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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? in all honesty it should be back in this country. Really? If it was maybe ian bailey wud b dead by now for killing sophie du plontier" Was he found guilty of something? | |||
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"No human should have the right to take another's life. It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted." I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system | |||
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"He deserved it and karma that it was botched He was a rapist and murderer and got what he deserved That's just my opinion " Agree! | |||
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? in all honesty it should be back in this country. Really? If it was maybe ian bailey wud b dead by now for killing sophie du plontier Was he found guilty of something?" Well not because of a lack of trying by crooked cops | |||
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"First thought: I'm against it and judging from the number of murders in the US it doesn't really stop people from killing each other. But if someone I love would be brutally murdered I may change my mind. I don't know. No wonder there are always disputes about this, I can't even make up my own mind ffs" that is exactly how I feel , and it is always easy to think a certain way about something when you don't have a personal attachment, it can certainly change your opinion once it happens to you. | |||
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? " There's no place for the death penalty in a modern society. I might wish some people dead for what they've done but a government should not kill people full stop. | |||
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"No human should have the right to take another's life. It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted. I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system" This is the number they are working with as proof emerges over the years. | |||
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"No human should have the right to take another's life. It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted. I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system" You may also be surprised to hear that there are more white people on the U.S. death row than black people & that in the last 40 years nearly twice as many white people have been executed. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there...." And if they're innocent?? | |||
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"That guy buried that poor girl alive ... He got what he deserved " oh my god! that is pure sadism. | |||
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"That guy buried that poor girl alive ... He got what he deserved " Sent shivers straight up my spine when I read that bit | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... And if they're innocent??" If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind... | |||
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"That guy buried that poor girl alive ... He got what he deserved " And forced her to watch them digging it | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... And if they're innocent?? If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind..." Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court. | |||
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"That guy buried that poor girl alive ... He got what he deserved And forced her to watch them digging it " good lord, I hadnt read the details of this case yet, that poor woman, ending he life praying for death, unimaginable, the evil that human beings do to another never fails to sicken me. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... And if they're innocent?? If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind... Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court. " Equally plenty of guilty people get good lawyers and can "prove" they are "not" guilty. The law sucks and not in a good way! | |||
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent?" Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty" Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... And if they're innocent?? If they're innocent, they should be able to prove it. Remember the burden of proof is beyond reasonable doubt, to a jury of your peers. For the greater good of all, is the saying that comes to mind... Plenty of innocent people can't manage to "prove" their innocence in court. Equally plenty of guilty people get good lawyers and can "prove" they are "not" guilty. The law sucks and not in a good way! " No, an accused person doesn't need to prove they're not guilty. | |||
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent? Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty" Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang" Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free?? | |||
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent? Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty" Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free??" Wat about the innocent thats hanged? Agree to disagree as u say | |||
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"See, this is what annoys me. People get aquitted in the criminal courts, or have convictions overturned, having been found to be 'unsafe' and are decreed as being innocent. Yet a large number of these cases are then pursued by victims in the civil courts, where the burden of proof is "in all probability" and the courts find in favour of the victim. Is that innocent? Legally yes.wud u rather the criminal courts hav same standard as civil court? As in "probably guilty" Better a hundred guilty walk free than 1 innocent hang Agree to disagree on that one. A Country that is scared to enforce the law, to the greater good of all is faiing in it's duty. What about the victims of the hundred guilty, that you advocate letting walk free??" The Spanish inquisition lads were great lads for enforcing the law. Evil bastards though. | |||
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? " Are we thinking of introducing it into fab for the Faker's ...lol In this case an eye for an eye just does not add up .. Lock them up for life and l mean for life ...after reading the tweets from this execution its seems as barbaric as the crime | |||
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"Ohhh its a tough one the last woman to be Executed in Holloway was Ruth Ellis in the fiftys I believe and even today still huge debate over it. " Hope the debate was about her innocence or guilt. Not because she was a woman | |||
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"Ohhh its a tough one the last woman to be Executed in Holloway was Ruth Ellis in the fiftys I believe and even today still huge debate over it. Hope the debate was about her innocence or guilt. Not because she was a woman" im not sure of the whole story it was a crime of passion and was apparently mentally unbalanced .. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there...." It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. | |||
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"Bull shit u cant compare ireland with america,i dont know of anx irish people wrongly executed." There's plenty of them. They were a long time ago though so that's probably why you don't know of them. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life." That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! | |||
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"So come on all you advocates, does it matter how you kill the accused? Maybe an eye for an eye?" Was it Michael Portillo who did the documentary a few years ago about methods of execution? I'm not sure if it was but his contention that the use of nitrogen gas would result in the victim dying in a state of euphoria. It seemed like the ideal way to kill someone but the pro death penalty lobby in the USA weren't having any of it. They preferred the idea of a bit of suffering! | |||
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"An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind " There was a system in Ireland one time where the criminal had to make compensation to the victims family for his crime eg if he/she killed a farmer they had to take the farmers place and work the farm. This sort of punishment is more beneficial than prison...... I suppose community service is today equivalent. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!!" That doesn't stop it being a fact. | |||
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"in america there are 200000 people in prisons for murder so clearly the punishment doesnt scare people from murdering others. the swiss nation have the same right as americans to hold firearms but u dont see them killing every body who says a wrong word to them. i think the death penalty doesnt work so it should be done away with. if any1 can come up with what to replace it with that would be good. what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member? " Life in prison.for some life with no parole | |||
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" what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member? Life in prison.for some life with no parole" Exile? | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! That doesn't stop it being a fact." No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! That doesn't stop it being a fact. No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. " Ridiculous. | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! That doesn't stop it being a fact. No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. Ridiculous." How? What can you prove in 15 years, that you can't prove in 1?? | |||
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"Ok, so someone murders someone and we straight off spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, providing them with legal representation. They're convicted and we then spend £40,000 a year to keep them in Jail, for the next how long? They're fed better than most, kept warm, receive medical attention, provided with free recreation faciities etc etc etc YET the NHS won't pay for Cancer beating medication, as they can't justify the cost?? Morally there's something wrong there.... It costs more to execute someone in the U.S. than it does to lock offenders away for life. That's because the average time spent on death row, following trial and sentencing, is in the order of 15 - 20 years, during which time legal costs continue to escalate...simple as that. Smoke and mirrors, amoke and mirrors!!! That doesn't stop it being a fact. No but it puts it into context, the system, NOT the punishment, fails...predetermine the maximum stay of execution, to 1 year maximum. Ridiculous. How? What can you prove in 15 years, that you can't prove in 1??" Someone's innocence. | |||
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"No human should have the right to take another's life. It is assumed that 3-5% of death row inmates in America are innocent or wrongly convicted. I would imagine its alot higher.wat with the fucked up racists american justice system You may also be surprised to hear that there are more white people on the U.S. death row than black people & that in the last 40 years nearly twice as many white people have been executed." True but blacks make up 42% of death row inmates but only 12% of the general population. But there are slightly more white people on death row in the US but whites are underrepresented as a percentage of the general US population. The same is true for those actually executed blacks are over represented given that they make up around 12% of the population. Also in interracial murders only 20 white people have been executed for murdering a black person but 270 blacks have been executed for murdering white people. | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes." Executed 6 ppl in iran I think cpl days ago for robbery.26 this year | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes." Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow." Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! " Not even to the shops | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops" It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" " Look wat happens wen they go online They do b riding lads like us | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" Look wat happens wen they go online They do b riding lads like us " Sometimes... Not often enough though! | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" Look wat happens wen they go online They do b riding lads like us Sometimes... Not often enough though! " I really shouldn't laugh cos it just encourages you but what the hack...... PMSL | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" Look wat happens wen they go online They do b riding lads like us Sometimes... Not often enough though! I really shouldn't laugh cos it just encourages you but what the hack...... PMSL " That's it... Just cough it up Cheeky! | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Some also make women wear burkhas, don't let them drive, go on holidays, work etc Some also execute people for homosexuality or possession of cannabis so hardly an example to follow. Jaysus, I can see the sense of not letting them drive alright! Not even to the shops It's not widely known but online shopping was designed specifically to resolve the problem of women "drivers" Look wat happens wen they go online They do b riding lads like us Sometimes... Not often enough though! I really shouldn't laugh cos it just encourages you but what the hack...... PMSL That's it... Just cough it up Cheeky! " Well it ain't ice cream Im coughing up!! .-( | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes." Most Arab countries do not have stoning as the death penalty. Stoning is only included in the laws of 4 countries of the Middle East (Arab ) Its also included in the laws of Pakistan, sudan and some areas of Nigeria It's not used for murder, it's used for homosexuality and aldultery ( which includes being raped) | |||
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"most arab countries still have stoneing as there death penalty i think for murder and other such crimes. Executed 6 ppl in iran I think cpl days ago for robbery.26 this year" 683 men sentenced to death on Monday in Egypt for the death of one man | |||
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"And just to throw a spanner in the mix for those advocates of the death penalty. The person on death row is YOUR son or YOUR daughter......." If they took a life, how could I say that I don't deserve the grief of their victim's parents, who experience it with no judicial process and only due to the actions of a murderer?? | |||
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised. The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row. Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life. As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. " | |||
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised. The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row. Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life. As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. " | |||
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me. " Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... | |||
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me. Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... " Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed? | |||
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"A society that is willing to take the life of a citizen no matter how heinous the crime can hardly call its self civilised. The criminals on death row in the U.S.A. don't come from mars.Most come from poor under privileged backgrounds If they could afford proper legal representation the majority would avoid death row. Also the average stay on death row is ten years with the appeal system and cost more than it would to keep the prisoner locked up for the rest of his natural life. As a civilised society should be more concerned with the environments that created these criminals and correct the problems there. " +1 | |||
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me. Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed? " Ouch....that's a tough one! I'd feel heartbroken.... Also there are loads of people on death row who commited murders in there teens...people can change...also victim of circumstance is often a large role to play ... But there is lots of reasons why people commit heinous crimes,sociopaths and pedophiles people who get pleasure from torture and killing id fry them!! Loved one or not.... | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days" Agreed.... | |||
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me. Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed? " If it was a loved one of mine committed a crime I would expect them to be punished no matter how horrible it makes you feel the worst thing I would feel would be disappointment in myself and them, me for not bringing them up with the values I hold dear and them for not having the sense to not do it. | |||
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"Killing someone as punishment because they have killed someone seems ridiculous to me. Sorry im a firm believer in a eye for a eye....also if anyone ever hurt my loved one id gladly put the needle in myself... Would u feel the same any if it was ur loved one who was being executed? If it was a loved one of mine committed a crime I would expect them to be punished no matter how horrible it makes you feel the worst thing I would feel would be disappointment in myself and them, me for not bringing them up with the values I hold dear and them for not having the sense to not do it." | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days" So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? | |||
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"in america there are 200000 people in prisons for murder so clearly the punishment doesnt scare people from murdering others. the swiss nation have the same right as americans to hold firearms but u dont see them killing every body who says a wrong word to them. i think the death penalty doesnt work so it should be done away with. if any1 can come up with what to replace it with that would be good. what sentance do you give a child killer? a person who rapes and kills a woman? or a person who guns down a rival gang member? Life in prison.for some life with no parole" there should be some labour involved, let them give something back to society at least. Btw, it's harder to get a gun in Switzerland than it is in the US. Although men who are still active in the military keep their weapons at home. Up until a few years ago, they also kept some ammunition at home as well. There were some bad incidents however, considering that around 600'000 households have a weapon at home, it's very very rare. I guess it has to do with how the society works and values are tought. You won't find that much desperate poverty and lack of education in Switzerland as in the US. Put a gun into a hungry, uneducuated and/or abused person's hands and wait for the terror to happen. I'm not justifying people being killed, but just following on what elusive male said | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? " As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? " Look seriously sociopaths...and pedophiles who murder the innocent give them the needle.... | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years." Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. " Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought..... | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. " Back off I didn't say anything about them. We are talking about murders, rapists ect people who deserve it. If you have the right lawyer you can literally get away with murder now a days. That is why I said give them the resources, the above mentioned did not have the proper resources and nowadays tests. | |||
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" Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. Back off I didn't say anything about them. We are talking about murders, rapists ect people who deserve it. If you have the right lawyer you can literally get away with murder now a days. That is why I said give them the resources, the above mentioned did not have the proper resources and nowadays tests. " They were all convicted of murder and were all 100% innocent. | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought....." Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought..... Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. " After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought..... Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent" Er.. You're wrong you know. | |||
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"Forget if they got compensation or not, but they did, do u want ppl convicted on an "unsafe"or "unsatisfactory" conviction? Reading some of the posts, probably" Hmm Noticed how all those in favor of an eye for an eye haven't commented on how it's ok to sentence to death so many for the death if one man. | |||
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"My view on this is the punishment should fit the crime, yes there is wrongly accused people you give the the resources and five years to prove their innocence. But people caught red handed she be tried and punished in days So you'd have executed the Guildford four, the Birmingham six, and the ten members of the Maguire family, all of whom were innocent?? As I said give them the resources to prove their innocents and five years. Right, so you'd have executed the lot of them then. The entire world could see they were innocent, apart from the British judiciary. It took some of them 16 years to have their names cleared. Factually the convictions were deemed 'unsafe' and 'unsatisfactory'. They were never awarded compensation, as would have been the case if they had been declared innocent. Food for thought..... Lol, you're rewriting history. They got compensation alright. After many years they received moderate ex gratia payments, they did not receive 'compensation' at the level afforded to someone proven innocent" "They gave me £546,000 - for taking me, torturing me and framing me; taking my father, torturing him and having him die in prison; then leaving me sinking in the quicksand of my own nightmares." G.Conlon. | |||
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"How about no death sentence, but also no segregation. The ones who deserve to die probably will." That would be putting law in the hands of the lawless! | |||
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE There is No Fear anymore..no Respect. There should be! If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life! The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again. Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim. If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!! Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!! We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice?? We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished! Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed. Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks Tougher sentencing... Yes Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice " Very well put Mr Wexcock | |||
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE There is No Fear anymore..no Respect. There should be! If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life! The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again. Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim. If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!! Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!! We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice?? We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished! Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed. Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks Tougher sentencing... Yes Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice " Its worked real well for america hasnt it. | |||
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE There is No Fear anymore..no Respect. There should be! If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life! The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again. Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim. If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!! Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!! We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice?? We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished! Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed. Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks Tougher sentencing... Yes Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice Its worked real well for america hasnt it. " Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there. And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE... People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp. | |||
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE There is No Fear anymore..no Respect. There should be! If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life! The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again. Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim. If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!! Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!! We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice?? That We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished! Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed. Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks Tougher sentencing... Yes Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice Its worked real well for america hasnt it. Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there. And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE... People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp. " If prison is such jolly fun, why do people constantly try to break out? | |||
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"The simple truth is... the courts..the laws the prison system IS A JOKE There is No Fear anymore..no Respect. There should be! If someone murders another person.. that's premeditated..or as a result of a crime..robbing a bank or breaking into a home.. they have Taken Another Persons Life! The victim..will never eat sleep or breath again. Why are the laws protecting the guilty...wheres the protection for the victim. If someone I loved was murdered..id want to see the murderer drag through the streets in fear... in public for everyone to see...id want that person hung up to die... all the begging for mercy..pissing themselves... how much mercy has that person shown to the victim!! Our system is falling apart... career criminals.. murderers..rapists are laughing at jail. If u get caught you get look after..u get free food free electricity..free study..free medical.. there's even plans for free internet!!! We have to pay for everything.. where's the justice?? That We've all gotten too nicey nicey.. theres no punishment anymore... worrying about human rights of the criminal... a criminal..someone who breaks the law should forfeit their human rights and should b punished! Death penalty.. Yes..only on being 100% proven.. id caught on camera.. or found with the body under the bed. Harder prisons...Yes..chain gangs..splitting rocks Tougher sentencing... Yes Sorry a bit of a rant...just sick of people being too nice Its worked real well for america hasnt it. Americans are idiots... if an American is reading this he'll agree No...I don't mean just bring it in... I mean the conditions for Death penalty would have to be stricter... only for the complete nut jobs out there. And anyone who's done a violent crime..rape..child abuse.. muggings.. should be tagged..FOR LIFE... People are let out of prison all the time..and go straight back to what they did before... WHY?? Because there is no punishment! Prison is a holiday camp. If prison is such jolly fun, why do people constantly try to break out? " Lol good point Id say it something to do... like a hobby. If they weren't fed sooo well they wouldn't have the energy to try n break out | |||
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? " i think serial killers and paedophiles shud all get the death penalty!! | |||
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"Just reading about the botched execution of the man in Oklahoma. Just wondering what the opinion is regarding the death penalty? i think serial killers and paedophiles shud all get the death penalty!!" Agree | |||
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