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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?"

If you read the same article as I did you'd already know the answer.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

If you read the same article as I did you'd already know the answer."

i didnt get to read it is it becuase they are only jobsbridge of similar ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector."
yes the saying was! Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector.yes the saying was! Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?"

what do YOU think?

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin."

If you think the majority of people who are on the dole are on it because they want to be you're delusional. There certainly are some, but it's foolish to think that everyone is. Some of the wasters worked for years as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector.yes the saying was! Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

what do YOU think?"
what I think and what I no are two diff things! I know for a fact that certain people won't work in certain work areas

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin.

If you think the majority of people who are on the dole are on it because they want to be you're delusional. There certainly are some, but it's foolish to think that everyone is. Some of the wasters worked for years as well. "

yeah i was unemployed for a while and i couldnt get a low paying job as i was told that the fact i had 2 degrees was going against me when i was going for minimum wage jobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't say that. But there is a hardcore that do not want to work and if someone worked before that shouldn't mean he has a right to sit back because there's no big money to be made now. Wages are reduced but they still should work for it.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin.

If you think the majority of people who are on the dole are on it because they want to be you're delusional. There certainly are some, but it's foolish to think that everyone is. Some of the wasters worked for years as well.

yeah i was unemployed for a while and i couldnt get a low paying job as i was told that the fact i had 2 degrees was going against me when i was going for minimum wage jobs "

Yep, because as soon as something better comes along, you're out of there and they have to start looking again.

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By *ongbow71Man
over a year ago

Bangor, Norn Iron


"Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?"

I've been unemployed now for almost a year and I work in the catering/hospitality sector. I have found that many employers are only offering 20 or 30 hour contracts. This way, if they are busy they can give the staff more hours, without the risk of paying staff to stand around if they're not.

Without this guarantee of hours, many are not willing to take the risk that they will get extra work and be able to cover their bills. Financially I would be worse off if I was to work for 30 hours a week at minimum wage, so why should I. Nothing to do with laziness, more to do with economics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll never knock anyone that tries and makes the effort. But improvise and compromise is the key.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin.

If you think the majority of people who are on the dole are on it because they want to be you're delusional. There certainly are some, but it's foolish to think that everyone is. Some of the wasters worked for years as well.

yeah i was unemployed for a while and i couldnt get a low paying job as i was told that the fact i had 2 degrees was going against me when i was going for minimum wage jobs

Yep, because as soon as something better comes along, you're out of there and they have to start looking again. "

well one of them was in an engineering company my degrees are in engineering and i said i was happy to learn their buisness from the very bottom gen op and work my way up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector.yes the saying was! Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

what do YOU think?what I think and what I no are two diff things! I know for a fact that certain people won't work in certain work areas "

Ok so you've told me what you know....but you still haven't told me what you think...

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By *ongbow71Man
over a year ago

Bangor, Norn Iron

And before I get jumped on for being a free loading waster, I want to work and am looking and applying for jobs almost daily.

To put in perspective, what I get in benefits (jobseekers and housing) is roughly what I would get taking a 40 hour a week job at minimum wage after tax.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

If you read the same article as I did you'd already know the answer."

He did read it but he didnt accept the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

I've been unemployed now for almost a year and I work in the catering/hospitality sector. I have found that many employers are only offering 20 or 30 hour contracts. This way, if they are busy they can give the staff more hours, without the risk of paying staff to stand around if they're not.

Without this guarantee of hours, many are not willing to take the risk that they will get extra work and be able to cover their bills. Financially I would be worse off if I was to work for 30 hours a week at minimum wage, so why should I. Nothing to do with laziness, more to do with economics."

Why shouldn't you???

There's a better chance of getting a full time job if employed.

You have to take risks without guarantees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

If you read the same article as I did you'd already know the answer.

He did read it but he didnt accept the answer "

Pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And before I get jumped on for being a free loading waster, I want to work and am looking and applying for jobs almost daily.

To put in perspective, what I get in benefits (jobseekers and housing) is roughly what I would get taking a 40 hour a week job at minimum wage after tax."

See where your coming from that's why I say there's too much on benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

If you read the same article as I did you'd already know the answer.

He did read it but he didnt accept the answer "

You're on form today Hal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nope. Low wages. Hospitality sector doesn't want to pay so people ain't coming off the dole to take the Jobs. Also less immigrants coming in with experience in that sector.yes the saying was! Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

what do YOU think?what I think and what I no are two diff things! I know for a fact that certain people won't work in certain work areas

Ok so you've told me what you know....but you still haven't told me what you think..."
if a full time job is been offered at minimum wage, what does it work out at a week? Surely it be more then what you get on welfare, no?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not as easy as it used to be you could walk from one job to the next i would rather work than be on the dole and i have worked at diffrent jobs from nursing homes .truck driving farm work and washing pots and pans am always on the lookout for work and will take what i can get .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its not as easy as it used to be you could walk from one job to the next i would rather work than be on the dole and i have worked at diffrent jobs from nursing homes .truck driving farm work and washing pots and pans am always on the lookout for work and will take what i can get ."
the point I'm also making is just because someone is unemployed doesn't mean they will work at anything! I'll give u an example! A person whose shy is not gonna work in a sales job! Even if a person is unemployed lots still are choosy in what they will do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its not as easy as it used to be you could walk from one job to the next i would rather work than be on the dole and i have worked at diffrent jobs from nursing homes .truck driving farm work and washing pots and pans am always on the lookout for work and will take what i can get ."

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By *eise68Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?"

Lost of these jobs are not full time. So if somebody works say 4 hours a day. Over 5 days thay cant claim any social welfare. And will come out with a about €180 a week. Less then the social welfare. I know of a friend who was unememployed she took a job like this for a few months. To gain experience.

Went back on the social welfare and was then informed that she would not be entitled to a CE scheme even though the place where she worked were offering her work on a scheme. So she had to sit on her arse for a year so she could build up time on benifit.

One of the biggest supermarkets in the country opperate a 12 hour shift. 3 people cover the shift. Meaning they dont have to pay for breaks. So a person on a shift like this will prob come out with €200 a week but not be entitled to any social welfare but somebody in same supermarket working lets say two 8 hour shifts over 2 days a week.

Can then come claim 4 days social welfare. The system is unfair. It should be on hours worked over a week. Not per day as is the case in the UK.

Its stopping genuine people who are unemployed trying to pick up part time work. Because if you only work 1 hour a day youu are not entitled to claim any social welfare payment.

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By *ongbow71Man
over a year ago

Bangor, Norn Iron


"Do we need to increase minimum wage or are people just to lazy to take the jobs?

I've been unemployed now for almost a year and I work in the catering/hospitality sector. I have found that many employers are only offering 20 or 30 hour contracts. This way, if they are busy they can give the staff more hours, without the risk of paying staff to stand around if they're not.

Without this guarantee of hours, many are not willing to take the risk that they will get extra work and be able to cover their bills. Financially I would be worse off if I was to work for 30 hours a week at minimum wage, so why should I. Nothing to do with laziness, more to do with economics.

Why shouldn't you???

There's a better chance of getting a full time job if employed.

You have to take risks without guarantees.

"

If I lived on my own, maybe, but I don't want to be in the position where I can't feed my kids or have them sitting in the dark because there wasn't any overtime going.

We have given up Sky, our home phone and the internet, We don't go out anywhere (pub, cinema, McDonalds etc), all my shoes have holes in them, all the kids clothes are hand me downs from the boy next door. I'm not living the high life here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The dole and all the free benefits need to be reduced. People get too much for nothing in this country it's a disgrace. Anyone that refuses a job that's local should have their dole halved. There's no freebies for the working people only pay taxes to keep the 'wasters' goin."

dont agree the dole shud be reduced at all!not for genuine ppl luking for work!i think there shud be sum sort of a scheme were ppl tht are on the dole more than a yr shud be cut off unless they show evidence tht they are genuinely luking for work!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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over a year ago


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

Lost of these jobs are not full time. So if somebody works say 4 hours a day. Over 5 days thay cant claim any social welfare. And will come out with a about €180 a week. Less then the social welfare. I know of a friend who was unememployed she took a job like this for a few months. To gain experience.

Went back on the social welfare and was then informed that she would not be entitled to a CE scheme even though the place where she worked were offering her work on a scheme. So she had to sit on her arse for a year so she could build up time on benifit.

One of the biggest supermarkets in the country opperate a 12 hour shift. 3 people cover the shift. Meaning they dont have to pay for breaks. So a person on a shift like this will prob come out with €200 a week but not be entitled to any social welfare but somebody in same supermarket working lets say two 8 hour shifts over 2 days a week.

Can then come claim 4 days social welfare. The system is unfair. It should be on hours worked over a week. Not per day as is the case in the UK.

Its stopping genuine people who are unemployed trying to pick up part time work. Because if you only work 1 hour a day youu are not entitled to claim any social welfare payment. "

dont think thts rite!sure wudnt it go by how much u earned a wk b4 u were entitled to social welfare,if sumone was on say 9 euro an hr and worked 5 hrs a wk sure thts only 45 euro!they wud have to get social welfare!

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By *eise68Man
over a year ago

newcastle


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no social only goes on days. If you work 1 hour on any given day you cant claim for that day. You would be told dont work for an hour on any given day. So an example a person doing home help for two hours a day 5 hours a week would not be able to claim social. They would be told give up the work and claim social.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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no social only goes on days. If you work 1 hour on any given day you cant claim for that day. You would be told dont work for an hour on any given day. So an example a person doing home help for two hours a day 5 hours a week would not be able to claim social. They would be told give up the work and claim social.

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That is so messed up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you work less than 19 hours a week you are entitled to claim something off the social.

I remember this because when I started in my current job I was on a 20 hour contract so couldn't claim anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question

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over a year ago


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no social only goes on days. If you work 1 hour on any given day you cant claim for that day. You would be told dont work for an hour on any given day. So an example a person doing home help for two hours a day 5 hours a week would not be able to claim social. They would be told give up the work and claim social.

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i googled it and it said u can be payed sum social welfare as long as u work less than 24 hrs a wk!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question "

Why wouldn't they? Plus it's had over 30 posts since it has started, if there was no interest in it no one would have posted to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question "

cos they want to!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question "

Cause they can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am Longbows wife we have two kids, I have quite a few illnesses and a on tablets for the rest of my life. I have worked from I was 16 years old and longbow has worked from he was 20 it is only in the past year we have had to claim benefits. I am not entitled to DLA or ESA as I am not ill enough to qualify even though my doctor says I am. Longbow has not been sitting on his hands he applys for jobs daily and cares for the kids and me especially when I have a flare up. We have paid our way and frankly what we get is crap, one week we have £100 to live on and the next £300 we get out rent paid but that is it. £200 a week for a family of four to live off is scandless. Our heating and electric are a quarter of what we get a week and along with insurance and other bills like fuel, we have £100 for food and other items, so don't tell me I am a scrounger i have been on both sides and don't like this one.

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

Georgiana i don't think he was calling anybody scrounger's as longbow is looking for work and we can see if he accepts work on a short time contract it doesn't make sense but there are people out there who's circumstances would lend to them taking up these jobs and refuse to take them up and rightly so these should be targeted as for long term sickness i feel ur pain as i have a seen something like this drain money from peoples left over cash after essentials are looked after there people that know how to use the system and those that need the system but cant avail of it but that's for another thread

keep at long its going to turn for u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

Lost of these jobs are not full time. So if somebody works say 4 hours a day. Over 5 days thay cant claim any social welfare. And will come out with a about €180 a week. Less then the social welfare. I know of a friend who was unememployed she took a job like this for a few months. To gain experience.

Went back on the social welfare and was then informed that she would not be entitled to a CE scheme even though the place where she worked were offering her work on a scheme. So she had to sit on her arse for a year so she could build up time on benifit.

One of the biggest supermarkets in the country opperate a 12 hour shift. 3 people cover the shift. Meaning they dont have to pay for breaks. So a person on a shift like this will prob come out with €200 a week but not be entitled to any social welfare but somebody in same supermarket working lets say two 8 hour shifts over 2 days a week.

Can then come claim 4 days social welfare. The system is unfair. It should be on hours worked over a week. Not per day as is the case in the UK.

Its stopping genuine people who are unemployed trying to pick up part time work. Because if you only work 1 hour a day youu are not entitled to claim any social welfare payment.

dont think thts rite!sure wudnt it go by how much u earned a wk b4 u were entitled to social welfare,if sumone was on say 9 euro an hr and worked 5 hrs a wk sure thts only 45 euro!they wud have to get social welfare!"

Deise68 is spot on

If u work even an hour a day you lose ur entire social payment for that day

People have a lot to lose by working as well as gaining

Sometimes it's make more financial sense not to work when u factor in lunch cost travel cost baby sitting cost

U may also lose rent allowance which is a massive help to families

We are both lucky enough to have good jobs now but we also struggled at times..don't think the dole should ever be cut for people who find themselves in hard times

Prob less than 5 percent of people on job seekers don't actually want work but the rest would love a job that pays better than what their living on at the moment

Can't class them all as wasters only the very minority of them

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By *ateatnight1055Man
over a year ago

Ballybrit

Gameing lads! I start a new job Monday. ...

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By *eise68Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Loads of jobs in the tourism sector I read today that can't be filled? The question is why when so many are unemployed?

Lost of these jobs are not full time. So if somebody works say 4 hours a day. Over 5 days thay cant claim any social welfare. And will come out with a about €180 a week. Less then the social welfare. I know of a friend who was unememployed she took a job like this for a few months. To gain experience.

Went back on the social welfare and was then informed that she would not be entitled to a CE scheme even though the place where she worked were offering her work on a scheme. So she had to sit on her arse for a year so she could build up time on benifit.

One of the biggest supermarkets in the country opperate a 12 hour shift. 3 people cover the shift. Meaning they dont have to pay for breaks. So a person on a shift like this will prob come out with €200 a week but not be entitled to any social welfare but somebody in same supermarket working lets say two 8 hour shifts over 2 days a week.

Can then come claim 4 days social welfare. The system is unfair. It should be on hours worked over a week. Not per day as is the case in the UK.

Its stopping genuine people who are unemployed trying to pick up part time work. Because if you only work 1 hour a day youu are not entitled to claim any social welfare payment.

dont think thts rite!sure wudnt it go by how much u earned a wk b4 u were entitled to social welfare,if sumone was on say 9 euro an hr and worked 5 hrs a wk sure thts only 45 euro!they wud have to get social welfare!

Deise68 is spot on

If u work even an hour a day you lose ur entire social payment for that day

People have a lot to lose by working as well as gaining

Sometimes it's make more financial sense not to work when u factor in lunch cost travel cost baby sitting cost

U may also lose rent allowance which is a massive help to families

We are both lucky enough to have good jobs now but we also struggled at times..don't think the dole should ever be cut for people who find themselves in hard times

Prob less than 5 percent of people on job seekers don't actually want work but the rest would love a job that pays better than what their living on at the moment

Can't class them all as wasters only the very minority of them

"

Its a shame. I know a lot of people on job seekers would love to work but the system is so wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question

Cause they can "
*because

This is a swinging site/forum hardly the place to discuss dole,jobs, dogs what you've had for dinner !!!! Oh wait for keyboard warriors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im looking for a job! a blowjob!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was told of a guy recently who has been on the dole for years who when required to attend an interview for work said I'm too busy can you just put me down as not suitable. And guess what instead of reporting him the twat doing the interview just did what he was asked!! . I have mates in construction who can't compete against guys drawing & working-I say report them all and give the savings to those genuinely in need.

There is huge problem with the 'entitlement' culture in Ireland which is fed by our politicians and it applies to all sectors-unemployed,public,private etc . Until responsibilities replaces entitlements we will never change anything-very frustrating for the silent majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im looking for a job! a blowjob! "

This made me laugh. ... even though I'm not into simple humour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always easy for others to tell people how to live their lives without knowing the details. There are too many sensationalist stories in the media and silly programmes on tv that brainwash people into thinking that anyone who has to claim benefits is a freeloading scrounger, stop listening to the spoonfed drivel and do your own research!

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"I was told of a guy recently who has been on the dole for years who when required to attend an interview for work said I'm too busy can you just put me down as not suitable. And guess what instead of reporting him the twat doing the interview just did what he was asked!! . I have mates in construction who can't compete against guys drawing & working-I say report them all and give the savings to those genuinely in need.

There is huge problem with the 'entitlement' culture in Ireland which is fed by our politicians and it applies to all sectors-unemployed,public,private etc . Until responsibilities replaces entitlements we will never change anything-very frustrating for the silent majority. "

Drawing the dole and working at the same time is fraud. It's a different issue entirely. I can't imagine anyone here condoning that.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Always easy for others to tell people how to live their lives without knowing the details. There are too many sensationalist stories in the media and silly programmes on tv that brainwash people into thinking that anyone who has to claim benefits is a freeloading scrounger, stop listening to the spoonfed drivel and do your own research!"

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question

Cause they can *because

This is a swinging site/forum hardly the place to discuss dole,jobs, dogs what you've had for dinner !!!! Oh wait for keyboard warriors "

Feel free not to discuss it then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Part of the problem too is the current basic wage, as long as this matches or is even less than someone is entitled to claim on job seekers there will always be those who will say why should I go back to work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why anyone would post a topic like this on a swingers site is the real question

Cause they can *because

This is a swinging site/forum hardly the place to discuss dole,jobs, dogs what you've had for dinner !!!! Oh wait for keyboard warriors

Feel free not to discuss it then "

exactly , what is the point of posts like that lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting a bit of work once in a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while "

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet it"
so say a person get 7 days work in plastering in the space of two months! Would you expect them to come off the dole knowing they will have to go on it again and through all the rigmarole when that 7 days work is over! I certainly wouldn't! What I disagree with is people with concrete work who are also signing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet itso say a person get 7 days work in plastering in the space of two months! Would you expect them to come off the dole knowing they will have to go on it again and through all the rigmarole when that 7 days work is over! I certainly wouldn't! What I disagree with is people with concrete work who are also signing "

But that person with the seven days work is under cutting the trades people who are paying tax to get the work. I have empathy with those on benefits, I myself have moved to the UK as I needed full time work, I had a business that was owed thousands and became difficult to operate without the regular cashflow, its hard but if we undercut the people who pay the tax and drive them out of business as well where will it all end up

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By *imwildWoman
over a year ago

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"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet itso say a person get 7 days work in plastering in the space of two months! Would you expect them to come off the dole knowing they will have to go on it again and through all the rigmarole when that 7 days work is over! I certainly wouldn't! What I disagree with is people with concrete work who are also signing "

They don't have to go through all the rigmarole. It's an easy process to sign off and on jobseekers for temporary work.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet itso say a person get 7 days work in plastering in the space of two months! Would you expect them to come off the dole knowing they will have to go on it again and through all the rigmarole when that 7 days work is over! I certainly wouldn't! What I disagree with is people with concrete work who are also signing

They don't have to go through all the rigmarole. It's an easy process to sign off and on jobseekers for temporary work. "
so If a person signs off for a weeks work! After that week they can reclaim job seekers immidiately again without any wait?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The issue of people on job seekers and getting a bit of work here and there, plastering or any of those trade style jobs! I say good luck to them! I would never expect them to come off the dole of they're only getting

a bit of work once in a while

I understand what you are saying but what they are actually doing is undercutting the trades people who are doing it the honest way, they can do this because they don't have to say tax. Its a whole knock on effect. If everyone took that stance the country would be in disarray and there would be no benefits giving to those that need it as no tax would be said to be there to meet itso say a person get 7 days work in plastering in the space of two months! Would you expect them to come off the dole knowing they will have to go on it again and through all the rigmarole when that 7 days work is over! I certainly wouldn't! What I disagree with is people with concrete work who are also signing

They don't have to go through all the rigmarole. It's an easy process to sign off and on jobseekers for temporary work. so If a person signs off for a weeks work! After that week they can reclaim job seekers immidiately again without any wait?"

This is true, all they need to do is give the notice of when they are working when they finish work and proof of what was paid to them. Once you work with the welfare system and keep them informed its not so much paperwork however if soviet caught working while on benefits it can be a whole different story

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