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"Have to say you hit a sensitive topic there guys !!! Neatly 20 years coming across the same hurdles time n again. " Why sensitive, a lot of bi men are just sexually bi and not wanting nor capable of having a relationship with a male. I as the female here have absolutely no problem with this as I feel people should be allowed to be loved and accepted for themselves thus I knowingly chose to marry a bi male. I personally find bi males more relaxed and better company | |||
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"It's really not up to us to tell people how they label themselves or force our labels on them. Why are people not honest? Who knows? Is it actually our business? Some people lie about their height, size, marital status etc on their profiles. Sometimes saying things out loud or in a profile is a huge step for someone. If a straight-in-their-profile person contacts someone and tell them right away they're bi, they are being honest with the people they chose to be honest with. I think that's their choice and right. Be flattered if they feel comfortable telling you. It probably wasn't easy for them. Walk in someone else's shoes first before you judge them for being dishonest. There's a reason why so many people are in the closet. It's judgemental people. " How am I being judgemental, my question is why do they feel the need to put straight on their profiles, I am not judging anyone by asking this . If men mail us and say they are bi when they have straight on their profiles how are we to know this is true, we don't waste people's time nor do we wish our time to be wasted. I do not accept that on an anonymous swingers site people should feel the need not to be truely themselves and meet people who will accept them wholeheartedly as they are. We do not judge we are asking if their is an under lying issue here on fab that make people choose straight when they are bi. It appears to be perfectly acceptable for women to put bi up but the men who have mailed us all say that they get no meets here if they put up bi. Now how on gods earth are we being judgemental? | |||
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"It's really not up to us to tell people how they label themselves or force our labels on them. Why are people not honest? Who knows? Is it actually our business? Some people lie about their height, size, marital status etc on their profiles. Sometimes saying things out loud or in a profile is a huge step for someone. If a straight-in-their-profile person contacts someone and tell them right away they're bi, they are being honest with the people they chose to be honest with. I think that's their choice and right. Be flattered if they feel comfortable telling you. It probably wasn't easy for them. Walk in someone else's shoes first before you judge them for being dishonest. There's a reason why so many people are in the closet. It's judgemental people. How am I being judgemental, my question is why do they feel the need to put straight on their profiles, I am not judging anyone by asking this . If men mail us and say they are bi when they have straight on their profiles how are we to know this is true, we don't waste people's time nor do we wish our time to be wasted. I do not accept that on an anonymous swingers site people should feel the need not to be truely themselves and meet people who will accept them wholeheartedly as they are. We do not judge we are asking if their is an under lying issue here on fab that make people choose straight when they are bi. It appears to be perfectly acceptable for women to put bi up but the men who have mailed us all say that they get no meets here if they put up bi. Now how on gods earth are we being judgemental?" She wasnt calling you judgemental...just people in general. | |||
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"It's really not up to us to tell people how they label themselves or force our labels on them. Why are people not honest? Who knows? Is it actually our business? Some people lie about their height, size, marital status etc on their profiles. Sometimes saying things out loud or in a profile is a huge step for someone. If a straight-in-their-profile person contacts someone and tell them right away they're bi, they are being honest with the people they chose to be honest with. I think that's their choice and right. Be flattered if they feel comfortable telling you. It probably wasn't easy for them. Walk in someone else's shoes first before you judge them for being dishonest. There's a reason why so many people are in the closet. It's judgemental people. How am I being judgemental, my question is why do they feel the need to put straight on their profiles, I am not judging anyone by asking this . If men mail us and say they are bi when they have straight on their profiles how are we to know this is true, we don't waste people's time nor do we wish our time to be wasted. I do not accept that on an anonymous swingers site people should feel the need not to be truely themselves and meet people who will accept them wholeheartedly as they are. We do not judge we are asking if their is an under lying issue here on fab that make people choose straight when they are bi. It appears to be perfectly acceptable for women to put bi up but the men who have mailed us all say that they get no meets here if they put up bi. Now how on gods earth are we being judgemental? She wasnt calling you judgemental...just people in general. " I too believe that a lot here on fab are judgemental but again that's their prerogative , I just think it's a shame that genuine bi men have to put straight on their profiles when that is not true and this in turn causes people like is to turn them down as we do not know if they are genuinely bi or not. I wonder is it that the term bi is misunderstood, not every bi male wants a full blown relationship with a guy. As I said before a lot of bi men only enjoy the physical side and would not want anything more than that. | |||
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"Hi all, we are new to fab but have been on other sites and played mainly in gran canaria. We love bi men and are only interested in meeting bi men, however we are consistently being mailed by men who are straight in their profiles but claim to be bi when mailing is. Some say that they get no meets if they put bi on their profiles. For us honesty is paramount on a profile and we cannot understand in this day and age why people feel the need to lie on their profiles, after all this is a swinging site and we all are here to fulfil different needs. Why are bi men unacceptable to some for them to feel the need to put straight on a profile when that is not true?" weve been saying this to every straight guy and tbh it gets so frustrating saying the same thing every time . ur profile says ur straight to which they say but i am bi lol.. mr crazy | |||
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"Have had bi expierences from here within a group situation as if I'm honest I wouldn't have the nerve to meet a guy 1 on 1 it offends some maybe i should should just keep it to myself" Why should you have to keep your feelings on this and your experiences to yourself. No one should judge anyone regardless and who are we to say what's right and wrong as long as no one is physically or emotionally damaged. Is it not important that on sites like this where we all claim to be free spirited swingers that we should all have the right to be true to ourselves without nasty comments or ridicule | |||
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"Well I decided to come clean so to speak - and yes one or two women have turned me down because of it but I prefer to be honest and see where it leads - I am on here to explore my sexual desires after all!! But it is amazing how many "straight" guys have contacted me - even guys who are on here in a couple but the other half doesn't know about their bi interests. Seems a shame not to be going behind someone's back even though they are open enough with each other to be on a swing site!!" Have to agree and so true , why would you want to play with anyone if you can't truely let yourself go and be respected for that. Wouldn't it be better to be with true like minded people rather than having meets for the sake of it? | |||
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"Don't see how a guy putting himself down as bisexual would turn someone off when most of the female population in swinging claim to be bisexual themselves! Very judgemental and hypocritical but that seems to be the norm! " Agree wholeheartedly with this, are people open minded here or are they people who want to be but just can't. I've watched all the forums and for a swingers site there certainly is a lot of biased | |||
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"Don't see how a guy putting himself down as bisexual would turn someone off when most of the female population in swinging claim to be bisexual themselves! Very judgemental and hypocritical but that seems to be the norm! " u also have the bi females who arent really bi at all doing the opposite , but that seems to ok here , nothing gets said to them but its defo more accectable for women to lie here than men , we are honest here an only look for bi or bi curious guys to play when we look for single guys but so many lie on there profile , that itsself turns us off meeting them straight away , we prefer honesty from the start . mrs crazy | |||
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"First I'm very surprised at the small amount of guys commenting on this issue. I'm straight, I feel straight because men really don't do it for me! Don't make me go the same crazy horny when I see a nice pair of boobs or a curvy water with a sweet round ass and a spread pussy waiting.... Saying that I have some brief bi encounter in group situation where dude goes grabs my cock or even sucking it, I got two choices I freak the fuck out or go with the flow.... Guess what I do? Not hard is it? So here is the thing I'm straight but if I ever meet a guy that would make feel same way as a woman well then I wouldn't limit my self to put a labelled on my sexuality. But I would go out of my way to seek a man! Thoses all that ranting make sense? It's the same as bi curious wtf? If you curious try it, but the thing is something there are.good and bad.encounters regardless whether is with a man or a woman or a cpl that's just reality of things. I don't think they go hiding the fact I just think that they might like to try it and push their comfort level further! (logical explanation). " I'm finding it difficult to see where you are coming from here and how it relates to my original question. We are actively seeking a bi male that is , a male who has had full on bi experiences with other men and enjoyed it. We are not looking for a bi curious male as we are not curious ourselves , we know what we are and what we are looking for. So again the original question was, why do genuine experienced bi men feel they have to put straight on their profiles. I don't think asking for a bi male who is comfortable enough and sure enough of himself to put it on his profile is in any way labelling. For example I go into tescos and am looking for Kellogg's cornflakes , there are loads of different cornflakes , how on gods earth do I get what I want unless it's labelled as such. | |||
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"I am a bi man and that couples or single woman will state they are not interested in meeting bi men is there prerogative. I think they have likely got reasonable and to a point understandable reasons for their preference. However the part of swinging I really enjoy besides the sex is that you can be honest and open with swinging friends and playmates and not have to pretend to be anything your not. If it means reducing the number of potential meets so be it. " Well said and admirable touché | |||
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"I am a bi man and that couples or single woman will state they are not interested in meeting bi men is there prerogative. I think they have likely got reasonable and to a point understandable reasons for their preference. However the part of swinging I really enjoy besides the sex is that you can be honest and open with swinging friends and playmates and not have to pretend to be anything your not. If it means reducing the number of potential meets so be it. Well said and admirable touché " That's it in a nutshell! Well said | |||
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"Hi all, we are new to fab but have been on other sites and played mainly in gran canaria. We love bi men and are only interested in meeting bi men, however we are consistently being mailed by men who are straight in their profiles but claim to be bi when mailing is. Some say that they get no meets if they put bi on their profiles. For us honesty is paramount on a profile and we cannot understand in this day and age why people feel the need to lie on their profiles, after all this is a swinging site and we all are here to fulfil different needs. Why are bi men unacceptable to some for them to feel the need to put straight on a profile when that is not true?" People lie here all the time... Very interesting pic by the way... | |||
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"I think when it's comes to people real people not a brand of corn flakes in a supermarket it's a little more complicated than that everyone has a reason behind their actions my reasons are not same as yours or next Joe coming! So speak to them fond out what they like or not if they tell you they are bi well maybe they are! But they full they would labelled themselves simple! " Look it was an example and the first one that came to mind, yes maybe they are and maybe they are not but how are we to know? We are straight up on our profile about what we are looking for and as I said before we could take a chance and meet someone who said they were bi but had straight on their profile. However we are proud of Ben being bi and we would like to meet another male who doesn't feel the need to hide his sexuality. The reasons men have given to is for this appears to be mainly that being a bi male is not popular here on fab and that they tend to get less meets if they are honest. Personally I'd prefer less meets rather than being with people for the sake of it and not being able to experience full sexuality regardless of what that might mean to a particular individual | |||
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"I think when it's comes to people real people not a brand of corn flakes in a supermarket it's a little more complicated than that everyone has a reason behind their actions my reasons are not same as yours or next Joe coming! So speak to them fond out what they like or not if they tell you they are bi well maybe they are! But they full they would labelled themselves simple! Look it was an example and the first one that came to mind, yes maybe they are and maybe they are not but how are we to know? We are straight up on our profile about what we are looking for and as I said before we could take a chance and meet someone who said they were bi but had straight on their profile. However we are proud of Ben being bi and we would like to meet another male who doesn't feel the need to hide his sexuality. The reasons men have given to is for this appears to be mainly that being a bi male is not popular here on fab and that they tend to get less meets if they are honest. Personally I'd prefer less meets rather than being with people for the sake of it and not being able to experience full sexuality regardless of what that might mean to a particular individual" Agree 100% … again | |||
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"I guess but not been as confident with the bi side rejection or abuse can set you back remember it's a very tentative thing starting out from a straight to a bi expierence and the slightest thing could put you off. If everything doesn't run smoothly it could be a total disaster " Yes I agree with you there, all in your own time and a pace that is comfortable , it's just that we are looking for a bi male who had already jumped those hurdles | |||
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"I am a bi man and that couples or single woman will state they are not interested in meeting bi men is there prerogative. I think they have likely got reasonable and to a point understandable reasons for their preference. However the part of swinging I really enjoy besides the sex is that you can be honest and open with swinging friends and playmates and not have to pretend to be anything your not. If it means reducing the number of potential meets so be it. " Fantastic response, I so agree with you | |||
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"Personally I think they do it to maximise results, put "Bi" on your profile and you immediately rule out a lot of single fems and couples, put "straight" and you can message peeps privately who is looking for a bi guy" But irrationally a lot of people discriminate and won't meet someone who lies! | |||
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"Personally I think they do it to maximise results, put "Bi" on your profile and you immediately rule out a lot of single fems and couples, put "straight" and you can message peeps privately who is looking for a bi guy But irrationally a lot of people discriminate and won't meet someone who lies!" Why is it irrational not to want to meet someone who has not been honest on their profile? Surely we are all entitled to be respected with our meets, I don't consider it respectful to lie on your profile and then meet someone and land the truth on them at the meet. | |||
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"In addition to what I've said before it's actually quite a few single women who don't want to meet bi men. So if a bi man also wants to meet single women, this label could stop him from having hetero meets. A woman (on this site) once told me in private that she thinks men having sex with each other is dirty and bi men therefore quite likely have STDs. She also thought that they're not man enough. I'm not sure if she was alone in her opinion, but judging from previous threads about this, she's not. " I would suspect that what you have said here is more like the truth of the attitude out there about bi men. I find that kind of attitude and broad generalisation quite disturbing. Yes you do get bi men that take chances with their sexual health but again it is not all, you also get straight guys who do the same and women and couples. That is why I feel that if a bi male is honest at least he is aware and open with his status and more often than not taking care of his sexual health. In the case of married couples where the husband is bi playing only occurs with the female is there and thus sexual health on our part is well monitored. | |||
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"Personally I think they do it to maximise results, put "Bi" on your profile and you immediately rule out a lot of single fems and couples, put "straight" and you can message peeps privately who is looking for a bi guy But irrationally a lot of people discriminate and won't meet someone who lies! Why is it irrational not to want to meet someone who has not been honest on their profile? Surely we are all entitled to be respected with our meets, I don't consider it respectful to lie on your profile and then meet someone and land the truth on them at the meet." I was trying to be sarcastic! | |||
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"There are often threads on a similar vein. The often voiced view is because they are fucking a TV and don't fancy guys then they are straight. My view is very different but it's just my opinion" I have seen those threads too , it could be a case that the male is not at a stage of acceptance of his status due to the scaremongering here and the ill informed who aren't aware of what it actually means to be bi. It's like everything , gossip and scaremongering force people to shy away from their status and force some to even delude themselves. Sad that this is the case in 2014 when gay rights are being faught so hard and are being put to the vote. Small mindedness does not help either | |||
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"In addition to what I've said before it's actually quite a few single women who don't want to meet bi men. So if a bi man also wants to meet single women, this label could stop him from having hetero meets. A woman (on this site) once told me in private that she thinks men having sex with each other is dirty and bi men therefore quite likely have STDs. She also thought that they're not man enough. I'm not sure if she was alone in her opinion, but judging from previous threads about this, she's not. I would suspect that what you have said here is more like the truth of the attitude out there about bi men. I find that kind of attitude and broad generalisation quite disturbing. Yes you do get bi men that take chances with their sexual health but again it is not all, you also get straight guys who do the same and women and couples. That is why I feel that if a bi male is honest at least he is aware and open with his status and more often than not taking care of his sexual health. In the case of married couples where the husband is bi playing only occurs with the female is there and thus sexual health on our part is well monitored. " agree here mr crazy is only bi playful in a meet as he enjoys it and not having to worry where hands are etc is a great feeling for us both but outside that he isnt attracted to guys and would never meet a guy alone mrs crazy | |||
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"True but things can change with the right company " Yes it can but the original post was why genuine experienced bi males are unable to be honest on their profiles. This post isn't about bi curious | |||
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