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"I would imagine coercion is a lot more common than we realize, and yet we see many threads on here we the opening line "How do I persuade my wife/partner to..."🤔 my answer is if you feel you need to persuade them,then their honest answer would probably be no!" 100% | |||
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"I would imagine coercion is a lot more common than we realize, and yet we see many threads on here we the opening line "How do I persuade my wife/partner to..."🤔 my answer is if you feel you need to persuade them,then their honest answer would probably be no!" You said it... | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. " As a man these post give me the absolute ick, they make me feel very uncomfortable. | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. " Do we need a clearer opinion of Hotwife and Cuckhold | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out " This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent" Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile" Or visa versa... or group shots on couples profiles with no way to verify who is in the photo or if anyone has consented | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. " Yes but the lady in question arranged some of the meets herself and admitted to appearing to be very enthusiastic about the encounters as a way of getting them over as quickly as possible. | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile" Definitely no man or woman should have another person in their pictures unless they're a member here and verified by them. Pictures should be tagged and approved by the other person before being approved by the site. Same goes for couples, should have to confirm it is both of them in photos, may not be water tight, but something at least! | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. Yes but the lady in question arranged some of the meets herself and admitted to appearing to be very enthusiastic about the encounters as a way of getting them over as quickly as possible." It's a minefield, it's difficult for someone to spot, especially if the person seems to be enthusiastic. It is also a kink with some people for their partner to organise for them. But quick, random meets leave people wide open to this! | |||
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"What I found the most appalling part of the article was the man who went ahead with sex with the woman he felt was being coerced. Jesus christ, any normal person with a hint of decency about them would've walked away at that point. Policing the site to prevent the case disussed in the article would be well nigh impossible, given that she gave the impression of consenting, and appeared enthusiastic by arranging meets herself. However, you'd have hoped that if a man got a "bad vibe" that he'd call the meet off? "I found that quite rough to read as well. If you see fear in a womans' eyes and still go ahead | |||
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"What I found the most appalling part of the article was the man who went ahead with sex with the woman he felt was being coerced. Jesus christ, any normal person with a hint of decency about them would've walked away at that point. Policing the site to prevent the case disussed in the article would be well nigh impossible, given that she gave the impression of consenting, and appeared enthusiastic by arranging meets herself. However, you'd have hoped that if a man got a "bad vibe" that he'd call the meet off? "The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile" There’s a lot of female profiles on here that post pics of them having sex and giving oral to men and no username attached of who the man is. Good for the goose, good for the gander as the saying goes, so both male and female profiles should be stopped. | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile There’s a lot of female profiles on here that post pics of them having sex and giving oral to men and no username attached of who the man is. Good for the goose, good for the gander as the saying goes, so both male and female profiles should be stopped." I agree!! | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile There’s a lot of female profiles on here that post pics of them having sex and giving oral to men and no username attached of who the man is. Good for the goose, good for the gander as the saying goes, so both male and female profiles should be stopped. I agree!!" I concur with your agreement 😃 | |||
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" The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual" I'm not sure it says that at all, and I'd suggest that time coverage it received suggests that it is indeed quite unusual. It says that it happens, but says nothing about how common or uncommon it might be. I think we'd need to see quite a few more of those cases to say that it's not unusual. | |||
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" The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual I'm not sure it says that at all, and I'd suggest that time coverage it received suggests that it is indeed quite unusual. It says that it happens, but says nothing about how common or uncommon it might be. I think we'd need to see quite a few more of those cases to say that it's not unusual. " The number of men involved plus the number found to be on sites looking for and partaking in this SA would suggest it’s not unusual. Plus the recent uncovering of another similar site active in the UK. And they’re just the ones that have been exposed. Every fucking day there’s some guy on here wanting to share pics of his partner, talk about other “single” men’s partners or arrange for a guy to come flirt with and try shag his partner. | |||
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" The number of men involved plus the number found to be on sites looking for and partaking in this SA would suggest it’s not unusual. Plus the recent uncovering of another similar site active in the UK. And they’re just the ones that have been exposed. Every fucking day there’s some guy on here wanting to share pics of his partner, talk about other “single” men’s partners or arrange for a guy to come flirt with and try shag his partner. " As said above, it needs to be called out way more. People should be reporting those threads every time they appear. | |||
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" The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual I'm not sure it says that at all, and I'd suggest that the coverage it received suggests that it is indeed quite unusual. It says that it happens, but says nothing about how common or uncommon it might be. I think we'd need to see quite a few more of those cases to say that it's not unusual. The number of men involved plus the number found to be on sites looking for and partaking in this would suggest it’s not unusual. Plus the recent uncovering of another similar site active in the UK. And they’re just the ones that have been exposed. Every fucking day there’s some guy on here wanting to share pics of his partner, talk about other “single” men’s partners or arrange for a guy to come flirt with and try shag his partner. " There's a world of space between men wanking on the phone listening to other men talking about their wives, which in many cases won't even exist, and men "abusing" women. Even allowing for these cases plus presumably another few that haven't been reported, it's still unusual. 50 men were involved in the Pelicot case. If you allow for there possibly having been even four times that many, that's 200 men out of a French male population of about 35 million. That, by definition, makes it remarkably unusual. Now, as I said above, it clearly happens, and probably more times than we know about, but it's still unusual enough to generate mass coverage when it does happen, which it wouldn't if it was commonplace. | |||
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" The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual I'm not sure it says that at all, and I'd suggest that the coverage it received suggests that it is indeed quite unusual. It says that it happens, but says nothing about how common or uncommon it might be. I think we'd need to see quite a few more of those cases to say that it's not unusual. The number of men involved plus the number found to be on sites looking for and partaking in this would suggest it’s not unusual. Plus the recent uncovering of another similar site active in the UK. And they’re just the ones that have been exposed. Every fucking day there’s some guy on here wanting to share pics of his partner, talk about other “single” men’s partners or arrange for a guy to come flirt with and try shag his partner. There's a world of space between men wanking on the phone listening to other men talking about their wives, which in many cases won't even exist, and men "abusing" women. Even allowing for these cases plus presumably another few that haven't been reported, it's still unusual. 50 men were involved in the Pelicot case. If you allow for there possibly having been even four times that many, that's 200 men out of a French male population of about 35 million. That, by definition, makes it remarkably unusual. Now, as I said above, it clearly happens, and probably more times than we know about, but it's still unusual enough to generate mass coverage when it does happen, which it wouldn't if it was commonplace. " Unsure why abusing is in “”? There isn’t a world of space between the 2. It’s where abusers start and where it gets normalised for them. Bizarre to me that you’re doubling down on this to be honest. It’s very clear that some men love to ignore consent on here and off here as well. Just because it’s not talked about every day doesn’t mean it’s not happening every day. | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent" To clarify....for people mentioning certain threads on the forum...pic swop threads have never been allowed as this post from years ago confirms. In fact since then threads started about wife chat have been removed also as they normally lead to pic swopping. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/stories/1063560#last Asking how to get into swinging is not against rules. Asking to arrange meets were the other person is not aware is not allowed. Asking for / talking in details about rough sex etc even if roleplay is not allowed. Pictures were people don't look aware or asleep have never been allowed. You can help the site by reporting anything that has been missed by a Mod/ Admin and it will be sorted. Admin have lots of tools in place to deal with anything untoward (even if at times people complain about what actions they take, think word / mail blocks which are used and complained about a lot on here ) | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. " YUP. And I hope the other men on here are reporting any shared intimate partner images as a crime. | |||
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" The Pelicot case would strongly suggest that it’s not unusual I'm not sure it says that at all, and I'd suggest that the coverage it received suggests that it is indeed quite unusual. It says that it happens, but says nothing about how common or uncommon it might be. I think we'd need to see quite a few more of those cases to say that it's not unusual. The number of men involved plus the number found to be on sites looking for and partaking in this would suggest it’s not unusual. Plus the recent uncovering of another similar site active in the UK. And they’re just the ones that have been exposed. Every fucking day there’s some guy on here wanting to share pics of his partner, talk about other “single” men’s partners or arrange for a guy to come flirt with and try shag his partner. There's a world of space between men wanking on the phone listening to other men talking about their wives, which in many cases won't even exist, and men "abusing" women. Even allowing for these cases plus presumably another few that haven't been reported, it's still unusual. 50 men were involved in the Pelicot case. If you allow for there possibly having been even four times that many, that's 200 men out of a French male population of about 35 million. That, by definition, makes it remarkably unusual. Now, as I said above, it clearly happens, and probably more times than we know about, but it's still unusual enough to generate mass coverage when it does happen, which it wouldn't if it was commonplace. Unsure why abusing is in “”? There isn’t a world of space between the 2. It’s where abusers start and where it gets normalised for them. Bizarre to me that you’re doubling down on this to be honest. It’s very clear that some men love to ignore consent on here and off here as well. Just because it’s not talked about every day doesn’t mean it’s not happening every day. " It's fairly obvious that it's in "" as its not the word I wanted to use, but fab doesn't allow a particular word starting with r. I thought I had used it up above but it's not getting past the censor now. | |||
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" Bizarre to me that you’re doubling down on this to be honest. It’s very clear that some men love to ignore consent on here and off here as well. Just because it’s not talked about every day doesn’t mean it’s not happening every day. " I'm not sure what you're having difficulty with tbh. Something that isn't the norm is unusual. The above situation is not the norm. Yes, I've now said it three times that it clearly happens but the vast majority of people on this site, and I'm the outside world, have not experienced it. By definition, that makes it unusual. Carry on saying it's commonplace though if that gives you comfort. | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent To clarify....for people mentioning certain threads on the forum...pic swop threads have never been allowed as this post from years ago confirms. In fact since then threads started about wife chat have been removed also as they normally lead to pic swopping. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/stories/1063560#last Asking how to get into swinging is not against rules. Asking to arrange meets were the other person is not aware is not allowed. Asking for / talking in details about rough sex etc even if roleplay is not allowed. Pictures were people don't look aware or asleep have never been allowed. You can help the site by reporting anything that has been missed by a Mod/ Admin and it will be sorted. Admin have lots of tools in place to deal with anything untoward (even if at times people complain about what actions they take, think word / mail blocks which are used and complained about a lot on here ) " I understand that tools are said to be in place but I, and multiple other people, have reported these types of threads countless times and nothing has been done about them 🤷🏻♀️ | |||
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"Let it be a warning to all the men who respond to posts looking for someone to talk about/fuck their partners when their partners are not on site. Enthusiastic consent is key. Don't think there is any doubt about enthusiastic consent on our vids  "You understand this is a thread about a woman who feels she was coerced in to sexual activity and sexually assaulted and emotionally abused right? | |||
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" It's naive of me to think that every single guy on here would "read the room" and if something was off, leave the situation and report it. What can Fab do? " It's probably better to report it to the authorities. Even if nothing seems to come of it, establishing a pattern of behaviour is an important part of documenting and proving systematic abuse. Anyone who's done safeguarding training is taught this but I feel like it's one of those things that could better integrated into our culture. | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent To clarify....for people mentioning certain threads on the forum...pic swop threads have never been allowed as this post from years ago confirms. In fact since then threads started about wife chat have been removed also as they normally lead to pic swopping. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/stories/1063560#last Asking how to get into swinging is not against rules. Asking to arrange meets were the other person is not aware is not allowed. Asking for / talking in details about rough sex etc even if roleplay is not allowed. Pictures were people don't look aware or asleep have never been allowed. You can help the site by reporting anything that has been missed by a Mod/ Admin and it will be sorted. Admin have lots of tools in place to deal with anything untoward (even if at times people complain about what actions they take, think word / mail blocks which are used and complained about a lot on here ) " Perhaps the forum rules post needs an update with some of this stuff as it's not all there already. I think there does need to be some kind of response to reported posts created also, as the perception is that clear rule violations are sometimes ignored and this doesn't give users a nice feeling of safety and that we are being minded here on the forums. I know it's hard and mods are volunteers and not paid professionals but if this is happening consistently then perhaps the system needs another look given how busy things are now and how many people are looking from outside the community. | |||
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"To be fair I think Admin rely on people using common sense and reading all rules including T&C's ( which these subjects come under if posted without permission ) If someone keeps posting the same thing that isn't allowed they would be banned on a perm anyway. " Sometimes, you just can’t tell people no matter where you post the rules or even tell them. I do think the site is fair, take action swiftly and the Moderators do a good job too, on a voluntary basis too. Some simps are just simps and always will be 😃 | |||
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"To be fair I think Admin rely on people using common sense and reading all rules including T&C's ( which these subjects come under if posted without permission ) If someone keeps posting the same thing that isn't allowed they would be banned on a perm anyway. " I think its clear that relying on people to use common sense isn't a sensible tactic. Online spaces are requiring more and more regulation. Or take the other approach of regulating nothing and become the cesspit x now is | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent Not to mention not allowing pictures of women on a male profile" | |||
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"To be fair I think Admin rely on people using common sense and reading all rules including T&C's ( which these subjects come under if posted without permission ) If someone keeps posting the same thing that isn't allowed they would be banned on a perm anyway. I think its clear that relying on people to use common sense isn't a sensible tactic. " Expecting adults to use common sense to read rules of the site? | |||
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"To be fair I think Admin rely on people using common sense and reading all rules including T&C's ( which these subjects come under if posted without permission ) If someone keeps posting the same thing that isn't allowed they would be banned on a perm anyway. I think its clear that relying on people to use common sense isn't a sensible tactic. Expecting adults to use common sense to read rules of the site? " Hoping for it is great. Relying on it is troublesome. As is relying on a small team of volunteers for a site this size with outdated tools. Stories like this will become more common and if I was a Moderator Id be screaming for more protection for myself nevermind for people on the site | |||
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"Also the threads asking to swap pictures of their wife's and girlfriends...call them out This is where fab could actually implement change and show some real intention of setting a culture of consent To clarify....for people mentioning certain threads on the forum...pic swop threads have never been allowed as this post from years ago confirms. In fact since then threads started about wife chat have been removed also as they normally lead to pic swopping. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/stories/1063560#last Asking how to get into swinging is not against rules. Asking to arrange meets were the other person is not aware is not allowed. Asking for / talking in details about rough sex etc even if roleplay is not allowed. Pictures were people don't look aware or asleep have never been allowed. You can help the site by reporting anything that has been missed by a Mod/ Admin and it will be sorted. Admin have lots of tools in place to deal with anything untoward (even if at times people complain about what actions they take, think word / mail blocks which are used and complained about a lot on here ) I understand that tools are said to be in place but I, and multiple other people, have reported these types of threads countless times and nothing has been done about them 🤷🏻♀️" Agreed | |||
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"To be fair I think Admin rely on people using common sense and reading all rules including T&C's ( which these subjects come under if posted without permission ) If someone keeps posting the same thing that isn't allowed they would be banned on a perm anyway. I think its clear that relying on people to use common sense isn't a sensible tactic. Expecting adults to use common sense to read rules of the site? Hoping for it is great. Relying on it is troublesome. As is relying on a small team of volunteers for a site this size with outdated tools. Stories like this will become more common and if I was a Moderator Id be screaming for more protection for myself nevermind for people on the site" A Mod moderating the forum would have nothing to do with someone saying they were coerced by their husband to swing. Most people know there are rules on any site you go onto....no one can force anyone to read them but any site would expect them to adhere to them, if not then there are normally consequences. I am unsure what your comment about "outdated tools" is about or how you would know what tools any Admin or Mod has but lets get back to the OP now please. | |||
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"What I found the most appalling part of the article was the man who went ahead with sex with the woman he felt was being coerced. Jesus christ, any normal person with a hint of decency about them would've walked away at that point. Policing the site to prevent the case disussed in the article would be well nigh impossible, given that she gave the impression of consenting, and appeared enthusiastic by arranging meets herself. However, you'd have hoped that if a man got a "bad vibe" that he'd call the meet off? "I think you'll find that the majority of women have a story were they were being pressured to have sex and they went along with it cause it was easier than trying to get out of the situation. It's not uncommon at all | |||
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"I would imagine coercion is a lot more common than we realize, and yet we see many threads on here we the opening line "How do I persuade my wife/partner to..."🤔 my answer is if you feel you need to persuade them,then their honest answer would probably be no!" Very true... | |||
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"How 100 ?? And how it has become so hard even getting 1 in a month " It's trivially easy for a girl or couple to do that if they don't care who they are meeting. Someone under coercion is working with his low low standards and so I can absolutely see this is doable. | |||
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"How 100 ?? And how it has become so hard even getting 1 in a month It's trivially easy for a girl or couple to do that if they don't care who they are meeting. Someone under coercion is working with his low low standards and so I can absolutely see this is doable." 100% agree. If a girl wants to meet a different guy every night it will happen. Her whole situation is so sad, especially the part about her breakdown and he becoming her carer. Then persuading/forcing her, sick individual | |||
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"Genuinely dont think the site could do anything about this situation at all Its down to her husband and any man that thought something was wrong but went ahead anyway " Got to agree. In this instance the site couldn't have done much. Once someone appears to be doing stuff of their own free will then how do you police that? I think the main thing for members to take away is an awareness that this happens, and that they need to trust their gut and look for the signs. I've definitely been in front of a couple where I was sure one was very much more into this than the other, and it was a no from me. Others would have over excitedly heard the yes and gone through with it. If it smells "off" then don't let the hornyness take over and trust the instinct. | |||
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"This is an abuse story not a swingers site story. Poor woman. I really hate it when a profile posts pics of other people and we have no idea if the other people consented to having that photo published. Really they should have a tagging system. But there are a few people who put in the extra effort of editing the pics with usernames. That's such a hassle to do and great when it's done. Vics" I've seen a few profiles here with usernames of people that I know for a fact are no longer on fab and in some cases haven't been here for years. Where is the cut off point for consent? There is no way of knowing if those people have given consent for their pics to be used years after leaving the site. I know it's probably not something that happens often but having other profile names on pics isn't infallible. | |||
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"What I found the most appalling part of the article was the man who went ahead with sex with the woman he felt was being coerced. Jesus christ, any normal person with a hint of decency about them would've walked away at that point. Policing the site to prevent the case disussed in the article would be well nigh impossible, given that she gave the impression of consenting, and appeared enthusiastic by arranging meets herself. However, you'd have hoped that if a man got a "bad vibe" that he'd call the meet off?
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"The article makes for horrific reading. Unfortunately I don't think there's much that this site can do to futureproof itself. People will always find a way around what ever sort of protocols are set up by this site or any other site. Even yesterday I had a guy message me who wanted to share pics of his wife and show me her used panties. Go figure!!!" Can you report that please Thanks | |||
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"The article makes for horrific reading. Unfortunately I don't think there's much that this site can do to futureproof itself. People will always find a way around what ever sort of protocols are set up by this site or any other site. Even yesterday I had a guy message me who wanted to share pics of his wife and show me her used panties. Go figure!!!" that's a regular occurrence I just swiftly block. | |||
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" Do we think Fabs could do more, we personally think they could. They are the largest online site and have a unique opportunity help change things for the better." For curiosity, what do you think they should do more of? | |||
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"The article makes for horrific reading. Unfortunately I don't think there's much that this site can do to futureproof itself. People will always find a way around what ever sort of protocols are set up by this site or any other site. Even yesterday I had a guy message me who wanted to share pics of his wife and show me her used panties. Go figure!!! that's a regular occurrence I just swiftly block." Please also report. These sort of people shouldn't feel comfortable on here, or that it's a place for them! | |||
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" Do we think Fabs could do more, we personally think they could. They are the largest online site and have a unique opportunity help change things for the better. For curiosity, what do you think they should do more of?" Is it possible that new threads could be looked at by mods before they get posted? As it stands, anyone can put up pretty much anything in real time. People might feel it's an inconvenience to have to wait but genuine people will understand the reasoning for having to wait a while. Once people get used to the concept it'll be fine. | |||
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" Do we think Fabs could do more, we personally think they could. They are the largest online site and have a unique opportunity help change things for the better. For curiosity, what do you think they should do more of? Is it possible that new threads could be looked at by mods before they get posted? As it stands, anyone can put up pretty much anything in real time. People might feel it's an inconvenience to have to wait but genuine people will understand the reasoning for having to wait a while. Once people get used to the concept it'll be fine. " There is no option to do that to be honest but I will pass it onto Admin for you. Even genuine people get impatient to be fair so it wouldn't please everyone and There are other tools that come into play once threads or posts are reported that get rid of them quicker if no Mod is around. I know I sound like a broken record but if people report any threads that are not suited to the site they are normally taken down and all of us are helping the site by doing this. Depending on the subject people will be banned from the forum (or disabled if needed ) If the person gets a ban from posting and keeps doing it they are normally banned from posting for good. If anyone finds a thread still lingering after giving time for someone to deal with, no harm in reporting again  | |||
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" Yes I do think the majority are genuine but it depends on your definition? I'm not a swinger and never have been and many others who use these forums would say the same but that doesn't make us any less genuine than those who claim to be. I've been here more than 10 years and never been stood up once or catfished or chatted to a fake profile. If there were really so many as some say the law of averages would state that I should have bumped into a few at this stage but the fact is I haven't. There are fake profiles and people here for nefarious reasons but they definitely aren't in the majority. " I think its the amount gawkers, blank accounts, fantasists and fakes that annoy people. A simple start for the site would be to have a lot tighter restrictions on those that are not both photo verified and members and a certain level of profile completion. Access should be profile views only, with no access to photos or vids. No messaging No forum posts It won't solve everything, but would give the place a considerable clean up. A lot of people just feel the place is gone a little messy! | |||
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"It makes you wonder, how many men and other women in couples are just participating for the sake of their partner. The lady was very brave and I applaud her. Every person involved in fab should be consenting and no means no, if it doesn’t feel right then it’s not right " Of course that IS how it should be. The nightmare for regular everyday non-abusers here is how do you know the person is being abused like this when they are meeting alone and seem to be consenting and saying yes. | |||
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"The ex is definitely a dick, no question. He showed little regard for her and repeatedly failed to protect and respect her decisions, her body, and her well being. She was not taking responsibility for her own role initially saying yes and failing to set boundaries. Instead, she's blaming the site. Credit where it's due, she eventually drew a line and got out." The ex isn't just a dick - he's a criminal, a sex offender, and an abuser. As for your comment "she was not taking responsibility " jesus fucking Christ - she was coerced and abused and manipulated! That's a heavily victim blaming response which feeds directly into the very culture they're calling out. That's a really problematic post man, I encourage you to use your empathy here. She's a victim, she had no responsibility for her abuse at all. The fault lies entirely with her husband and the men who ignored the signs / didn't get full embodied consent. And failing to set boundaries? Do you understand how coercive abuse works?? You've heard of the fawn response right? | |||
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