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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

Duuno how this will go down on this forum but...here goes....Thanks to all those who made the supreme sacrifice on this day 70 years ago on D-Day so that we could have the freedom we now enjoy to be fab members...doubt if things had have turned out differently we would have this freedom....wat u think???

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By *irkmcquickleyMan
over a year ago

drogheda

well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely agree, having visited the beaches a few years ago it really put the scale of the operation into perspective.

It must have been terrifying. Apparently the men who were in the first wave leaving the landing craft were mostly 'green' and hadn't seen any significant action before then because no experienced soldier would have willingly gone and had an extremely high chance of dying.

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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

Yeah up to 80% dead in the first wave on omaha beach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's public, air what you want.

Their sacrifices on the sands of Normandy & supporting efforts inland by the airborne divisions helped free Europe from Hitler's veil.

They earned their respect & won't be forgotten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lest We Forget

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim

All very brave men and we should never forget the enormous price they paid for our freedom

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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

Thank you to those who have responded on here....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hitler was a psycho, fascism is abhorrent to me and I consider this civilisation to be immensely preferable to other scenarios when I run the "what if" scenarios in my tiny little head. Also, the individuals, the rank and file soldiers, were braver in the face of terrible horror and atrocity than I can get my head around.

But please don't think that it was as clear cut as the goodies v the baddies. The circumstance of fascism's rise was entirely of the allied powers' making, there were was crimes on both sides, and Britain and Russia were societies ruled by venal elites that were entirely comfortable with their own policies of mass subjagation.

Not even lions led by donkeys. Brave, honourable, unlucky sods led by fucking rats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hitler was a psycho, fascism is abhorrent to me and I consider this civilisation to be immensely preferable to other scenarios when I run the "what if" scenarios in my tiny little head. Also, the individuals, the rank and file soldiers, were braver in the face of terrible horror and atrocity than I can get my head around.

But please don't think that it was as clear cut as the goodies v the baddies. The circumstance of fascism's rise was entirely of the allied powers' making, there were was crimes on both sides, and Britain and Russia were societies ruled by venal elites that were entirely comfortable with their own policies of mass subjagation.

Not even lions led by donkeys. Brave, honourable, unlucky sods led by fucking rats."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every single person involved in overlord deserves credit especially the thousands who paid the ultimate price on d-day

And spare a thought for the unit sent in the night before in handgliders to start the whole thing off

When you go home

Tell them of us and say

That we gave our tomorrow

For your today. Lwf

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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country

Quis Separabit #LWF

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By *rianglelad OP   Man
over a year ago

Coleraine

ok keep it civil...

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

Hate to even think about the fear they felt.....so it's right they should be remembered......

Op ....every post can't just be about sex.....good for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that."

i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

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By *umpsuitCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

Well said. They should never be forgotten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?"

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Duuno how this will go down on this forum but...here goes....Thanks to all those who made the supreme sacrifice on this day 70 years ago on D-Day so that we could have the freedom we now enjoy to be fab members...doubt if things had have turned out differently we would have this freedom....wat u think???"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml "

thanks il have a luk,i luv reading about history,but thts one thing i never got,how ppl in power let hitler in!they all knew he was a crazy racist!

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

around


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml "

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence. "

it just amazes me!ive watched lots of documentries on hitler and his life,i can understand why the german ppl followed him,they thought he wud be the making of germany cos he was so passionate about the germans,but i just cant understand how the members of parliament made him the german chancellor in the first place,knowing how violent he and his party members were,in the end ppl just followed him out of fear!surely the british and americans cud have done sumthing to put a stop to him,they all knew what he was doing and what his final plans were!

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim


"Every single person involved in overlord deserves credit especially the thousands who paid the ultimate price on d-day

And spare a thought for the unit sent in the night before in handgliders to start the whole thing off

When you go home

Tell them of us and say

That we gave our tomorrow

For your today. Lwf"

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence.

it just amazes me!ive watched lots of documentries on hitler and his life,i can understand why the german ppl followed him,they thought he wud be the making of germany cos he was so passionate about the germans,but i just cant understand how the members of parliament made him the german chancellor in the first place,knowing how violent he and his party members were,in the end ppl just followed him out of fear!surely the british and americans cud have done sumthing to put a stop to him,they all knew what he was doing and what his final plans were!"

I don't think that the majority of Germans were following Hitler out of fear:- My understanding is that after the first world war the German nation had been oppressed, had their national pride eroded etc. and when Hitler came along he promised to give the Germans all of that back. He was an incredible orator, and was able to whip up emotions, and the Germans got carried along on a huge wave of emotion and hope.

With hindsight we can learn lessons, but at the time, could anyone really have foreseen what he was capable of doing?

It's frightening to think that a nation of civilised, mostly respectable people could be so brainwashed

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence.

it just amazes me!ive watched lots of documentries on hitler and his life,i can understand why the german ppl followed him,they thought he wud be the making of germany cos he was so passionate about the germans,but i just cant understand how the members of parliament made him the german chancellor in the first place,knowing how violent he and his party members were,in the end ppl just followed him out of fear!surely the british and americans cud have done sumthing to put a stop to him,they all knew what he was doing and what his final plans were!

I don't think that the majority of Germans were following Hitler out of fear:- My understanding is that after the first world war the German nation had been oppressed, had their national pride eroded etc. and when Hitler came along he promised to give the Germans all of that back. He was an incredible orator, and was able to whip up emotions, and the Germans got carried along on a huge wave of emotion and hope.

With hindsight we can learn lessons, but at the time, could anyone really

have foreseen what he was capable of doing?

It's frightening to think that a nation of civilised, mostly respectable people could be so brainwashed"

couldn't say it better myself, you saved me a lot of typing. Its scarey what a charasmatic man, with a ready made scapegoat and single minded vision can do. Pure evil, and unfortunately the state of Germany at the time was the perfect breeding ground for what ocurred

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence.

it just amazes me!ive watched lots of documentries on hitler and his life,i can understand why the german ppl followed him,they thought he wud be the making of germany cos he was so passionate about the germans,but i just cant understand how the members of parliament made him the german chancellor in the first place,knowing how violent he and his party members were,in the end ppl just followed him out of fear!surely the british and americans cud have done sumthing to put a stop to him,they all knew what he was doing and what his final plans were!

I don't think that the majority of Germans were following Hitler out of fear:- My understanding is that after the first world war the German nation had been oppressed, had their national pride eroded etc. and when Hitler came along he promised to give the Germans all of that back. He was an incredible orator, and was able to whip up emotions, and the Germans got carried along on a huge wave of emotion and hope.

With hindsight we can learn lessons, but at the time, could anyone really have foreseen what he was capable of doing?

It's frightening to think that a nation of civilised, mostly respectable people could be so brainwashed"

at the beginning i think ppl actually believed everything hitler said,i watched a documentry about it and it said tht when hitler became the leader and ppl actually realised what he and the nazis were was capable of they they followed his laws due to fear cos if they didnt a lot of them were beaten by the nazis and sum lost their jobs,then u had sum of hitlers old employees and others saying tht churchill and others in power knew he was mad!he was a great speaker tho,il give him tht!

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that."

Yet again a sad blinkered view but hey ho I'll run with it

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

Must have a read too.didn't do history in secondary. Like classy I never understood how one man had such influence.

it just amazes me!ive watched lots of documentries on hitler and his life,i can understand why the german ppl followed him,they thought he wud be the making of germany cos he was so passionate about the germans,but i just cant understand how the members of parliament made him the german chancellor in the first place,knowing how violent he and his party members were,in the end ppl just followed him out of fear!surely the british and americans cud have done sumthing to put a stop to him,they all knew what he was doing and what his final plans were!

I don't think that the majority of Germans were following Hitler out of fear:- My understanding is that after the first world war the German nation had been oppressed, had their national pride eroded etc. and when Hitler came along he promised to give the Germans all of that back. He was an incredible orator, and was able to whip up emotions, and the Germans got carried along on a huge wave of emotion and hope.

With hindsight we can learn lessons, but at the time, could anyone really have foreseen what he was capable of doing?

It's frightening to think that a nation of civilised, mostly respectable people could be so brainwashed

at the beginning i think ppl actually believed everything hitler said,i watched a documentry about it and it said tht when hitler became the leader and ppl actually realised what he and the nazis were was capable of they they followed his laws due to fear cos if they didnt a lot of them were beaten by the nazis and sum lost their jobs,then u had sum of hitlers old employees and others saying tht churchill and others in power knew he was mad!he was a great speaker tho,il give him tht!"

When people are made to feel at their lowest , that they have been humiliated and that the only salvation is pride......it's easy to rise to great orators !!

For all his defaults and evilness....Hitler was a master at motivation and oration .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lest we forget

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

around


"

For all his defaults and evilness....Hitler was a master at motivation and oration ."
while studying managment theory he is used as an example. He was known for using the right words to motivate. All psychology.

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By *urferniMan
over a year ago

Antrim


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that.

Yet again a sad blinkered view but hey ho I'll run with it "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that.

Yet again a sad blinkered view but hey ho I'll run with it

Like I said people don't want to hear this. Populist view is always the easiest to run with but then again facts are facts. Tunnel vision!!

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


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For all his defaults and evilness....Hitler was a master at motivation and oration . while studying managment theory he is used as an example. He was known for using the right words to motivate. All psychology."

And it's your duty , your God given duty ,should you not be viewed as the weak , the infirmed , the etc etc......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that.

Yet again a sad blinkered view but hey ho I'll run with it

Like I said people don't want to hear this. Populist view is always the easiest to run with but then again facts are facts. Tunnel vision!!

"

Who's wearing the blinkers here then???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that.

Yet again a sad blinkered view but hey ho I'll run with it

Like I said people don't want to hear this. Populist view is always the easiest to run with but then again facts are facts. Tunnel vision!!

"

Who's wearing the blinkers here then???

Also when hitler was doin the unthinkable in Europe the Catholic Church were standing over babies been thrown into a pit in Tuam which went on for many years after hitler among other unthinkable things which the state here dared not to question the church.

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country

Read the OP's opening statement , his reverance , his small eulogy to those who have gave their today for our tomorrow !!!!!

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

Pleasantly surprised at the support shown for the commemoration of those people that took part in D Day.

Nobody can actually say where we would be today without their sacrifice but that's not really the point. The sacrifice was made

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should never forget these brave young men that gave their lives for our freedom...

Lest we forget...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were sent as lambs to the slaughter. Another example of poor men fighting rich men's wars.

Hitler was trying to conquer Europe like the British empire tried to conquer most of the planet and slaughter an unknown number of civilians, which were not soldiers, in foreign lands. They still occupy foreign land on this island. There's very little difference in what Germany tried to do and what the British did before and after the second world. But people don't want to hear that."

I think there's a huge difference between what went on in the past. Yes Britain and other colonial powers are responsible for exploiting other nations and ruling for their own benefit but Hitler's policy of systematically eradicating certain groups was just pure evil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i dont get how hitler was allowed so much control over most of europe when they all knew he was a nutcase!how did he even get into parliament?

combination of a populist policies, a down trodden population and brute force. This is actually a pretty decent timeline if you're interested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerpowerrev1.shtml

thanks il have a luk,i luv reading about history,but thts one thing i never got,how ppl in power let hitler in!they all knew he was a crazy racist!"

if you like this kind of history take a look at the story of Stanley Hollis the only man to win the VC on D-day, war-experience.org have his own account of the day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think there's a huge difference between what went on in the past. Yes Britain and other colonial powers are responsible for exploiting other nations and ruling for their own benefit but Hitler's policy of systematically eradicating certain groups was just pure evil. "

The only difference was Nazi Germany used industrial processes. It wasn't good v bad, it was us v them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lest we forget

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Duuno how this will go down on this forum but...here goes....Thanks to all those who made the supreme sacrifice on this day 70 years ago on D-Day so that we could have the freedom we now enjoy to be fab members...doubt if things had have turned out differently we would have this freedom....wat u think???"

Totally behind you on your post m8 those guys lost everything and lives ment nothing for freedom. But how do you think thoes brave solders would feel now if they could see the world now for what it is now. Would you lay down your life today in the way they did? I think not & how sad that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Resect was a word that had meaning then. Kids now dont even know what the word means. I pay my humble most respect two both sides for the prise they paid japan also and to all 50 mill plus who lost their lives #humbled

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By *azsinsMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"Duuno how this will go down on this forum but...here goes....Thanks to all those who made the supreme sacrifice on this day 70 years ago on D-Day so that we could have the freedom we now enjoy to be fab members...doubt if things had have turned out differently we would have this freedom....wat u think???"

I think you did a great thing posting this. You have my respect along side the men that gave everything that day.

My respect is for the courage to face your fears and still do what you believe to be the right thing as all the men on D-Day did on that terrible day.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Highest respect and gratitude to those brave men.and boys.most of them were only kids.but fought like men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to say the story of the 90 year old on the news who escaped his care home to go to Normandy was heart lifting and funny, it showed that the older generation give a fuck about things, it ment the world to him to attend and attended he did wether it killed him or not

how a days we just sit back and let things just happen ie higher taxs petrol prices etc without a fight we really need to get are balls back and fight back, wish I had half of that mans passion to get what he wanted

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