FabSwingers.com forum: Cecil-what's your views?

By *hocoholic OP Woman
over a year ago

The big D

It's everywhere, Facebook, TV, news etc. Its a horrible story & ppl are now saying... why are we not caring as much about human killings & showing as much outrage.. What's ur views??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think we are so caught in iurbown bubble. If it doesn't concern us people down bother.

The news everyday is all doom and gloom.

I tend not to read the sad story's on papers,

People just to stop and take heed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's everywhere, Facebook, TV, news etc. Its a horrible story & ppl are now saying... why are we not caring as much about human killings & showing as much outrage.. What's ur views?? "

Absolutely appalling, the guy deserves to be punished.

The day a lion can wander around with a rifle slung over its shoulder, then the game is fair.

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By *osafewordneededMan
over a year ago

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I think there is a lot of outrage over human deaths, I mean look what happened because a balcony fell, or some got shot on a beach.

Sure some deaths dont get noticed, but you cant be crying non stop you have to live.

As for killing a lion. It's the most cowardly act a human can do. Lions dont run away, they sit in shade, they will come over th jeeps to get shade. "Hunters" just drive up in a jeep and shoot them. All of the lions children will now die and thats sad because cecil would have been an alpha lion for generations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't bought a paper In years.

All negative.

That was discusting killing that beautiful creature.

It's rare that's why it was so shocking. as for that excuse for a man.... Words fail me. People kill each other all the time. We are just immune to that now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lions and other big game have been hunted and killed by cunts long before Cecil, its annoying how celebs are now jumping on the bandwagon, is it coz the lion had a name??? Remember gorillas in the mist??? Poaching is around a loooong time..maybe if the celebs, such as Arnie, gave some of their millions to stop it instead of posting tripe on Facebook it may help...

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By *yrone-fem43Woman
over a year ago

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he,s a vile cowardly human being who needs to be punished for what he did and for him to say he did,nt know he was a tracked lion thats bullshit ,hope he,s hunted for life no more than what he deserve,s !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some lives are worth more to the media than others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Something deeply disturbing about a man from middle class America who would spend $55k to travel to Africa and shoot a lion with a crossbow. Don't understand it. Lions are beautyfull animals. Don't get it. ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it is disgusting. But it's no different to the terrier work fox hunting that goes on here. At least the big cats etc usually just get killed with a single shot. Not mauled apart first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is disgusting, not alone did he kill a national treasure, he killed an enendangered animal, lured it out of the national park, wounded it and then killed it a day later, how is that not cruel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Digusting one of my favourite animals hole he get thrown into jail for this one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People do care and do express their outrage over human deaths and voilence against humans but because there are incidents every other day we cannot bombard social media day in day out. The killing of the lion was such a rare act it made the headlines and moreso because he had a name and was on a tracker, and also because of the insane money that exchanged hands. Sick bastard. I'd be inclined to think that if people had this kind of cash at their disposal they would find other ways of getting a thrill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

I find it nearly equally disgusting that the only reason this story is big news is because the lion killed happened to be famous, and people taking matters in their own hands based on what's put out there instead of letting justice take its course and waiting for all the facts.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even if the guy was duped in to thinking it was wild...it's still wrong...

I hope he gets time but I'm thinking in a fairly corrupt country) /world that he will buy his way out or get away lightly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion."

I agree it shouldn't matter just because it was Cecil. All lions should get the same media attention.

Lions are listed as vulnerable IUCN red list, it's population having declined by up to 50% in the last 20 years.

It's vital that we ban all hunting and provide better protection from poachers because in another 20 years we may not have lions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion.

I agree it shouldn't matter just because it was Cecil. All lions should get the same media attention.

Lions are listed as vulnerable IUCN red list, it's population having declined by up to 50% in the last 20 years.

It's vital that we ban all hunting and provide better protection from poachers because in another 20 years we may not have lions

Refreshing, someone gets it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion.

I agree it shouldn't matter just because it was Cecil. All lions should get the same media attention.

Lions are listed as vulnerable IUCN red list, it's population having declined by up to 50% in the last 20 years.

It's vital that we ban all hunting and provide better protection from poachers because in another 20 years we may not have lions

Refreshing, someone gets it

I'm passionate about conservation, I did a project on the Asiatic lion and it's status about 2 years ago and it's sad to say that these will definitely go extinct if we don't tighten our international cross border laws worldwide and increase breeding programs as well as reintroduction programs

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By *eus112Man
over a year ago

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I don't know why someone would kill a lion for fun????? He's a stupid man but I hear on the news etc he's been subject to a lot of rough justice. His family members are under constant abuse and his dentistry business has been boycotted.

I'm not sure what the hell he was thinking but two wrongs don't make it right.

There are a lot of people suffering in the world and they don't review this scale of media attention.

That's my 10p worth anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's everywhere, Facebook, TV, news etc. Its a horrible story & ppl are now saying... why are we not caring as much about human killings & showing as much outrage.. What's ur views?? "

We're not under threat of extinction...

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

as someone who used to hunt a lot when I was younger mainly rabbit deer duck pheasant etc and I would shoot foxes as pest control. the idea if hunting for sport is sickening especially when the animal is shot with an arrow and sufferers then stalked then shot with a handgun to put it out of its misery. as someone mentioned fox hunting with hounds and hare coursing are just as bad. all trophy hunting and blood sports should be banned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion.

I agree it shouldn't matter just because it was Cecil. All lions should get the same media attention.

Lions are listed as vulnerable IUCN red list, it's population having declined by up to 50% in the last 20 years.

It's vital that we ban all hunting and provide better protection from poachers because in another 20 years we may not have lions

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Excellent post..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"as someone who used to hunt a lot when I was younger mainly rabbit deer duck pheasant etc and I would shoot foxes as pest control. the idea if hunting for sport is sickening especially when the animal is shot with an arrow and sufferers then stalked then shot with a handgun to put it out of its misery. as someone mentioned fox hunting with hounds and hare coursing are just as bad. all trophy hunting and blood sports should be banned. "

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

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Around 600 lions are killed every year for trophies.

I think there should be 600 public outrages and 600 convictions every year but there's not.

All this media coverage because cecil was famous and it makes for good reading just makes me cynical

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By *owdyBoobyMan
over a year ago

limerick

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion."

I bet theyll make a film about this now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world is full of people who kill animals for fun, not too far from me is an estate which hosts shooting parties for people whose idea of fun is shooting tame pheasants who practically walk up to you because they are accustomed to people.

I don't see what makes that any less reprehensible than what the US dentist did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personaly, I'm very much against hunting for sports, I find it disgusting and outragious, and no longer of this time.

Let's be honest here, this is ONLY a story because it's Cecil the lion, it wouldn't have even registered had it been any other lion.

I bet theyll make a film about this now. "

Born Free 2: run dentist run?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world is full of people who kill animals for fun, not too far from me is an estate which hosts shooting parties for people whose idea of fun is shooting tame pheasants who practically walk up to you because they are accustomed to people.

I don't see what makes that any less reprehensible than what the US dentist did."

Exactly, it's a reprehensible act but there are many other similar acts that go unnoticed without trial by twitter/media.

People love a good sensationalist story to get vexed about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what got people most was the lion was a treasure of Zimbabwe. The fact that the dentist paid for the pleasure of hunting him in a reserve where hunting the animals is against the law. What he did was poaching end of and i hope that he is jailed for the pleasure of paying a ridiculous amount of money, destroying his business and shaming his family worldwide was worth the hunt and the money it cost him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see what makes that any less reprehensible than what the US dentist did.

Exactly, it's a reprehensible act but there are many other similar acts that go unnoticed without trial by twitter/media.

People love a good sensationalist story to get vexed about.

Bingo, everyone jumps on the bandwagon like the sheep they are, while blithely ignoring what's going on around them every day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just ignore the news and live in a bubble of optimism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just ignore the news and live in a bubble of optimism

A certain amount of denial is necessary for survival

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Denial of what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Denial of the reality of life, death and human nature

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

P.S. what a silly name for a lion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can embrace life, reality and death.

Why fool yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can embrace life, reality and death.

Why fool yourself?"

I don't - yet people call me a cynic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"P.S. what a silly name for a lion."

I would guess it's after Cecil Rhodes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"P.S. what a silly name for a lion.

I would guess it's after Cecil Rhodes"

*opens new tab....

Ah, yes. That would make sense. Maybe Mugabe signed the hunting license?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"P.S. what a silly name for a lion.

I would guess it's after Cecil Rhodes

*opens new tab....

Ah, yes. That would make sense. Maybe Mugabe signed the hunting license?"

Every man has his price

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"P.S. what a silly name for a lion.

I would guess it's after Cecil Rhodes"

Reckon he rode all round him. Wonder was he a fab member. Surprised The Lion hasn't commented yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"P.S. what a silly name for a lion.

I would guess it's after Cecil Rhodes

Reckon he rode all round him. Wonder was he a fab member. Surprised The Lion hasn't commented yet."

He's probably trying to win his belt back.

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To the op. Humans are animals too, it's just we are not endangered like lions are, yet.

It's an appalling act killing any animal for sport, committed by an appalling individual that doesn't even qualify as a human being and rightly deserves the title of most hated man in the world of 2015.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meanwhile hundreds are drowning every week in the Indian Ocean trying to escape war and no one seems to give a shit.

Only this week the Irish navy boarded a make shift boat and found 14 people including children crushed to death. 1 or 2 news articles and all is forgotten again. A lion named Cecil gets shot and the whole world goes crazy. Funny world we live in all the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the Lion in more important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in=is even.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the Lion in more important."

Is that one of those comments that's meant to shock people and make then angry or is it your attempt at humour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think of it this way. If my dog and your child fell into a lake at the same time, I would jump in and rescue my dog first. Call me weird. See if I care. Why? Because my dog means more to me than your neglected child that fell into a lake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think of it this way. If my dog and your child fell into a lake at the same time, I would jump in and rescue my dog first. Call me weird. See if I care. Why? Because my dog means more to me than your neglected child that fell into a lake."

That's not weird at all that's more fucked up to even be thinking of a scenario like that. Probably explains why you've no verifacations too with a mentality like that, it's something most women can spot a mile off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is their child neglected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May well be true. Sue me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is their child neglected"

It fell in the lake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is their child neglected

It fell in the lake."

That doesn't mean neglect.though? I fell in a lake as a child and I was by know means neglected, exact opposite i was the happiest and most cared for child but accidents happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

48 yr old keyboard warrior must be angry at the way his life has panned out so takes it out on imaginary neglected kids. Sad really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is their child neglected

It fell in the lake.

That doesn't mean neglect.though? I fell in a lake as a child and I was by know means neglected, exact opposite i was the happiest and most cared for child but accidents happen"

True I was washed off the rocks at North Bondi and carried all the way home bloodied and bruised to my mother by strangers when I was 10 years old. Was that her fault. No. Shit happens. But you will rescue your family first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is their child neglected

It fell in the lake.

That doesn't mean neglect.though? I fell in a lake as a child and I was by know means neglected, exact opposite i was the happiest and most cared for child but accidents happen

Ya true I'd save my family first and go back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is their child neglected

It fell in the lake.

That doesn't mean neglect.though? I fell in a lake as a child and I was by know means neglected, exact opposite i was the happiest and most cared for child but accidents happen

So what's that got to do with Cecil the lion , the people drowning daily in the Indian Ocean and your dog and my child falling into a lake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even if the guy was duped in to thinking it was wild...it's still wrong...

I hope he gets time but I'm thinking in a fairly corrupt country) /world that he will buy his way out or get away lightly "

No...he is white.....Mugabe is the heart of all corruption and hates the whites!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Probably, never had to choose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Probably, never had to choose."

Have u had to choose?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A strangers child that is not your.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess I was lucky those guys didn't own a dog when they saved me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's just wrong. Oh, & dogs can swim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's everywhere, Facebook, TV, news etc. Its a horrible story & ppl are now saying... why are we not caring as much about human killings & showing as much outrage.. What's ur views?? "

I think it was the manner in which he was killed, a dead animal attached to the back of a truck enticing him out of a reserve to be be hunted. Arnold Swartzenigger tweeted the perfect response. If (the hunter) wanted a fight he should pick it with one of his own species #notoriousmma

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah it probably is. Just the way I grew up. All animals are equal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's just wrong. Oh, & dogs can swim."

The forum is a great place to figure out someone's mentality.

This guy seems angry at life and kids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok whatever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe I'll save your kid one day? Probably not over losing my dog for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any interest in meeting a couple?

I'm sure it would be an interesting night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I would not want to meet you either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I would not want to meet you either.

Must be the same answer you've given people the past ten months is it? Key board warrior.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whats a keyboard warrior? Never mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I adore my dog, she is another part of our family.

However I would jump into and save a child if the two were drowning in a lake.

Two reasons, human bloody instinct to save another human and secondly the dogs intinct is to preserve its own life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I adore my dog, she is another part of our family.

However I would jump into and save a child if the two were drowning in a lake.

Two reasons, human bloody instinct to save another human and secondly the dogs intinct is to preserve its own life."

Exactly

Like most rational people would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...Two reasons, human bloody instinct to save another human and secondly the dogs intinct is to preserve its own life."

Perfectly put. Cork, it was a silly thing to say but I know you'd save the kid, then help Dingo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog."

Sure a dog can swim, I've put my one life at risk to save my friends brother when he feel into the sea, absolutely stupid what I did but I'd do it again, would I go in after a dog in the same situation probably not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are your kids my problem? That's what welfare is for. Go fuck yourselves. Tell someones that cares.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog.

It is not stupid, people react to a sutuation, they see another human in difficulty, so they rush in to save that persons life.

The same reason why people go into burning buildings to save others ect.

Fear can stop some from reacting, but your gut instinct is to save lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are your kids my problem? That's what welfare is for. Go fuck yourselves. Tell someones that cares."

And you are the guy who claimed earlier that he had thought about staring a new forum

Goidluck with it, am sure people will rush to join.

Not!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog.

It is not stupid, people react to a sutuation, they see another human in difficulty, so they rush in to save that persons life.

The same reason why people go into burning buildings to save others ect.

Fear can stop some from reacting, but your gut instinct is to save lives."

It was stupid because when I did my life saving they do tell you that your life is the most important but the child was four and if I didn't go in that was it, a massive.gamble that paid off but could have ended up with the two of us drowning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog.

It is not stupid, people react to a sutuation, they see another human in difficulty, so they rush in to save that persons life.

The same reason why people go into burning buildings to save others ect.

Fear can stop some from reacting, but your gut instinct is to save lives.

Thank god it was you that was there and not another guy like cork69

Fair play to u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kinglim are u saying you'd rescue your dog before a child drowning?

Oh God no, I'd rescue a child over a dog.

It is not stupid, people react to a sutuation, they see another human in difficulty, so they rush in to save that persons life.

The same reason why people go into burning buildings to save others ect.

Fear can stop some from reacting, but your gut instinct is to save lives.

Thank god it was you that was there and not another guy like cork69

Fair play to u "

I think I did the same as a decent person would who is also b strong swimmer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who do we have to pay to hunt internet gobshites???

"Bang"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who do we have to pay to hunt internet gobshites???

"Bang"

I'm sure there is a dentist somewhere that would do it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently Cecils brother, Jericho, has been killed by a poacher. Jericho was minding Cecils cubs when he was shot dead by poachers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apparently Cecils brother, Jericho, has been killed by a poacher. Jericho was minding Cecils cubs when he was shot dead by poachers. "

Figures. Humans being. Why bother. And all the tree huggers are crying save the planet. lol

I don't think the planet has anything to worry about, just let nature take it's course and humans will be instinct soon enough and the 3rd stone from the sun will carry on just fine. And so will the lions and dogs and drowning kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come to think of it, my dog would probably jump in the water with me to help save a strangers drowning child.

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over a year ago

"48 yr old keyboard warrior must be angry at the way his life has panned out so takes it out on imaginary neglected kids. Sad really "

The man is entitled to his opinion, like it or not. Attack the post not the poster.

There is an element of the pot calling the kettle black in your post you must admit....a vitriolic attack because you don't like what he said. Grow up.

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By *each_PittWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

I have no strong feelings either way.

I'm not an animal lover and I am neither pro nor anti hunting.

The thing that's been on my mind are the ordinary folk who work in the dentists. He's shut up shop but are the staff still being paid? What about their jobs?

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over a year ago

I think that would be the last thing on his mind right now. He is probably in fear of his life. I don't think he would be worrying about his visa card not working.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Problem solved.

It seems Prince Harry is off to South Africa to fight against poaching.

"In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps (soundly?) tonight".

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