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"what are you describing as 'inactive'? " Probably not verified and no verifications and on a few months  | |||
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"We do like to give unverified profiles a chance if they look like they are making an effort but when profiles are still unverified after 3, 4, 5 months or more then we are definitely not interested and to be honest we think the site should delete these inactive profiles. ....why are they here, what do they contribute?...what's your thoughts fabbers?...." Agreed  | |||
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"what are you describing as 'inactive'? " By "inactive" I mean not even a webcam or coffee meet, most of them not even a pic and usually the silhouette avatar! | |||
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"We do like to give unverified profiles a chance if they look like they are making an effort but when profiles are still unverified after 3, 4, 5 months or more then we are definitely not interested and to be honest we think the site should delete these inactive profiles. ....why are they here, what do they contribute?...what's your thoughts fabbers?...." so you want me to leave, | |||
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"what are you describing as 'inactive'? By "inactive" I mean not even a webcam or coffee meet, most of them not even a pic and usually the silhouette avatar!" For many people swinging is a huge step for couples/singles. Some like to test the water and take a while to feel comfortable before they take that first step. For some that could be 6 or even 9 months. No one should feel pressured into doing anything they feel uncomfortable with. Just because a profile is not verified doesn't mean they are time wasters (granted I know that there are many who are fakes). As it's been said before each to their own and if you don't like it move on (there's always the block button so you don't have to see their profile). | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! " Well I guess you see the world in black and white. For many there are lots of grey areas! For me it's multicoloured!!  | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! " Me too!! I hate the argument of they're not ready to take the plunge yet!! Then why are they here? | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! " They might be on here just to cam. They might be meeting in clubs and not people from here. They might be new to it and taking things slowly at their own pace. How often do you think people should meet before they get kicked off the site? | |||
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"Often people have kept verifications private...but if your not interested just move along... "I've been accused of being fake a few times recently because I'm not meeting and my veris are hidden.....ignore the photo verified and green tick....ya can't win at times  | |||
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"Ive been here a while and its none to easy to get verified.ive pics and a pretty honest description. Ive never wasted anyones time either and actually been blocked by a lady the day after she asked me to meet and i agreed lol so its not just the newbes that are time wasters. "totaly agree with you man. | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! " I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining "Do you think people who look for the green tick are superficial? Just curious | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm no t the one complaining "agreed, you use the site as you wish. | |||
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"We do like to give unverified profiles a chance if they look like they are making an effort but when profiles are still unverified after 3, 4, 5 months or more then we are definitely not interested and to be honest we think the site should delete these inactive profiles. ....why are they here, what do they contribute?...what's your thoughts fabbers?...." I'm not sure what it's got to do with anyone else what someones profile is or not......simply move on to another !!!  | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining
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Just curious "No I think people who decide a person is not for them purely because they don't have one are. | |||
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" Do you think people who look for the green tick are superficial? Just curious
No I think people who decide a person is not for them purely because they don't have one are. "Well said Duffer. | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining
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"My page was active a year before I decided to do anything on here and nobody ever questioned me on it if your not interested or hav doubts on them move to the next person " | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining
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Just curious
No I think people who decide a person is not for them purely because they don't have one are.
Agreed! I usually look for a bit more than a green tick before I'd plan to meet someone "But what if they don't have a green tick? Too many people see no green tick and just move on. Their loss I say, but as said it's up to everyone to decide what's the best way for them. I haven't had a bad meet yet I should add | |||
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why!" | |||
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why!" If referring to me about being defensive, did I not say I wasn't arguing and just explaining my reason so you could understand? I just took offense to you saying we should swing or go because we are not verified. I could get a verification for you within 5 mins but what's that going to change? I'm still the same person | |||
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"Profiles that are not verified by meet...cam...pic...wouldnt be bothered with it....moving swiftly on!! "The above is on a MEET basis....more than happy to chat and get to know people on the forum...and build up trust...but lets be honest if your looking for a meet it saves all the bullshit when a profile is verified....we have been stung by way to many fakes on here.... | |||
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"what are you describing as 'inactive'? By "inactive" I mean not even a webcam or coffee meet, most of them not even a pic and usually the silhouette avatar! For many people swinging is a huge step for couples/singles. Some like to test the water and take a while to feel comfortable before they take that first step. For some that could be 6 or even 9 months. No one should feel pressured into doing anything they feel uncomfortable with. Just because a profile is not verified doesn't mean they are time wasters (granted I know that there are many who are fakes). As it's been said before each to their own and if you don't like it move on (there's always the block button so you don't have to see their profile). " arged That is verry true what u said there some people what to get to know people first and then take it further some people just like the social life of it every one is diffrent | |||
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"I have met one or two unverified guys on here and given the benefit of the doubt. One was lovely and we had a great meet. Other was a weirdo "the chance you take. But if you think about it its the same as meeting some1 at a bar | |||
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"Profiles that are not verified by meet...cam...pic...wouldnt be bothered with it....moving swiftly on!!
The above is on a MEET basis....more than happy to chat and get to know people on the forum...and build up trust...but lets be honest if your looking for a meet it saves all the bullshit when a profile is verified....we have been stung by way to many fakes on here.... "Ha ha I just got stung tonight by an unverified couple  | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining "whats wrong with people asking to know if ur genuine or not , thats what the tick is for but u dont have to show ur veries if u dont want too , there is way too mant fakes and timewaster here that having a tick to prove ur genuine is ing a few fakes out , how is that super ficial as u put it , its call honesty as we see it
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining "u hit that on the nail and people should not Jugde other people it take us a long time to get our first meet and it was only a coffee but we still meet a nice couple | |||
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"I've been asked not to show mine by the person who gave it to me... Some people don't want to be seen to give out loads of verifications. Understandable I think anyway." u have got respect for the person | |||
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"I've been asked not to show mine by the person who gave it to me... Some people don't want to be seen to give out loads of verifications. Understandable I think anyway. u have got respect for the person " Exactly! | |||
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked" You mean unicorns don't exist??!! | |||
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!! "ahem.....hi | |||
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"We do hit the block button regularly and will continue to do so!....the "long term" unverified can put across many arguments as to why they remain unverified after months and months but as I said at the begining, what do they offer a swinging site if they don't meet?....the site is called "Fab Swingers"....to me it's simple, swing or go! I'm sorry but what gives you the right to say how people use fab swingers? I don't argue with anyone why I have no verifications, but if asked I will explain. As said further up its a choice for some people, that doesn't mean they have nothing to offer whether swinging or not. Everyone has a right to be here as much as the hardcore swingers. My reason for not showing verification is simple, I'd rather someone made their decision to meet me based purely on talking to me and getting to know me, not because someone has given me a green tick to tell others he's a genuine guy. I'm not interested in superficial people. I'm photo verified and also pay my support to the site and your telling me just because I don't have a green tick I mustn't swing? Therefore I should be removed from the site so it's easier for all the "genuine swingers" to meet people without getting to know each other first, because if they have the green tick they must be alright. Different strokes for different folks, just because it doesn't suit how you want to use the site doesn't mean the non verified arent getting what we want out of the site, if they weren't they would end up leaving soon enough anyway. It's all about effort, what you put in you get out and maybe we make it more difficult for ourselves by not having veri's, but I'm not the one complaining
whats wrong with people asking to know if ur genuine or not , thats what the tick is for but u dont have to show ur veries if u dont want too , there is way too mant fakes and timewaster here that having a tick to prove ur genuine is ing a few fakes out , how is that super ficial as u put it , its call honesty as we see it
mrs crazy "That my point though, there's nothing wrong in asking is someone genuine and the green tick works for some, but it's also not full proof. People who over look profiles cause they have no green tick are superficial cause they haven't even give the person a chance solely based on no green tick rather than actually speaking to them to find out more. Yeah I understand there is loads of shit to get through here but there's a few diamonds in the rough I'm sure. I have my way of going about establishing if a person is someone I want to.meet and it works for me, doesn't mean my profile should be disabled after 6 months. | |||
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
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"Just my tuppence worth. I don't just use the green tick to decide who I'll chat to. I also look for nice public pics (not all cock ones), profile text that's more than a couple of lines and messages written in a respectful polite manner. If their first message consists of can I fuck your brains out, I don't care if they're verified or not, I am not interested in meeting them. When I see a profile that's been here for over a year that's not meet verified, I assume (rightly or wrongly) that they are not here to meet and I move on. The bottom line is it saves me wasting my time "And that's totally your choice which your entitled too as we all are. I just took offense to the original comment if your not verified you don't swing so unverified members should be deleted | |||
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
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Hhhmmm....noted, ladies I think you three need to step into my office
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"Just my tuppence worth. I don't just use the green tick to decide who I'll chat to. I also look for nice public pics (not all cock ones), profile text that's more than a couple of lines and messages written in a respectful polite manner. If their first message consists of can I fuck your brains out, I don't care if they're verified or not, I am not interested in meeting them. When I see a profile that's been here for over a year that's not meet verified, I assume (rightly or wrongly) that they are not here to meet and I move on. The bottom line is it saves me wasting my time
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
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"Well some responses have certainly been interesting!.....some just silly....lol....I am amazed how many of you accept these inactive profiles have a place on a swinging site! " Obviously your post was just to try and agitate people, it's been explained to you that it's freedom of choice and your still narrow minded enough to say that other people's choices make them silly! Well done you, because at the end of the day the unverified profiles will stay and I as well as the others will carry on using the site as we so wish. Happy Fabbing. | |||
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"Well some responses have certainly been interesting!.....some just silly....lol....I am amazed how many of you accept these inactive profiles have a place on a swinging site! Obviously your post was just to try and agitate people, it's been explained to you that it's freedom of choice and your still narrow minded enough to say that other people's choices make them silly! Well done you, because at the end of the day the unverified profiles will stay and I as well as the others will carry on using the site as we so wish. Happy Fabbing. "Just wondering if Ron has one on his own? | |||
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"Well some responses have certainly been interesting!.....some just silly....lol....I am amazed how many of you accept these inactive profiles have a place on a swinging site! Obviously your post was just to try and agitate people, it's been explained to you that it's freedom of choice and your still narrow minded enough to say that other people's choices make them silly! Well done you, because at the end of the day the unverified profiles will stay and I as well as the others will carry on using the site as we so wish. Happy Fabbing.
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"Well some responses have certainly been interesting!.....some just silly....lol....I am amazed how many of you accept these inactive profiles have a place on a swinging site! Obviously your post was just to try and agitate people, it's been explained to you that it's freedom of choice and your still narrow minded enough to say that other people's choices make them silly! Well done you, because at the end of the day the unverified profiles will stay and I as well as the others will carry on using the site as we so wish. Happy Fabbing.
Just wondering if Ron has one on his own?
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"We have lernt 1 think on fab. It doesnt matter if ur fake or real a single bi fem meet is a fable!! Yes it has happened to us we have met with a few but not as much as we would have liked You mean unicorns don't exist??!!
ahem.....hi
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Hhhmmm....noted, ladies I think you three need to step into my office
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"Personally I wouldn't meet anyone with no veris or pics, I have been told I am being unfair and how are they meant to get verified if I won't give them a chance , but I'm not Mother Teresa lol. It is just my personal preference, and I wouldn't even meet then just based on veri's , I also go with my gut feeling on them." We do engage with new, unverified profiles who sometimes turn out to be lovely, genuine people who get into the scene properly...ie: they swing....only sometimes of course!...rest of the time it's obvious that they are only here to perve at pics! | |||
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"Personally I wouldn't meet anyone with no veris or pics, I have been told I am being unfair and how are they meant to get verified if I won't give them a chance , but I'm not Mother Teresa lol. It is just my personal preference, and I wouldn't even meet then just based on veri's , I also go with my gut feeling on them. We do engage with new, unverified profiles who sometimes turn out to be lovely, genuine people who get into the scene properly...ie: they swing....only sometimes of course!...rest of the time it's obvious that they are only here to perve at pics! " Oh I love to perv a pic or two myself | |||
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"I personally think too much emphasis is placed on veri's. I meet unverified guys and so far never had a problem. I find if you only stick to verified people on here it becomes all too close knit, everyone knowing everyone else's business Should non verified be deleted after a certain time? No. Many verified people don't meet for months on end and there's no call for them to be deleted Everyone should use the site as they see fit. Block unverifieds so you don't even see them if it bothers anyone so much " Amen | |||
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"Live and let live!! We dont meet unverified but thats personal choice. There are verified people here who are unreliable too. Up to the individual and manners cost nothing to say a polite no thankyou." | |||
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"Well some responses have certainly been interesting!.....some just silly....lol....I am amazed how many of you accept these inactive profiles have a place on a swinging site! Obviously your post was just to try and agitate people, it's been explained to you that it's freedom of choice and your still narrow minded enough to say that other people's choices make them silly! Well done you, because at the end of the day the unverified profiles will stay and I as well as the others will carry on using the site as we so wish. Happy Fabbing.
If you had read it properly you will have seen that I said some responses were silly.........."I did read it properly, you did say some responses were silly, so are you saying some people's opinions are silly? If that's the case I think your opinion is silly, but am tolerant enough to except other people have different views than myself and respect them for it | |||
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"I personally think too much emphasis is placed on veri's. I meet unverified guys and so far never had a problem. I find if you only stick to verified people on here it becomes all too close knit, everyone knowing everyone else's business Should non verified be deleted after a certain time? No. Many verified people don't meet for months on end and there's no call for them to be deleted Everyone should use the site as they see fit. Block unverifieds so you don't even see them if it bothers anyone so much " | |||
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"Live and let live!! We dont meet unverified but thats personal choice. There are verified people here who are unreliable too. Up to the individual and manners cost nothing to say a polite no thankyou." exactly if it was 100% fool proof I might consider using it, but it's like using a seat belt that doesn't work all the time | |||
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why! If referring to me about being defensive, did I not say I wasn't arguing and just explaining my reason so you could understand? I just took offense to you saying we should swing or go because we are not verified. I could get a verification for you within 5 mins but what's that going to change? I'm still the same person "It doesn't change the person you are it just says someone else has met you, that's all, it is just a guide that you may be somewhat trustworthy, that you have turned up before, that you resemble your pics, it is not a guarantee of anything. But there are so many fakes and time wasters here that guide is very useful. We always try and give unverified profiles the benefit of the doubt, especially if they haven't been here long but, we have yet to find a genuine one yet. | |||
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why! If referring to me about being defensive, did I not say I wasn't arguing and just explaining my reason so you could understand? I just took offense to you saying we should swing or go because we are not verified. I could get a verification for you within 5 mins but what's that going to change? I'm still the same person
It doesn't change the person you are it just says someone else has met you, that's all, it is just a guide that you may be somewhat trustworthy, that you have turned up before, that you resemble your pics, it is not a guarantee of anything. But there are so many fakes and time wasters here that guide is very useful. We always try and give unverified profiles the benefit of the doubt, especially if they haven't been here long but, we have yet to find a genuine one yet."Look no further lol
I'm not saying the verify system is of use to members, I just don't like the view of the op that people who don't use it should be removed from the site.
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why! If referring to me about being defensive, did I not say I wasn't arguing and just explaining my reason so you could understand? I just took offense to you saying we should swing or go because we are not verified. I could get a verification for you within 5 mins but what's that going to change? I'm still the same person
It doesn't change the person you are it just says someone else has met you, that's all, it is just a guide that you may be somewhat trustworthy, that you have turned up before, that you resemble your pics, it is not a guarantee of anything. But there are so many fakes and time wasters here that guide is very useful. We always try and give unverified profiles the benefit of the doubt, especially if they haven't been here long but, we have yet to find a genuine one yet.
Look no further lol
I'm not saying the verify system is of use to members, I just don't like the view of the op that people who don't use it should be removed from the site.
I could be verified if I chose to use the system, but I'd rather someone used their own judgement when judging me and not because someone else has said he's ok
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about " I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. " Veri's plus common sense hasn't failed me yet, there's enough verified people on here I would always give preference over an unverified, don't see the problem in it, from the sounds of this thread there's lots that do meet unverified so shouldnt everyone be happy? lol | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. Veri's plus common sense hasn't failed me yet, there's enough verified people on here I would always give preference over an unverified, don't see the problem in it, from the sounds of this thread there's lots that do meet unverified so shouldnt everyone be happy? lol"
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. Veri's plus common sense hasn't failed me yet, there's enough verified people on here I would always give preference over an unverified, don't see the problem in it, from the sounds of this thread there's lots that do meet unverified so shouldnt everyone be happy? lol
Everyone is happy except the op it seems who wants non verified after 6 months removed "Wish someone would remove my profile permanently and end my addiction to this blasted place. | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. Veri's plus common sense hasn't failed me yet, there's enough verified people on here I would always give preference over an unverified, don't see the problem in it, from the sounds of this thread there's lots that do meet unverified so shouldnt everyone be happy? lol
Everyone is happy except the op it seems who wants non verified after 6 months removed
Wish someone would remove my profile permanently and end my addiction to this blasted place."Ha ha so your not happy? Group hug? | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris.
If that works for you ...great but if I was meeting alone I would message the women who left the veries to see if they stood by them ....personally I would feel better doing it that way" I agree, anytime this subject comes up theres always the backlash against people who say they use verifications as a guide, don't really understand the problem there, it's almost saying you are stupid if you think verifications are helpful lol, of course most of us know that veri's can be faked, that's why they should only be used as a guide then you can do further research if needed. | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris. Veri's plus common sense hasn't failed me yet, there's enough verified people on here I would always give preference over an unverified, don't see the problem in it, from the sounds of this thread there's lots that do meet unverified so shouldnt everyone be happy? lol
Everyone is happy except the op it seems who wants non verified after 6 months removed
Wish someone would remove my profile permanently and end my addiction to this blasted place.
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"I wouldn't meet anyone without chatting for a while, speaking on phone first. That's the only way I can determine whether someone is worth meeting, nothing to do with how many or few veri's they have. Most veri's are a load of cobblers anyway, if they were all true every man here is an Adonis who can make you gush in seconds and every woman is a goddess who who sucks like a dyson. They should be taken with a huge pinch of salt! " | |||
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"Oh I'm happy, believe me! .... And I'm happy for you. Now can we not all just live in harmony "Aye good idea!!....I'm fed up now anyway!.....gona start a new thread on profiles that started 10 months ago, showing 1 verification 10 months ago! | |||
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"And I'm happy for you. Now can we not all just live in harmony "Just like this Mr. Duffer?
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"A lot of verifications are simply to lick the ass of the person being verified. I'd much rather a "nice genuine guy, respectful and turns up when he says he will" rather than a graphic "OMG his cock was sooooo goooood!!!" " we're not pieces of meat | |||
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"A lot of verifications are simply to lick the ass of the person being verified. I'd much rather a "nice genuine guy, respectful and turns up when he says he will" rather than a graphic "OMG his cock was sooooo goooood!!!" " we're not pieces of meat | |||
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"Oh I'm happy, believe me! .... And I'm happy for you. Now can we not all just live in harmony
Aye good idea!!....I'm fed up now anyway!.....gona start a new thread on profiles that started 10 months ago, showing 1 verification 10 months ago!"Go for you life, I'll stay out of it | |||
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"And I'm happy for you. Now can we not all just live in harmony
Just like this Mr. Duffer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DR-eYIl9BU"You'll get a ban for posting a link, I'd remove your post | |||
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"And I'm happy for you. Now can we not all just live in harmony
Just like this Mr. Duffer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DR-eYIl9BU"Excellent choice though, was a big fan back in the day | |||
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"A lot of verifications are simply to lick the ass of the person being verified. I'd much rather a "nice genuine guy, respectful and turns up when he says he will" rather than a graphic "OMG his cock was sooooo goooood!!!" " I prefer that veri too and actually hold more stock in it than the graphic ones. Quite simply though a veri is a tool that can be used in your selection process, but it isn't the only one. Pics, ability to hold conversation and gut instinct are also on my criteria for meeting. | |||
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"You'll get a ban for posting a link, I'd remove your post "Deja vue? Here are what the rules state: For info: Links to other sites We have restrictions on where you can link to because otherwise people end up posting spam or links to places that host malware/spyware and it's bad for our users. You can link to: Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest) Youtube Lovehoney Wikipedia But thanks for the heads up | |||
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"You'll get a ban for posting a link, I'd remove your post
Deja vue? Here are what the rules state:
For info:
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We have restrictions on where you can link to because otherwise people end up posting spam or links to places that host malware/spyware and it's bad for our users.
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Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)
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Lovehoney
Wikipedia
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"A lot of verifications are simply to lick the ass of the person being verified. I'd much rather a "nice genuine guy, respectful and turns up when he says he will" rather than a graphic "OMG his cock was sooooo goooood!!!" " Lol some of them are for the ego of the author as well.like reading the script of a porn movie. | |||
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"A lot of verifications are simply to lick the ass of the person being verified. I'd much rather a "nice genuine guy, respectful and turns up when he says he will" rather than a graphic "OMG his cock was sooooo goooood!!!" I prefer that veri too and actually hold more stock in it than the graphic ones. Quite simply though a veri is a tool that can be used in your selection process, but it isn't the only one. Pics, ability to hold conversation and gut instinct are also on my criteria for meeting. " Couldn't agree more.....wouldn't give or display a graphic one......but never got a graphic one...lol | |||
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"Profiles that are not verified by meet...cam...pic...wouldnt be bothered with it....moving swiftly on!!
The above is on a MEET basis....more than happy to chat and get to know people on the forum...and build up trust...but lets be honest if your looking for a meet it saves all the bullshit when a profile is verified....we have been stung by way to many fakes on here....
Ha ha I just got stung tonight by an unverified couple
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"I always assume that non verified cpls and woman are fakes esp if they have no pics " Same here....if they're not willing to verify themselves privately to me then I move on. | |||
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"it took me months to get verification and even now have not met one single person. have been honest and upfront throughout to be met by ladies blocking me from contact. i did not have that problem on other sites." Perhaps it's something to do with the fact you have a couples name, yet appear to have a single male profile?? | |||
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"Profiles that are not verified by meet...cam...pic...wouldnt be bothered with it....moving swiftly on!!
The above is on a MEET basis....more than happy to chat and get to know people on the forum...and build up trust...but lets be honest if your looking for a meet it saves all the bullshit when a profile is verified....we have been stung by way to many fakes on here....
Ha ha I just got stung tonight by an unverified couple
Not suprising then....very happy to meet people we speak to and trust on here and verify them as genuine...but there are the total wasters that ruin it also... "
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"Lol.....some people are getting very defensive....the "green tick" is not in itself proof that a profile is genuine but it's a start. .thats a whole different topic...what we are talking about here are the ones who have been on for ages and have made no effort to get verified either by webcam, meeting or even photo verified...and of course it's everyone's right to get verified or not, and if verified it's up to that profile to display or hide....we are entitled to our opinion too are we not?....and I don't think it's "superficial" to want to meet genuine swingers!...if someone prefers to approach profiles which have been unverified for so long then that's their perogative but we can't understand why! If referring to me about being defensive, did I not say I wasn't arguing and just explaining my reason so you could understand? I just took offense to you saying we should swing or go because we are not verified. I could get a verification for you within 5 mins but what's that going to change? I'm still the same person
It doesn't change the person you are it just says someone else has met you, that's all, it is just a guide that you may be somewhat trustworthy, that you have turned up before, that you resemble your pics, it is not a guarantee of anything. But there are so many fakes and time wasters here that guide is very useful. We always try and give unverified profiles the benefit of the doubt, especially if they haven't been here long but, we have yet to find a genuine one yet."^^^ Totally agree | |||
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"I we had a couple contact us, checked profile, member over one year, no veris, asked why not, they said they are new and looking for the right couple. Looked at pictures they are on the site since 2010??? 4 years ? Piss or get off the pot. This made me smile " | |||
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"In fairness, I know and understand the frustration we all go through at times on here, and agree with some aspects of the OP... But, I also agree that the site is here to be used by people in whatever way they feel comfortable with, whether that's just chatting, camming or even the social side of it. There should be no pressure in 'swinging', we all take it at our pace and nobody elses. If alarm bells ring when viewing a profile, then move on, not scrutinise and point fingers... We're ALL here to have fun, in one way or another, so let's do just that! "This man talks sense and has a good taste in music, your wasted on here | |||
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"In fairness, I know and understand the frustration we all go through at times on here, and agree with some aspects of the OP... But, I also agree that the site is here to be used by people in whatever way they feel comfortable with, whether that's just chatting, camming or even the social side of it. There should be no pressure in 'swinging', we all take it at our pace and nobody elses. If alarm bells ring when viewing a profile, then move on, not scrutinise and point fingers... We're ALL here to have fun, in one way or another, so let's do just that! " | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris.
If that works for you ...great but if I was meeting alone I would message the women who left the veries to see if they stood by them ....personally I would feel better doing it that way"You'd message the women that left the veri's??!! Now there's a perfect example of why people hide veri's!! How totally indiscreet and rude.
If someone mailed me to ask about someone I'd met I'd tell them to mind their own business. | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris.
If that works for you ...great but if I was meeting alone I would message the women who left the veries to see if they stood by them ....personally I would feel better doing it that way
You'd message the women that left the veri's??!! Now there's a perfect example of why people hide veri's!! How totally indiscreet and rude.
If someone mailed me to ask about someone I'd met I'd tell them to mind their own business. "
Precisely why I'd prefer people to judge me by talking to me, not what others think | |||
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"You'd message the women that left the veri's??!! Now there's a perfect example of why people hide veri's!! How totally indiscreet and rude.
If someone mailed me to ask about someone I'd met I'd tell them to mind their own business.
Precisely why I'd prefer people to judge me by talking to me, not what others think "
Whats wrong with talking to people and having a phone chat ? Usually s out the fakes and timewasters | |||
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"I think for ladies meeting alone being able to check veries is a must......it's not just about timewasters but safety......its so easy to use the filters to narrow it down to the ppl that suite you......really don't know what all the fuss is about I don't see what checking veris has to do with safety. I don't bother with veris , the ones I have show what I mean and are jokes. I use my own common sense and set of rules before I meet and non of that involves veris.
If that works for you ...great but if I was meeting alone I would message the women who left the veries to see if they stood by them ....personally I would feel better doing it that way
You'd message the women that left the veri's??!! Now there's a perfect example of why people hide veri's!! How totally indiscreet and rude.
If someone mailed me to ask about someone I'd met I'd tell them to mind their own business. "Iam sure anyone that actually knows me knows iam neither indescrete or rude....I would not message to ask the size of his cork or was he really that good in the sack ....more like did he turn in to a mad stalker after a few meets..because as far as I know unless you leave the site your veri stays.....maby I have made myself clear....and just for the record iam in no way paranoid. ..just have a very healthy regard for my safety. ...iam sure most women can understand that | |||
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"I was here before and verified. This time around I havent got any yet... It can be hard, ive had a few no shows! I can understand people wanting a verified meet but if no one took a chance nobody would be verified!! I have pics and I read profiles and send messages with a bit of thought to balance out that I'm not verified, hopefully I will be soon and this won't be an issue for me" why don't u ask the people who verified u before to give u one again? | |||
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"I was here before and verified. This time around I havent got any yet... It can be hard, ive had a few no shows! I can understand people wanting a verified meet but if no one took a chance nobody would be verified!! I have pics and I read profiles and send messages with a bit of thought to balance out that I'm not verified, hopefully I will be soon and this won't be an issue for me why don't u ask the people who verified u before to give u one again? " Exactly what I was going to say | |||
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"We were hoping to have our first meeting in person verification this weekend, just a social at first. Arranged to skype 2mw night (pretty sure she is real), but user has unexpectedly left site. "That happens a lot | |||
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"Once again I have to say this verification and only meet from the forums is madness This site is so much more then the few who chat on here And just to make me really I popular, there's not one who posts on here I'd chase If you are going to work the "rules " as you are told , then good luck Personally I'm an individual and I will work this site ( and be happy) as I see fit 7 years and I'm still doing very well thankyou without the need to be a best buddie or feel the need to do meets Socials etc Use common sense and gut feelings. Life is grand "Not bad for a shortarse | |||
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"Once again I have to say this verification and only meet from the forums is madness This site is so much more then the few who chat on here And just to make me really I popular, there's not one who posts on here I'd chase If you are going to work the "rules " as you are told , then good luck Personally I'm an individual and I will work this site ( and be happy) as I see fit 7 years and I'm still doing very well thankyou without the need to be a best buddie or feel the need to do meets Socials etc Use common sense and gut feelings. Life is grand
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"Once again I have to say this verification and only meet from the forums is madness This site is so much more then the few who chat on here And just to make me really I popular, there's not one who posts on here I'd chase If you are going to work the "rules " as you are told , then good luck Personally I'm an individual and I will work this site ( and be happy) as I see fi Use common sense and gut feelings. Life is grand " | |||
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