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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have a question for men here having an argument with a friend here ,how would you feel if a woman said unless you earn a 1000 euro a wk a relationship wouldn't work out .pls men give me your opinions and women too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

don't let the door hit you on the way out. if a relationship is as shallow as that then it isnt worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she take my money when im in need,

yeah shes a trifling friend indeed,

oh shes a golddigger way over town,

that digs on me.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My brother in law once said he would never work for under €100 a day.... we all looked at him like

he is regretting it ever since..

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim

I'd tell her to get on her bike! What I earn - whether it's a little or a lot - doesn't change the person I am. If anybody wanted my friendship just because I have a few material possessions I wouldn't give them the time of day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She needs to move into the playboy mansion with heff!!! Heff would look after her!

Good man the heff!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If and that's a big IF, I ever have another relationship the woman will have no clue about what I am earning. Once bitten twice shy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

She said its because she was married for 10 yrs ,and now she wants a man to spoil her.i get the spoil bit every so often but what i put to her was if he was a trolley boy would she date him and she said she said no because he didn't earn enough money

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

IM being told now its about ambition and drive and a man should have a good career

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"IM being told now its about ambition and drive and a man should have a good career"

No.....it's about being a selfish gold digger

No self respecting woman would treat a man like that!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To be fair she went out with a guy who did have money and she didn't stay with him .she says looking to future the man needs to have a good wage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah bullshit being honest the less u earn the better the relationship being honest cash cannot buy soul friendship himself is on a very low income but i love him for what he is an not his wallet girls and guys like that are spoilful wagons if u ask me

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By *unfella 1Man
over a year ago

dublin

Would never be interested in any woman that thinks like that. I can spot em a mile off, think a man is like a high end handbag. How much can I get out of him, that's all that goes through their heads. Guy could be the nicest, great personality and great looking and all they are interested in is what's in his wallet. Shallow women like that are just so unattractive no matter what they look like, for me anyway

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

What a unattractive aspect of her personality !...I get she maybe had a certain level of lifestyle she would like to maintain ...maybe ........ But this isn't a dating site.... Maybe she needs to redress her ermm criteria and have a bit of fun. ...shallow attracts shallow !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmmmm give her my number , she sounds like what I have been looking for all my life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what a load of ballix tell yer mate to catch a grip maybe?

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By *oughandCurvyCouple
over a year ago

galway

Is that how much she earns a week? If so then it's a bit shallow but reasonable maybe she feels that she would intimidate a man with a lower wage?

If she isn't earning that much or at all then I would say that it's women like that who stand in the way of gender equality, you can't expect to be treated as an equal if you don't treat others equally! This makes my blood boil!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Money can't buy u love. My friend went out with a girl for a year. After 3 foreign holidays a couple of weekends away in a west cork spa an he had no change left outta 50 grand. She left him. Cod he was skint

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

Whe would she want me to earn that little?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she needs 2 cope on.get down of cloud 9.wake up and smell the coffee.she is no friend just a gold digger.grab all she can.when she had a guy with money why dident she stay with him and bleed him dry,or did he cope on 2 her fast.if so well done me good man

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By *longshottMan
over a year ago

Limerick

I'm dropping my weekly income for no woman.

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By *illow1972Man
over a year ago

Naas

Is she a cracker? If she is a cracker then it's perfectly permissible.

Can't bate an auld cracker on the arm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen this happen quite a bit. . I even experienced it a little. . . People constantly judge each other whether they realise it or not. . Be it what you do or earn. . Where you are from . . What you drive . . What you look like. . How you treat people. . .how you dress. . Who you have been with. . What you did. . What you said. .. Or worse what someone elses opinion of them is. . . . Truth is we all form opinions of people which is a judgement of sorts. . Can anyone really say they never did. . . .

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

If she's only after a man with money then it's perfectly acceptable....... As long as she has no problem being traded in for a younger model when her looks fade.

Turnabout is fair play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc."

Ya, I've had girls on this site and others ask what i work at and when I tell them the messages stop. I'm a truck driver not a drug dealer or something! And I do alright, but I suppose it's not seen as a profession as such. Someone's profession would never put me off dating someone.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc.

Hey nothing wrong with truck drivers. .. whet would we be without them! Job snobbery is horrible. ... These days most people are just glad to have a job. ..If that's her "criteria" that's up to her ...I hope she is in that same position as she is most likely to meet someone with the same attitude. .. like attracts like!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc.

totally agree mate very same myself esp on pof i got blocked cause my job wasnt good enough at the time, many ladys are looking for there David Beckhams at the moment must have a fast car and loads of money in ur wallet these days to find a girlfriend its unreal.

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

That's why during the boom I found Irish woman so up their arses about this thst I refused to date them. Foreign women didn't really care....as long as I had a job!

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By *ncognito4nowWoman
over a year ago

Greater (much greater) Belfast

"A lot of Irish girls are like that. First question a lot of girls ask you is what you work at.

I have seen beautiful girls not able to get a decent bf because they dont have work etc.

I would ask someone what they work at just to get a bigger picture of them... if the guy is a genuine decent fella it wouldn't matter if he had never worked!

We all have history and our own stories so maybe she has a reason why she comes across as seriously shallow?....

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By *ickirishallsortsMan
over a year ago

Lickie Manor

[Removed by poster at 21/11/14 09:38:08]

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By *ickirishallsortsMan
over a year ago

Lickie Manor

"I have a question for men here having an argument with a friend here ,how would you feel if a woman said unless you earn a 1000 euro a wk a relationship wouldn't work out .pls men give me your opinions and women too"

I'd ask what is your friend bringing to the party?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for years i struggled to bring up up a family on my own . i work full time paid my mortgage paid my bills and brought up my kids

all of this on just my income times where sometimes tough . my kids are now grown up and moved out .

i now have a nice house good job no bills as such and holidays when i feel the need all paid for by myself

and i take great pride in i dont depend on someone to take care of me

so when i read this it made my blood boil

tell your friend if she wants a 1000 a week try and find a job that will pay that

and if she finds one will she let me know if there looking for any more staff

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

"for years i struggled to bring up up a family on my own . i work full time paid my mortgage paid my bills and brought up my kids

all of this on just my income times where sometimes tough . my kids are now grown up and moved out .

i now have a nice house good job no bills as such and holidays when i feel the need all paid for by myself

and i take great pride in i dont depend on someone to take care of me

so when i read this it made my blood boil

tell your friend if she wants a 1000 a week try and find a job that will pay that

and if she finds one will she let me know if there looking for any more staff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does ur friend earn that much

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

just to settle a few ppl here she isn't on here it was i was arguing with her over her comment which is why i put it to the forum .for me i thnk its status and snobbery but i wouldn't say gold digger because if she was she would of stayed with the last guy who had money.Thank you for the comments

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"for years i struggled to bring up up a family on my own . i work full time paid my mortgage paid my bills and brought up my kids

all of this on just my income times where sometimes tough . my kids are now grown up and moved out .

i now have a nice house good job no bills as such and holidays when i feel the need all paid for by myself

and i take great pride in i dont depend on someone to take care of me

so when i read this it made my blood boil

tell your friend if she wants a 1000 a week try and find a job that will pay that

and if she finds one will she let me know if there looking for any more staff

and me lol.... You should be proud of yourself my friend. .. What a great achievement and a lovely girl with it

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By *ickirishallsortsMan
over a year ago

Lickie Manor

The following story used to make the rounds on the Internet. The events probably didn’t happen exactly as described, but for my purposes it doesn’t really matter, it might just answer your question Kinkylady1.

Supposedly, a woman posted the following personal ad on Craigslist:

“What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25-year-old girl. I’m articulate and classy. I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least [a] half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a businessman who makes average around 200 – 250K. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000K won’t get me to Central Park West. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms.

- What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings.

- Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the Upper East Side so plain? I’ve seen really “plain Jane” boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the East Village. What’s the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows — lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY.

Please hold your insults — I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them — in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

The response she got was as follows:

Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said, here’s how I see it:

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party, and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub — your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity … in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms, you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain: you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35, stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold … hence the rub … marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following: if my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful” as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe, if you are as gorgeous as you say you are, that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout. By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way. Classic “pump and dump.” I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

Ahh Mr lick..... You always make me smile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or I would say yes I earn that much.go out for dinner..run up a bill of €250 and tell her I need to pop to the toilet..she would be left sitting with a big bill.she would prob die of embarrassment been left with the bill because she would expected the guy to pay for it, so she might not have the money...

But she prob would not feel as embarrassed as the poor guy she would dump because he works in a factory or supermarket....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have to say she would pay her way you know but she expects the extras and after a lengthly argument last night she said said she like drive and ambition

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

She needs a kick up in the hole in today's day and age too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to say she would pay her way you know but she expects the extras and after a lengthly argument last night she said said she like drive and ambition "

but just obviously not in herself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd tell her to get on her bike! What I earn - whether it's a little or a lot - doesn't change the person I am. If anybody wanted my friendship just because I have a few material possessions I wouldn't give them the time of day

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

exactly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To be fair she's a smart woman a business woman but i really dont think she's a hold digger what i said to her was snobbery and status .she argues its not but then as she points out im only 27 and dont hav kids and when older you think differently

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"To be fair she's a smart woman a business woman but i really dont think she's a hold digger what i said to her was snobbery and status .she argues its not but then as she points out im only 27 and dont hav kids and when older you think differently"

I could understand it better if it is that she wants to meet someone her equal be it financially. ..intelligence. .drive etc. .. But she could well be losing out by what seems a very a hard hearted and calculating view point. ... Really it is up to her I suppose but it doesn't suggest a very nice side of get character. .. Then again most people successful in business have to have that bit of cut throat mentality. . So maybe that's why. I just wouldn't find it an attractive trait personally in anyone

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi S.S i get it i do i am self employed .but for me i wouldn't care if he swept rds but shes older than me and thnks a low wage is hardship for the future he has to have a career and prospects .so i dont think its a gold digger i just think status but that's my opinion which ive told her.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"Hi S.S i get it i do i am self employed .but for me i wouldn't care if he swept rds but shes older than me and thnks a low wagsoone is hardship for the future he has to have a career and prospects .so i dont think its a gold digger i just think status but that's my opinion which ive told her. "

hi hun.... Think you're nicer than your friend ...status doesn't make you happy. .. But I know you have more sense. Have to catch up

soon

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ill give her due she is lovely it is just a difference of opinion is all each to their own .she would claim its not about status its about ambition and drive which of course go hand in hand with money.but there are other factors she doesn't just base her decision that factor but others come into play. Defo have to catch up with ya missus

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim

"for years i struggled to bring up up a family on my own . i work full time paid my mortgage paid my bills and brought up my kids

all of this on just my income times where sometimes tough . my kids are now grown up and moved out .

i now have a nice house good job no bills as such and holidays when i feel the need all paid for by myself

and i take great pride in i dont depend on someone to take care of me

so when i read this it made my blood boil

tell your friend if she wants a 1000 a week try and find a job that will pay that

and if she finds one will she let me know if there looking for any more staff

and me lol.... You should be proud of yourself my friend. .. What a great achievement and a lovely girl with it

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If that is how she feels then she is right . No point in her settling for less if it won't make her happy. Am sure many women think that way but maybe afraid to admit it. Money may not buy happiness but it sure helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"for years i struggled to bring up up a family on my own . i work full time paid my mortgage paid my bills and brought up my kids

all of this on just my income times where sometimes tough . my kids are now grown up and moved out .

i now have a nice house good job no bills as such and holidays when i feel the need all paid for by myself

and i take great pride in i dont depend on someone to take care of me

so when i read this it made my blood boil

tell your friend if she wants a 1000 a week try and find a job that will pay that

and if she finds one will she let me know if there looking for any more staff

and me lol.... You should be proud of yourself my friend. .. What a great achievement and a lovely girl with it

Totally agree"

Aww guys I was feeling a little fed up today but ye have put a smile back on my face

ye know I'm mad for ye as well xxx

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim

I'm older and (I hope!) wiser than when I was your age, and have to strongly disagree with your friend. I think that using the size of someone's pay cheque (or the size of their house, the car they drive etc) as a measure of success, drive or ambition is, at best, flawed.

Having money and financial stability is great if you can get it, but to me, real success in life is measured not by what you have, but by how you use what you have.

As an example, sometimes people have very little financially, but (as in a previous post) they give all of their energy and love to give their children the best possible start in life. That, to me, is REAL success, and in my experience that type of success brings much more contentment in life than all the money in the world

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

I at 25 had two very small children and worked for a very good company. I was the bread winner with my wage compared to my partner. And he hated it cause I was the one that worked less hours but my earnings was more.

I had to choice between my job and my children when my division moved

I had options and decided my family and children come first.

life changes sometimes situations do as well.

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