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"To sex in Ireland? Swinging sex, no strings etc. do you think Ireland has a backwards downgrading view on it by a lot of people ?" There is still a taboo element to an extent, but it has been slowly eroded over the last 30 years... The obvious recipient of blame for this is the hold the Church had over the country for so long. Now that hold has almost disappeared, people are less afraid to express themselves in terms of their sexuality and embrace sex in a positive way. We've come a long way, but there are still some hurdles and barriers to be broken down. | |||
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"There is even a lot out there and you mention no strings sex and it’s like your suggesting something dirty etc. a lot have a negative mentality towords it." The stuff we are told when we are young sticks. The best we can do is stop it in it's tracks now and not let it be passed on | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record" The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up! | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!" Thank of all those poor young lads who went blind | |||
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" Thank of all those poor young lads who went blind" That's not true, I checked! | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record" Have to agree A quick search on the history of Sexual Repression gave me the below answer The history of sexual repression since 500 BC is a complex shift from the communal, philosophical sexualities of the ancient world to the rigid moral controls of the Middle Ages, culminating in the hyper-regulated Victorian era, before the global push for liberation. Ancient Foundations & The Rise of Moral Codes (500 BC – 500 AD)Ancient Greece & Rome: While often viewed as sexually open, ancient societies were highly stratified. Sex was largely acceptable if it reinforced social hierarchies. Homosexuality and pederasty were socially acceptable within strict cultural rules. However, strict taboos were placed on women's sexuality, heavily enforced by laws demanding marital fidelity to guarantee male lineage. Early Christianity: As the Roman Empire transitioned to the medieval era, the body and sexual desire became viewed as a source of sin. Theologians like St. Augustine shifted the paradigm: sex was exclusively for procreation within marriage, and any sexual act devoid of reproductive intent was considered inherently sinful. The Middle Ages & Early Modern Era (500 AD – 1700 AD)Narrow Norms: Medieval attitudes toward sexuality were incredibly restrictive. The Church dictated strict rules on acceptable times, positions, and days for sex (prohibiting sex during menstruation, feast days, and pregnancies).Witch Hunts & Reformation: Beginning in the 16th century, sexual repression became a massive driving force in Western societal development. The Counter-Reformation and Protestant movements enforced strict marital fidelity. Sexual "deviance" (homosexuality, non-procreative acts, and adultery) was heavily penalized and often framed as a threat to societal and moral order. The Victorian Climax (18th – 19th Century)The "Repressive Hypothesis": Historian Michel Foucault coined this term to describe the societal shifts of the 18th and 19th centuries. With the rise of the bourgeois order and industrial capitalism, sexuality was moved entirely out of public view and confined to the marital bedroom for the sole purpose of procreation and producing future labor.Prudery and Silence: Sex became utilitarian, hidden, and surrounded by intense shame. Public health and medical establishments were used to pathologize any non-heteronormative sexual desires, branding them as mental illnesses or physical defects. Global Modernity & The Sexual Revolution (20th – 21st Century)The Turning Point: The mid-20th century, specifically the 1960s, marked the beginning of a major cultural shift where Western society broke free from Victorian constraints. The invention of hormonal contraception (the pill) permanently divorced sexual activity from procreation, allowing for a broader celebration of sexual pleasure. | |||
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" Thank of all those poor young lads who went blind That's not true, I checked!" Does glasses count? | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!" I agree. Wasn't that long ago. You look at the different attitudes between Ireland and across the water. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record" The reason the church takes the hit is because of what priests did right up into the 90's and probably beyond that They fully deserve everything they get with dwindling congregations and eventually an elderly population of priests that die off Nobody is replacing them or the elderly parishioners so eventually it will die off or change They'll have to change or they'll have no one to control the money | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record Have to agree A quick search on the history of Sexual Repression gave me the below answer (Snip)" What a bizarre post. You are agreeing it's time to change the record on blaming religion, and then go on to post a summary of how religion made sex shameful  | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record Have to agree A quick search on the history of Sexual Repression gave me the below answer (Snip) What a bizarre post. You are agreeing it's time to change the record on blaming religion, and then go on to post a summary of how religion made sex shameful "Not Religion, Evolution of Historical facts, Not the church as you referred to  | |||
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"Do all religions not promote sex as outside of marriage as shameless or at least they all used to. In the late 90s local Church of Ireland refused to babtise my friends baby as she was a teenager single mum ,though in a relationship with the father." Unfortunately this was pretty common and in many cases is still the norm. The religions didn't change, it's just that most people stopped believing that what they preach is the truth. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record Have to agree A quick search on the history of Sexual Repression gave me the below answer (Snip) What a bizarre post. You are agreeing it's time to change the record on blaming religion, and then go on to post a summary of how religion made sex shameful
Not Religion, Evolution of Historical facts, Not the church as you referred to "Is that kind of like Alternative Facts? That was popular in 2017 | |||
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"Definitely feel its ole Catholic Ireland is the reason why swinging is still taboo in this country. Id love to sit down have a chat with my friends over it all but there's always the fear of being judged, us being judged for something we enjoy wouldn't sit well with me at the same time, so with that its best to stay silent on it all." If my friends judged I wouldn't be due to any residual Catholic guilt it would be more so that they likely consider it a form of cheating and most cples have that jealousy which doesn't come from a spiritual place | |||
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"The church is to blame for people who are over 50 attitude to sex. Anyone my age i know couldn't give one shite what the church says. Thanks dev for handing it over to them. Plenty people my age and younger see swinging and partner swapping as taboo and it has nothing to do with the church" While I agree that younger people often don't have a direct relationship with the judgement of the church, they are still effected by it. It takes a long time for the whole society to change it's attitude. It matters how we were raised by our parents and their beliefs. It matters what authority our schools teach us under. Many times those teachings are rooted in religious belief systems and still do effect young people. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!"
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish"You never taught anything about sex outside marriage being a sin? You never heard anything negative about contraception? You never heard anything about same sex relations being wrong? I'm finding this all quite hard to believe as these are core social principles of the Catholic church. The last mother and baby home closed in 1998. The last magdaline laundry closed in 1996. This isnt ancient history. Brushing this stuff under the carpet and pretending this didn't fuck up our attitudes to sex is burying your head in th sand. You STILL hear Catholic lobby groups pressuring for the right to teach sex education asserting that sexual intimacy belongs exclusively within heterosexual, sacramental marriage. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish". And don't even get me started on the claim that there is some kind of moral authority gained from these groups. Come back when the Catholic orders have paid the abuse reparation money still not paid to abuse victims. They are morally disgusting. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish
You never taught anything about sex outside marriage being a sin? You never heard anything negative about contraception? You never heard anything about same sex relations being wrong? I'm finding this all quite hard to believe as these are core social principles of the Catholic church.
The last mother and baby home closed in 1998. The last magdaline laundry closed in 1996. This isnt ancient history. Brushing this stuff under the carpet and pretending this didn't fuck up our attitudes to sex is burying your head in th sand. You STILL hear Catholic lobby groups pressuring for the right to teach sex education asserting that sexual intimacy belongs exclusively within heterosexual, sacramental marriage."My point is they are not the topics of a sermon | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish.
And don't even get me started on the claim that there is some kind of moral authority gained from these groups. Come back when the Catholic orders have paid the abuse reparation money still not paid to abuse victims. They are morally disgusting."Im not talking about moral authority taught by church. And i am the first to condemn actions of the past by priests and the church. And i wholeheartedly call for reparation funds to be paid. Please dont make assumptions on my view on this. The 'come back' part of your statement is ignored as i have every right to make a statement on here as everyone else | |||
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" My point is they are not the topics of a sermon" Original Sin would like a word. We aren't getting fir and brimstone sermons from pulpit anymore but the Church's stance hasn't gone away, it just uses softer more modern phrasing. Look at the language used across the standard rituals. At baptisms and confirmations, there’s emphasis on keeping kids safe from a "hyper-sexualized culture" and practicing "chastity." By the time you get to weddings, the focus shifts to love being "ordered toward procreation" and avoiding "selfish lifestyles," which is just theological code against contraception and non-traditional relationships. Even at funerals the focus on deathbed absolution and entering eternity "spotless" keeps that shite alive. The tone is way more polite and pastoral now, but the message is exactly the same. Anything outside a very specific, traditional box is still framed as broken and it's the constant, subtle repetition that keeps the cultural repression on go. | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish
You never taught anything about sex outside marriage being a sin? You never heard anything negative about contraception? You never heard anything about same sex relations being wrong? I'm finding this all quite hard to believe as these are core social principles of the Catholic church.
The last mother and baby home closed in 1998. The last magdaline laundry closed in 1996. This isnt ancient history. Brushing this stuff under the carpet and pretending this didn't fuck up our attitudes to sex is burying your head in th sand. You STILL hear Catholic lobby groups pressuring for the right to teach sex education asserting that sexual intimacy belongs exclusively within heterosexual, sacramental marriage.
My point is they are not the topics of a sermon"The sermons are the thin edge of the wedge tbf. When we see a school book with a story about Mary and her husband John, and their lover Michael, then we'll know the church is no longer influencing things. | |||
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" My point is they are not the topics of a sermon Original Sin would like a word. We aren't getting fir and brimstone sermons from pulpit anymore but the Church's stance hasn't gone away, it just uses softer more modern phrasing. Look at the language used across the standard rituals. At baptisms and confirmations, there’s emphasis on keeping kids safe from a "hyper-sexualized culture" and practicing "chastity." By the time you get to weddings, the focus shifts to love being "ordered toward procreation" and avoiding "selfish lifestyles," which is just theological code against contraception and non-traditional relationships. Even at funerals the focus on deathbed absolution and entering eternity "spotless" keeps that shite alive. The tone is way more polite and pastoral now, but the message is exactly the same. Anything outside a very specific, traditional box is still framed as broken and it's the constant, subtle repetition that keeps the cultural repression on go. " Can you send a link to baptism and confirmation rites mentioning chastity and hyper sexuslised culture please. Interested to read this | |||
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"To sex in Ireland? Swinging sex, no strings etc. do you think Ireland has a backwards downgrading view on it by a lot of people ?" The printed media are worse, they are the ones who exploit when they can. We think they do far far more harm today than any religions do. It's the same "churches" that are abroad in Europe. You have swingers clubs within walking distance from the vatican in rome. We don't see them being harrased. | |||
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"To sex in Ireland? Swinging sex, no strings etc. do you think Ireland has a backwards downgrading view on it by a lot of people ? The printed media are worse, they are the ones who exploit when they can. We think they do far far more harm today than any religions do. It's the same "churches" that are abroad in Europe. You have swingers clubs within walking distance from the vatican in rome. We don't see them being harrased. " Yeah I agree there is a real fear of the press getting into an event and getting some salacious pics of swinging happening. They absolutely would if they could and the impact would be damaging on people's lives. I remember the big cork social a few years back at silver springs where they got wind of the event and ran multiple stories about the upcoming sex party there. The hotel to their credit kept the booking but were super cautious about not letting attendees who werent staying go back to rooms. It was as a proper cat and mouse game sneaking people up 
There have also been couples having their pics printed from here in the media and were recognised. It's a serious genuine concern alright.
The British press are even worse though (remember the phone hacking scandal) and it doesn't seem to hold them back as much. | |||
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" Can you send a link to baptism and confirmation rites mentioning chastity and hyper sexuslised culture please. Interested to read this" Lookup the "12 fruits of the holy spirit". This can be taught in communion prep and includes chastity. It's also in the Catechism. Hyper sexuality is a modern concept so would hardly be found in anything official from them. They tend to run a few hundred years behind the rest of us on social issues | |||
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" Can you send a link to baptism and confirmation rites mentioning chastity and hyper sexuslised culture please. Interested to read this Lookup the "12 fruits of the holy spirit". This can be taught in communion prep and includes chastity. It's also in the Catechism. Hyper sexuality is a modern concept so would hardly be found in anything official from them. They tend to run a few hundred years behind the rest of us on social issues "What a load of bs | |||
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" What a load of bs" Back to debating school for you 
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" What a load of bs Back to debating school for you
Care to elaborate?"No need to elaborate just a load off bs. | |||
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" What a load of bs Back to debating school for you
Care to elaborate? No need to elaborate just a load off bs."A "load off" bullshit
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" What a load of bs Back to debating school for you
Care to elaborate? No need to elaborate just a load off bs.
A "load off" bullshit
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"Be sure to mention those fisting thoughts in confession today Jimmy
I will say a prayer for sir jef"Oh you're one of those who thinks everyone anyone critical of Catholicsm must be on the other side. Ick. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 07/06/26 07:59:06]" How's Andy keeping. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 07/06/26 07:59:06]How's Andy keeping. " Now you've completely lost me. Must be some sectarian in-joke | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 07/06/26 07:59:06]How's Andy keeping. Now you've completely lost me. Must be some sectarian in-joke" U know Andy everyone heard of Andy . | |||
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"Church gets a hit for most things these days. Time to change the record The church literally controlled the population and tells everyone that sex outside marriage is shameful. You don't think this stuff has a lasting effect? Wake up!
There is a moral compass that comes with such things. Being age i am i never heard anything about sex being preached in church and i am a regular attender. Next i will be hearing the nay sayers but thats my experience. Attitudes over sex run deeper in this country and its not all church. I see a post about COI refusal for a baptism which is wrong. That would be a rare occurance. Actually heard about it once recently in abother COI parish.
And don't even get me started on the claim that there is some kind of moral authority gained from these groups. Come back when the Catholic orders have paid the abuse reparation money still not paid to abuse victims. They are morally disgusting."Andy and jef. | |||
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"This isn't the insult you think it is Jimmy. I couldn't give two shits about religious zealots and disgusting people on either side of your divide. " Who said anything about insults | |||
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"Enjoy mass Jimmy. I'm done here arguing with potato. Peace out" Who's arguing just asking after a few of your own. | |||
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"My partner is Irish. I'm Italian. Sex is way more taboo in Ireland. Hence why there's more weird people. Normalize sex and people will be more inclined to act normally. " Most of the weirdo's are blow-ins | |||
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"My partner is Irish. I'm Italian. Sex is way more taboo in Ireland. Hence why there's more weird people. Normalize sex and people will be more inclined to act normally. " What's weird about not wanting to share your partner,or being faithful or not wanting an audience when making love or having some morals. | |||
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