FabSwingers.com forum: AI and the future of jobs

By *asual777 OP Man
3 days ago

i travel all over

Is it as simple as nurses and plasterers will be ok and programmers won’t be ?

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By *ou_knocked22Man
3 days ago

Dublin / Galway / Limerick

You will still need higher levels at each job type being human in the loop. Sadly you become good at a thing but starting off doing the easy things.

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By *ivorced123Man
3 days ago

port

"Is it as simple as nurses and plasterers will be ok and programmers won’t be ? "

I don’t think so, jobs that are highly repetitive irrespective of sector are at risk, conveyancing in the legal world, to education, healthcare etc etc

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By *enerationfornicationMan
3 days ago

not far from

AI isnt going go take your job. The pwrson that programmes AI will.

This isnt a new concept. We have been livimg with the dev adound AI for 20+ years.

Think self service check out, they're great when you want to get rid of stacks of small change or cant be bothered makong small talk at a normal check out... but the reality is, most supermarkets have min 6 and only need 1 person to monitor so in theory, that's 5 jobs gone.

Stock taking is all barcoded. Reordering sysyems monitor the sales and reoder items as req.

The biggest problem with AI is, its only as good as the inputs that the user puts in. If you want an "agreeable programme" then it will tell you what you want to hear. (I had this issue with a colleague recently who was adamant they were right in an issue simply because their "paid version" of chat GPT scanned for the right answer so it definitely had to be right. Sadly, my real world solution burst that AI thought for the individual)

The biggest problem, i do see is 1) the basic levels of literacy will decline further,

2) we will all end up using Americanised spelling rules,

3) insurance premiums will increase (becauase your AI will have all your medical data so no mlre fibbing)

4) tech jobs (which pay well and are already dodgy) will go

5) we will pay more in electricity charges to fund the AI data centres.

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By *ookAndDorkCouple
3 days ago

The West

Now that the US government has taken control of what the AI companies are allowed to release to non preferred companies and non US nations the roadmap that laid out the doomsday scenario for mass unemployment has been interrupted so it'll be interesting to see that happens next.

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By *enerationfornicationMan
3 days ago

not far from

"Now that the US government has taken control of what the AI companies are allowed to release to non preferred companies and non US nations the roadmap that laid out the doomsday scenario for mass unemployment has been interrupted so it'll be interesting to see that happens next. "

The EU needs to get its house in order and not sit back twiddling its thumbs.

US military power isnt as good as it thought it was. Iran has shown that.

The majority of tech is manufactured in China. Currently tbe EU us trying to limit Chinese electrial items / EVs into the EU because they have a "kill switch built in" (not a new concept)

Majority of companies inside EU/EU institutions/state gov. use Microsoft - what happens if this is "limited / switched off"?

The EU/US relationship is in tatters with the man-child in charge...

Interesting times a head 🤔

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
3 days ago

Westmeath The West.

In the immediate future I see jobs in Tech, Accounting, Finance and Law all taking a hit.

Any work that requires he use repetitive computer based software will be gone.

I think general labour and trades will be safe for a very long time.

AI ain't digging that foundation, pouring that concrete, laying those pipes!

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By *railblazer 7Man
3 days ago

Galway

Trades will be safe enough . Not many robots going to be taking out toilets or renovating bathroom with rotted timber floors or crawling around attic rewiring houses. We are safe for another 15 years id say 😆😆

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By *ookAndDorkCouple
3 days ago

The West

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord's.

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By *ootinmanMan
2 days ago

derry

its been vastly over estimated. for example ford got rid of a lot of engineers and replaced with ai and suddenly ended up with a series of expensive recalls and had to rehire the vast majority of then.

ai is a pretty expensive way of doing a lot of jobs and needs expert oversight.

its being pushed heavily because the chip companies and a lot of tech companies has spent heavily on it and cant afford it to fail.

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By *ischief2020Man
2 days ago

Border Town

"In the immediate future I see jobs in Tech, Accounting, Finance and Law all taking a hit.

Any work that requires he use repetitive computer based software will be gone.

I think general labour and trades will be safe for a very long time.

AI ain't digging that foundation, pouring that concrete, laying those pipes!"

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By *ischief2020Man
2 days ago

Border Town

"In the immediate future I see jobs in Tech, Accounting, Finance and Law all taking a hit.

Any work that requires he use repetitive computer based software will be gone.

I think general labour and trades will be safe for a very long time.

AI ain't digging that foundation, pouring that concrete, laying those pipes!"

The problem with computer software is who is going to know how to fix the errors? Tech bros already using AI to write code are having to write new code to patch the errors making a very messy and unstable coding system. It will eventually fail and have to be rewritten.

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By *asual777 OP Man
2 days ago

i travel all over

Some very helpful and insightful comments

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
2 days ago

Lucan

I remember years ago being told that computers would replace all except physical labourers within twenty years. Then a few years later, we were told that robots would take the place of labourers. Now it's AI that's going to replace everyone.

With each technological advance, labour has indeed been replaced to an extent, but those labourers are now just doing something different. New opportunities have arisen alongside the advances.

I often wonder if AI may eventually be limited by the availability of data centres that will always need to be bigger and bigger, and are already causing tensions in some places?

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By *uriousVoyeurMan
2 days ago

Northside

For me working in the construction industry,I can see AI having a massive negative impact on the sector... especially in extensions and refits/redecs. While AI won't do these jobs,if the people I work for lose their jobs because of AI then they won't be spending their money on home improvements! That means I'm out of work. One of my clients retired recently and was the head of finance for a huge international retailer. They had 300 staff in one regional division and started using Claude AI and now have 25 staff. That's 275 people unemployed in 1 division of 1 company!! It's really scary if it continues like that!!

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By *ookAndDorkCouple
2 days ago

The West

"I remember years ago being told that computers would replace all except physical labourers within twenty years. Then a few years later, we were told that robots would take the place of labourers. Now it's AI that's going to replace everyone.

With each technological advance, labour has indeed been replaced to an extent, but those labourers are now just doing something different. New opportunities have arisen alongside the advances.

I often wonder if AI may eventually be limited by the availability of data centres that will always need to be bigger and bigger, and are already causing tensions in some places? "

The compute bottleneck only holds in the current paradigm but it is true right now. The big companies are literally waiting for more compute to come online before they can scale further.

It will take a major breakthrough in the way AI's work to move past that but it will happen.

That said, I don't think they have hit the wall yet.

There's some great sci-fi out there with theories about all available matter in the universe getting turned into computronium eventually.

Or maybe it already has and we actually are the programs 🤣

To be honest I'm more worried about what happens when new tech oligarch class and the likes of the heritage foundation are in possession of superintelligent AI's

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
2 days ago

East / North, Cork

I'm less worried that all the jobs will disappear, I'm more worried that we will become the ones who do the jobs that the AIs can't do. We will take our orders from them with straightforward lists of the things they need physical bodies to complete. We will be the physical hands and eyes of the superintelligence who will outsource these jobs to the humans who will become like task driven worker bees. Like our Google accounts and our appleids, it will appear so helpful that we give it all our accumulated experience and knowledge, and it will use this to grow far beyond our capabilities. All our knowledge is out there online and available for the taking for the first superintelligent AI to accumulate.

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By *traightmaryWoman
2 days ago

cork

"I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord's."

Here here . Infact ALOT of robot tools are far better than the ones I find on fab . Always get the job done and timely

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
2 days ago

Westmeath The West.

But if AI takes all the jobs, then who or what will it be producing or working for if humans are unemployed and broke?

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By *ackAgain226Man
2 days ago

Sligo/Dublin

It depends.

I work in B2B sales and attended a convention a little while back. They said most jobs, where there is trust should be okay. You need that human connection. However, it will drive more Face2Face sales.

AI, especially individual models will need to be regulated and there will need to be someone responsible. I use it each day and even now it makes lots of mistakes

We worried about industrialisation too, and how it would affect farming etc in the 18th century, but people adapted. I think most people will be okay, however it will require some upskilling.

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