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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi anyone hitting the city today for the water protest? Hopefully it will be a good turn out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just pay it and stop whinging

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just pay it and stop whinging

God no!...it's just the unfairness of the whole thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We mighten have to pay it yet all up to the EU now and even they are having problems with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though. "

To be honest with yea mate i think people have it to late to protest now should of down it years ago when all this started up in this first place.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"Just pay it and stop whinging

God no!...it's just the unfairness of the whole thing."

What's unfair about it? You may not like it but is it not fairer than a "hidden" charge in your tax bill?

(Said by someone in Northern Ireland with no charge!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And don't get me wrong there are sides to the water charge I disagree with. But it's a service. No more than gas or electric.

I pay enough USC every year to pay the water charge 20 times over. Money that used to be in my pocket.

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

We have been paying for water for years....we have our own well and pump that we have to maintain plus we pay for the electricity to run the pump if the well goes dry or the pump goes its our problem I would love to be on the water mains.....and we also pay the USC.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have been paying for water for years....we have our own well and pump that we have to maintain plus we pay for the electricity to run the pump if the well goes dry or the pump goes its our problem I would love to be on the water mains.....and we also pay the USC....."

What's your point? You aren't getting charged the new charges. Same difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?"

Because we don't live in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?

Because we don't live in the UK? "
but why complain? We got away scot free for years without paying for certain things! We had it lightly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?

Because we don't live in the UK? but why complain? We got away scot free for years without paying for certain things! We had it lightly "

You may be happy spending your life as a sheep, some of us aren't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?

Because we don't live in the UK? but why complain? We got away scot free for years without paying for certain things! We had it lightly

You may be happy spending your life as a sheep, some of us aren't."
no we as a country no matter what charge comes in, we moan and complain! It could be anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though. "

Great point

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

What's your point? You aren't getting charged the new charges. Same difference. "

My point is for some ppl in this country ...ppl with wells and on private water schemes paying for water is nothing new

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's a build up of all the taxs/charges or whatever you want to call it.

Local Property Tax for example, if you seen something for it in your area eg..New wing put on the nearest hospital or 5 new play areas for kids to use or a local astro soccer pitch being built well then I wouldn't have an issue paying it.

USC...don't get me started...it's just being shipped out and seeing nothing for it. What else will the geniuses in government think up next but I feel we have to make some type of a stand.

Because other countries have the water charges it doesn't mean that we have to. Sure Switzerland has euthanasia .....should we?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi anyone hitting the city today for the water protest? Hopefully it will be a good turn out."

Which city?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sure Switzerland has euthanasia .....should we?

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a build up of all the taxs/charges or whatever you want to call it.

USC...don't get me started...it's just being shipped out and seeing nothing for it. What else will the geniuses in government think up next but I feel we have to make some type of a stand.

Because other countries have the water charges it doesn't mean that we have to. Sure Switzerland has euthanasia .....should we?

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yes we should have

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You may be happy spending your life as a sheep, some of us aren't."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's your point? You aren't getting charged the new charges. Same difference.

My point is for some ppl in this country ...ppl with wells and on private water schemes paying for water is nothing new"
you're effectively agreeing with me so. Thought you weren't. Hence I couldn't understand what you were trying to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1. We pay for water already.

2. This is an asset grab by a private company that must be resisted at all costs. Look up what's happening in Detroit with their water supply and how they treat people who can't pay and tell me if you want to see our elderly people treated that way.

3. Irish water are hiring private security who are threatening and intimidating local residents and refusing to be identified. Gardai are standing by and watching,doing nothing. It's Shell to Sea all over again.

4. Water is a human right. Not a product.

5. Do they owe us a living ?. Of course they f****kin do. We MUST protest this and win.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"1. We pay for water already.

4. Water is a human right. Not a product.

5. Do they owe us a living ?. Of course they f****kin do. We MUST protest this and win."

Totally agree....well said.

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

What's your point? You aren't getting charged the new charges. Same difference.

My point is for some ppl in this country ...ppl with wells and on private water schemes paying for water is nothing newyou're effectively agreeing with me so. Thought you weren't. Hence I couldn't understand what you were trying to say"

Yes I was .....the only thing I don't agree with is charging ppl who who at the moment are unable to drink the water parts of galway, Roscommon e.t.c. that is just beyond belief

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

Bring back fianna fail

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's your point? You aren't getting charged the new charges. Same difference.

Yes I was .....the only thing I don't agree with is charging ppl who who at the moment are unable to drink the water parts of galway, Roscommon e.t.c. that is just beyond belief"
I believe they aren't being charged until they have suitable water. At least that was last I heard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only so far you can push a nation before it revolts.

Taxes,fees USC the working classes are getting screwed.

Their is only so far a persons wages will stretch I for one will not be paying judge that how you may but its my free right to stand for what I view is a load of bollix!

Rant over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bring back fianna fail "
and I thought me saying pay the water charges was going to be controversial hahaha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The great appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!...

Jim Larkin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just pay it and stop whinging

Lol garda garda garda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though. "

Personally sir I think you are a gobshite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does this mean we have to pay for watersports??? SHOCKING

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though.

Personally sir I think you are a gobshite

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thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to me. No opinion voiced from behind a computer screen hiding in your bedroom makes any difference to me. Only when people have the balls to say it while looking me in the face matters.

Brave man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a well and a sceptic tank. We had to pay to have the well bored, we had to pay for the sceptic tank to be installed, we pay for the electricity to keep the pump running and to get the sceptic tank de-sludged. The provision of water to your door and sewerage away costs money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having lived in countries where we had to drink bottled water only or risk getting very sick, I would honestly have no issue paying for high quality, fresh drinking water... But I've yet to find any here!!

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"Does this mean we have to pay for watersports??? SHOCKING

Only if you drink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though. "

Totally with you there! We've been paying to bail out the banks long enough!!! Now they're making money again, they should start paying us back ffs!!!!!

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

When I moved to Ireland many moons ago I was asking how much is the water rates was a utility bill and was just excepted and had been for years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know when they set up the esb and built the dam in Ardnachrusa in the 1920s it was argued that we there should be no charge for electricity.

I've seen the workmen for irish water. Decent people doing a job.

I've seen the protesters assemble at 7 am while everyone else was going to work. And I know who needs the garda protection.

Yup. Don't pay water. Pay 45 euro a month for sky sports. Up the shagging revolution

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

I am on a well and a septic tank all installed at my own expense

Water in this country has being provided by co councils for years where did the money come for this taxes, as was waste collection. Some bright spark in a government grab thank decided to privatise waste collection this was fed down to the councils and in time it was brought in county by county. I now pay three hundred euro a year for waste collection where did the money I pay in taxes that previously payed for this service go I certainly didnt get a tax rebate or credit for it.

Water is a similar story we pay trough taxes yes I pay for the provision of water that I have no connect to trough my taxes. U can see the inequality there I am sure I pay for someone else's water while I have to run maintain and test my own well. However when the charge comes in to place will I get a tax rebate or a credit NO. There for to me its a money grabbing mechinism being brought in to build up a company which will be sold off to the highest bidder in years to come

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

"I have relatives in the uk who are paying for water all their lives! Why shouldn't we?

Because we don't live in the UK? but why complain? We got away scot free for years without paying for certain things! We had it lightly

You may be happy spending your life as a sheep, some of us aren't.no we as a country no matter what charge comes in, we moan and complain! It could be anything "

Maybe if we complained and took action on those complains long ago rather than just talking about it the quality of services in this country would have improved years ago and we would have no problem paying for a quality service

After this u can bet the powers that be will think twice before trying to introduce a new tax, in future if we get no more out of this other than government sitting up and taking notice that we are not sheep that whisper our discontent in quiet corners. Then smile and nod as we shake hands when they are looking for our vote to retain their jobs every five years,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Granted I have a limited understanding of the no sides argument - but in my simple brain this is how I see it

Water costs money to produce

Up till now it was subsidised by the state in one form or anther

The state can't afford to pay it anymore

Water does not come for free therefore we need to pay to have it produced to a safe drinking level for the whole country

If we do not pay then the gov will increase taxes elsewhere as the money has to come from somewhere

So we are going to pay either way, we have always paid, either way

Least this charge is transparent

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By *illow1972Man
over a year ago

Naas

I'm fully registered and paid up.

Life is way too short to be worrying about things like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have a well and a sceptic tank. We had to pay to have the well bored, we had to pay for the sceptic tank to be installed, we pay for the electricity to keep the pump running and to get the sceptic tank de-sludged. The provision of water to your door and sewerage away costs money."
just so you know, septic tanks work better when you don't empty them. So save your money on that element. They are designed never to be emptied. Ever.

Unless you put detergents into it, from washing machine etc. In which case, having the tank in first place is just a complete waste of time.

I'm sure all this info is readily available online to back what is only friendly advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'd much rather pay water charges than the USC.

There was no protests when that was introduced though. But I have my own opinions on why that is. I won't be starting that argument though.

Personally sir I think you are a gobshite

thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to me. No opinion voiced from behind a computer screen hiding in your bedroom makes any difference to me. Only when people have the balls to say it while looking me in the face matters.

Brave man"

Lol yea keep watching those movies Rambo

lol

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