who caught it?" No doubt it happens...and im sure either person can catch stuff. | |||
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" You can pick your partners as carefully as you want, after a good while on fab I've learned there's nothing that doesn't exist, lies and hypocrisy is endemic and barebacking is more common than everyone thinks or pretends on here. Best is assume that there's the chance that your next meet is just coming from a bareback gangbang. The only person you can trust fully is yourself unless your in denial. " Exactly... | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody." How did it make him safer? I get checked regularly I attend the GU clinic in limerick, and it amazes me how many people still don't get tested regularly regardless of sexual orientation.... I have my appointment card and shows my tests were clear the previous month(if it's not clear you get notified by text to contact the clinic to come in) and my hepatitis B injection card shows I've received my booster! Everyone should go there few do... Everything is risky,it's risky to drive your car to work every morning but would you drive without wearing a seat belt? Hell no!!! Savvy people.... | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut." I think there are a lot of "ignorance is bliss" attitudes... | |||
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"I know several people who have caught gonorrhoea from oral. Some gay men who caught it from men and some straight men who caught it from women. It happens... I presume it was the performers who caught it?" The straight male caught it from the female who performed oral on him. She has caught it in her through from someone else and passed it on. | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. How did it make him safer? He decided he'll wear rubber more often. " | |||
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"Eh, hello, I can hear you talking about me you know! " Itchy ears...lets hope its not somthing else | |||
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"Eh, hello, I can hear you talking about me you know! Itchy ears...lets hope its not somthing else " Ah feck, they've been getting fierce hairy of late | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody." Ya I'm sure everyone will be using condoms for oral now. | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. How did it make him safer? I get checked regularly I attend the GU clinic in limerick, and it amazes me how many people still don't get tested regularly regardless of sexual orientation.... I have my appointment card and shows my tests were clear the previous month(if it's not clear you get notified by text to contact the clinic to come in) and my hepatitis B injection card shows I've received my booster! Everyone should go there few do... Everything is risky,it's risky to drive your car to work every morning but would you drive without wearing a seat belt? Hell no!!! Savvy people.... " Do u go to the hospital for the GU clinic? I've never gotten any card there bar the one I got first day I went in about 5 years ago when I started this craic.. | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. I think there are a lot of "ignorance is bliss" attitudes..." | |||
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"Are some people pretending there os no risk to oral to feel better? Or changing the subject to convince themselves there is no risk. Yes there is. Every time you enjoy oral you are at risk from plenty of STIs. It's a calculated risk. That's why you need to pick partners carefully and go with your gut. I think there are a lot of "ignorance is bliss" attitudes..." Absolutely and some people are just plain ignorant! | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. How did it make him safer? I get checked regularly I attend the GU clinic in limerick, and it amazes me how many people still don't get tested regularly regardless of sexual orientation.... I have my appointment card and shows my tests were clear the previous month(if it's not clear you get notified by text to contact the clinic to come in) and my hepatitis B injection card shows I've received my booster! Everyone should go there few do... Everything is risky,it's risky to drive your car to work every morning but would you drive without wearing a seat belt? Hell no!!! Savvy people.... Do u go to the hospital for the GU clinic? I've never gotten any card there bar the one I got first day I went in about 5 years ago when I started this craic.. " Yep...I have my white card!! And my hep B card... | |||
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"All this talk of oral is giving me a serious boner It didn't put you off at all? I bet it's made him safer pp...and isn't that a good thing for everybody. Ya I'm sure everyone will be using condoms for oral now. " Well maybe not everybody...its made me think about it more though....sure why not. | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy." I agree with you completely... | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy." I agree totally ...men however carry HPV and cant be tested for it | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy." Can you give examples? | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy." I think its more the case that the same diseases that cause no effect in men can be more dangerous for women, such as chlamydia, as far as I know does not have long term effects for a man but can leave a woman infertile, or the hpv virus goes unnoticed in a man but can cause cervical cancer in women and they may not have symptoms of these for years. So while women may be infected and not know, there is still more of a chance that a woman will contract an std from a man then the other way around and that is down to anatomy. For example a woman has a 1/1000 chance of contracting hiv from a positive man from 1 time un protected sex 1/500 if there is ejaculation, whereas a man has a 1/2000 chance of contracting it if he has unprotected sex with a positive woman. Women are also more susceptible to chlamydia, syphilis and herpes from a man verses the other way around | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy. I think its more the case that the same diseases that cause no effect in men can be more dangerous for women, such as chlamydia, as far as I know does not have long term effects for a man but can leave a woman infertile, or the hpv virus goes unnoticed in a man but can cause cervical cancer in women and they may not have symptoms of these for years. So while women may be infected and not know, there is still more of a chance that a woman will contract an std from a man then the other way around and that is down to anatomy. For example a woman has a 1/1000 chance of contracting hiv from a positive man from 1 time un protected sex 1/500 if there is ejaculation, whereas a man has a 1/2000 chance of contracting it if he has unprotected sex with a positive woman. Women are also more susceptible to chlamydia, syphilis and herpes from a man verses the other way around" | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy." So what have we learned? If men want to avoid STIs they should not have sex with other men ... or women ... If someone comes up with stats on sti rates for maturation I'm quitting | |||
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"If I were you single guys..id get off this site asap...there's probably stats somewhere on Google, that say you have a 1/500 chance of catching something, just by talking to the dirty bitches on here. We will stay on, and try to help them as best we can....all the best fellas. ..shut the door on the way out.... Are the gone yet? .....its party time... " Now I know why I'm growing three Dragon heads from time to time.... | |||
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"If I were you single guys..id get off this site asap...there's probably stats somewhere on Google, that say you have a 1/500 chance of catching something, just by talking to the dirty bitches on here. We will stay on, and try to help them as best we can....all the best fellas. ..shut the door on the way out.... Are the gone yet? .....its party time... Now I know why I'm growing three Dragon heads from time to time.... " 3 What colours are they... | |||
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"If I were you single guys..id get off this site asap...there's probably stats somewhere on Google, that say you have a 1/500 chance of catching something, just by talking to the dirty bitches on here. We will stay on, and try to help them as best we can....all the best fellas. ..shut the door on the way out.... Are the gone yet? .....its party time... Now I know why I'm growing three Dragon heads from time to time.... 3 What colours are they... " Dragon heads ? | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy. I think its more the case that the same diseases that cause no effect in men can be more dangerous for women, such as chlamydia, as far as I know does not have long term effects for a man but can leave a woman infertile, or the hpv virus goes unnoticed in a man but can cause cervical cancer in women and they may not have symptoms of these for years. So while women may be infected and not know, there is still more of a chance that a woman will contract an std from a man then the other way around and that is down to anatomy. For example a woman has a 1/1000 chance of contracting hiv from a positive man from 1 time un protected sex 1/500 if there is ejaculation, whereas a man has a 1/2000 chance of contracting it if he has unprotected sex with a positive woman. Women are also more susceptible to chlamydia, syphilis and herpes from a man verses the other way around" Sorry to say HPV is being blamed for throat cancers in men which is on the rise since the act of oral has become more common so much so that there is now calls for young men to be immunised against it Same as young girls are being targeted for cervical cancer | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy. Can you give examples? " What i was saying is men can notice theyve caught something quicker, the penis is easier to see if any sores or rashes have appeared, symptoms go un-noticed in women more often cause its hard to see and symptoms arent far off other hormonal changes women might get so besides the worse effects to do with fertility etc and higher odds of getting something women can carry things longer than men without noticing something might be wrong...thats what i was on about. | |||
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"Women are more likely to be be carrying around things un-noticed....dont shoot me for saying that, thats the stats and its down to your anatomy. I think its more the case that the same diseases that cause no effect in men can be more dangerous for women, such as chlamydia, as far as I know does not have long term effects for a man but can leave a woman infertile, or the hpv virus goes unnoticed in a man but can cause cervical cancer in women and they may not have symptoms of these for years. So while women may be infected and not know, there is still more of a chance that a woman will contract an std from a man then the other way around and that is down to anatomy. For example a woman has a 1/1000 chance of contracting hiv from a positive man from 1 time un protected sex 1/500 if there is ejaculation, whereas a man has a 1/2000 chance of contracting it if he has unprotected sex with a positive woman. Women are also more susceptible to chlamydia, syphilis and herpes from a man verses the other way around Sorry to say HPV is being blamed for throat cancers in men which is on the rise since the act of oral has become more common so much so that there is now calls for young men to be immunised against it Same as young girls are being targeted for cervical cancer " I suppose it would have to be harmful to men also as it can cause so much damage for women. It must be a fairly recent discovery tho or they are not publicising it as much. | |||
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