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"Hi - I was told by a couple that they only have Only Bareback Sex with Others. I was Shocked by this!!!! I would be Interested to know Yer Opinions & Views on this.... " Not a hope, i wrap up all the time | |||
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"Hi - I was told by a couple that they only have Only Bareback Sex with Others. I was Shocked by this!!!! I would be Interested to know Yer Opinions & Views on this.... " Wouldn't be my choice, but then condoms do not protect fully against many STDs and it appears that the majority of people do not use condoms or dental dams for oral anyway - several STDs can be passed on via oral sex. | |||
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"Hi - I was told by a couple that they only have Only Bareback Sex with Others. I was Shocked by this!!!! I would be Interested to know Yer Opinions & Views on this.... " Stop being so outraged. Shit happens. Don't fuck them if you don't want. Problem solved. People on here really need to stop worrying or being shocked on how others behave. If you don't like it then don't meet them. End of story | |||
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"Protection at all times for me. But hey if thats their choice fair play to them its what they like so more power to them. Steph" Fair play to them? More power to them? Jesus | |||
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"Hi - I was told by a couple that they only have Only Bareback Sex with Others. I was Shocked by this!!!! I would be Interested to know Yer Opinions & Views on this.... Stop being so outraged. Shit happens. Don't fuck them if you don't want. Problem solved. People on here really need to stop worrying or being shocked on how others behave. If you don't like it then don't meet them. End of story " | |||
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"Hi - I was told by a couple that they only have Only Bareback Sex with Others. I was Shocked by this!!!! I would be Interested to know Yer Opinions & Views on this.... Stop being so outraged. Shit happens. Don't fuck them if you don't want. Problem solved. People on here really need to stop worrying or being shocked on how others behave. If you don't like it then don't meet them. End of story " Shocked but we agree with you on this | |||
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"Protection at all times for me. But hey if thats their choice fair play to them its what they like so more power to them. Steph Fair play to them? More power to them? Jesus " I've been rejected countless times for refusing to do bareback. The problem is some hard up any hole is a goal type mightn't be so cautious and then go on to meet others who will then meet others and so on. They say in Ireland there are seven degrees of separation between everyone but that has to be significantly less on the swing scene. Food for thought. These fools endanger everyone to some extent in my view. | |||
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" So is it wrong that people do this? Not really. " Of course it's wrong! Why do you insist on condoms yourself then? | |||
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" So is it wrong that people do this? Not really. Of course it's wrong! Why do you insist on condoms yourself then? " Because the only person you can really trust is yourself. You quote one line of my post when the very next line, you ignore which makes my point. So let me go into more detail. Is there a right way to go about bareback? I would assume so, but having done so little bareback in my life (and I was once fucking married) I'm no expert on the subject but i would assume that there are people in the swing community, who may play amongst themselves, possibly bareback. To think otherwise would be very naive. It's how they go about it that matters. Do all parties produce recent test results? I dont know. never done it, couldn't tell you. People lose the run of themselves, it can happen. The only thing you can do is try not to be one of them, and protect yourself. If anyone has opposing views to mine, or wishes to correct me in any way, please do. A frank discussion on this subject is better than none at all. | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom." You can't know for certain that you don't know anyone that has AIDS | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom. You can't know for certain that you don't know anyone that has AIDS " | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom." They may not know either. What you do with your sexual health is your business. What anyone does with their sexual health is their business. Regular check ups even if using protection are part of just good general health practices. | |||
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"Jesus rode an ass bare back... So it's probably blasphemy as well as dangerous " ahaha lols | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom. You can't know for certain that you don't know anyone that has AIDS " You would know if someone has aids because they would be dieing, well would have. I think they effective treatments these days or even a cure? hiv you would not know someone had I think you mean. Either way hiv/aids primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. It's not something an average person is ever likely to come into contact with in the western world as far as I'm aware. | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom. You can't know for certain that you don't know anyone that has AIDS You would know if someone has aids because they would be dieing, well would have. I think they effective treatments these days or even a cure? hiv you would not know someone had I think you mean. Either way hiv/aids primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. It's not something an average person is ever likely to come into contact with in the western world as far as I'm aware." Only gay men and junkies wow you do know it's not discriminatory? Any one can get it | |||
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"Well I don't know anyone that has aids and never have, and if I did I would not have sex with them regardless if I had a condom. You can't know for certain that you don't know anyone that has AIDS You would know if someone has aids because they would be dieing, well would have. I think they effective treatments these days or even a cure? hiv you would not know someone had I think you mean. Either way hiv/aids primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. It's not something an average person is ever likely to come into contact with in the western world as far as I'm aware." Only gay men and junkies wow you do know it's not discriminatory? Any one can get it | |||
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"primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. Take me out of context why don't you. " You just made it sound like if you're a straight male or female and don't do intravenous drugs you can't get it | |||
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"primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. Take me out of context why don't you. " Why not. You say primarily in those two groups rather than saying the majority. If you don't understand the difference By saying primarily you are saying that MOST cases are in the intravenous drug user and gay groupings. The majority (ie over half) are. You falsely minimize the risks in the other groupings. Presumably you consider bi sexuals are a risk? | |||
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"primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. Take me out of context why don't you. Why not. You say primarily in those two groups rather than saying the majority. If you don't understand the difference By saying primarily you are saying that MOST cases are in the intravenous drug user and gay groupings. The majority (ie over half) are. You falsely minimize the risks in the other groupings. Presumably you consider bi sexuals are a risk?" I think he simply wishes to ignore the fact that anyone regardless of sexual status , is at risk of HIV if they go bareback during sex. Or as the locals would say , he is talkin through his ass. | |||
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"Yeah well anyone walking through a forest is at risk of being abducted by aliens too. " Do not worry, apparently aliens abduct the intelligent | |||
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"You're some man for one man cork69." I have my moments, whatever this means. | |||
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"Not a chance maybe after several meets but defo not the first. " Dont con yourself that's any safer. Unless you both get tested clear and abstain from any risky activity for up to 6 months (that it can take for an infected person to show a positive on a hiv test), then there is a risk. And even if you DO all that, you still don't know for sure if your partner did. Bareback is always a risk in reality. See above to see how much of a risk. | |||
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"Firstly, we always use condoms for full sex on meets, but here are some interesting stats on the subject... www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html If you have one off unprotected sex with someone who has the hiv virus then the transmission rates are very low. Eg.. Approx 4 in 10,000 for a man having vaginal sex with an infected woman. Aporox 8 in 10,000 for a woman having vaginal sex with an infected man. Other groups of people are WAY more at risk than swingers. Consider that 2 out of 3 smokers will die of a smoking related illness, and antiretroviral drugs mean that you can expect a fairly normal life expectancy these days after hiv infection. Just providing perspective, don't take risks people. H" Thank poster for posting stats and telling it like it is and reenforcing my argument. You would have to try petty hard to get hiv from unprotected sex. There are much more common std's that are orders of magnitude more contagious. | |||
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"primarily spreads in intravenous drug users (junkies) and gay men. Take me out of context why don't you. " Junkies made up approx 5% of Irish infections, and 46% were men who have sex with men. You are therefore technically correct as these groups make 51% of Irish infections taken together. | |||
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"Crossin the road is risky too... Just sayin " yea have to look left and right first lol ah sure i hold ur hand. | |||
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" Given that huge numbers of hetrosexuals are HIV positive and do not realise." Maybe in Africa. Your opinion. Seriously this a moot argument. | |||
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"Licking pussy. Rimming, sucking cock, swallowing cum male or female ,call it a hunch but I'd say its the same risk as bare back, but then again I'm no STD doctor" Not same risk, oral is significantly lower than that of penetrative sex. | |||
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" Given that huge numbers of hetrosexuals are HIV positive and do not realise. Maybe in Africa. Your opinion. Seriously this a moot argument." Listen , if you want to bury your head in the sand feel free. Before you do, try a little research on the subject, it is not opinion it is fact. By the way, am a swinger long enough to know that their are a damn lot of people who do not give a shit about their sexual health, let alone that of the people they meet. Your comment re Africa is merely amusing to be honest | |||
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"Crossin the road is risky too... Just sayin yea have to look left and right first lol ah sure i hold ur hand. " ONE: look for a safe place.... | |||
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"Crossin the road is risky too... Just sayin yea have to look left and right first lol ah sure i hold ur hand. ONE: look for a safe place...." i forget TWO lol woops | |||
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"Crossin the road is risky too... Just sayin yea have to look left and right first lol ah sure i hold ur hand. ONE: look for a safe place.... i forget TWO lol woops " Tut tut tut. KNOW THE CODE.. | |||
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"Approximately 7 in every 100,000 people in Ireland have been diagnosed with hiv. More than half of those are men who have sex with men. So if you are having random heterosexual sex with straight partners then it's more like under 3 in 100,000. It's impossible to say how many have it and don't know it though. " I know that, you know that. So do most people. I was just commenting on spainsheyes drivel. I'm amazed she has the brain power to move her fingers enough to type. She or it, is obviously and halfwit or just a plain garden verity troll. Her comment on Arica I find little disturbing as well, so I assume she is both. | |||
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"Crossin the road is risky too... Just sayin yea have to look left and right first lol ah sure i hold ur hand. ONE: look for a safe place.... i forget TWO lol woops Tut tut tut. KNOW THE CODE.. " All I can hear us that song now guys | |||
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"Firstly, we always use condoms for full sex on meets, but here are some interesting stats on the subject... www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html If you have one off unprotected sex with someone who has the hiv virus then the transmission rates are very low. Eg.. Approx 4 in 10,000 for a man having vaginal sex with an infected woman. Aporox 8 in 10,000 for a woman having vaginal sex with an infected man. Other groups of people are WAY more at risk than swingers. Consider that 2 out of 3 smokers will die of a smoking related illness, and antiretroviral drugs mean that you can expect a fairly normal life expectancy these days after hiv infection. Just providing perspective, don't take risks people. H" I'm just curious about your comment about smokers... what's that anything to do with bareback sex?? | |||
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"Firstly, we always use condoms for full sex on meets, but here are some interesting stats on the subject... www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html If you have one off unprotected sex with someone who has the hiv virus then the transmission rates are very low. Eg.. Approx 4 in 10,000 for a man having vaginal sex with an infected woman. Aporox 8 in 10,000 for a woman having vaginal sex with an infected man. Other groups of people are WAY more at risk than swingers. Consider that 2 out of 3 smokers will die of a smoking related illness, and antiretroviral drugs mean that you can expect a fairly normal life expectancy these days after hiv infection. Just providing perspective, don't take risks people. H I'm just curious about your comment about smokers... what's that anything to do with bareback sex?? " I'd assume that he's pointing out that if someone has HIV it's not a death sentence? | |||
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"I was at the GUM clinic in June and had an interesting conversation with a member of staff. I made them aware that I was on a swingers site. She was very curious about how important safe sex was on it. She told me about a swinging couple who came in for testing (the wife had an sti). That couple told her amongst the swinging community couples they play with regularly, it would be an insult to even discuss using condoms. Makes you think. But like someone said above, it's best to just mind ourselves. " This is the ultimate in stupidity - any adults who refuse to countenance discussion of safe sex should be avoided like the plague - I wonder how many in the circle besides the one tested had the STD at that point? | |||
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"Approximately 7 in every 100,000 people in Ireland have been diagnosed with hiv. More than half of those are men who have sex with men. So if you are having random heterosexual sex with straight partners then it's more like under 3 in 100,000. It's impossible to say how many have it and don't know it though. I know that, you know that. So do most people. I was just commenting on spainsheyes drivel. I'm amazed she has the brain power to move her fingers enough to type. She or it, is obviously and halfwit or just a plain garden verity troll. Her comment on Arica I find little disturbing as well, so I assume she is both." It shall type slowly so as to penetrate your thick skull. In 2014 , there were 183 reported cases of HIV passed through homosexual sex. 123 cases passed through hetrosexual and 27 via drugs. Those presenting with advanced symptoms were found in the hetrosexual group. Now that is only 60 between the first two groups, so the notion that gay males are more likely to present with HIV in Ireland is not true. The fugures for the UK amongst hetrosexuals is even higher, and there has been a rise of 34% in Western Europe amongst hetrosexuals over recent years. Hence my amusement that you think the problem is in your words African amuses me, but you are too thick to get sarcasm. So dear insult me with the troll comparison all you wish, often it is the last resort of one not capable of adult discussion. | |||
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"I was at the GUM clinic in June and had an interesting conversation with a member of staff. I made them aware that I was on a swingers site. She was very curious about how important safe sex was on it. She told me about a swinging couple who came in for testing (the wife had an sti). That couple told her amongst the swinging community couples they play with regularly, it would be an insult to even discuss using condoms. Makes you think. But like someone said above, it's best to just mind ourselves. " It's shocking that she considered it an insult to discuss condoms. I have to say that's not at all normal in my experience. Condoms use is always assumed and expected on any meets we've had. | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? " Personal opinion here, bareback is more pleasurable. Condoms can be uncomfortable and can reduce sensation too much sometimes. Having said that, I haven't been bareback in donkey's years and don't intend to be either. | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? Personal opinion here, bareback is more pleasurable. Condoms can be uncomfortable and can reduce sensation too much sometimes. Having said that, I haven't been bareback in donkey's years and don't intend to be either. " U had to being needin in to it | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? Personal opinion here, bareback is more pleasurable. Condoms can be uncomfortable and can reduce sensation too much sometimes. Having said that, I haven't been bareback in donkey's years and don't intend to be either. U had to being needin in to it " Neddy loves being rode bareback! | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? Personal opinion here, bareback is more pleasurable. Condoms can be uncomfortable and can reduce sensation too much sometimes. Having said that, I haven't been bareback in donkey's years and don't intend to be either. " You haven't been bareback on a donkey in how long. | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? Personal opinion here, bareback is more pleasurable. Condoms can be uncomfortable and can reduce sensation too much sometimes. Having said that, I haven't been bareback in donkey's years and don't intend to be either. You haven't been bareback on a donkey in how long. " Neddy has moved on to greener pastures | |||
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"Putting aside the 'health&safety' of using Condoms, can I ask a sex question on topic. As I woman I find using condoms enhances sex especially when using ones like rimmed, sensual tingly ones & flavored etc etc (& of course 1's that makes him last longer lol) so am I right assuming that it's the guys that mainly want bareback & is it actually really more pleasurable or just because it's kind of taboo nowadays to do ?? " No. You'd be assuming wrong. Plenty of women want bareback on here, they're just not going to publicly say it on here. | |||
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