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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This week in the country has baffled me completely.

Tulsa withdraw 100% of RCNI (Rape Crisis Network Ireland) funding

Lone parents (98% of whom are women) face a loss in income with cuts

And the details of the Miss Y cases review are just shocking in how the HSE acted and how she was treated.

In my opinion, these are all gender based decisions that do no good for females in Ireland. These decisions do so much damage.

Do the women on here feel like we live in a sexist society?

We know about double standards on here but do you come across sexism on a day to day basis?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, especially in previous jobs. Overlooked for promotions and my decisions over turned when a male colleague suggests something different, and time proved that I was right, but no mention of that from male bosses. Maybe in larger companies the gender gap is closing but in smaller companies it is still very much alive

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes, especially in previous jobs. Overlooked for promotions and my decisions over turned when a male colleague suggests something different, and time proved that I was right, but no mention of that from male bosses. Maybe in larger companies the gender gap is closing but in smaller companies it is still very much alive "

I would agree that there's definitely still a glass ceiling and 'boys club' mentality in a lot of companies /sectors. I faced it myself in previous roles too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being the wrong gender I wouldn't necessarily be victim of female sexism but I certainly don't agree it's as prevalent as people suggest.

I work in a male dominated sector. However, the times I have seen women in jobs, they have been happy to perform their given job without any obvious interest in gaining a higher job. Whereas some of the men had desires immediately to gain a promotion and worked toward that end. That's only in my personal opinion. I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist. I'm sure it does in certain areas. Just not as prevalent as is reported I believe.

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By *osafewordneededMan
over a year ago

City

We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated.

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

city


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated."

loan parents don't necessarily have to be women.....I am a loan parent..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated.

loan parents don't necessarily have to be women.....I am a loan parent.."

I said that in the OP that 98% of lone parents are women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of curiosity, how many that avail of the rape crisis centre are men? Since you implied it was sexist to give them money instead of to lone parents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men get raped too, it's a real thing people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men get raped too, it's a real thing people "

Have to agree rape is not gender specific

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men get raped too, it's a real thing people

Have to agree rape is not gender specific"

Nor are lone parents!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated.

loan parents don't necessarily have to be women.....I am a loan parent.."

Ah here, if you're a parent your a loan parent!

& to back Fran, men don't get pregnant.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"23pc of callers to the Dublin Rape Crisis helpline last year were men and, on average, one in 10 victims of rape in this country are male."

I never said that men don't get raped or that all lone parents are women. The stats are there to show that the majority of rape services are used by women and the majority of lone parents are female though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This week in the country has baffled me completely.

Tulsa withdraw 100% of RCNI (Rape Crisis Network Ireland) funding

Lone parents (98% of whom are women) face a loss in income with cuts

And the details of the Miss Y cases review are just shocking in how the HSE acted and how she was treated.

In my opinion, these are all gender based decisions that do no good for females in Ireland. These decisions do so much damage.

Do the women on here feel like we live in a sexist society?

We know about double standards on here but do you come across sexism on a day to day basis?"

Is there no womens network that can organise to lobby politicians and protest nationwide to have these draconian measures overturned ??

Nessa Childers is very active as an MEP in Europe.

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated."

Massive generalisation here lone parents is a mine field there those that set out to milk the system and those that had no choice trough berevment or other mis fortune. Others that chose to be lone parents and dont claim anything from the state.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there wasn't so much fraud when it comes to the lone parent allowance they might not have to cut it for the genuine people. There's a huge amount claiming lone parent allowance while still in a relationship with the father, but the father is on the dole and couldn't be arsed working. If the authorities clamped down on that I'm sure theyd make enough savings to keep the rate as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated."

63% of lone parents actualy work..

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

city


"We give too much to lone parents.

How much a lone parent gets should depend on the job they had when they became pregnant and how they lost that job.

If they were unemployed then they should get nothing. If they had a job and were building a family and going about things the right way then they should get money.

As for rape crisis, sure Ireland has a shocking record in that department. They need money and an overhaul of how women are treated.

loan parents don't necessarily have to be women.....I am a loan parent..

Ah here, if you're a parent your a loan parent!

& to back Fran, men don't get pregnant."

sorry I ment lone parent not loan parent....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""23pc of callers to the Dublin Rape Crisis helpline last year were men and, on average, one in 10 victims of rape in this country are male."

I never said that men don't get raped or that all lone parents are women. The stats are there to show that the majority of rape services are used by women and the majority of lone parents are female though."

Because men who get abused are afraid to come forward, they see it as shameful and that they are less of a man if the wife is beating them. Statistics prove nothing really as it's all based on what's reported

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I don't like about the whole sexism debate is introducing gender quotas. Political parties now have to have a certain amount of women running for election. There isn't many female politicians because women don't want to do it. Big deal.

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Look at primary teaching - majority of graduates year on year are female. Is that sexism against men? I don't hear any men complaining. Majority of civil engineers are men. Is that sexism too? I'm just picking two examples from opposite ends of the spectrum. I think alot of people see sexism where it doesn't exist. I have the same opinion of racism.

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By *randub69Man
over a year ago

city


"What I don't like about the whole sexism debate is introducing gender quotas. Political parties now have to have a certain amount of women running for election. There isn't many female politicians because women don't want to do it. Big deal.

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Look at primary teaching - majority of graduates year on year are female. Is that sexism against men? I don't hear any men complaining. Majority of civil engineers are men. Is that sexism too? I'm just picking two examples from opposite ends of the spectrum. I think alot of people see sexism where it doesn't exist. I have the same opinion of racism. "

the government are letting men into teacher collage ahead of women with better qualifications because they are trying to bring the male numbers up at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting as I didn't think the Government had an influence on the CAO system. However I am only speaking anecdotally from the 10 or so primary school teachers I know that have qualified in the past 6 or 8 years. I don't have graduation statistics.

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

around

Court case against nuig this week regarding the unfair difference in pay between male and female staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What I don't like about the whole sexism debate is introducing gender quotas. Political parties now have to have a certain amount of women running for election. There isn't many female politicians because women don't want to do it. Big deal.

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Look at primary teaching - majority of graduates year on year are female. Is that sexism against men? I don't hear any men complaining. Majority of civil engineers are men. Is that sexism too? I'm just picking two examples from opposite ends of the spectrum. I think alot of people see sexism where it doesn't exist. I have the same opinion of racism. "

The majority of graduates year on year are mostly female because teaching has always been viewed by society as a nurturing role..

Teaching also gives women with children the bonus of not having to pay for childcare during school holidays.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4000 Irish women travel abroad every year to get an abortion. These women have to make a life changing difficult choice. Yet the state doesn't care and criminalises them. They don't have the right to choose. I doubt that law was made by women...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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4000 Irish women travel abroad every year to get an abortion. These women have to make a life changing difficult choice. Yet the state doesn't care and criminalises them. They don't have the right to choose. I doubt that law was made by women... "

100% right and that is one dark trip across the water...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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4000 Irish women travel abroad every year to get an abortion. These women have to make a life changing difficult choice. Yet the state doesn't care and criminalises them. They don't have the right to choose. I doubt that law was made by women... "
and that is sexist how? Your point made have merit but it is not appropriate in a discussion about sexism. Especially considering the fact Ireland WAS a staunchly Catholic nation when the laws were created.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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4000 Irish women travel abroad every year to get an abortion. These women have to make a life changing difficult choice. Yet the state doesn't care and criminalises them. They don't have the right to choose. I doubt that law was made by women... and that is sexist how? Your point made have merit but it is not appropriate in a discussion about sexism. Especially considering the fact Ireland WAS a staunchly Catholic nation when the laws were created."

Agree with Bambi however my heart goes out to any woman making that trip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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4000 Irish women travel abroad every year to get an abortion. These women have to make a life changing difficult choice. Yet the state doesn't care and criminalises them. They don't have the right to choose. I doubt that law was made by women... and that is sexist how? Your point made have merit but it is not appropriate in a discussion about sexism. Especially considering the fact Ireland WAS a staunchly Catholic nation when the laws were created."
it's sexist because it's men who made that law. It's also sexist that if this comes up for referendum men will have the right to vote whether a woman has the right to take ownership of her own body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Abortion laws are based on the notion the fetus is another human being and should be given protection.

If the laws where put in place solely to control womens reproduction choices ect simply on the grounds they are women, then yes it`s sexism..

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