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"Coup in Turkey. Hope anyone over there will stay safe . Airports all closed down "Yeah i think i heard its in ankara | |||
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"I hope it is for the better.Erdogsn is a dangerous nutter alright" .....he may have been a dangerous nutter...but like saddam. ..and the shah of Iran. ..he was our dangerous nutter.... | |||
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"What has happened" Was wondering the same. I've been out all night and not seen any news | |||
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"What has happened Was wondering the same. I've been out all night and not seen any news" Military coup. The army don't like the current boss so he has to go...and he is a nutjob. | |||
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"The world has gone mad  "It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it"That's predominantly only true in a European (mostly western) sense. America has been busy starting and fostering wars around the planet, since the end of WW2. It seems though to have accelerated a lot since 9/11 and unfortunately isn't going to stop anytime soon. | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it
That's predominantly only true in a European (mostly western) sense. America has been busy starting and fostering wars around the planet, since the end of WW2. It seems though to have accelerated a lot since 9/11 and unfortunately isn't going to stop anytime soon. "And Russia and China ect. Historically the "powers" have warred each other roughly every 20 years or so. Wether you look at the greeks, chinese, mongolian, central asians (persian empire and before) right up through the french revolution and up to WW1 Technically we have been lucky. Our generations have less chance of being killed in War than any other | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it". peaceful?? koean war Vietnam Kosovan Bosnia the first gulf war. that's just off the top of my head im sure there's been many up risings and genocides as well | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it.
peaceful?? koean war Vietnam Kosovan Bosnia the first gulf war. that's just off the top of my head im sure there's been many up risings and genocides as well "yup. Even with all that. And you can add Afghanistan (at war 30 years now) the child soldiers of central Africa, and a thousand other smaller wars. It's not my theory. Proper academics have done research on this. During the napoleonic wars (which followed 20 years of war) nearly every part of the world had fighting. After he was defeated the prussians started their rise. The whole thing is pointless. Ordinary people die so the elite can play games and get richer | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it
That's predominantly only true in a European (mostly western) sense. America has been busy starting and fostering wars around the planet, since the end of WW2. It seems though to have accelerated a lot since 9/11 and unfortunately isn't going to stop anytime soon.
And Russia and China ect. Historically the "powers" have warred each other roughly every 20 years or so. Wether you look at the greeks, chinese, mongolian, central asians (persian empire and before) right up through the french revolution and up to WW1
Technically we have been lucky. Our generations have less chance of being killed in War than any other "Russia definitely but to a much lesser extent that the US. China very rarely unless it directly affected their borders, possibly why they could afford to buy so much of Americas debt. Western Europe has been very peaceful, mostly thanks to the EU, but I have a feeling it will be a long time before it is again. | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it
That's predominantly only true in a European (mostly western) sense. America has been busy starting and fostering wars around the planet, since the end of WW2. It seems though to have accelerated a lot since 9/11 and unfortunately isn't going to stop anytime soon.
And Russia and China ect. Historically the "powers" have warred each other roughly every 20 years or so. Wether you look at the greeks, chinese, mongolian, central asians (persian empire and before) right up through the french revolution and up to WW1
Technically we have been lucky. Our generations have less chance of being killed in War than any other
Russia definitely but to a much lesser extent that the US. China very rarely unless it directly affected their borders, possibly why they could afford to buy so much of Americas debt. Western Europe has been very peaceful, mostly thanks to the EU, but I have a feeling it will be a long time before it is again. "I read a fascinating book on Haiti and the banana republics. Basically us armed forces would invade central and southern American countries, topple the government's and plant republics in their places for a handful of fruit companies. That was in the 1880s | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it"Couldn't agree more with you. The Cold War with all it's quirks and inconsistencies was one of the most stable times in known history. | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it
That's predominantly only true in a European (mostly western) sense. America has been busy starting and fostering wars around the planet, since the end of WW2. It seems though to have accelerated a lot since 9/11 and unfortunately isn't going to stop anytime soon.
And Russia and China ect. Historically the "powers" have warred each other roughly every 20 years or so. Wether you look at the greeks, chinese, mongolian, central asians (persian empire and before) right up through the french revolution and up to WW1
Technically we have been lucky. Our generations have less chance of being killed in War than any other
Russia definitely but to a much lesser extent that the US. China very rarely unless it directly affected their borders, possibly why they could afford to buy so much of Americas debt. Western Europe has been very peaceful, mostly thanks to the EU, but I have a feeling it will be a long time before it is again.
I read a fascinating book on Haiti and the banana republics. Basically us armed forces would invade central and southern American countries, topple the government's and plant republics in their places for a handful of fruit companies. That was in the 1880s"Then after WW1, they turned completely inward facing. Unfortunately after WW2 we got the rise of Industro-Military complex. The scarey thing is Europe will take the brunt of this. Though since France, Germany and the U.K. are at the center of it. In terms of the global arms trade, that's not surprising. It will be interesting to see Germany's reaction to this coup, as they're using the carrot of EU membership, to get Turkey to hold on to 2 million refugees at the moment. | |||
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"The world has gone mad
It was always mad. The time from ww2 until the millennium was one of the most peaceful periods in history. Things are just returning to "normal" now. It makes me feel ill thinking about it"Not true. The Ottoman empire did a great job of stabilizing the region umtil the Brits started dissecting it after WW1. Then instability became the norm. | |||
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