FabSwingers.com forum: single FAB guys treated so poorly

By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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I've just recently joined FAB....and I'm appalled at how poorly single guys are treated on this site by couples and females....it's like we have the plague ! Completely different in UK for example. Why is that FABBERS ?

We don't want sympathy cos we are single lol.....but some respect a few feckin manners wouldn't go a miss !

(Bet there will be a torrent of abuse now....let's see)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awww tell us your troubles...did some big nasty refuse to have sexy time with ya?? Yawnfest....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I've to make my own tae like(wtf)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boo fuckin hoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know I've to make my own tae like(wtf)"

I'll make you a brew Hardy

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

To be fair ... It's a clique thing. Some couples get treated with disdaib. Just ignore those who can't show you respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have the plague? Is that serious?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Cheers jasper....proof in point....didn't take long !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't count me in there - I don't treat single males badly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway you've been here 2 weeks and have a veri. Thats pretty good going. You're expecting too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's tough being a single female too.......I've had some serious abuse on here!! .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cheers jasper....proof in point....didn't take long !"

Oh stop being a moan bag, guys get treated bad,cpls get treated bad,girls get treated bad, that's life!! Deal with it,your full grown adult for jaysus sake!!

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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And thanks to bigguy for that informative input to the discussion !

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Cheers jasper....proof in point....didn't take long !"

Trick here is to block people like this.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Thanks jasper....take a look around you at the profiles of couples and women....and try then to consider a balanced viewpoint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cheers jasper....proof in point....didn't take long !

Trick here is to block people like this. "

Trick here is to stop putting up threads if you can't handle peoples comments, and he can block all he wants, has no effect on the forums...

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Sorry to hear that itsme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone gets abuse on here , I don't know why people think couples or females have it so easy

I'm just wondering what you are hoping to gain from this thread op ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks jasper....take a look around you at the profiles of couples and women....and try then to consider a balanced viewpoint "

Well one look at your profile makes me understand why people may not chat with you, but you have a very so I don't get what your moaning about

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Thanks jasper...I've no problem handling ur comments (vitriolic as they may be).... u are highlighting the point I'm making. !

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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So u wanna close down the thread upforfun ? Lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks jasper...I've no problem handling ur comments (vitriolic as they may be).... u are highlighting the point I'm making. ! "

If you have no problem handling my comments then surely you can handle any comments that you say are bad that you get...still don't understand why your complaining, tell us how you have been treated poorly

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Jasper I didn't openly criticise ur profile....so why u find the need to criticise mine lol ?.... anyway that's not the subject of this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So u wanna close down the thread upforfun ? Lol..."

No ??? Did I say that ??? I actually asked you a question

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Jasper read the name of the thread again.....it's not about me. It's an observation of the content of the vast majority of couples profiles....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jasper I didn't openly criticise ur profile....so why u find the need to criticise mine lol ?.... anyway that's not the subject of this thread"

I gave my opinion on your profile and offered an insight as to why people may not engage with you

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Upforit. ..the point of the thread is to have a discussion (isn't that what threads are about ?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jasper read the name of the thread again.....it's not about me. It's an observation of the content of the vast majority of couples profiles...."

How so? Is it because some cpls say they don't want single guys? That's their choice, just like single guys have choices...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly !!!!!! That's why I asked you a question you never answered me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jasper read the name of the thread again.....it's not about me. It's an observation of the content of the vast majority of couples profiles...."

And you said females

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Again jasper. ..read the title of the thread.....who said people don't engage with me ....that's an incorrect conclusion u have jumped to....I wonder why that is ?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Yes loncav. ..and females too

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon

I'm a single guy on here ... I'm also new ... Wonder why I'm not having problems, unless problems are fun and flirty conversations with women and couples at 3 in the morning?

You get the response you deserve overall!!!

Just a thought but maybe your approach is wrong .... This thread probably won't help either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Again jasper. ..read the title of the thread.....who said people don't engage with me ....that's an incorrect conclusion u have jumped to....I wonder why that is ?"

So again I don't understand what your issue is, I have read the title many times, are you asking why other guys are treated poorly? Explain the thread title

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Have another go jasper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*woe is me*

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon

"OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ? "

I dont get treated poorly here probably because I'd never speak to anyone like that !!! Seriously !! Chill a little it's the Internet !!!

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By *ub_leitrim_guyMan
over a year ago

Out in the sticks

It's because so many single FAB guys treat females/couples so poorly!!

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Thanks secret games

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ? "

Give examples of how single guys are poorly treated? You should see the amount of abuse we get from some single guys after we reply with a polite no thanks, so it works both ways

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

It seems as if single guys get the most abuse here, but you gotta delve a bit deeper.

which demographic is most likely to:

make attention seeking "look at me threads"?

make cringeworthy attempts at flirting?

make troll/fake accounts?

give abuse to people when they're rejected?

send annoying one liner "wanna fuck" type messages?

attempt to ruin organised events?

and much more?

now i'm not saying females and couples are blame free, but the sad fact is that the majority of the culprits of the above are male (or at least pretend to be)

you just gotta rise above it and NOT BE ONE ONE THOSE GUYS. if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

a lot of the forum posters (of all genders) are frankly a bit jaded from seeing examples of the above, and we tend to be a sarcastic bunch, especially to newcomers who don't get the flow of the forums. it comes across as cliquish, but we're just wary.

i think the unwritten rule of fab (and especially the forums) is "prove to us you're not an idiot and we'll accept you"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So because we're swingers...which of course the vast majority of society regards as a couples activity,we make it known our wishes we have no interest in single men,(even though on an average day we get numerous messages,winks and friend requests from them),and were the bad folk....we certainly don't take a strop if a couple doesn't like our profile,accept people's likes and dislikes,that's life.

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By *aughtyTippcplCouple
over a year ago

Nearby

"I have the plague? Is that serious?"

C'mere rav I have a cure for u

Op, as a couple I can assure u it can be just as hard for us as it can be for any single on here.

We chat, have the banter in forums, and we've gotten to know some really lovely people. Sometimes it leads to meets, sometimes it doesn't. Its just the way of the lifestyle.

Tina

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ?

I dont get treated poorly here probably because I'd never speak to anyone like that !!! Seriously !! Chill a little it's the Internet !!!"

To be fair, Jasper spoke condescendingly to begin with...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have another go jasper"

Are you an adult or what? Jaysus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone gets a bit of grief now and then... If u have a problem... block them and move on...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ?

I dont get treated poorly here probably because I'd never speak to anyone like that !!! Seriously !! Chill a little it's the Internet !!!

To be fair, Jasper spoke condescendingly to begin with... "

To be fair he expected it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK upforfun. ..I'll spell it out for ya...the point of the thread is to have a discussion on the subject matter.....get it ? "

Ok I'll spell it out for you .... You asked for a discussion , I asked you what you hoped to gain from this thread ?? Very simple question to which you replied did I want the thread closed down ???

We all get abuse on here , all of us !! so hence why I asked you a question !!! I think that's what we call a discussion no ???

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Dirtydivils no one is having a strop....it's just a discussion

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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OK upforfun. .thanks

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Jasper ....u r just proving the point at this stage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No as jasper put it...your having a strop cause couples in the vast majority have no interest in single males...in order to text couples with no interest in single males a big warning comes up warning you not to text we have no interest...so forgive us if we get a little fecking peeved everyday with these messages...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jasper ....u r just proving the point at this stage "

How so? You ask for a discussion but won't give a straight answer to any questions, you say single guys are treated bad but in the same breath say that you engage with plenty of people, so let's have a discussion, why do you think guys specifically get treated poorly

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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I'll say it again dirtydivils. ..no one is having a strop

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"No as jasper put it...your having a strop cause couples in the vast majority have no interest in single males...in order to text couples with no interest in single males a big warning comes up warning you not to text we have no interest...so forgive us if we get a little fecking peeved everyday with these messages..."

Why don't you filter out single males completely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually didn't realise could do that...appreciate that John,thanks.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Well jasper that a snapshot look at couples and female profiles and see what u think overall

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Once you join fab as a single man you turn into disposable goods. As we know consumerism can have a negative effect on the human being, the result is loss of respect for an object and the environment. However not all humans indulge in consumerism or are negatively affected by it.

Look upon it like this and I hope this helps, op: you don't wanna spend time with peeps who have no respect, standards and style

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By *ilderMan
over a year ago

dublin

Anyone need a hug?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well jasper that a snapshot look at couples and female profiles and see what u think overall"

What does this even mean, are you saying every cpl and female profile treats single guys bad? Are you by any chance a politician because you sure do divert questions like one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And we will say it again...yes you are...the subject of your thread is why are single men treated so poorly(I.e you),because as Jaspers first quote summed it up,the big bad couples won't let you be with them...if that's not stropping i need a new understanding of the word

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Actually didn't realise could do that...appreciate that John,thanks."

No problem.

You've taken the first step by blocking me, as is your right. as per forum rules me addressing you here any further could lead to me getting a ban.

I wish you the best of luck and happy fabbing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Longdong, your not doing yourself any favours with this thread. Your saying guys get treated badly but your coming across as aggressive. Perhaps it's time to change tack. Calm down quit whining and learn patience.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Suggest u Google it dirtydivils

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Thanks pat13.....what exactly have I said that's aggressive ?

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

what are you on about myself and the single guys I know get treated great ? the ones that might think they are hard done by are the ones that send wanna fuck messages, the ones that dont read profiles or the ones that think fab is an easy way to get a ride. you get out of it what you put in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God that was a right Mensa retort....put me in my place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just recently joined FAB....and I'm appalled at how poorly single guys are treated on this site by couples and females....it's like we have the plague ! Completely different in UK for example. Why is that FABBERS ?

We don't want sympathy cos we are single lol.....but some respect a few feckin manners wouldn't go a miss !

(Bet there will be a torrent of abuse now....let's see)"

Probably because of their history here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks pat13.....what exactly have I said that's aggressive ?

Didn't say you said anything. I said you come across as aggressive. Also argumentative. Not good traits of you ask me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That escalated quickly

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"what are you on about myself and the single guys I know get treated great ? the ones that might think they are hard done by are the ones that send wanna fuck messages, the ones that dont read profiles or the ones that think fab is an easy way to get a ride. you get out of it what you put in."

Yep. pretty much this.

if you act like an asshole you gotta be prepared for the shit.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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Is it because it's a clique thing like ellennseb say ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly!

You've gotta put in the effort, be polite, courteous and actually try and make a connection with someone..... rather than your close by fancy the ride....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it because it's a clique thing like ellennseb say ?"

What's a clique?

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By *hocoholicWoman
over a year ago

The big D

Mingo, DirtyDivils, & NaughtyTippCpl made great points & are giving their input on thr thread topic but no comment/reply from op on what they said, only responding smartly to those that are challenging him. So it's not really a discussion you want, just drama.

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Is it because it's a clique thing like ellennseb say ?"

read the first reply i gave to this thread.

i'm part of no clique.

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Everyone gets a bit of grief now and then... If u have a problem... block them and move on... "

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And we will say it again...yes you are...the subject of your thread is why are single men treated so poorly(I.e you),because as Jaspers first quote summed it up,the big bad couples won't let you be with them...if that's not stropping i need a new understanding of the word"

But the couples will - his only veri is from one and he's only been here2 weeks. I dunno what he's moaning about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eh John...you've me blocked...only have 2 blocked and you aren't either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mingo, DirtyDivils, & NaughtyTippCpl made great points & are giving their input on thr thread topic but no comment/reply from op on what they said, only responding smartly to those that are challenging him. So it's not really a discussion you want, just drama. "

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

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No drama here choco.....so what's view on this ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it because it's a clique thing like ellennseb say ?

read the first reply i gave to this thread.

i'm part of no clique. "

Same here, pop in and out as I feel like, and have only been treated with courtesy in forums and by couples ,women

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Once you join fab as a single man you turn into disposable goods. As we know consumerism can have a negative effect on the human being, the result is loss of respect for an object and the environment. However not all humans indulge in consumerism or are negatively affected by it.

Look upon it like this and I hope this helps, op: you don't wanna spend time with peeps who have no respect, standards and style

Beautiful.

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

Lonecav appears to hold me in so much disdain that she can only address me 'he'

......

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Eh John...you've me blocked...only have 2 blocked and you aren't either

I have no idea why. please accept my sincerest apologies. block lifted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Longdong, your not doing yourself any favours with this thread. Your saying guys get treated badly but your coming across as aggressive. Perhaps it's time to change tack. Calm down quit whining and learn patience."

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lonecav appears to hold me in so much disdain that she can only address me 'he'

......

Wow, and you say your here for a discussion and not drama....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FYI. Clique is always thrown around as a negative by the moaners. It isn't. It's just a group of people who are more comfortable with each other than the rest of us. So by claiming they're in a clique just screams "insecurity".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone gets a bit of grief now and then... If u have a problem... block them and move on...

Well said."

From Experience the block button is a single girls best friend.... used to be diamonds but things change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive. "

He asked for a discussion but has in no way even attempted to discuss what irks him....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God none taken

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Popcorn time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lonecav appears to hold me in so much disdain that she can only address me 'he'

......

To be fair I and I'm sure a few more here would gladly tell you how much 'disdain' your held in after this thread but would probably end up getting a ban. I wish you all the best of luck in your endeavours on here because I'm sure you will need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boo fuckin hoo"

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive. "

He's also ignoring those who actually want to engage in a discussion with him, preferring to reply to those who are reacting negatively to his opinions. heightening the tension in the thread.

that in and of itself could be considered trolling by some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So because we're swingers...which of course the vast majority of society regards as a couples activity,we make it known our wishes we have no interest in single men,(even though on an average day we get numerous messages,winks and friend requests from them),and were the bad folk....we certainly don't take a strop if a couple doesn't like our profile,accept people's likes and dislikes,that's life."

So why not use the appropriate filters?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive. "

'It's just my opinion!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this a serious thread longdong?

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive.

He's also ignoring those who actually want to engage in a discussion with him, preferring to reply to those who are reacting negatively to his opinions. heightening the tension in the thread.

that in and of itself could be considered trolling by some. "

I concur

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By *rutus83Man
over a year ago

naas

I love the positivity on fab so many happy people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive.

He's also ignoring those who actually want to engage in a discussion with him, preferring to reply to those who are reacting negatively to his opinions. heightening the tension in the thread.

that in and of itself could be considered trolling by some.

I concur "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lonecav appears to hold me in so much disdain that she can only address me 'he'

......

You need to re-read all my comments if you think I've only commented on yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love the positivity on fab so many happy people "

good laugh on a monday

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique."

I was not aggressive with him, and sought to engage in a discussion with him. I was ignored.

I'm sincerely curious to hear your thoughts on the theory of a clique, and its inhabitants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique."

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's went offline

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

We suggest that Jasper's input could be considered trolling too.

There are couples here coming across as aggressive too. We feel longdong is being defensive.

He's also ignoring those who actually want to engage in a discussion with him, preferring to reply to those who are reacting negatively to his opinions. heightening the tension in the thread.

that in and of itself could be considered trolling by some.

I concur "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Were we to aggressive with him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually made a mistake - he isn't verified by a couple. I totally misread the verifiers name. My mistake there OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It may not be politically correct but unfortunately jasper is correct...but the. You could say that's down to sheer numbers and the fact there's thousands of them...i think this whole thread was a discussion,not aggressive in my reading of it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Actually didn't realise could do that...appreciate that John,thanks.

No problem.

You've taken the first step by blocking me, as is your right. as per forum rules me addressing you here any further could lead to me getting a ban.

I wish you the best of luck and happy fabbing. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Were we to aggressive with him?"

We? Are you not a single man profile?

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view..."

There's a recipe to avoid grief and abuse, it's called manners, respect and standards or in other words treat other how you want to be treated. I can tell you guys it works. I haven't had one word of abuse for over a year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view...

Well we have had abuse for giving a simple no thanks not for us reply, so its very presumptuous to assume that the only reason for abuse is the receiver of the abuse having bad manners...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view...

Fuck you DH!

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Were we to aggressive with him?

We? Are you not a single man profile?"

He means "we" as in the people replying to the OP.

It wasn't really aggressive. the op most likely took offence and the initial sarcastic responses to his post and got defencive and focused on replying to them. tensions were heightened, and all hope for an actual discussion was lost.

sometimes I wonder why I post....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are treated poorly...but no one forces us either to stay...or meet...do you own thing and maintain your self esteem...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Were we to aggressive with him?

We? Are you not a single man profile?

He means "we" as in the people replying to the OP.

sometimes I wonder why I post...."

I know what he meant. What I was getting at, is by saying,"we". He is creating that it's everyone together against the OP. When it's not. Maybe he thinks he's in a clique

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over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique."

I have to disagree with the OP to a point. As many have said privately it's not just aimed at single guys. It is slightly different when compared to the UK forums by that I mean the mob mentality does feature far more here when a newbie posts.

There is little room or welcome given unless you are in the sought after minority. Now I have a pretty thick skin and I got it when I started here but like I did the OP just has to suck it up.The comments prove his point but that's just the Ireland forum for you. Embrace it an get on with it, like every community things change as do opinions. One thing is for sure, this place is ain't for the of heart

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Look upon it like this and I hope this helps, op: you don't wanna spend time with peeps who have no respect, standards and style

Spot on

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

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"We are treated poorly...but no one forces us either to stay...or meet...do you own thing and maintain your self esteem...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are treated poorly...but no one forces us either to stay...or meet...do you own thing and maintain your self esteem...

Sounds like a sound plan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I ask a question...it may be silly...but are ye treated badly by couples who have an interest in single males or is it the rest of us you feel are the culprits,no aggressive or sarcastic elements meant..just a genuine question?

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

OK Ellen n seb. ...seems I'm in the minority here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally agree.u will find that some of the Irish women on here are so rude!its always the same sarcastic wagons and u will get to sus these wagons out quickly.there are sum nice people here also but ur dead right some of the Irish people on here are total dickheads

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By *herry_bombshellWoman
over a year ago

northside

I'm confused by this thread. Am I reading it wrong or is the OP complaining that no one wants to have sex with him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Typical braindead response. The guy is makin a valid point but idiots like u guys prove his point.braindead

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Totally agree.u will find that some of the Irish women on here are so rude!its always the same sarcastic wagons and u will get to sus these wagons out quickly.there are sum nice people here also but ur dead right some of the Irish people on here are total dickheads"

So say we.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Typical braindead response. The guy is makin a valid point but idiots like u guys prove his point.braindead"

What is his point? Maybe you can shed some light on it seeing that he won't give a straight answer

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown

"Typical braindead response. The guy is makin a valid point but idiots like u guys prove his point.braindead"

Okay. We agree with your vote that the is a lot of rude people on the Irish scene.

However, name calling because someone doesn't unders.tand the OP is unasked for

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

So say we."

Hmm, but I rarely run into those kind of people, unless they reveal themselves on the forum. I've not run into a single rude or aggressive dickhead (of either gender) while conversing via PM.

How have I been so lucky?

Opinions welcome....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Were we to aggressive with him?

We? Are you not a single man profile?

He means "we" as in the people replying to the OP.

sometimes I wonder why I post....

I know what he meant. What I was getting at, is by saying,"we". He is creating that it's everyone together against the OP. When it's not. Maybe he thinks he's in a clique

I do apologise for perhaps insinuating that 'we' as a 'clique' are against the op. Let me say firstly I speak for myself and no one else. Secondly I'm not in and nor do I think I'm in a clique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all down to supply and demand my friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all down to supply and demand my friend. "

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

I suggest everyone reads this forum again tomorrow from start to finish ....objectively !

I made my view know in the first thread....and I asked for discussion. ...what I got effectively was as follows:

Criticism of my profile

Accused of having a strop

Vitriolic comments (from just a few to be honest )

Accused of being a troll

Accused of seeking drama

I'm an adult. I don't do strops and I can certainly take criticise.....but I think the response I got and particularly the tone of some....kinda demonstrates the point I was trying to make.

If that makes me persona non gratis on here...then so be it....I'm a big boy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So say we.

Hmm, but I rarely run into those kind of people, unless they reveal themselves on the forum. I've not run into a single rude or aggressive dickhead (of either gender) while conversing via PM.

How have I been so lucky?

Opinions welcome...."

I don't get rude or aggressive mail either. Nor do I send them You get treated as you treat others

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Typical braindead response. The guy is makin a valid point but idiots like u guys prove his point.braindead

Okay. We agree with your vote that the is a lot of rude people on the Irish scene.

However, name calling because someone doesn't unders.tand the OP is unasked for"

There are rude people in life, worldwide.

the swinging scene is no different.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So say we.

Hmm, but I rarely run into those kind of people, unless they reveal themselves on the forum. I've not run into a single rude or aggressive dickhead (of either gender) while conversing via PM.

How have I been so lucky?

Opinions welcome...."

Didn't you say it was the 6 week surveillance on all possible PM recipients that you do?

Or is it the NUYOYM syndrome?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe you allow them to do that to you...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like a montessori on here all the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suggest everyone reads this forum again tomorrow from start to finish ....objectively !

I made my view know in the first thread....and I asked for discussion. ...what I got effectively was as follows:

Criticism of my profile

Accused of having a strop

Vitriolic comments (from just a few to be honest )

Accused of being a troll

Accused of seeking drama

I'm an adult. I don't do strops and I can certainly take criticise.....but I think the response I got and particularly the tone of some....kinda demonstrates the point I was trying to make.

If that makes me persona non gratis on here...then so be it....I'm a big boy

You asked for discussion but refuse to engage in discussion, instead you gave petty little answers and deflected questions, what exactly is your issue? You say you converse with people, you have a veri but are saying that you are treated bad by cpl and female profiles...

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"I suggest everyone reads this forum again tomorrow from start to finish ....objectively !

I made my view know in the first thread....and I asked for discussion. ...what I got effectively was as follows:

Criticism of my profile

Accused of having a strop

Vitriolic comments (from just a few to be honest )

Accused of being a troll

Accused of seeking drama

I'm an adult. I don't do strops and I can certainly take criticise.....but I think the response I got and particularly the tone of some....kinda demonstrates the point I was trying to make.

If that makes me persona non gratis on here...then so be it....I'm a big boy

I did not accuse you of being a troll, i merely said that your reluctance to engage with those who actually wanted to discuss the topic with you, could be considered by some as trollish behaviour.

and if memory serves you've still not enaged anyone who wants to discuss it with you.

so, do you want a genuine discourse or do you just want to continue this dance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

I wouldn't say any point has been proven on this thread. Of course he's going to get the expected violins responses. He even said it himself in the opening post. What I do think is that the OP has been watching the forums prior to his first post. He knows exactly what he was doing posting the thread. So it doesn't really prove anything. I am a single man. I haven't had any abuse since being on Fab. If I have messaged a single female or a couple and they have deleted/not responded/declined, I have accepted that and moved on. It stands to reason that any abusive replies would be a result of either similar abusive messages or.....maybe they haven't read the profile and have messaged a user not looking for single guys and it's clearly stated on their profile. This would lead to a/deletion of message b/no response c/sarcastic reply pointing out their profile content. A response of "c" would probably give rise to anger in the impatient ones amongst us. In general abuse isn't an automated response. It is a reaction. Actions cause reaction. So I would implore ALL users to read profiles before messaging anyone. Heed fab message warnings on profile preferences. Always be polite and courteous. Treat people how you expect to be treated. If you receive a less than polite message. Then ignore it and move on. Also people who receive unwanted mail. Help yourself avoid them in the first place. Use your message filters. Delete unwanted and block if necessary. Do you need to send a sarcastic message? No. Old saying, if you've nothing good to say, don't say anything. I guarantee fab would be a better experience for all. Lastly, exercise patience. The universe is a wonderful place and in my experience, what you give, you will get back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mate ur not always dealing with adults on here.there are lovely people here but u will see the same old sarcastic gobshites on this forum.ur best rising above them as its like a school yard.Well done for forumlating intelligent and articulate point of view.Its interesting to see how u hit a nerve with some of the bullys on here.Well done mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm confused by this thread. Am I reading it wrong or is the OP complaining that no one wants to have sex with him?"

typical sarcasm response.

manners and respect works both ways,

equality is a two-way street.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

This. Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't received any abuse myself, not much contact at all but it has always been polite when it happened.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view...

Fuck you DH!

Shut up, you perv!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't we just simplify this so...he can send myself,or any of us so called bullies a pm of the couples or singles who were rude or abusive to him...ask them their version of events and problem solved,if he deserves a public apology we will gladly give it...simple solution surely?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suggest everyone reads this forum again tomorrow from start to finish ....objectively !

I made my view know in the first thread....and I asked for discussion. ...what I got effectively was as follows:

Criticism of my profile

Accused of having a strop

Vitriolic comments (from just a few to be honest )

Accused of being a troll

Accused of seeking drama

I'm an adult. I don't do strops and I can certainly take criticise.....but I think the response I got and particularly the tone of some....kinda demonstrates the point I was trying to make.

If that makes me persona non gratis on here...then so be it....I'm a big boy

I did not accuse you of being a troll, i merely said that your reluctance to engage with those who actually wanted to discuss the topic with you, could be considered by some as trollish behaviour.

and if memory serves you've still not enaged anyone who wants to discuss it with you.

so, do you want a genuine discourse or do you just want to continue this dance?"

6 of one, half a dozen of the other

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Mate ur not always dealing with adults on here.there are lovely people here but u will see the same old sarcastic gobshites on this forum.ur best rising above them as its like a school yard.Well done for forumlating intelligent and articulate point of view.Its interesting to see how u hit a nerve with some of the bullys on here.Well done mate"

You must be reading a different thread to me so.

What the OP has done is thrown an elephant into the room and refused to discuss it. and the bulk of the replies have been reactionary

there have been two nerves hit here. the reactionary ones based on perceived slights, and the avoidance at discussing the topic in question.

it all went downhill from there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why don't we just simplify this so...he can send myself,or any of us so called bullies a pm of the couples or singles who were rude or abusive to him...ask them their version of events and problem solved,if he deserves a public apology we will gladly give it...simple solution surely?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The bulk of this thread demonstrates longdong's point / query.

He asked a question and he got aggressive replied and abuse.

As a couple we get similar tones. No idea why, perhaps it's because we are outside the clique.

Everyone gets grief at some stage, mostly from single guys,in our experience. He asked for a discussion but has avoided giving his view...

Fuck you DH!

Shut up, you perv!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i agree a few cheeky brats here , not nice .

if youf nothing nice to say . best to say nothing

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

Why dont you all change your views of others that use this site?? Men,women and couples need to change and not just one group of people.There was a very good thread about bad manners and rudeness last week and i think the same applies here. Mingo made a very valid and good point that all need to change and hes right or we ll be going around in circles forever. Guys should accept that no reply means no thanks or accept the other party isnt interested without questioning further or sending nasty mails in return,when a mail is responded to. The women and couples should make a conscious effort to reply to mail with a no thanks reply as common courtesy. Use the block button if mails are recieved after the response.

We re supposed to be a nation of a hundred thousand welcomes, thats kinda being proved a joke here.

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

As far as i'm aware, discussing private messages on the public forum is against forum rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If that's the case fair point...pity would ha e brought this to a simple conclusion,160 threads now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really? A kangaroo court? to what end? Even if you did, by the way, it's a ridiculous suggestion, how would you determine who was telling the truth? How would you decide who's account is right? who's word to take? Even if you did get the truth. What do you do then? Are you going to reprimand the user/s? Give them a telling off? It's like a witch hunt. Not constructive thoughts to have. My advise. Let it go.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

Would this thread hurt my head reading it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a buyers market for couples and women OP. Supply & Demand. The numbers make the odds short, its just the nature of it here. You gotta be a good salesman & be able to take rejection and move on. Ive been on here a number of times and i honestly cant remember any really rude responses to mails. You need to put some context into your experience to make your point on your thread here..ie what was rudeness you experienced and what was it in response too? It would help your point?

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

"If that's the case fair point...pity would ha e brought this to a simple conclusion,160 threads now

threads or responses to this thread ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If that's the case fair point...pity would ha e brought this to a simple conclusion,160 threads now

So only 15-18 to go...

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

As far as i'm aware, discussing private messages on the public forum is against forum rules. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would this thread hurt my head reading it.

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well in simple terms if someone made an accusation about is we would like the chance to respond...but you do have a point...time to let it go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well in simple terms if someone made an accusation about is we would like the chance to respond...but you do have a point...time to let it go

You'll feel better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If that's the case fair point...pity would ha e brought this to a simple conclusion,160 threads now

threads or responses to this thread ?"

Responses

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

Examples of text from couples profiles

'Single guys ...don't even bother'

'Are there any fukin single guys who can read'

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

That's a very fair and reasoned response dirtygirl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Examples of text from couples profiles

'Single guys ...don't even bother'

'Are there any fukin single guys who can read'"

That just shows you who to avoid. Acts as a filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're obviously easily upset OP. Condolences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Examples of text from couples profiles

'Single guys ...don't even bother'

'Are there any fukin single guys who can read'"

So you messaged even though their profile said they didn't want single guys?

Good form OP

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By *ongdongsilver99 OP Man
over a year ago

skerries

More examples

'Single guys forget it'

'If we want another cock we will contact u'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Examples of text from couples profiles

'Single guys ...don't even bother'

'Are there any fukin single guys who can read'"

And that is their choice, unfortunately the vast majority of single guys don't bother to read a profile and still mail, it wears thin after a while..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fairness ive seen stuff like that alrite

when your searching through profiles you can tick a box that just searches couples looking for single men and another one that only searches for age requirement matches. Do that and you shouldnt come accross that stuff

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"That's a very fair and reasoned response dirtygirl"

Thank you. If any males take offence to profiles that say "single males dont bother" why would you bother? Its the owner of the profile who is allowed word it as they see fit. If its not for you,pass it by..

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

It's a pity we run out of posts. I would love to ask you op as you refer that it's different in the UK, how do you know and why do you think it's different in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Needs to lighten up in here a bit. Everyone gets abuse, both on fab and off fab i believe its called the circle of life. Everyone gets abuse at some stage in their life take it on the chin avoid and move on. Simple. On another note any parties?

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