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"as a well known anti social bugger i would like to go to this " . Couldn't leave u out willy | |||
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"Yeah that's ok I can see where your coming from, but hopefully u will give me the chance to go as new x" . I hear ya! | |||
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"The meet I decide I fancy going to the two hours later I get an invite to a wedding the following morning just my luck, I'll keep an eye out for the next one, have a good one folks " . Awww no worries enjoy x | |||
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"Peeps anyone that wants to go to this m&g can u please message me with ur email address and a mobile number plz! Xx" Thought we were messaging Jaz? You can't send to you as you've blocked males. Xxxx I've sent my details to jaz this morning. | |||
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"Peeps anyone that wants to go to this m&g can u please message me with ur email address and a mobile number plz! Xx Thought we were messaging Jaz? You can't send to you as you've blocked males. Xxxx I've sent my details to jaz this morning." . Me or jaz!! And good thinking batman I will remove the block lol x | |||
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"The meet I decide I fancy going to the two hours later I get an invite to a wedding the following morning just my luck, I'll keep an eye out for the next one, have a good one folks . Awww no worries enjoy x" thanks x | |||
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" cant make this one , hope ye have a fabulous night folks xx" . Awww | |||
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"Yippeeee at last one in belfast well done jaz and specs x " . Lol shall I put u down ? Xxx | |||
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"Yippeeee at last one in belfast well done jaz and specs x . Lol shall I put u down ? Xxx" Jesus! That's a bit extreme | |||
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"cant wait for a "slo" set lol " pmsl | |||
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" cant make this one , hope ye have a fabulous night folks xx" | |||
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" cant make this one , hope ye have a fabulous night folks xx" you will be missed | |||
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"sounds interesting, will there be alcohol and other such sexual inhibitor-blockers available?" | |||
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"WOW!!!!! Thanks everyone for making Specs and I aware of your interest. Its hotting up and looking like a great night. With so many people interested in attending. Surprise, surprise there is enough interest from single guys to make this the gayest night ever at a swinging meet LOL So single guys - here are the rules 1. Dont post your interest in attending anymore, unless you are well verified by the host couples or organisers 2. If you have posted your interest make sure you have given your email address by the 25th October to either Sexy Specs or me. 3. There will be 2 spots available to men with little or no verifications. (We want to help the newbies) 4. The other spots will be given to men that are well verified at other meets with couples and ladies attending the party. 5. There will be a draw made for the men complying with the rules and they will receive an invite. 6. Any men not receiving an invite can go on the reserve list, but must be prepared to make the party at short notice. Please let us know as soon as you can if this is your desire. Apologies in advance to any of the guys that dont make it this time. Trust me I know how you feel, but if this night works well there will be others and your chance will come Keep Swinging " . Well said jaz xx | |||
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"I understand the rules for single men attending. Think I will give this a miss now I would rather be invited for who I am and not who I know or have meet. Never mind the x factor we got the fabfactor. Now you judges be nice lol Still hope you all have a fantastic night " Sorry you no longer wish to attend, and regret you feel that but I think you have the wrong end of the stick. It is precisely why we take the root of being known to someone so they can vouch for who you are. There have been too many on the site that are not who they say they are and/or have caused trouble in the past. As such, we are following the advise offered by experienced party hosts that this process reduces risk of stupidity and confrontation specially in an alcohol fueled environment. This is the first at this location and if everyone is a winner, including the venue, there will be more! This would benefit everyone on the site all round simply put we have more men wanting to go than the venue can hold in total. So the least bias way to select the attendees is by a draw out of a hat. Keep Swinging xxxxxx | |||
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"WOW!!!!! Thanks everyone for making Specs and I aware of your interest. Its hotting up and looking like a great night. With so many people interested in attending. Surprise, surprise there is enough interest from single guys to make this the gayest night ever at a swinging meet LOL So single guys - here are the rules 1. Dont post your interest in attending anymore, unless you are well verified by the host couples or organisers 2. If you have posted your interest make sure you have given your email address by the 25th October to either Sexy Specs or me. 3. There will be 2 spots available to men with little or no verifications. (We want to help the newbies) 4. The other spots will be given to men that are well verified at other meets with couples and ladies attending the party. 5. There will be a draw made for the men complying with the rules and they will receive an invite. 6. Any men not receiving an invite can go on the reserve list, but must be prepared to make the party at short notice. Please let us know as soon as you can if this is your desire. Apologies in advance to any of the guys that dont make it this time. Trust me I know how you feel, but if this night works well there will be others and your chance will come Keep Swinging " Its good to see the rules jaz and good to plan things well | |||
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"I understand the rules for single men attending.(/quote) It is precisely why we take the root of being known to someone so they can vouch for who you are. There have been too many on the site that are not who they say they are and/or have caused trouble in the past. As such, we are following the advise offered by experienced party hosts that this process reduces risk of stupidity and confrontation specially in an alcohol fueled environment. " We like the way this is being done .. We would say though that its not just single guys that can and have caused diificulties on her and in other places too least said probly for the best though We would love to come along to the M&G It would be great to meet others We would be going with friends from here If all goes well Shaz xxx | |||
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"I understand the rules for single men attending.(/quote) It is precisely why we take the root of being known to someone so they can vouch for who you are. There have been too many on the site that are not who they say they are and/or have caused trouble in the past. As such, we are following the advise offered by experienced party hosts that this process reduces risk of stupidity and confrontation specially in an alcohol fueled environment. We like the way this is being done .. We would say though that its not just single guys that can and have caused diificulties on her and in other places too least said probly for the best though We would love to come along to the M&G It would be great to meet others We would be going with friends from here If all goes well Shaz xxx" . Hi if you'd like to put ur name down can mail me pls with ur details x | |||
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"I understand the rules for single men attending.(/quote) It is precisely why we take the root of being known to someone so they can vouch for who you are. There have been too many on the site that are not who they say they are and/or have caused trouble in the past. As such, we are following the advise offered by experienced party hosts that this process reduces risk of stupidity and confrontation specially in an alcohol fueled environment. We like the way this is being done .. We would say though that its not just single guys that can and have caused diificulties on her and in other places too least said probly for the best though We would love to come along to the M&G It would be great to meet others We would be going with friends from here If all goes well Shaz xxx" Thanks Shaz I agree with your sentiments problems can be caused by all sorts of people. At the moment it is only the single guys that are over subscribed for invites. Jaz | |||
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"I understand the rules. However feel a bit saddened now. Again fab seems to turn quite cliquey. It's like being told you aren't getting a job because you haven't experience. How can you get experience if you can't get a job. Even though you could be qualified. I am a good fun person to be around. I have a very outgoing personality and get on with people from all walks of life. I am a responsible drinker and I know people would enjoy my company. A true gent and traditionally chivalrous. If I recieve an invite I will be very pleased. If not I do hope I maybe lucky enough to next time. I'll thank you in advance for your consideration folks. I never win on the lottery so I don't hold much hope now to be honest lol" It may feel that it is cliquey to you but I don't think that is a fair comment in relation to the m&g that jaz and specs are going to a lot of trouble to organise. People value their privacy highly, and yes you may know that you are a sane person but there is no way of anyone else knowing that. I find that attitude frustrating sometimes that just because someone says something on here you are just meant to accept and believe it, surely you should realise that these things take time. There are plenty of other meet and greets taking place on the forums so if you don't get to one put your name forward for another one, single men at this one are limited places and this has been up for a while now so if you don't get an invite it's not because there is a clique, you just have to persevere and keep your eyes peeled, get involved in chatrooms and forums and get to know people. sorry for the ramble but I find that attitude a bit annoying at times, especially when people are going to a lot of effort to create an event for people to enjoy. | |||
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"I understand the rules. However feel a bit saddened now. Again fab seems to turn quite cliquey. It's like being told you aren't getting a job because you haven't experience. How can you get experience if you can't get a job. Even though you could be qualified. I am a good fun person to be around. I have a very outgoing personality and get on with people from all walks of life. I am a responsible drinker and I know people would enjoy my company. A true gent and traditionally chivalrous. If I recieve an invite I will be very pleased. If not I do hope I maybe lucky enough to next time. I'll thank you in advance for your consideration folks. I never win on the lottery so I don't hold much hope now to be honest lol It may feel that it is cliquey to you but I don't think that is a fair comment in relation to the m&g that jaz and specs are going to a lot of trouble to organise. People value their privacy highly, and yes you may know that you are a sane person but there is no way of anyone else knowing that. I find that attitude frustrating sometimes that just because someone says something on here you are just meant to accept and believe it, surely you should realise that these things take time. There are plenty of other meet and greets taking place on the forums so if you don't get to one put your name forward for another one, single men at this one are limited places and this has been up for a while now so if you don't get an invite it's not because there is a clique, you just have to persevere and keep your eyes peeled, get involved in chatrooms and forums and get to know people. sorry for the ramble but I find that attitude a bit annoying at times, especially when people are going to a lot of effort to create an event for people to enjoy." I think the guy is entitled to his opinion and by voicing it , it allows other singles to agree with his principles . The lad is just getting it out there , and is not to 'annoyed' at !!! Thought this was a forum !!! I too ,asked to be considered , but no response....but hey ho that's life . I do hope everyone has a great time , as I'm sure they will. | |||
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"Again trixie, I feel you have misunderstood me. I think it's best to leave it there. I hope you all have a great time at the party. I don't expect an invite due to your closeness to Jaz and your obvious dislike to what I have said. Probably also now a dislike to me too. That saddens me. " Oh for goodness sake really? I don't even know you and have never spoken to you , why would I have a dislike for you, and I have never met jaz in my life just for the record, all I was doing was responding to what you said as you seem to think that there is a clique on here which means you will not be invited. Maybe you should read over what you said as that is kinda how it does come across! No ill feeling here whatsoever, it's only a forum ffs lol. | |||
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"Again trixie, I feel you have misunderstood me. I think it's best to leave it there. I hope you all have a great time at the party. I don't expect an invite due to your closeness to Jaz and your obvious dislike to what I have said. Probably also now a dislike to me too. That saddens me. Oh for goodness sake really? I don't even know you and have never spoken to you , why would I have a dislike for you, and I have never met jaz in my life just for the record, all I was doing was responding to what you said as you seem to think that there is a clique on here which means you will not be invited. Maybe you should read over what you said as that is kinda how it does come across! No ill feeling here whatsoever, it's only a forum ffs lol. " Apologies all round. I mistakingly thought jaz was a single profile of your partner, sorry. My mistake there. I do not apologise for anything else however. i felt you had a pop at me. I'm walking away from this one now as your tone has not been appreciated. | |||
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"Again trixie, I feel you have misunderstood me. I think it's best to leave it there. I hope you all have a great time at the party. I don't expect an invite due to your closeness to Jaz and your obvious dislike to what I have said. Probably also now a dislike to me too. That saddens me. Oh for goodness sake really? I don't even know you and have never spoken to you , why would I have a dislike for you, and I have never met jaz in my life just for the record, all I was doing was responding to what you said as you seem to think that there is a clique on here which means you will not be invited. Maybe you should read over what you said as that is kinda how it does come across! No ill feeling here whatsoever, it's only a forum ffs lol. Apologies all round. I mistakingly thought jaz was a single profile of your partner, sorry. My mistake there. I do not apologise for anything else however. i felt you had a pop at me. I'm walking away from this one now as your tone has not been appreciated." Eh? So you post something and I'm not allowed to respond or I am accused of being abusive? I'm not too sure where I was abusive there?? You may not have liked what I said doesn't mean I was having a 'pop' at you. I think you are the one who maybe needs to think about what you have said considering you were assuming I am the type of person who would be so petty as to run to jaz telling him not to invite you because of a silly forum post! | |||
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"Ok then iamalwayshorny, I yield, since you seem to think I am picking on you, for future reference I'll avoid questioning anything you post in future, deal? lol" I don't believe you are picking on me. Believe me if I did I'd tell you were to go. I'm a big, confident, intelligent, 6'5" man and I do not suffer fools. I like a debate but do not like my personal feelings questioned. Now come give me a big hug | |||
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"Allready lookin like a really chilled out night!!!!!!...pmsl... " I have hopes. | |||
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"I understand the rules for single men attending.(/quote) It is precisely why we take the root of being known to someone so they can vouch for who you are. There have been too many on the site that are not who they say they are and/or have caused trouble in the past. As such, we are following the advise offered by experienced party hosts that this process reduces risk of stupidity and confrontation specially in an alcohol fueled environment. We like the way this is being done .. We would say though that its not just single guys that can and have caused diificulties on her and in other places too least said probly for the best though We would love to come along to the M&G It would be great to meet others We would be going with friends from here If all goes well Shaz xxx. Hi if you'd like to put ur name down can mail me pls with ur details x" messged you sexyspecs xxxx shaz | |||
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"Allready lookin like a really chilled out night!!!!!!...pmsl... " defo xxp, you going ? | |||
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"We've never been to such an event. Just out of curiosity, what does it involve? Is this just meeting people and ending up (hopefully) back at a hotel room with them or does it turn into a full blown orgy with all or most attendees? " There will be no orgy at the venue. What happens after elsewhere is entirely up to you and what tickles your fancy Jaz xxx | |||
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"Allready lookin like a really chilled out night!!!!!!...pmsl... defo xxp, you going ? " No one has received an invitation yet i plan to send them to your email address by the 9th November at the latest. If you are unlucky and dont get one, there is nothing to stop you guys planning to meet up after though ( sol long as i can come lol) Jaz | |||
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"Jaz, you and your rules causing chaos here lol x" I placed the rules on the forum so the men would know exactly what will happen and how it will happen and prevent another 100 plus guys wanting to come. I was hoping this would give the guys that where keen and eager, having already expressed their interest, a better chance to attend; but hey the glass is half empty for some and half full for others. I find the assumption funny that well verified means verified by me or the hosts and not in general. I mean i have had so many meets with single guys LOL. Never mind the hilarity of referring to names drawn from a hat at random being a clique. Someone more intelligent than me can work out the probability of all the names drawn at random being known to me (NB where is Wendelin Werner when you need him) So what I will say as i feel it is important for everyone to know 1. No drugs to be sold or taken before or at the location, some of you may feel comfortable with drug cultural, I, the Hosts and the venue manager DO NOT. What you do after is your own affair. 2. Never refer to your physical presence to support your position or opinions - it is bullying and intimidation - de factum 3. I will not change the original rules even if you kiss my ass, emotionally blackmail, or use passive aggressive language to get invited and/or squeeze more information from me. The names will go into a hat and drawn at random one for the newbies, one for the well known males. If the ladies or couples oversubscribe the rules will be the same I cannot be any fairer Now please have fun we want the night to be fun for all of you Keep Swinging Jaz xx | |||
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"Allready lookin like a really chilled out night!!!!!!...pmsl... defo xxp, you going ? No one has received an invitation yet i plan to send them to your email address by the 9th November at the latest. If you are unlucky and dont get one, there is nothing to stop you guys planning to meet up after though ( sol long as i can come lol) Jaz" Apologies Jaz, I should have asked xxp had he put his name forward ... oops Course you could come along after I'm not in the running for an invite anyway ..... | |||
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"Jaz, you and your rules causing chaos here lol x I placed the rules on the forum so the men would know exactly what will happen and how it will happen and prevent another 100 plus guys wanting to come. I was hoping this would give the guys that where keen and eager, having already expressed their interest, a better chance to attend; but hey the glass is half empty for some and half full for others. I find the assumption funny that well verified means verified by me or the hosts and not in general. I mean i have had so many meets with single guys LOL. Never mind the hilarity of referring to names drawn from a hat at random being a clique. Someone more intelligent than me can work out the probability of all the names drawn at random being known to me (NB where is Wendelin Werner when you need him) So what I will say as i feel it is important for everyone to know 1. No drugs to be sold or taken before or at the location, some of you may feel comfortable with drug cultural, I, the Hosts and the venue manager DO NOT. What you do after is your own affair. 2. Never refer to your physical presence to support your position or opinions - it is bullying and intimidation - de factum 3. I will not change the original rules even if you kiss my ass, emotionally blackmail, or use passive aggressive language to get invited and/or squeeze more information from me. The names will go into a hat and drawn at random one for the newbies, one for the well known males. If the ladies or couples oversubscribe the rules will be the same I cannot be any fairer Now please have fun we want the night to be fun for all of you Keep Swinging Jaz xx " It's all good Jaz, like I said you can't please everybody | |||
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"Nicely put Jaz, especially point no.2! Now will that be seen as me ass kissing? probably " Lol by some maybe | |||
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"This isn't going to end well. I was just going to ask if anyone in here knows what a tracker mortgage is, but maybe I'll just pop back in later " I'm actually speechless..and that's saying something! | |||
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"This isn't going to end well. I was just going to ask if anyone in here knows what a tracker mortgage is, but maybe I'll just pop back in later " Lol | |||
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"Who needs CBS Drama when there's the Fab forums? Live entertainment, drama, suspense and the odd mention of sex and swinging. All for FREE!!!! Hold on 'til we grab our popcorn and beer!!" | |||
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"Wen I read the "rules" post I absolutely got the same impression as iamalwayshorny. 1. Dont post your interest in attending anymore, unless you are well verified by the host couples or organisers Sure sounded like "if we don't know ya, yer not coming in" to me. Having read hosts responses I appreciate that it may have been poorly worded but think we should maybe give the fella a break. If I was a guy I'd have been equally disappointed. It wasn't just aimed at him in particular he was just stating the rules that apply to most meets and greets! X Z x " | |||
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"This is ridiculous !!!! Wats all the fuss abt really?? It's a small meet and greet not a fuckin orgy !!! Jaz and myself will be going over all the names we have ASAP and then u will get an email from one of us confirming the venue and times!!! Now no more bloody giving off on here fecking sick off it!! " Can I interest you in some valium? | |||
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"This is ridiculous !!!! Wats all the fuss abt really?? It's a small meet and greet not a fuckin orgy !!! Jaz and myself will be going over all the names we have ASAP and then u will get an email from one of us confirming the venue and times!!! Now no more bloody giving off on here fecking sick off it!! Can I interest you in some valium? " . Pmsl yes plzzzzzzz!!! | |||
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"This is ridiculous !!!! Wats all the fuss abt really?? It's a small meet and greet not a fuckin orgy !!! Jaz and myself will be going over all the names we have ASAP and then u will get an email from one of us confirming the venue and times!!! Now no more bloody giving off on here fecking sick off it!! Can I interest you in some valium? . Pmsl yes plzzzzzzz!!! " | |||
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"This is ridiculous !!!! Wats all the fuss abt really?? It's a small meet and greet not a fuckin orgy !!! Jaz and myself will be going over all the names we have ASAP and then u will get an email from one of us confirming the venue and times!!! Now no more bloody giving off on here fecking sick off it!! " | |||
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"can i speak as an inpartial observer on the outside looking in... firstly, if that is the way they want to run their social they are within their absolute rights to do that.... their party, their rules... however, is it the type of social I would be interested in going to bearing in mind I have been to them all over the country (england, scotland and wales), and northern ireland is so on my to do list..... nope.... what it says to me is that you have a preconceived notion of how it is going to turn out... because in all my years (almost close to 8 years in the scene) of being a social whore and travelling up and down the country going to them and meeting tons of lovely and wonderful people...the one thing I can honestly tell you is that there has never been one social where the numbers had to be gerrymandered so that there were more couples than singles..... not one........... hand on heart... what you will find is that people (especially single men) will put there name down... and when they find out that "social" isn't some sort of codeword for "orgy" a lot will drop out... it has always been the way.... a lot of people in general will leave the site, or find they have over commitments, and wont be able to go the one thing we tell newbies who are genuinely interested in the scene is to try a social... speak to people, get a feel for what you may or may not want to do in the future.... but it is a giant "baby step" I think being so draconian on guys sends the wrong message... I think it might be an idea to speak to others who have held then... for example organisers of the sheffield social, or newcastle, or cardiff, or the scottish socials for example, and see what their experiences are.... notice you didn't put the same rules on single women.....or couples.... I still hope to get to northern ireland at some point... i speak to so many nice people from there that will would love to chat and converse with in person... hopefully you'll view this as positive... i know from experiences of running socials in the north east that can be a pain to organise.... and without people willing to put themselves out there, there would not be any....." I would imagine the restriction on numbers may be directly proportional to the size of the venue and the number of interested parties. In this case, it's possible that no restrictions means too many single guys show up and the venue is packed with guys which might be off-putting to the couples and girls. Just a thought. Don't really wanna take sides or anything. | |||
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" I would imagine the restriction on numbers may be directly proportional to the size of the venue and the number of interested parties. In this case, it's possible that no restrictions means too many single guys show up and the venue is packed with guys which might be off-putting to the couples and girls. Just a thought. Don't really wanna take sides or anything. " absolutely understand.... 8 years... 50 plus social events attended from glasgow and dundee to the north, southampton to the south, cardiff to the west and all points inbetween.... what you have explained, and feared, in my experience of going to them has never happened..... not once.... if we agree anyway that social is short for socialising.... and there is no play happening, which is the one thing I would absolutely emphasise to everyone... it would be a good night regardless anyway... it just sends the wrong message, something like "bad single men!!!!",.... actually the irony is that you get the see how people can behave in a social enviroment and it is one of the ways that a lot of the good single guys stand out..... anyway... honestly not looking at hijacking this thread.. | |||
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" I would imagine the restriction on numbers may be directly proportional to the size of the venue and the number of interested parties. In this case, it's possible that no restrictions means too many single guys show up and the venue is packed with guys which might be off-putting to the couples and girls. Just a thought. Don't really wanna take sides or anything. absolutely understand.... 8 years... 50 plus social events attended from glasgow and dundee to the north, southampton to the south, cardiff to the west and all points inbetween.... what you have explained, and feared, in my experience of going to them has never happened..... not once.... if we agree anyway that social is short for socialising.... and there is no play happening, which is the one thing I would absolutely emphasise to everyone... it would be a good night regardless anyway... it just sends the wrong message, something like "bad single men!!!!",.... actually the irony is that you get the see how people can behave in a social enviroment and it is one of the ways that a lot of the good single guys stand out..... anyway... honestly not looking at hijacking this thread.." I wouldn't say you're hijacking, just expressing your opinion and I know a few people will appreciate outsider viewpoints. I'm sure both points of view have merit. I'm sure the organisers had no intention of stigmatising single men, rather just tried to balance out the ratio of attendees. I'm sure, however, they'll welcome your input! | |||
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"I'm staying out of this one, last time I commented I got myself into bother lol " As Peter Griffin would say: "While I may not agree with what you say, I shall defend to the death your right to say it!" | |||
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"Having experinces of running and attending socials large and small and other things I would say that prospective attendees need to approach the thing with an bit of fore-thought as to what it takes a) To Run such an event b) Have a bit of common sense in realising that theres always going to be a need to balance numbers c) Theres no need to rip the thing apart becasue you dont like it if its not done your way.... try doing one yourself and see what it takes jaz and specs have the support of others that run and have ran very successful events and also people that have attended other MnGs etc Thank you both for putting yourselves out there to do this " | |||
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"Having experinces of running and attending socials large and small and other things I would say that prospective attendees need to approach the thing with an bit of fore-thought as to what it takes a) To Run such an event b) Have a bit of common sense in realising that theres always going to be a need to balance numbers c) Theres no need to rip the thing apart becasue you dont like it if its not done your way.... try doing one yourself and see what it takes jaz and specs have the support of others that run and have ran very successful events and also people that have attended other MnGs etc Thank you both for putting yourselves out there to do this " . Thanks art xx | |||
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"ok it is early and i have a hangover and i could be reading this entirely wrong but are people getting annoyed about not getting an invite to an event where no invites have been sent out by the way i am 6"3 " Hi Willy, thanks, you always make me laugh and you are correct in everything you say, including your height. | |||
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"Having experinces of running and attending socials large and small and other things I would say that prospective attendees need to approach the thing with an bit of fore-thought as to what it takes a) To Run such an event b) Have a bit of common sense in realising that theres always going to be a need to balance numbers c) Theres no need to rip the thing apart becasue you dont like it if its not done your way.... try doing one yourself and see what it takes jaz and specs have the support of others that run and have ran very successful events and also people that have attended other MnGs etc Thank you both for putting yourselves out there to do this Thanks Art " | |||
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"can i speak as an inpartial observer on the outside looking in... firstly, if that is the way they want to run their social they are within their absolute rights to do that.... their party, their rules... however, is it the type of social I would be interested in going to bearing in mind I have been to them all over the country (england, scotland and wales), and northern ireland is so on my to do list..... nope.... what it says to me is that you have a preconceived notion of how it is going to turn out... because in all my years (almost close to 8 years in the scene) of being a social whore and travelling up and down the country going to them and meeting tons of lovely and wonderful people...the one thing I can honestly tell you is that there has never been one social where the numbers had to be gerrymandered so that there were more couples than singles..... not one........... hand on heart... what you will find is that people (especially single men) will put there name down... and when they find out that "social" isn't some sort of codeword for "orgy" a lot will drop out... it has always been the way.... a lot of people in general will leave the site, or find they have over commitments, and wont be able to go the one thing we tell newbies who are genuinely interested in the scene is to try a social... speak to people, get a feel for what you may or may not want to do in the future.... but it is a giant "baby step" I think being so draconian on guys sends the wrong message... I think it might be an idea to speak to others who have held then... for example organisers of the sheffield social, or newcastle, or cardiff, or the scottish socials for example, and see what their experiences are.... notice you didn't put the same rules on single women.....or couples.... I still hope to get to northern ireland at some point... i speak to so many nice people from there that will would love to chat and converse with in person... hopefully you'll view this as positive... i know from experiences of running socials in the north east that can be a pain to organise.... and without people willing to put themselves out there, there would not be any....." Thank you for your input based on your experiences on the mainland, and if this works I look forward to hearing from you about attending further events in Ireland. However I would like to take this moment to clarify a few points which you have mentioned that would indicate you have not read everything i have written It is true and i expect some to drop out closer to the date of the event. This is from the expertise and experience of previous hosts that are helping me run this event. The majority will be single men for what ever the reason that may be. Hence why i asked the men to express an interest in a reserve list. I have provided an opportunity for new people it is stated clearly. Having been in that position myself. Contrary to your understanding I have stated the rules will be the same for couples and single females if there are too many for the venue to cope with. I understand your experience is based on your time on the mainland and reveals how naive your understanding of Ireland is. Having experienced many cultures across many continents, there a few places on the planet like Ireland, more specifically Belfast. It is a small city where everyone thinks they know everyone else and still suffers from draconian religious oppression similar to a pre 1960s mainland, added to that, the political landscape continues to shape our social existence. Finding a venue that is discrete, tolerant and politically neutral was damn near impossible and only by the stroke of fortune. In this environment by far the most important for the attendees is the safeguarding of their privacy as the risks are far too great. Experienced organisers in Ireland have had to deal with undercover news reporters, inconsiderate, stupid and aggressive attendees. Hence the desire to limit, in order to manage the risk, invitations to people unknown. The difficulty of transcending from newbie to verified, is well documented and discussed on Fab and everyone can easily do some HOMEWORK to figure out the process and accept their situation and work patiently towards changing their circumstances. Rather than make unsubstantiated assumptions. I thank the people that openly supported me for my approach. But with respect to them i get the most satisfaction and confidence from the 99% of the single males on the list that obviously read my rules properly, followed instruction and basically just got on with it. To them i wish the best of luck in the draw and if all works well I can organise another, the unlucky ones this time will be in my thoughts at that time. Jaz Keep swinging xx | |||
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"bugger as usual i see things too late ahh well have to wait to next one as im sure this well booked up now " Keep your eyes open Blash | |||
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"Hi Folks The draw was made today. The lucky ones will receive an invite by email by Monday. The unlucky ones please express an interest if you wish to be kept on the reserve list. Please do not feel too disheartened, this looks to be a good night and i will run more for the unlucky ones this time. Further details about the party will be sent by email. Jaz xx" | |||
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" As Peter Griffin would say: "While I may not agree with what you say, I shall defend to the death your right to say it!"" Peter Griffin?! Try Voltaire... | |||
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"Again trixie, I feel you have misunderstood me. I think it's best to leave it there. I hope you all have a great time at the party. I don't expect an invite due to your closeness to Jaz and your obvious dislike to what I have said. Probably also now a dislike to me too. That saddens me. " and where are ewe now!!!! | |||
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"Am I allowed to wear my hat at this get together , its a fucking beauty" Of course, I look forward to see it Jaz | |||
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"Well how did it go , was everyone well behaved" In short Willy no!! (heeheheheeeheehehehe) | |||
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"We might not be down til around 10-ish tomorrow, hoping it will be in full swing by then!" Sounds like it was well swinging, so jealous of you free swinging types! | |||
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