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"We love it but don't involve third parties in it. Something for us and us alone." I can see what you mean there, it's an intimate thing | |||
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"We love it but don't involve third parties in it. Something for us and us alone." Exactly! It should be left to 2 people.. Trust is a massive factor!!! | |||
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"Yeah def with the right guy though has to be with someone I trust alot..." Totally agree has to be with someone I can trust 100% | |||
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"Yeah def with the right guy though has to be with someone I trust alot... Totally agree has to be with someone I can trust 100% " Trust is definitely the basis of it all especially when you wander further into the dark depths of s and m, Trust and reassurance is what keeps a person from getting emotionally and physically damaged | |||
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"Yeah def with the right guy though has to be with someone I trust alot... Totally agree has to be with someone I can trust 100% Trust is definitely the basis of it all especially when you wander further into the dark depths of s and m, Trust and reassurance is what keeps a person from getting emotionally and physically damaged" Some people want to be damaged. Loads of people say they need trust for it. But the same people are first to give up their bodies at a whim to people they barely know. There are different levels I think. I dunno maybe I'm just pissed cause I'm Dropping like a stone after a BDSM filled weekend | |||
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"I always wonder how much it is possible to trust a Dom you've exchanged a few messages from over the Internet. It's ALWAYS a gamble. I guess you have to weigh up the risk vs reward. Let's not pretend it isn't a risk though. People can and do get hurt. People can and do have wonderful experiences. I guess we are all risk takers to some extent on here. " Ty for articulating what I was trying to say in a less snarky way | |||
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"I always wonder how much it is possible to trust a Dom you've exchanged a few messages from over the Internet. It's ALWAYS a gamble. I guess you have to weigh up the risk vs reward. Let's not pretend it isn't a risk though. People can and do get hurt. People can and do have wonderful experiences. I guess we are all risk takers to some extent on here. " I suppose a risk is always taken initially but I'd always meet someone socially first so you get a feel for them luckily for me, I've only had amazing experiences with people i feel comfortable with | |||
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"I would disagree Lim. I wouldn't trust kitty with anyone from here bdsm after a few months. Too many plastic Doms/Dommes who don't have a clue what they are doing. Trust takes time and effort to earn. Not something done in a short amount of time. " Well over the course of a few months I believe I could trust a person, I'm not saying you meet and then next week you are dominating someone or them you | |||
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"I would disagree Lim. I wouldn't trust kitty with anyone from here bdsm after a few months. Too many plastic Doms/Dommes who don't have a clue what they are doing. Trust takes time and effort to earn. Not something done in a short amount of time. Well over the course of a few months I believe I could trust a person, I'm not saying you meet and then next week you are dominating someone or them you" But it does happen | |||
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"I would disagree Lim. I wouldn't trust kitty with anyone from here bdsm after a few months. Too many plastic Doms/Dommes who don't have a clue what they are doing. Trust takes time and effort to earn. Not something done in a short amount of time. Well over the course of a few months I believe I could trust a person, I'm not saying you meet and then next week you are dominating someone or them you But it does happen " All I know is I like what I'm doing and I'm quiet happy to continue it | |||
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"I don't get this risk thing. The risk is having poor judgement and meeting a nutjob from the dregs of society. A safe word should cover everything else. " Safe words are useful yea, but sometimes people are so far into subspace that they are unable to use them. That's where they need to trust that you know what you're doing and can see that. | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. " If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm" My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? " Exact point I was trying to make aswell. And some people will "groom" for several months before they show their true colours. And what is a defenceless restrained sub supposed to do while in that vulnerable position with an abusive person. Throw a word at them... A safe word is a word that is used in a trusting relationship. Which takes time and work. | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? " No but you start slowly, you don't dive in head first, you discuss boundaries, etc.. it's working for me, maybe I'm just lucky | |||
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"...It works better when your in a relationship with the other person!... " I dunno about that. The added thrill of someone who isn't your partner can be quite thrilling. | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? Exact point I was trying to make aswell. And some people will "groom" for several months before they show their true colours. And what is a defenceless restrained sub supposed to do while in that vulnerable position with an abusive person. Throw a word at them... A safe word is a word that is used in a trusting relationship. Which takes time and work. " I think this is fear mongering for the most part. I've no doubt there are nutjobs out there but with 100s of guys to choose from you girls can surely not end up meeting them with a bit of cop on. Abuse/assault would be easily traced back to the abuser for prosecution anyway. Although maybe emails asking for it could blur the lines of investigation. | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? No but you start slowly, you don't dive in head first, you discuss boundaries, etc.. it's working for me, maybe I'm just lucky" If you're powerless and restrained then discussing boundaries with someone who doesn't respect them isn't gonna stop you getting hurt. You would also likely be able to use physical force to get your way out of a situation if you had to. It's not so easy for others. I realise I'm talking about a worst case scenario, and in most cases things woukd be fine... but it DOES happen here. I've spoken to people who have had issues in this area. | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? No but you start slowly, you don't dive in head first, you discuss boundaries, etc.. it's working for me, maybe I'm just lucky" I think the safest way is to have a full time partner/husband or wife with you when you play(especially when being gagged and tied up).. anything else is just too risky especially if you are being tied up by someone you met on one of the sites... | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? No but you start slowly, you don't dive in head first, you discuss boundaries, etc.. it's working for me, maybe I'm just lucky If you're powerless and restrained then discussing boundaries with someone who doesn't respect them isn't gonna stop you getting hurt. You would also likely be able to use physical force to get your way out of a situation if you had to. It's not so easy for others. I realise I'm talking about a worst case scenario, and in most cases things woukd be fine... but it DOES happen here. I've spoken to people who have had issues in this area. " Ya I completely understand, it's easier as a guy due to my size, strength etc.. I understand that there are people who are into bdsm because they like to abuse and others who are into it because they see it as self harm by proxy. I guess it's just hugely complex scene | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? No but you start slowly, you don't dive in head first, you discuss boundaries, etc.. it's working for me, maybe I'm just lucky I think the safest way is to have a full time partner/husband or wife with you when you play(especially when being gagged and tied up).. anything else is just too risky especially if you are being tied up by someone you met on one of the sites... " Totally agree with u if the Dom is let's say new to u a person u have built trust with sitting in the corner is not an out of the way request | |||
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"...It works better when your in a relationship with the other person!... I dunno about that. The added thrill of someone who isn't your partner can be quite thrilling." Absolutely agree with Candy here giving yourself completely to a stranger can be exhilarating and a whole new level. Wouldn't recommend it from a sensible point of view though but wow, what a rush! | |||
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"Yes that can be a problem. Some are so sub they find it hard. That also assumes that the 'Dom' will respect the safe word. That's by no means a given. If a dom doesn't respect the safe word then they don't respect the sub and it's abuse not bdsm My point exactly. The problem is knowing the difference. Can you tell an abuser from a coffee meet? Exact point I was trying to make aswell. And some people will "groom" for several months before they show their true colours. And what is a defenceless restrained sub supposed to do while in that vulnerable position with an abusive person. Throw a word at them... A safe word is a word that is used in a trusting relationship. Which takes time and work. " Totally agree x! Bdsm is great tho x love it! | |||
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"Numerous valid points have been made and all by people who we as a couple we respect. We will say one thing. The safe word situation was mentioned where a sub is so deep in subspace they couldn't utter the safe word if they tried. This does happen. If say you don't know the sub well enough you could do serious damage or worse to them. If kitty is in distress I know it straight away for the simple fact I know my girl that well. " A good Dom will always pay attention to the verbal and nonverbal signals and check on with a new sub as to how they are. As the relationship develops and grows that understanding should deepen so yes your right lots of fun to be enjoyed with safe sane people | |||
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"Bd yes, I'll pass in the sm thanks" Same here | |||
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"I always wonder how much it is possible to trust a Dom you've exchanged a few messages from over the Internet. It's ALWAYS a gamble. I guess you have to weigh up the risk vs reward. Let's not pretend it isn't a risk though. People can and do get hurt. People can and do have wonderful experiences. I guess we are all risk takers to some extent on here. " But isn't that true for people not on here as well, is it any less of a risk to meet someone in a club/pub and trust them a handful of 'dates' later? | |||
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