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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm back coaching kids under 8's tomorrow night and under 6's on Wednesday! At our club we have a serious lack of volunteers to help out! Is there anyone here involved in other clubs with the same problem? parents love getting their kids involved but won't help out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work as a development officer (I won't name organisation/sport)

From experience we always encourage clubs to get qualified people to help (hard to come by I know)

Parents can get in the way. Not have the right etiquette/discipline and the age of 6-9 is a key age we call it "The Window" anything they learn now will come natural to them for the rest of their life.

Possibly if funds are there to send a parent or two on a (basic) coaching course/code of ethics course.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I work as a development officer (I won't name organisation/sport)

From experience we always encourage clubs to get qualified people to help (hard to come by I know)

Possibly if funds are there to send a parent or two on a (basic) coaching course/code of ethics course. "
i have a few of my coaching gaa courses done but I see your point! A lot of parents would have no coaching knowledge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah its all about the right person with you. They don't necessarily have to know alot about the game just be able to mimic/reonforce what you do in a session and not contradict you.

Speak to the kids well etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You also then have people who are plain lazy and won't help out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The hardest part of my job is to go in and give a synopsis on coaches. ..

These guys have been working at the club for years and some

Shout

Swear

at kids because they've no etiquette. .. fair enough they're giving up their time which we respect but their kids at the end of day.

Go to your club suggest getting a parent on a course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You also then have people who are plain lazy and won't help out "

That and a fear of failure

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The hardest part of my job is to go in and give a synopsis on coaches. ..

These guys have been working at the club for years and some

Shout

Swear

at kids because they've no etiquette. .. fair enough they're giving up their time which we respect but their kids at the end of day.

Go to your club suggest getting a parent on a course"
that has been suggested but a lot of parents look at it as a babysitting service and a bit of kiddy free time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I play a background role...fundraising etc...my kids dont want me or my ex coaching, my ex does coach under age hurlers but with a different club, makes life easier...and not all parents have time either..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I play a background role...fundraising etc...my kids dont want me or my ex coaching, my ex does coach under age hurlers but with a different club, makes life easier...and not all parents have time either.. "
in our club there is a serious lack of help with coaching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure if its a time thing with parents but I do think most parents feel they don't have the skill set for coaching. In any case alot of parents do not have an interest in the sport but still would want their kids involved. And of course there are the fanatical fans that you see at every game, every training session, willing to drive to games, bring other kids with them and so on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Redman is right about the set of skills for coaching. That's what I was touching on when I said fear of failure.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

under 6's is difficult enough to coach as lots are 3-4 year olds and they're practically babies! It's hard to know what to do with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"under 6's is difficult enough to coach as lots are 3-4 year olds and they're practically babies! It's hard to know what to do with them "
funny watching them as they all just want the ball...think at that age I'd imagine just get them to enjoy it would be important, its gets serious enough at teenage level...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work with 3 year olds and in playschools too.

PM me ive ran courses I've devised for a different sport at the this age but I've ran it for hockey/hurling/soccer/rugby coaches

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!"

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt. "

It's a fraction of what's turned over, rather than what's actually available to hand out at the end of the day. Where's the corruption?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt.

It's a fraction of what's turned over, rather than what's actually available to hand out at the end of the day. Where's the corruption? "

There's corruption in all organisations. Mostly folk getting a wage/pension/expenses that do very little within the organisation.

I see grassroots coaching by the time that money is handed down there's nothing to show..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt.

It's a fraction of what's turned over, rather than what's actually available to hand out at the end of the day. Where's the corruption? "

The problem many clubs have is their running costs. The county boards seem to require endless levies and many clubs find it difficult to try and cope. Hence the need for continuous fundraising. Don't think the issue is with HQ but more so at each county level

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt.

It's a fraction of what's turned over, rather than what's actually available to hand out at the end of the day. Where's the corruption?

There's corruption in all organisations. Mostly folk getting a wage/pension/expenses that do very little within the organisation.

I see grassroots coaching by the time that money is handed down there's nothing to show..

Oh right, the gaa is corrupt because there's corruption in every organisation. Great logic, that is.I'd still like to hear who exactly is getting these big salaries for doing very little. Did the county board just establish itself out of the blue? I don't think so. The county board officers are elected by the delegates from each club so it's about as democratic as you can get.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I could do a seperate thread but won't! Anyone know any really good fundraising ideas to do in a gaa club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Same problem in most clubs especially GAA it's shocking the amount of money that is made in headquarters and isn't put back into the Grassroots.

It's actually a crime, a sin!!!

€9,000,000 given out in grants in 2013. Hardly insignificant.

That's a fraction of what is made.

Very similar to banking problems with so called people getting big wages and pensions.

Give it time and it will come out.

I love GAA But I know its corrupt.

It's a fraction of what's turned over, rather than what's actually available to hand out at the end of the day. Where's the corruption?

There's corruption in all organisations. Mostly folk getting a wage/pension/expenses that do very little within the organisation.

I see grassroots coaching by the time that money is handed down there's nothing to show..

Michael

what you're saying is also true

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

Being involved since mine where 4/5 and still involved 15years later there are lots of reasons why parents don't get involved some pointed out above but at the same time most county boards don't provide the paths for clubs to get parents involved as in free coaching courses for board na og trainers if this were done then its up to clubs to get parents to overcome their fear of failure and get involved i am sure other sports are the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Courses should be free! (Basic/introductory)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Being involved since mine where 4/5 and still involved 15years later there are lots of reasons why parents don't get involved some pointed out above but at the same time most county boards don't provide the paths for clubs to get parents involved as in free coaching courses for board na og trainers if this were done then its up to clubs to get parents to overcome their fear of failure and get involved i am sure other sports are the same "
good point but parents could also get involved on a light level! Me for example I can do they coaching but I need other bodies to help out in other ways! U could have 20 under 6's! It's impossible look after them all on ur own

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By *omcattyMan
over a year ago

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"I'm back coaching kids under 8's tomorrow night and under 6's on Wednesday! At our club we have a serious lack of volunteers to help out! Is there anyone here involved in other clubs with the same problem? parents love getting their kids involved but won't help out"

Thought it was Gay coaching when I seen da thread, must say I'm a big fan of 20 laps of the pitch,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive done the gaa course as i got roped into doing coaching plus my parents are involved in like everything lol but u dont have to have experience and mostly with under 6's its only drills. The hardest part is keeping them from fighting in line waiting their turn but my magic solution - get them to pat their heads and rub their tummies lol

THo have to say why is this beingn posted in a swing site but each to their own i suppose

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By *ohnsmithMan
over a year ago

South Tipperary

i agree with all said above.it getting harder each year to get parent involved.i have been with the juvenile here for over 15 yrs, i love it . to see kids learn and try there best and the friends they make.we had a fun cycle this year raised over 2500. it helped the club out great..the gaa brought out a fun do pack afew years back, its great. i passed it around to some parents and a few got involved with the team after. try it..

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

I found u always have five or six parents standing around we used put then in lines of four and get them to do drills then ask the by standers to look after a line and tell them to just encourage the kids it worked for us

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

"Ive done the gaa course as i got roped into doing coaching plus my parents are involved in like everything lol but u dont have to have experience and mostly with under 6's its only drills. The hardest part is keeping them from fighting in line waiting their turn but my magic solution - get them to pat their heads and rub their tummies lol

THo have to say why is this beingn posted in a swing site but each to their own i suppose"

it helps to stop us sending want to fuck now messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and the "teacher can i go toilet" or "teacher can i get a drink" lol grrrr....no u cant lol

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

THo have to say why is this beingn posted in a swing site but each to their own i suppose

it helps to stop us sending want to fuck now messages "

Not that there's anything wrong with wanna fuck now messages either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THo have to say why is this beingn posted in a swing site but each to their own i suppose"

Sure its all sport,,, but whats more competitive...in here or on the pitch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm involved in sports at underage level and trust me don't let parents get too involved, they'll bust your balls and hang u at every turn unless their little lad or lass is getting all the attention, dads too competitive and mums to protective

But good luck and every success

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont agree parents shouldnt get involved in volunteer things such as this its role model behaviour on behalf of the parents.

I do agree tho that parents shouldnt be allowed to watch their darlings in training as kids manipulate this and parents allow it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah its all about the right person with you. They don't necessarily have to know alot about the game just be able to mimic/reonforce what you do in a session and not contradict you.

Speak to the kids well etc."

Surely having a good knowledge of the game is a must...

Nothing worse than coaches with every

Qualification under the sun but have no clue of the game!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah its all about the right person with you. They don't necessarily have to know alot about the game just be able to mimic/reonforce what you do in a session and not contradict you.

Speak to the kids well etc.

Surely having a good knowledge of the game is a must...

Nothing worse than coaches with every

Qualification under the sun but have no clue of the game!!

Ideal world yes. But trying to find a helper they just have to know how to treat kids..

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

tho i dont coach in GAA i do coach an under 17s team. the club it self was set up by myself and a few friends when we where younger it has grown from the orginal senior team to having two teams at every level from u8's to over 35s and a few ladies teams to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Absolute disaster coaching! Mother of god kids are a head wreck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolute disaster coaching! Mother of god kids are a head wreck "

Deep breaths.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Absolute disaster coaching! Mother of god kids are a head wreck

Deep breaths.

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i needed plenty of them tonight! Hyper continuously ignoring what ur saying! U say it another time they then do it the opposite way! It's a good thing I have patience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you do the session plan I did up for you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you do the session plan I did up for you?"
ye worked well but not enough helpers at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you do the session plan I did up for you?ye worked well but not enough helpers at all "

Had you any help at all???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you do the session plan I did up for you?ye worked well but not enough helpers at all

Had you any help at all??? "
a few but they were useless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolute disaster coaching! Mother of god kids are a head wreck

Deep breaths.

i needed plenty of them tonight! Hyper continuously ignoring what ur saying! U say it another time they then do it the opposite way! It's a good thing I have patience "

I feel your pain had u10s indoor for an hour... Then had U 14 girls scream about rain for an hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

parents need to help more not use training as a babysitter service we find a lot of this in our local club we are very involved ourselves and now a days you have to have at least 2 adults at a training night and if its mixed training you need a female as well its a shame to have to cancel training for kids because you can't get enough people to lend a hand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I'm pleased for you. How many of the parents swing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha aboy Gerry straight into it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Haha aboy Gerry straight into it "

Well someone had to cut through the bullshit I guess!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I'm pleased for you. How many of the parents swing?

I coach 400-500 kids a week. . . And got caught by a parent at a swing party in Charleville Cork last year.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I'm pleased for you. How many of the parents swing?

I coach 400-500 kids a week. . . And got caught by a parent at a swing party in Charleville Cork last year. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I coach 400-500 kids a week. . . And got caught by a parent at a swing party in Charleville Cork last year.

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your a bad man double

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I'm pleased for you. How many of the parents swing?

nitty gritty now! you coach 400-500 kids a week! Where you find the time to swing and post in forums among that??..

I coach 400-500 kids a week. . . And got caught by a parent at a swing party in Charleville Cork last year. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Whilst I'm pleased for you. How many of the parents swing?

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dunno

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If parents are willing to help I think you need to explain to them what You need and want from them. They are obviously doing it for the right reasons just dont know what to do or how to do it. Pull them aside before session starts and explain to them what u need, that u need them to keep the kids in line and to , as best they can, mimic what you are doing. Everyone has to start somewhere. Give them some credit for at least showing an interest in their kids activities.

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