FabSwingers.com forum: An Irish Mod for the Irish

By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

Its tough job, and someone's got to do it!

So respect to the volunteers (yes VOLUNTEERS!!!!) that put themselves up for the role.

Since loosing Links it has become noticeable that several highly respected members of the Irish swing scene have sadly received bans from Fab!

In discussion with many other of my compatriots I have come to the conclusion, meaning no disrespect to the mods, there is a real lack of comprehension of Irish craic among the the mods not from Ireland.

Are choices are either accept the rest of the world are not Irish and dont get our cranky humour and accept the status quo,

or someone from Ireland should step up to the plate and take on the role of mod

It would be easy to say why dont you do it, but seeing i am trying to organise Ireland's first swing camp weekend, advise and support 2 meet and greets, while organising 2 more meets in the North this year, i think i'm doing enough this year and could not give the time to do it

So please people of Ireland lets unite in our need for an Irish Mod

Jaz xxxxx

keep swinging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have so many opinions on this but am gonna keep shtum i think....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the Northern Irish humour is different from Southern humour too.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"I think the Northern Irish humour is different from Southern humour too.

East coast humour is different to west coast humour and undoubtedly urban humour is different to rural humour!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By jaysis i be banning everyone ha ha ha.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

I do think it might be a good idea as it does seem that maybe our sense of humour is not always understood. I think on the whole the mods do a good job and I appreciate that they are volunteers and that it must be time consuming. I also agree that abuse shouldn't be tolerated. .. But I think maybe the mods struggle to understand when we are being humorous in a funny or sarcastic way. . And that often it is meant and indeed received as being just that.....a joke.

So I do wonder is it that our sense of humour comes across wrong occasionally or is it easily misinterpreted? And maybe having an irish mod would help the situation... What do others think?

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"i have so many opinions on this but am gonna keep shtum i think....

please express your opinions in a reasonable and respectable manner, otherwise this forum topic is devalued

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"I think the Northern Irish humour is different from Southern humour too.

There probably is small difference but there is a common thread that can also relate to the scouse humour.

But i dont think the gap is so wide compared to the gap between us and the rest of the world

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"I do think it might be a good idea as it does seem that maybe our sense of humour is not always understood. I think on the whole the mods do a good job and I appreciate that they are volunteers and that it must be time consuming. I also agree that abuse shouldn't be tolerated. .. But I think maybe the mods struggle to understand when we are being humorous in a funny or sarcastic way. . And that often it is meant and indeed received as being just that.....a joke.

So I do wonder is it that our sense of humour comes across wrong occasionally or is it easily misinterpreted? And maybe having an irish mod would help the situation... What do others think?

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By *ustDarMan
over a year ago

Tullamore

a couple of people have said about the differences between northern humor and southern , eastern and western , urban and " culchie " and while that may be true ( personally i don't see the comedy in the rubber bandits

) it is highly likely that an Irish mod , who chats in the Ireland room , will have more experience separating the humorous comments from the offensive ones.

the hard working mods from the UK rooms at best spend 10 to 15 minutes with us when they have had their bat signal activated.

that's hardly enough for them to pick up on our ways . no more than we might be highly insulted by jokes in the uk rooms that are obviously jokes to the locals .

the point of this long post is to add my vote to the topic of an irish Mod. it would be better for everyone if we could have a volunteer picked out for this role. the UK Mods wouldn't have to fly in on their trusty mod capes every time we got a rash of directors or idiots. the Ireland room chatters would feel less nervous carrying on the banter when there was a mod around ... and the admin wouldn't have to worry about processing bans that the users are complaining were unfair or misunderstandings

thats about 4.95 worth of my 2 cents. yous can keep the change out of the fiver

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Is there actually a problem though? It appears to me that opinions are divided within the Irish forum as to whether certain people deserved bans at different times or not. I suspect that there would still be contentious bans with a local mod. I don't think we need one tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ireland should definitely be represented on the moderating team. Rule breaking in chat is a regular occurrence and "regulars" in the room have largely taken to self-policing. On the occasion when a mod DOES arrive in the room the members are so used to being able to flaunt the rules that bannings happen very frequently.

On the subject of foreign mods not understanding the Irish humor, I must say I have a little sympathy for the mods. Rules need to be applied evenly and fairly across all regions. It would be wrong for the Irish room to be permitted activity that wouldn't be allowed elsewhere.

I would like to suggest a warning system so that a site member can be given a warning from a mod before a banning is handed out. I would imagine in most circumstance this would be enough to fix any problem, and a ban can he handed out if a member re-offends.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

If this thread is going to stay open for a discussion can people keep away from talking about their own bans, or anyone else that has been banned. Thanks.

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"Is there actually a problem though? It appears to me that opinions are divided within the Irish forum as to whether certain people deserved bans at different times or not. I suspect that there would still be contentious bans with a local mod. I don't think we need one tbh. "

Yes there is a problem,

pointed out by Dars' excellent post worth at least 10 cents lol

Dar is talking about issues in the Irish chat room, Michael you are talking about issues in the Irish forum. Neither are aware the issues exist outside your preferred area of fab to enjoy.

I dont expect an Irish mod to be perfect, but having a better understanding of the culture should improve decisions. There is no expectation of perfection!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?"

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes there is a problem,

pointed out by Dars' excellent post worth at least 10 cents lol

Dar is talking about issues in the Irish chat room, Michael you are talking about issues in the Irish forum. Neither are aware the issues exist outside your preferred area of fab to enjoy.

I dont expect an Irish mod to be perfect, but having a better understanding of the culture should improve decisions. There is no expectation of perfection!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a range of senses of humour in my street nevermind the whole of Ireland lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum."

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum."

Thanks for the info

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is not getting the sense of humour the problem though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i have so many opinions on this but am gonna keep shtum i think....

please express your opinions in a reasonable and respectable manner, otherwise this forum topic is devalued"

i wont actually because perhaps its me but my opinions tend to offend more than help.i do however think that the irsh have more bans than anywhere else.thats my input...over and out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK, I'll say it as no one else has the gonads, the chatroom is to clicky, an outside mod is needed. Some people in the chatroom are way too hot head and rude but part of click. SAD. outside mod is needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will we need a regional moderator as well when someone else gets banned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK, I'll say it as no one else has the gonads, the chatroom is to clicky, an outside mod is needed. Some people in the chatroom are way too hot head and rude but part of click. SAD. outside mod is needed."

That's not everyone's opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not everyones opinion, I never said it was BUT many have said it is, mainly females actually.

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

around

What may be classed as humour to one person may not to another be they Irish or not. Many a time I don't get the 'humour' in posts from the Irish. I think if something is written, that well may be done in jest, but someone takes offence then it is not humour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're dead right mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cliques exist everywhere though, people group together based on common interests and getting each others sense of humour etc, I've seen many of them come and go over the years on here. There are probably a few in the chat room and one or maybe two on the forum, as long as people are polite there's no real problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a set of rules already in place. Most people can work within these parameters. All you are asked to be is respectful & not talk about certain subjects, why do we need special treatment, just be respectful & don't talk about certain subjects. It's not rocket science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see what your saying Boris, I agree but without an outside mod, it could become a problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to agree with jaz.....our sense of humour is very different!!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod? "

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

The Scots, Welsh, American etc can all say they have their own sense of humour and therefore they should all have their own mods but the rules are the same for everyone. And as I also said in another post being abusive, for example, and then calling it 'our sense of humour 'is still abuse.

The rules are set by Admin and unless they change the rules for the Ireland forums/chat rooms then Im afraid the same rules will apply as the rest of the site. Might not be what you all want to hear but thats the way it is Im afraid.

Sorry that took me ages to type out

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"If this thread is going to stay open for a discussion can people keep away from talking about their own bans, or anyone else that has been banned. Thanks."

Thanks Jezebel,

You have a better understanding of what I am trying to achieve with this

It is appreciated

people please comply with Jezebel's request. This is an important topic that should remain general conversation rather than focus on specific historical bans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's total bullshit that if you annoy one person as part of the clique then the other members gang up on that one person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people please comply with Jezebel's request. This is an important topic that should remain general conversation rather than focus on specific historical bans

TOTALLY AGREE

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

Sorry that took me ages to type out

And I should add, thats my PERSONAL opinion, as i was asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ganging up is a problem, and so rude, its usually caused by a misunderstanding or attention seeking by members of the click.

But thats why outside mod is necessary.

Feck I'll be popular, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's total bullshit that if you annoy one person as part of the clique then the other members gang up on that one person"

Or you could stop being annoying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If this thread is going to stay open for a discussion can people keep away from talking about their own bans, or anyone else that has been banned. Thanks.

Thanks Jezebel,

You have a better understanding of what I am trying to achieve with this

It is appreciated

people please comply with Jezebel's request. This is an important topic that should remain general conversation rather than focus on specific historical bans"

correct me if im wrong but is the whole reason for the conversation on irish mods not BECAUSE of the recent bans and the fact that our humour differs???? if not then what is the piont in this thread???

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

thanks for this post, this was discussed last night at meet.

I can understand why some people say its cliquey, but on the other side some people in the chat room have meet up and become friends, plus they actively join in the chat, not decrying those that choose to observe the conversation. It is no surprise they get on and appear as if a clique, but i'm sure if you respectfully said hi they would not chat with you.

You make a very valid point on the outside mod, but that does not mean they cant come from Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's total bullshit that if you annoy one person as part of the clique then the other members gang up on that one person

Or you could stop being annoying?"

I ain't annoying love "it's my sense of humor"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*point

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By *ingerrrrWoman
over a year ago

Meath

I'd love to come back as a mod. I really enjoyed my time and would be willing to give my time again to make the site better for all!

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"Will we need a regional moderator as well when someone else gets banned? "

lol the supreme court of swing moderation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If this thread is going to stay open for a discussion can people keep away from talking about their own bans, or anyone else that has been banned. Thanks.

Thanks Jezebel,

You have a better understanding of what I am trying to achieve with this

It is appreciated

people please comply with Jezebel's request. This is an important topic that should remain general conversation rather than focus on specific historical bans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a difference between a sense of humour and just being downright rude. Too many people get away with being insulting by saying 'oh you just don't get my sense of humour' , maybe it's the sense of humour that sucks , not other peoples attitudes towards it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's total bullshit that if you annoy one person as part of the clique then the other members gang up on that one person

Or you could stop being annoying?

I ain't annoying love "it's my sense of humor""

Your words friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Candy store, thanks for proving my point,rudeness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a difference between a sense of humour and just being downright rude. Too many people get away with being insulting by saying 'oh you just don't get my sense of humour' , maybe it's the sense of humour that sucks , not other peoples attitudes towards it!"

Its the other member of my clique

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's total bullshit that if you annoy one person as part of the clique then the other members gang up on that one person

Or you could stop being annoying?

I ain't annoying love "it's my sense of humor"

Your words friend."

Sure is buddy old pal

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

think you will find your opinion is often echoed on threads. . And everyone is entitled to their opinion.

However. . It's an open forum to be used by people in a manner they choose(without being offensive or abusive). It always loses me why people who have got to know each other, who chat and have a bit of fun is seen as being so annoying to people and has to mean they are a clique! ! I talk to loads of people in the forums.. Maybe people should just be a little more tolerant.. Go start a different thread for the clique haters...or talk to some of the people they are so quick to criticise?

A mods job is not to decide if people participating in a group discussion constitutes a clique. . They are there to ensure it is done in a non offensive manner..

in my personal opinion it's a tired sad view that really doesn't require any gonads whatsoever to form or express

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the other member of my clique

Soz bbz , I'm a one woman clique

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to come back as a mod. I really enjoyed my time and would be willing to give my time again to make the site better for all!"

I second links' nomination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the other member of my clique

Soz bbz , I'm a one woman clique

Denied!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not generally ganging up. Its multiple people being annoyed by the same person at the same time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its not generally ganging up. Its multiple people being annoyed by the same person at the same time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

now downright rudeness should not be allowed under any circumstances....that is not humour you are correct.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

Sorry that took me ages to type out

And I should add, thats my PERSONAL opinion, as i was asked

Thanks for your opinion (as I asked you). If there is an Irish Mod already, are we not allowed to know? Surely with the * at their name it would indicate that they are moderating. I've not seen any Irish forumites or chatroom regulars with a *

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its not generally ganging up. Its multiple people being annoyed by the same person at the same time

True dat.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Will we need a regional moderator as well when someone else gets banned? "

I was kinda wondering that too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

take for example on a thread earlier on discussing bans, I and several others were told to 'get a fucking life' because they thought we were referring to someone they are friends with who received a ban recently. What kind of attitude is that??

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"If this thread is going to stay open for a discussion can people keep away from talking about their own bans, or anyone else that has been banned. Thanks.

Thanks Jezebel,

You have a better understanding of what I am trying to achieve with this

It is appreciated

people please comply with Jezebel's request. This is an important topic that should remain general conversation rather than focus on specific historical bans

you are correct it is to discuss the need for an irish mode, but it does not mean we have to refer to specifics while having a discussion along strategic lines for the need of a mod

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"I'd love to come back as a mod. I really enjoyed my time and would be willing to give my time again to make the site better for all!

I second links' nomination

And Me. ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"take for example on a thread earlier on discussing bans, I and several others were told to 'get a fucking life' because they thought we were referring to someone they are friends with who received a ban recently. What kind of attitude is that??

No wonder people worry about posting on here."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here."

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it "

doesn't mean it had to be said in such a rude way though. ..!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it "

Can I ask why you were sick of said 'user'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it "

You need to read what I wrote again , and anyway so what? It does not warrant that level of aggression.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say something but I'd be afraid of a ban

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone had to say it "

You seem to be under the misapprehension that people dont like to express their opinion on here. I think this thread proves the opposite to be true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it "

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say something but I'd be afraid of a ban"

Why? Can you not articulate your feelings in a polite and respectful manner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a better suggestion...get a life

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"I would say something but I'd be afraid of a ban"

you have an opinion. . Why can you not express it in a way that wouldn't get you a ban? ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What happens if a non-Irish national living in Ireland feels she/he is being ridiculed/abused by local 'banter'? Will he be told "you're not Irish, you have no complaint"

Get a grip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????"

Was is that really annoying guy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a better suggestion...get a life"

Is that to everyone who uses forum??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

Was is that really annoying guy?

now now....if you dont want a spanking then dont hijack the thread....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????"

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

Having being in chat for over a year on a regular basis I say that the precieved cliques are people that get on together and chat on a regular basis its not hard to join in by just being respectful and having a laugh. On a resent visit to chat I to got the feeling that OMG it TRUE after an hr chatting I felt right at home.

Yes we need an Irish mod assuming when a ban is contested the said mod may be able to enlighten the admin group that some things are a trait of our humour

What used to drive me mad in chat was we used have to go looking for a mod when a really obnoxious individual entered the chat

As for the fourms there is rules and we all have to live by the same rules I agree but there has to be an understanding of the wit which to some that don't see it there is a difference call someone a haour in this country and its a term of endearment in another its derogatory, ask for a fag here U get a ciggie in America U get ur ass opened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

Was is that really annoying guy?

now now....if you dont want a spanking then dont hijack the thread....

Andreagassi69 i think he was called

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over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc "

just proves you havent a clue whom the thread was about.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Right, so we have a sense of humour that is distinctly different to the one displayed on the UK forum? Hmm, I'm really not sure about that at all. There are quite a few people here whose humour I don't get, and it's nothing to do with geography. Ffs, sure some of them didn't even think my joke about the tramp sucking up vomit with a straw was funny. Sure how could you moderate those feckers?

Anyway, the point is that we're all different to each other, and not because of geography, imo, and we're not that much different to the UK users. God forgive me for saying that about the sassenachs!

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

around

Im confused now. Are ye talking about chat room mods or forum mods?

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over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc

just proves you havent a clue whom the thread was about.

I actually do love clique clique clique

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over a year ago

"Right, so we have a sense of humour that is distinctly different to the one displayed on the UK forum? Hmm, I'm really not sure about that at all. There are quite a few people here whose humour I don't get, and it's nothing to do with geography. Ffs, sure some of them didn't even think my joke about the tramp sucking up vomit with a straw was funny. Sure how could you moderate those feckers?

Anyway, the point is that we're all different to each other, and not because of geography, imo, and we're not that much different to the UK users. God forgive me for saying that about the sassenachs! "

A tramp sucking vomit through a straw would always tickle my funny bone

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

Sorry that took me ages to type out

And I should add, thats my PERSONAL opinion, as i was asked

Thanks Jezebel,

your opinion is appreciated and piques my political senses (small p politics)

I have no desire in this thread to treat Ireland with different rules from any other region in the world on fab. Any mod from Ireland should have to apply the same rules My point is that misunderstanding of communication leads to disasters (my nerdy side refers to the Charge of the Light Brigade)or a miscarriage of justice.

But i must point out the philosophical danger of stating "if i have an opinion that someone finds abusive it must be abusive". This passive aggressive opportunity is in itself the very dictatorship it seeks to eradicate and destroys the human right of free speech.

The very essence of the balance of free speech and dictatorship is the reason for legislature in society. Which the mod in fab is the very essence of the legislature.

Therefore the point remains valid that a mod with a better understanding and comprehension of the culture and society would be a solid foundation for better decision making in relation to the rules

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Anyway, the point is that we're all different to each other, and not because of geography, imo, and we're not that much different to the UK users. God forgive me for saying that about the sassenachs!

A tramp sucking vomit through a straw would always tickle my funny bone

The moment is gone

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over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc

just proves you havent a clue whom the thread was about.

I actually do love clique clique clique "

pmsl.....no....ya dont..!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

Was is that really annoying guy?

now now....if you dont want a spanking then dont hijack the thread....

Andreagassi69 i think he was called"

Nah he was not as annoying as rogerfederer69

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc

just proves you havent a clue whom the thread was about.

I actually do love clique clique clique

pmsl.....no....ya dont..!!!"

Ooh are the claws coming out haha poop

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"Having being in chat for over a year on a regular basis I say that the precieved cliques are people that get on together and chat on a regular basis its not hard to join in by just being respectful and having a laugh. On a resent visit to chat I to got the feeling that OMG it TRUE after an hr chatting I felt right at home.

Yes we need an Irish mod assuming when a ban is contested the said mod may be able to enlighten the admin group that some things are a trait of our humour

What used to drive me mad in chat was we used have to go looking for a mod when a really obnoxious individual entered the chat

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over a year ago

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

Was is that really annoying guy?

now now....if you dont want a spanking then dont hijack the thread....

Andreagassi69 i think he was called

Nah he was not as annoying as rogerfederer69"

I hate that prick

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over a year ago

Its not generally ganging up. Its multiple people being annoyed by the same person at the same time

Unfortunately I have experienced ganging up after a simple MIS-communication, I wouldn't dream of being rude.Its hard to explain when 7 or 8 people are suddenly extremely nasty to you.

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over a year ago

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

Sorry that took me ages to type out

And I should add, thats my PERSONAL opinion, as i was asked

Thanks Jezebel,

your opinion is appreciated and piques my political senses (small p politics)

The very essence of the balance of free speech and dictatorship is the reason for legislature in society. Which the mod in fab is the very essence of the legislature.

Therefore the point remains valid that a mod with a better understanding and comprehension of the culture and society would be a solid foundation for better decision making in relation to the rules "

But what about the non-Irish people living in your society? Are their views not to be respected as well?

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

No wonder people worry about posting on here.

Think it's because people who use the forums are sick of hearing about that user. Someone had to say it

ya see....said user was only spoke about THAT ONE time....so ur point is?????

One time? Haha don't make me laugh he did it a few times. Three days off here and six days there etc

just proves you havent a clue whom the thread was about.

I actually do love clique clique clique

pmsl.....no....ya dont..!!!

Ooh are the claws coming out haha poop"

U see bud that's no addition

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

Don't think anyone is suggesting the rules should be applied to anyone. . Be they irish national ..English. . non irish national.. etc any more or less than anyone else tbh..

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over a year ago

"Its not generally ganging up. Its multiple people being annoyed by the same person at the same time

Unfortunately I have experienced ganging up after a simple MIS-communication, I wouldn't dream of being rude.Its hard to explain when 7 or 8 people are suddenly extremely nasty to you.

Lol if its miscommunication then its not ganging up is it?

Miscommunication would be where you say something in the room that can be interpreted incorrectly. This can cause several people to take offence and respond at the same time. Just because more than 1 person misinterpreted does not make it ganging up.

This situation can be prevented by explaining yourself clearly in the first place.

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By *azsins OP Man
over a year ago

Belfast

"Do the mods who moderate the forum also mod the chatrooms?

There are different types of mods.

Just happens that the forum mods are also chat mods, but the chat mods cant moderate in the forum.

Jezebel as a mod do you think there is room/need for an Irish mod?

As I said on one of the other threads - how do you know that there isnt an Irish mod? People are making assumptions...

But to answer your question, personally, no I dont. The Irish forum and chat rooms have the same rules as every other forum and chat room and something either breaks the rules or it doesnt....

Sorry that took me ages to type out

And I should add, thats my PERSONAL opinion, as i was asked

Thanks Jezebel,

your opinion is appreciated and piques my political senses (small p politics)

The very essence of the balance of free speech and dictatorship is the reason for legislature in society. Which the mod in fab is the very essence of the legislature.

Therefore the point remains valid that a mod with a better understanding and comprehension of the culture and society would be a solid foundation for better decision making in relation to the rules

But what about the non-Irish people living in your society? Are their views not to be respected as well?"

Yes candy. as i say the rules are the rules, it is the interpretation that is the issue, which is why you need mods.

There is no discrimination to any particular creed, colour or opinion.

However to to quote a christain ideal that is universally expected in any country you visit. " When in Rome".

Therefore the expectation of someone non Irish joining in the Irish forums and chat would be to learn and understand the nature of the society they have become part of and accept!

As stated this is no different to the expectations of other cultures when I visit their countries.

There would be a need to have a period of tolerance and understanding during a learning period, but the Irish are the best at being friendly to other cultures and i expect few issues with the other cultures

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over a year ago

overall theres no need for a mod cause it'll be one of the usual suspects and there will be alot of biased opinions flying around, plus the forum is a much better place without a toe or two

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over a year ago

Its hard to explain something when bombarded with abuse. And the statement was directed at ONE individual, surely you can see my point.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"overall theres no need for a mod cause it'll be one of the usual suspects and there will be alot of biased opinions flying around, plus the forum is a much better place without a toe or two "

Is that a biased opinion? ?

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over a year ago

I've been throwing around my "wisdom" and "advice" all day. If there are Irish members who want to volunteer as mods let them do it. I don't think it should be compulsory. If something is slightly offensive there's no saying how the recipient will take it. It could be considered "banter" or "just having the craic" by the person who says it but everyone would take it differently. There's a little "report" icon which comes with every post and anyone could easily use it if they think something is offensive. If a "clique" has 8 members and one says something which doesn't sit well with the recipient "for the craic", said recipient could report it and so can passers-by. If 20 people report it cause they "don't get the humour" surely they shouldn't be subject to "it's just our sense of humour." As it is in law, you should take your victim as they come. So if someone thinks you're being offensive, you probably are (if you punch someone who's probe to seizures and that punch leads to them having a bad one which leads to their death, then you get done for murder).

And the point of some people failing to express their views based on cliques is totally understandable. Not everyone has the guts to take a bashing if they offend one clique member and they shouldn't have to. Forums are for public discussions and if these said cliques want to exclude everyone else they can easily use group chat on kik or whatsapp (thanks to the improving mature of our technology).

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over a year ago

"overall theres no need for a mod cause it'll be one of the usual suspects and there will be alot of biased opinions flying around, plus the forum is a much better place without a toe or two

Is that a biased opinion? ?"

just stating a few wee facts while i was typing that

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"I've been throwing around my "wisdom" and "advice" all day. If there are Irish members who want to volunteer as mods let them do it. I don't think it should be compulsory. If something is slightly offensive there's no saying how the recipient will take it. It could be considered "banter" or "just having the craic" by the person who says it but everyone would take it differently. There's a little "report" icon which comes with every post and anyone could easily use it if they think something is offensive. If a "clique" has 8 members and one says something which doesn't sit well with the recipient "for the craic", said recipient could report it and so can passers-by. If 20 people report it cause they "don't get the humour" surely they shouldn't be subject to "it's just our sense of humour." As it is in law, you should take your victim as they come. So if someone thinks you're being offensive, you probably are (if you punch someone who's probe to seizures and that punch leads to them having a bad one which leads to their death, then you get done for murder).

Your punch analogy isn't quite correct. The context of the punch would be hugely relevant.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Yes candy. as i say the rules are the rules, it is the interpretation that is the issue, which is why you need mods.

There is no discrimination to any particular creed, colour or opinion.

However to to quote a christain ideal that is universally expected in any country you visit. " When in Rome".

Therefore the expectation of someone non Irish joining in the Irish forums and chat would be to learn and understand the nature of the society they have become part of and accept!

As stated this is no different to the expectations of other cultures when I visit their countries.

Very eloquent but I think thats over-thinking it a bit....99% of the time forum moderation is black and white.

Use the site to buy and sell - you get a ban...

Post links that arent allowed - you get a ban...

Air dirty laundry...you get a ban...

Dispute a specific moderator decision in the forums - you get a ban...etc

ie if you do what it tells you in the site rules not to do - you get a ban.

Call someone a twat/cunt/wanker/slag etc - you get a ban. If you think that thats acceptable in your 'culture' and that a mistake has been made then you contact Admin and they will review. If they agree that a mistake has been made then they lift the ban.

Now Im not sure whether or not the Site Owners are Irish or not, so you might run into problems there, but if one of you is willing to buy into the site then there might be some room for negotiation...

But if the issue is only about understanding 'cultural' differences why do Irish forumites report other Irish forumites for abuse? Surely there should be no cultural differences in that case?

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"overall theres no need for a mod cause it'll be one of the usual suspects and there will be alot of biased opinions flying around, plus the forum is a much better place without a toe or two

Is that a biased opinion? ?

just stating a few wee facts while i was typing that"

what you have stated isn't factual. .. It's your opinion...

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By *elfastDMan
over a year ago

belfast

Yes candy. as i say the rules are the rules, it is the interpretation that is the issue, which is why you need mods.

There is no discrimination to any particular creed, colour or opinion.

However to to quote a christain ideal that is universally expected in any country you visit. " When in Rome".

Therefore the expectation of someone non Irish joining in the Irish forums and chat would be to learn and understand the nature of the society they have become part of and accept!

As stated this is no different to the expectations of other cultures when I visit their countries.

Very eloquent but I think thats over-thinking it a bit....99% of the time forum moderation is black and white.

Use the site to buy and sell - you get a ban...

Post links that arent allowed - you get a ban...

Air dirty laundry...you get a ban...

Dispute a specific moderator decision in the forums - you get a ban...etc

ie if you do what it tells you in the site rules not to do - you get a ban.

But if the issue is only about understanding 'cultural' differences why do Irish forumites report other Irish forumites for abuse? Surely there should be no cultural differences in that case?"

It's talking to me again!!