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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Most of you probley have seen the video of a protester on Facebook doing the rounds of a guard smacking him over the head with his baton. Is this getting out of control now or are the protesters asking for it personally I think it's abit extreme from a guard too use so much force on any human being crazy what do you guys think.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

While i wouldn't call myself anti-police, from how brutal the American police have gotten (I spend far too long reading American news for some reason), I've come to believe that far too many officers join, not to serve and protect, but to give them power and an excuse to be legally violent.

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By *galway1988Man
over a year ago

galway

Iv seem the video , the old man should never of been hit, but the original Guy not giving the cop his details Id to blame , cop was calm then went to arrest guy who resisted, wrong guy got the hit over the head ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try dealing with the French cop's, them lads think nothing of kicking fuck out of ya. Yes some times the Irish cop does push it to far but the odd kick up the hole wouldn't cdo a bit of harm to some toe rags on the street. Years ago there was a cop in this part. Tight hoor, if you stepped out of line he would give ya a bit of a slap. I tell ya, was to many around stepped out of line the 2nd night they were out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Iv seem the video , the old man should never of been hit, but the original Guy not giving the cop his details Id to blame , cop was calm then went to arrest guy who resisted, wrong guy got the hit over the head , "
that's what I'm saying in my eyes the cops have a right too ask u for your name iv bin stopped an asked for name and I complied with them fully and there was never any hassle but that was just wrong in some many levels of what the guard too that man and some people say they should be armed

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

the garda only serve themselfs, politions and the banks. the rest of us can go get fucked.

NOT ONE PERSON was arrested for the resession but its ok to hit a man across the head for not giving his name. This country is corrupt to the last. the garda are scum.

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"While i wouldn't call myself anti-police, from how brutal the American police have gotten (I spend far too long reading American news for some reason), I've come to believe that far too many officers join, not to serve and protect, but to give them power and an excuse to be legally violent. "

American police are gradually being militarised.

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By *galway1988Man
over a year ago

galway

"the garda only serve themselfs, politions and the banks. the rest of us can go get fucked.

NOT ONE PERSON was arrested for the resession but its ok to hit a man across the head for not giving his name. This country is corrupt to the last. the garda are scum."

I seem to remember some bankers are in jail, you also haven't seen video because the person not giving name was a different person , the Gardai are not scum either, some people there wanted trouble they got it, in other countries much worse would of happened if people push cops u got to know there will be reaction.

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

smells like bacon

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

I haven't seen video but I wouldn't judge cops by few videos,I'm sure theirs vids of cops getting dogs abuse at protests and not reacting

Most young cops iv dealt with seem fine,its the older 1s with the bad attitude

the lanky ignorant twats from the wesht that joined in the old days for the precious pensionable job are still there

The younger generation that joined during boom time with their choice of job joined for the right reasons

Always bad eggs tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just watched the video, sure them hoors in wexford aren't near wise, sure I hear the run their car on white diesel and everyone has tax on their cars, what's all that craic about????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"smells like bacon"

Careful now...or there might be a 'reaction'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions "

Mr69: believe me, the difference between the Irish police & UK police forces is staggering. One seems like a community support, the other seems to be a gang. I'm afraid I wouldn't trust the police here ever again.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

"Just watched the video, sure them hoors in wexford aren't near wise, sure I hear the run their car on white diesel and everyone has tax on their cars, what's all that craic about????"

There's white diesel???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just watched the video, sure them hoors in wexford aren't near wise, sure I hear the run their car on white diesel and everyone has tax on their cars, what's all that craic about????

There's white diesel???

Apparently so. Awful carry on. Sure I know a lad that wouldn't ride his first cousin after the dance 1 night.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just watched the video, sure them hoors in wexford aren't near wise, sure I hear the run their car on white diesel and everyone has tax on their cars, what's all that craic about????"
haven't a clue we dont drive an just aswel where from Dublin

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

city

"Just watched the video, sure them hoors in wexford aren't near wise, sure I hear the run their car on white diesel and everyone has tax on their cars, what's all that craic about???? haven't a clue we dont drive an just aswel where from Dublin

just seen the video.....that was well out of order what that garda done. Hitting someone on the head with a weapon is asking for trouble....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I haven't seen video but I wouldn't judge cops by few videos,I'm sure theirs vids of cops getting dogs abuse at protests and not reacting

Most young cops iv dealt with seem fine,its the older 1s with the bad attitude

the lanky ignorant twats from the wesht that joined in the old days for the precious pensionable job are still there

The younger generation that joined during boom time with their choice of job joined for the right reasons

Always bad eggs tho"
the video is shocking ok one guy deserved too be arrested with his attention seeking infront of his pals acting the idiot and hard man but one guy definitely did deserve a full smack across the face with a baton that was just so wrong but hey there's 2 sides too a story and the clip only last for about 2 mins I think what I'd like too know is what happened before it all kicked off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

Ian Tomdinson?? garda haven't killed anyone with a baton, police in london did,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

Ian Tomdinson?? garda haven't killed anyone with a baton, police in london did,"

Who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

Ian Tomdinson?? garda haven't killed anyone with a baton, police in london did,

Who?"

Ian Tomdinson,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions

Ian Tomdinson?? garda haven't killed anyone with a baton, police in london did,"

So they did recently in NL as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The facts of the video are.

The man was being arrested after --the garda were called to the hotel after reports of an assault.

-He failed to give his name which is an arrestable offence.

-numerous people tried to stop the arrest "peacefully" which makes them guilty of obstruction of police duty. And it was not peacefull, in any way.

I'm not saying that the garda was right to do what he done and it does look bad on camera but i know if i was surrounded by an angry mob I'd do the same to defend myself.

Many people are saying the man was elderly and shouldnt of been hit. I think if you're willing to interupt an arrest for assault you deserve the consequences.

If it was an arrest for trespassing I'd be on the protesters side. But imagine of you were assaulted, you would then want an arrest made.

People are too quick to jump on 'fuck the gardai' bandwagon. I have it on good athourity ( a former TD) that the county council were given a fund of €25 million euro to go to this auction, and buy those houses to give to families and to ease the housing problem in the area.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't be a Garda in this country for all the money in China. I have seen the video. The rent-a-mob are a serious headache for the Gardai in Ireland. They think that they know the law;they don't. The guy who was being asked for his name was justifabily arrested. Under Irish law if a garda suspects that you have been involved in or have knowledge of an assault, they are fully entitled to ask for your details. The gardai are obliged to tell you under which section of the relevant act they are they are requesting your details. They are not obliged however to quote the actual body of text within the act. That's what the rent-a-mob were insisting on. The guy involved in this case was actually impeding a garda doing his duty; an arrestable offence. If a garda goes to arrest somebody and a third party intervenes, the Garda is within his rights to use force to effect the arrest. Bear in mind he is also allowed to use force if he feels either himself, a colleague, a member of the public or his prisoners safety and or welfare are at risk.

In a split second under the durress that garda seemed to be under he may have judged that safety of people including himself was at risk. US watching the video now, from the comfort of our armchairs might deem it to be excessive. Put yourself in that gardas boots.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

NWA said it best.

They are hard men in groups. Windy fuckers when out of uniform and alone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The facts of the video are.

The man was being arrested after --the garda were called to the hotel after reports of an assault.

-He failed to give his name which is an arrestable offence.

-numerous people tried to stop the arrest "peacefully" which makes them guilty of obstruction of police duty. And it was not peacefull, in any way.

I'm not saying that the garda was right to do what he done and it does look bad on camera but i know if i was surrounded by an angry mob I'd do the same to defend myself.

Many people are saying the man was elderly and shouldnt of been hit. I think if you're willing to interupt an arrest for assault you deserve the consequences.

If it was an arrest for trespassing I'd be on the protesters side. But imagine of you were assaulted, you would then want an arrest made.

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Snap. We were posting the same stuff at the same time!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't be a Garda in this country for all the money in China. I have seen the video. The rent-a-mob are a serious headache for the Gardai in Ireland. They think that they know the law;they don't. The guy who was being asked for his name was justifabily arrested. Under Irish law if a garda suspects that you have been involved in or have knowledge of an assault, they are fully entitled to ask for your details. The gardai are obliged to tell you under which section of the relevant act they are they are requesting your details. They are not obliged however to quote the actual body of text within the act. That's what the rent-a-mob were insisting on. The guy involved in this case was actually impeding a garda doing his duty; an arrestable offence. If a garda goes to arrest somebody and a third party intervenes, the Garda is within his rights to use force to effect the arrest. Bear in mind he is also allowed to use force if he feels either himself, a colleague, a member of the public or his prisoners safety and or welfare are at risk.

Here here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hoess man stood on and pepper sprayed in Dublin earlier this year. Repercussions for the blue. Ottle thug? Absolutely none.

Man takes piss in Waterford. Gets beaten to a pulp. Garda thugs are jailed. Garda who is controlling cctv of the assault moves cameras away so beating can commence.

State sponsored thuggery. Windy fuckers when alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*Homeless

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hoess man stood on and pepper sprayed in Dublin earlier this year. Repercussions for the blue. Ottle thug? Absolutely none.

Man takes piss in Waterford. Gets beaten to a pulp. Garda thugs are jailed. Garda who is controlling cctv of the assault moves cameras away so beating can commence.

State sponsored thuggery. Windy fuckers when alone. "
agreed they take there power way out of human control don't get me wrong I know a few community guards are they are for the people and peace keepers doing exactly what they swore by in there oath but there's others that should be locked up for there behaviour among other humans

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

baz and frankie where are ya stationed. oink oink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've a few pals in the guards, I also drink with one. Some of the story's these lads would tell ya would rise the hair on the back of your neck. I wouldn't last s month as a cop, I'd bait now and ask later. Anyway, what about garda golden that was killed lately by a nut case. Maybe if he had went on kicking and punching at the but case with the gun he would still be alive. Maybe not. Put yourself in the cops shoes, your in a room that you don't want to be in, but as part of your job you must go in. Maybe while in there u eye up a few nutters that you know would think nothing oof sticking a knife in ya. Things start to get hot. You know that the room full of protesters hate you and don't want you there. The nutters are slowly starting to move in on you. Your filled with fear...what do you do? Well I know what I'll do. I'll fight for all I'm worth. Right I'm not saying what happened is right but if you were in a room and the fear of God was in you what would you do? Stand and cry for mammy and show everyone your weak? Or harden up and show them who's boss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry didn't read all replies.. But I personally think the Gardi get an awful hard time .. Everyone says ' ah the think they are above everyone else ' but in all fairness they do a pretty amazing job and deal with a lot of shit for fuck all money n very long hours.. One of my pals is a female Garda n the shit she gets is unreal..

Imagine dealing with the same problem for months on end every day .. I'd personally crack

Not condoning violence thou

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id fuck a female garda piggystyle.

Shit sorry I meant doggystyle. Most of the famale gardai nowadays are attractive. Not like years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Id fuck a female garda piggystyle.

Shit sorry I meant doggystyle. Most of the famale gardai nowadays are attractive. Not like years ago"

Awww maaaan!!!

This is my newest fantasy...

I want a bangarda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"baz and frankie where are ya stationed. oink oink."
At the minute, in your sister!!!

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

i don't have a sister, you must be mistaken her for your own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i don't have a sister, you must be mistaken her for your own. "
Mistaking....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a garda stationed in Wexford town. This lady is an absolute model. I'd love her to handcuff me sometime!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Id fuck a female garda piggystyle.

Shit sorry I meant doggystyle. Most of the famale gardai nowadays are attractive. Not like years ago"
Lol.

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

Garda on horse says to little girl on bike, "Did Santa get you that?" "Yes," replies the little girl. "Well tell him to put a reflector light on it next year!" and fines her 5 euros. The little girl looks up at the cop and says, "Nice horse you've got there, did Santa bring you that?" The cop chuckles and replies, "He sure did!" "Well," says the little girl, "Next year tell Santa that the d*ck goes under the horse, not on top of it!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry didn't read all replies.. But I personally think the Gardi get an awful hard time .. Everyone says ' ah the think they are above everyone else ' but in all fairness they do a pretty amazing job and deal with a lot of shit for fuck all money n very long hours.. One of my pals is a female Garda n the shit she gets is unreal..

Imagine dealing with the same problem for months on end every day .. I'd personally crack

Not condoning violence thou

Agreed!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Garda on horse says to little girl on bike, "Did Santa get you that?" "Yes," replies the little girl. "Well tell him to put a reflector light on it next year!" and fines her 5 euros. The little girl looks up at the cop and says, "Nice horse you've got there, did Santa bring you that?" The cop chuckles and replies, "He sure did!" "Well," says the little girl, "Next year tell Santa that the d*ck goes under the horse, not on top of it!""

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By *oxylady45Woman
over a year ago

N. Ireland

They're pussy cats compared to the Italian police ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Iv also seen a video of a guy being dragged on the ground by three of them with his head smacking off the ground as he has a seizure again bang out of order. Another one I seen is where every student was protesting over cuts and they got an awful beating for protesting and not moving but if there's a ton of people behind you where can you move too know where these are students future trades people country is just so sad when u see your police force use so much violence among people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out the videos on YouTube of the beatings the protesters got in bellmullet by the shell security force (gardai)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't read all mails some of the cops are ok but alot of them let uniform go to the head there targeting people for no tax on there car what about the heroin addicts that are walking the streets day and night robbing elderly people and terrorising them ah real cop would be making sure the elderly are safe alot of cops are bent

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"I didn't read all mails some of the cops are ok but alot of them let uniform go to the head there targeting people for no tax on there car what about the heroin addicts that are walking the streets day and night robbing elderly people and terrorising them ah real cop would be making sure the elderly are safe alot of cops are bent"

Because as per an exposé in the paper this year the cops are only interested in you if you're a motorist or a drug taker. That's what makes them money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because as per an exposé in the paper this year the cops are only interested in you if you're a motorist or a drug taker. That's what makes them money."
I know a woman 83 she was robbed going home from bingo and through was thrown to the ground afraid to go to shop now and cops did nothing that's low cops

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

ACAB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ACAB"

that fat prick in the video is certainly one

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

Time for the garda to do there jobs,Get the the muslim extremists out and stop beating up irish people at peaceful protests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Time for the garda to do there jobs,Get the the muslim extremists out and stop beating up irish people at peaceful protests."

the most sensible post I've seen in weeks pal well said.

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"ACAB

that fat prick in the video is certainly one

Which fat prick are you talking about?

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Time for the garda to do there jobs,Get the the muslim extremists out and stop beating up irish people at peaceful protests."

Where the fuck are the "Muslim extremists"? Has Donegal been taken over by isis?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://m.independent.ie/world-news/europe/-hebdo-attacks/irish-jihadis-at-mosque-under-garda-surveillance-30916089.html

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/returning-irish-muslim-fighters-definitely-a-threat-imam-1.2069115

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://www.evoke.ie/news/extremist-militants-in-ireland-gardai-tracking-30-jihadists-locally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Irish-police-arrest-ISIS-suspect-in-Dublin.html

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Time for the garda to do there jobs,Get the the muslim extremists out and stop beating up irish people at peaceful protests.

Where the fuck are the "Muslim extremists"? Has Donegal been taken over by isis? "

EWES I think MM.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Time for the garda to do there jobs,Get the the muslim extremists out and stop beating up irish people at peaceful protests.

Where the fuck are the "Muslim extremists"? Has Donegal been taken over by isis?

EWES I think MM."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-Irish-police-arrest-ISIS-suspect-in-Dublin.html"

Released without charge.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Its not all cops fault addicts walking streets robbing,its the justice system

They arrest them and they are let back out

Addicts shouldn't be in the justice system anyway,they should get free heroin from medical board and option of rehab and no more drug addict street crime

The minister is looking at new options atm but they will prob fall short

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By *onathan2244Man
over a year ago

carlow

I think they don't use enough force, arm them to the teeth and have them fight back, there is so much scum walking the streets let the guards use force as it is they have no respect from criminal gangs the seam to think they can rob any one, and get away with it, Drug dealers selling crap on street corners allow them to have the crap knocked out of them so what if a few get killed, they no loss any way

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"I think they don't use enough force, arm them to the teeth and have them fight back, there is so much scum walking the streets let the guards use force as it is they have no respect from criminal gangs the seam to think they can rob any one, and get away with it, Drug dealers selling crap on street corners allow them to have the crap knocked out of them so what if a few get killed, they no loss any way "

Yeah good suggestion you f***ing caveman!! May I suggest you move to Russia or some backwater where the cops go around intimidating everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people want to act the prick at protests then they deserve to get their heads smashed in,ordinary taxpayers are fed up of lazy socialists thinking society owes them a free ride,go out and get a fucking job and contribute to the economy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact is that the guards were called to the hotel after the mob started intimate guessed and someone alleged an assault took place. From what I was told from eye witnesses there were a number of people who were intent on causing trouble and that the guard reacted to being either kicked or something like that. How true it is I do not know but one thing is for sure most of those people is that video are not local gorey people!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The gaurds do their job .. U can't just go arrest someone u need evidence then a file has to go tru the DDP

Has anyone every had a serious problem and need the gaurds??

Go tru the motions .. Well I have.. The support of the gards in surrounding stations is unreal and trust me they are working overtime.. They are on call and always checking up on the case.. Just because their hands are tied with one situation doesn't mean they aren't working behind the scenes!!

But sure there's no point trying to get that across

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By *isalashes888400Couple
over a year ago

ennis

yes the cops are allowed use force wen NESSESARY,hardly not given ur name is a cause for getin a baton across the head.ffs.

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

city

"The fact is that the guards were called to the hotel after the mob started intimate guessed and someone alleged an assault took place. From what I was told from eye witnesses there were a number of people who were intent on causing trouble and that the guard reacted to being either kicked or something like that. How true it is I do not know but one thing is for sure most of those people is that video are not local gorey people!!!!"

I just want the gorey details

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"the garda only serve themselfs, politions and the banks. the rest of us can go get fucked.

NOT ONE PERSON was arrested for the resession but its ok to hit a man across the head for not giving his name. This country is corrupt to the last. the garda are scum."
. It is usually best to co operate with the forces if law and order . The garda have a difficult job to do..

Lots of people were made bankrupt during the recession. Where is you information coming from?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to be clear, the Gardai only have a right to ask you for details if they have "reasonable suspicion" that you have committed a crime. They have absolutely no right to ask you when you're just going about your business, or even standing at a protest. I dunno what this chap was doing, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was just being loud and a bit annoying - there's no law against that. Refusing to give details and obstruction are excuses the filth us all the time for when they arrest people for no reason, or when they batter people and then go "oh fuck, I better figure out an explanation for this".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My parents house was robbed a year ago we caught the scum in the field took the guard station is less than 10 minutes away took them a hour the lad's were standing in the field with items from the house in there hands and guards said they have no evidence I just like to say there is some really good and nice guards out there

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions "
. If you don't argue with the police,I don't think you will encounter any brutality . Many people are an architect of their own misfortunes ..If you fail to co operate , you have no sympathy from me.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

yes the cops are allowed use force wen NESSESARY,hardly not given ur name is a cause for getin a baton across the head.ffs."
Why would any normal person refuse to give their name ?

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By *ukkakewhoreWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

"They are the first people we go to when we need help, good n bad in all professions . If you don't argue with the police,I don't think you will encounter any brutality . Many people are an architect of their own misfortunes ..If you fail to co operate , you have no sympathy from me. "

So just be a sheep and do as your told??

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

So just be a sheep and do as your told?? "
. With the police and garda yes..What is to be gained by arguing with them?. I prefer to be helpful and co operative .

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A young man in this twenties died last night in garda custody in Dublin airport.

With the video thing too it's going to be a really bad week ahead PR wise for them and questions in the dail no doubt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes the cops are allowed use force wen NESSESARY,hardly not given ur name is a cause for getin a baton across the head.ffs. Why would any normal person refuse to give their name ? "

Because they want to maintain their personal privacy? Because they might not want a member of a violent and well-organised gang of thugs to know anything about them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we talking about the guards here or SF,

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

yes the cops are allowed use force wen NESSESARY,hardly not given ur name is a cause for getin a baton across the head.ffs. Why would any normal person refuse to give their name ?

Because they want to maintain their personal privacy? Because they might not want a member of a violent and well-organised gang of thugs to know anything about them?"
. I fail to understand why anyone would give their name to an organised gang of thugs , what my comment said was that you should co operate with the police or garda , in any event your privacy is irrelevant . Surely we should all be helping the forces of law and order to stop and prevent crime.

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By *andydevineMan
over a year ago

sligo

whats happening in county mayo in ballmullet is a disgrace. we are loosing billions of euros in revenue and the garda are protecting shell allowing them to steal it. the only money shell is paying is to corrupt political and garda members.

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