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"Isn't it more of an international fuel crisis rather than just a domestic issue. I know the Irish government love to take us to the cleaners in fuel anyway but a lot of that is down to the EU. " About 22% of our oil needs comes from the 4th state, the majority of our oil needs are supplied from the North Sea rigs and there’s a small part from America which gets refined in Cork too. | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️" Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. " I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual?" The government won't even try and help the Irish who are struggling but they have money to trow at every immigration that enters this country.. I'm self employed and this is hurting me..and the government won't give me dole or any financial help if I go belly up . So im 💯 percent behind this. Sorry if iv pissing on your cornflakes but Im not moving | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads " Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. I think he means the high amount of taxes lifted from ful is being used to pay for the housing of immigrants and millions to other nations , 40 million handed over to Ukraine last week alone , all taxpayers money , and on the same day it was announced that they can’t afford to pay for blister packs for our sick ! Somethings got to give !! ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual?" | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? The government won't even try and help the Irish who are struggling but they have money to trow at every immigration that enters this country.. I'm self employed and this is hurting me..and the government won't give me dole or any financial help if I go belly up . So im 💯 percent behind this. Sorry if iv pissing on your cornflakes but Im not moving " I have no major issue with the protest. I do have an issue with immigration being blamed for everything the government does wrong. My concern would be overpaying for building projects and the TDs making millions in the property game while also taking a large salary from the state tbh. This fuel crisis and everything that comes from it is Trumps and Netanyahus fault, not a person coming from another country trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices " Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today " It's simple drop the carbon charges and cap the price of fuel at 1.70. We include you and every person in this country who heats their home or uses electricity or drives a motor propelled vehicle are being charged fifty eight percent taxes on every ltr of fuel they use that's over half the price so yes of course they can ease the pain and stop squandering money on bike sheds and printers and electronic voting machines. And don't start me on the children's hospital 😒 | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today " unfortunately we don’t have a general election coming up in the next month or so! If we hah, the government TDs would be scrambling to do something about this issue which affects every citizen of Ireland in order to gain votes. Regrettably people will have forgotten all about this by the time the next election comes around | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today It's simple drop the carbon charges and cap the price of fuel at 1.70. We include you and every person in this country who heats their home or uses electricity or drives a motor propelled vehicle are being charged fifty eight percent taxes on every ltr of fuel they use that's over half the price so yes of course they can ease the pain and stop squandering money on bike sheds and printers and electronic voting machines. And don't start me on the children's hospital 😒 " So for the couple of hundred million that this will cost can you tell me where the everyday spending cutbacks will be The old age pension Social welfare payments The Health service | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today It's simple drop the carbon charges and cap the price of fuel at 1.70. We include you and every person in this country who heats their home or uses electricity or drives a motor propelled vehicle are being charged fifty eight percent taxes on every ltr of fuel they use that's over half the price so yes of course they can ease the pain and stop squandering money on bike sheds and printers and electronic voting machines. And don't start me on the children's hospital 😒 So for the couple of hundred million that this will cost can you tell me where the everyday spending cutbacks will be The old age pension Social welfare payments The Health service " My point is they don't have to keep putting the taxes on it if its capped . They are still making what they were earlier in the year . I know agri fuel means nothing to you but it's almost doubled in price inside a month (so costing probably 5oo hundred euros a day more to run big machinery if the prices are added on nobody will be able to afford to eat )while fertilisers have gone up hundreds per ton along with all other inputs while the factory's continually cut the prices of beef lamb and pig. They relied on the farmers of Ireland to get us through the last recession they won't be able to do it again because they'll be gone to . And I'm not blaming you it's all The silly bastard that voted in this government | |||
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"I've no issue with people protesting the cost of fuel in theory. However, it raises the temperature. And the more people are riled up by it, the more those of us at the frontline of selling it are being subjected to abuse just for turning up to do a day's work. I've lost count of the angry tirades now. The relentless snide remarks about how much more we're making per hour, or the bonuses we're getting on the back of it. People calling you all sorts because the price went up between them pulling off the road and filling up and the total difference working out at 10p. All day. Every day. I've never sworn at a customer ever, but I broke on Saturday and told someone to fuck off when his "simple question" became increasingly confrontational and personal. Sadly, the heat of protest often ends up with people who have the least skin in the game bearing the brunt of the anger " Anyone having a pop at someone working the tills over all this is a fucking brain donor | |||
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"If the government decide to drop a large percentage of the tax on fuel so that it costs 1.70 a litre How soon will it take for the oil companies to start adding extra margin on to bring the price back up What then " It would have to be tracked by the price of a barrel of crude oil its not rocket science.. And speaking of that what did that cost to launch and the carbon footprint ot leaves behind 🤔 | |||
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"I've no issue with people protesting the cost of fuel in theory. However, it raises the temperature. And the more people are riled up by it, the more those of us at the frontline of selling it are being subjected to abuse just for turning up to do a day's work. I've lost count of the angry tirades now. The relentless snide remarks about how much more we're making per hour, or the bonuses we're getting on the back of it. People calling you all sorts because the price went up between them pulling off the road and filling up and the total difference working out at 10p. All day. Every day. I've never sworn at a customer ever, but I broke on Saturday and told someone to fuck off when his "simple question" became increasingly confrontational and personal. Sadly, the heat of protest often ends up with people who have the least skin in the game bearing the brunt of the anger Anyone having a pop at someone working the tills over all this is a fucking brain donor" Who has already donated 😉 I've stopped engaging now. Or even making eye contact just in case 🙄 | |||
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"Won't make a blind bit of difference because the government doesn't listen to the Irish as they more concerned about other people " I know thats directed towards the non nationals in the country and thats a completely different conversation on another thread The problem is that when you get into discussions about it then it normally turns into outright racism on the forums and I wish it didn't Also people think you agree with the government by pointing out something they do that benefits people HAP payments last year were over 500 million alone...so the government is doing something for the Irish apart from welfare payments Part of the problem is also that everyone has a different agenda My biggest issue is the cost of housing....the cost of filling my car is way down my list of issues to be honest | |||
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"I've no issue with people protesting the cost of fuel in theory. However, it raises the temperature. And the more people are riled up by it, the more those of us at the frontline of selling it are being subjected to abuse just for turning up to do a day's work. I've lost count of the angry tirades now. The relentless snide remarks about how much more we're making per hour, or the bonuses we're getting on the back of it. People calling you all sorts because the price went up between them pulling off the road and filling up and the total difference working out at 10p. All day. Every day. I've never sworn at a customer ever, but I broke on Saturday and told someone to fuck off when his "simple question" became increasingly confrontational and personal. Sadly, the heat of protest often ends up with people who have the least skin in the game bearing the brunt of the anger Anyone having a pop at someone working the tills over all this is a fucking brain donor Who has already donated 😉 I've stopped engaging now. Or even making eye contact just in case 🙄" I gave out to a shop assistant once after being charged an extra 1.20 for a large cup of tea (two extra mouth fulls of hot water). I went back in two minutes later and apologised and bought her a box of Ferrari rocher just to be nice ish | |||
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"Disagree with them especially since the Dail isn't even open today but sure look let's fuck up Dublin anyway I understood the protests were meant to set off at 7am to Dublin for 11am There's a fairly big convoy just going past Rathcoole at the moment with a huge tailback behind it heading into Dublin so even people setting out knowing about the protest are getting caught on the roads Your obviously not hurting enough yet Bog .. Get used of looking at them because they are not going anywhere till the government returns and sort this out abolishing carbon tax for everyone and capping fuel prices Everyone that uses fuel is getting hit Prices for everything are about to go up again I pay my hauliers a 22% surcharge on agreed prices and pass it on to my customers so they also pay more My objection to today's protest is simple If you've spend a full day blocking roads and spending your money on diesel and you go home to sit down for your tea What have you achieved.....has the government dropped the prices....no Has it cost you money ....yes Will America bomb Iran tonight and cause the price of oil to shoot up Yes What exactly constitutes a win for the people protesting today It's simple drop the carbon charges and cap the price of fuel at 1.70. We include you and every person in this country who heats their home or uses electricity or drives a motor propelled vehicle are being charged fifty eight percent taxes on every ltr of fuel they use that's over half the price so yes of course they can ease the pain and stop squandering money on bike sheds and printers and electronic voting machines. And don't start me on the children's hospital 😒 So for the couple of hundred million that this will cost can you tell me where the everyday spending cutbacks will be The old age pension Social welfare payments The Health service " How much did we give Ukraine in aid last month ? Maybe a cutback on overseas aid is required. Maybe now the Govt will get up off its arse and give out exploration licences again | |||
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"Won't make a blind bit of difference because the government doesn't listen to the Irish as they more concerned about other people I know thats directed towards the non nationals in the country and thats a completely different conversation on another thread The problem is that when you get into discussions about it then it normally turns into outright racism on the forums and I wish it didn't Also people think you agree with the government by pointing out something they do that benefits people HAP payments last year were over 500 million alone...so the government is doing something for the Irish apart from welfare payments Part of the problem is also that everyone has a different agenda My biggest issue is the cost of housing....the cost of filling my car is way down my list of issues to be honest " You think the cost of housing is bad now.... Builders downing tools because its costing to much to build them.. So its only going to get worse every that to be made and moved to site all fuel related. One builder saying its now costing 30k more to build a house this month. So should fuel be capped or not or are you happy enough to keep paying up | |||
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"Have 3 tractors in protest in Midlands since morning . Don't know if it will make a difference but have to try " Hope it hasn't cost you too much for the day...good luck with it in the future | |||
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"How much did we give Ukraine in aid last month ? Maybe a cutback on overseas aid is required. Maybe now the Govt will get up off its arse and give out exploration licences again The optics of a government minister flying to Ukraine last week to hand over 40 million were terrible alright " It's not just the optics. We have Irish, Spanish, Portuguese and Ukrainians employed. 1 staff member has free accommodation,food,School and College supports. And some are at breaking point. In my opinion this is the tip of the iceberg | |||
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"I've no issue with people protesting the cost of fuel in theory. However, it raises the temperature. And the more people are riled up by it, the more those of us at the frontline of selling it are being subjected to abuse just for turning up to do a day's work. I've lost count of the angry tirades now. The relentless snide remarks about how much more we're making per hour, or the bonuses we're getting on the back of it. People calling you all sorts because the price went up between them pulling off the road and filling up and the total difference working out at 10p. All day. Every day. I've never sworn at a customer ever, but I broke on Saturday and told someone to fuck off when his "simple question" became increasingly confrontational and personal. Sadly, the heat of protest often ends up with people who have the least skin in the game bearing the brunt of the anger Anyone having a pop at someone working the tills over all this is a fucking brain donor Who has already donated 😉 I've stopped engaging now. Or even making eye contact just in case 🙄 I gave out to a shop assistant once after being charged an extra 1.20 for a large cup of tea (two extra mouth fulls of hot water). I went back in two minutes later and apologised and bought her a box of Ferrari rocher just to be nice ish " And told her and yourself that you'd never again make feel like shit someone who has no control over the price?  | |||
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"How much did we give Ukraine in aid last month ? Maybe a cutback on overseas aid is required. Maybe now the Govt will get up off its arse and give out exploration licences again The optics of a government minister flying to Ukraine last week to hand over 40 million were terrible alright It's not just the optics. We have Irish, Spanish, Portuguese and Ukrainians employed. 1 staff member has free accommodation,food,School and College supports. And some are at breaking point. In my opinion this is the tip of the iceberg " I don't blame then foreigners for taking what they can I probably would in their shoes too. Its our government again they will be heavily reliant on them in the next election so they want them on side. Well Bog will vote for the too I'm thinking 🤔 | |||
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"Won't make a blind bit of difference because the government doesn't listen to the Irish as they more concerned about other people I know thats directed towards the non nationals in the country and thats a completely different conversation on another thread The problem is that when you get into discussions about it then it normally turns into outright racism on the forums and I wish it didn't Also people think you agree with the government by pointing out something they do that benefits people HAP payments last year were over 500 million alone...so the government is doing something for the Irish apart from welfare payments Part of the problem is also that everyone has a different agenda My biggest issue is the cost of housing....the cost of filling my car is way down my list of issues to be honest You think the cost of housing is bad now.... Builders downing tools because its costing to much to build them.. So its only going to get worse every that to be made and moved to site all fuel related. One builder saying its now costing 30k more to build a house this month. So should fuel be capped or not or are you happy enough to keep paying up" It’s very hard to have any sympathy for builders when they’re charging €345k for a one bed apartment in Galway. | |||
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"Won't make a blind bit of difference because the government doesn't listen to the Irish as they more concerned about other people I know thats directed towards the non nationals in the country and thats a completely different conversation on another thread The problem is that when you get into discussions about it then it normally turns into outright racism on the forums and I wish it didn't Also people think you agree with the government by pointing out something they do that benefits people HAP payments last year were over 500 million alone...so the government is doing something for the Irish apart from welfare payments Part of the problem is also that everyone has a different agenda My biggest issue is the cost of housing....the cost of filling my car is way down my list of issues to be honest You think the cost of housing is bad now.... Builders downing tools because its costing to much to build them.. So its only going to get worse every that to be made and moved to site all fuel related. One builder saying its now costing 30k more to build a house this month. So should fuel be capped or not or are you happy enough to keep paying up It’s very hard to have any sympathy for builders when they’re charging €345k for a one bed apartment in Galway. " Move to cavan 🤣🤣 No i don't have sympathy for them but I do for the poor people who paid deposits and are at risk of their dream home never been finished and this is all to do with the price of fuel that could be capped | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. " Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉" World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄" I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. " I'd say be prepared to be pissed Jaffa 😤 😒 | |||
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"I do support the protests as the fuel cost increases cost us all in the long run. As someone above mentioned " It maybe better to keep all trucks off the roads for five days and stop all deliveries " This would have a far greater impact than blocking up national roads for one day. The problem their Inq is the irish truckers federation aren't having anything to do with the protest as they are getting a rebate on fuel already (so delivery's would still be made) its the small ferms and independent drivers busses and farmers that are getting hammered again so they have to fight for survival now " That I didn't realise at all. | |||
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"I do support the protests as the fuel cost increases cost us all in the long run. As someone above mentioned " It maybe better to keep all trucks off the roads for five days and stop all deliveries " This would have a far greater impact than blocking up national roads for one day. The problem their Inq is the irish truckers federation aren't having anything to do with the protest as they are getting a rebate on fuel already (so delivery's would still be made) its the small ferms and independent drivers busses and farmers that are getting hammered again so they have to fight for survival now That I didn't realise at all. " Most people don't realise the real truth... Because the government only tell them what suits.. | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪" Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses?? | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses??" The Irish went away 70/80 years ago for a different life but they worked for it no hand outs no living allowance or half board or medical cards that's the difference. out government squanders our taxes and when they run our they screw you a little harder. | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses?? The Irish went away 70/80 years ago for a different life but they worked for it no hand outs no living allowance or half board or medical cards that's the difference. out government squanders our taxes and when they run our they screw you a little harder. So we’re just kicking out the immigrants who don’t work? Should we not then be getting rid of the Irish who don’t work and have no intention of ever having a job? " Believe me I'd love to.. And as I've said previously I don't blame the immigrants if I was in their shoes I'd probably do the same.. I blame the government for giving them a good reason not to work.. I believe we'd be better off trying to help our own homeless instead of letting them die on the streets. But nobody trieds to help them!! Why is that?? | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses?? The Irish went away 70/80 years ago for a different life but they worked for it no hand outs no living allowance or half board or medical cards that's the difference. out government squanders our taxes and when they run our they screw you a little harder. So we’re just kicking out the immigrants who don’t work? Should we not then be getting rid of the Irish who don’t work and have no intention of ever having a job? " This is something that angers me so much. There are Irish here who know perfectly how to work the system and have never worked a day in their lives. You'll also find that they are the ones that almost are at the forefront of every discussion about immigration and how "immigrants" are bleeding this country dry. The government chooses to keep them sweet as they count on their votes for election times. I am self employed and we are getting squeezed dry at every opportunity through taxes and rising costs of running a business. So I definitely support what is happening today. Maybe it won't make a difference but at least they are trying. | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses?? The Irish went away 70/80 years ago for a different life but they worked for it no hand outs no living allowance or half board or medical cards that's the difference. out government squanders our taxes and when they run our they screw you a little harder. So we’re just kicking out the immigrants who don’t work? Should we not then be getting rid of the Irish who don’t work and have no intention of ever having a job? This is something that angers me so much. There are Irish here who know perfectly how to work the system and have never worked a day in their lives. You'll also find that they are the ones that almost are at the forefront of every discussion about immigration and how "immigrants" are bleeding this country dry. The government chooses to keep them sweet as they count on their votes for election times. I am self employed and we are getting squeezed dry at every opportunity through taxes and rising costs of running a business. So I definitely support what is happening today. Maybe it won't make a difference but at least they are trying. " I'm with you 💯 percent on that one Inquisitive | |||
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"I think it gets really old when all the racists arrive to a thread that has nothing to do with immigration. But that’s just me. " I have no problem with anyone who works and contributes to the system. God knows some of our own are to good to do the jobs the immigrants will or at least they think so. People long term on assistant should be made to do work around their communities or be cut off the dole | |||
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"I think it gets really old when all the racists arrive to a thread that has nothing to do with immigration. But that’s just me. I think people are just so frustrated at the moment. I know I am. Working harder than ever and earning less than ever. " We’re all frustrated by why is that frustration being aimed at people who didn’t cause the issue and can’t do anything to solve it. It’s exactly what the government want…blame the people who look different to us so we’re too busy fighting to take down the government. So called anti establishment people playing the exact game the establishment want played but not understanding the irony of it. | |||
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"Protest all they want. If they wanted to make a difference should have done it outside the U.S. embassy. They're the ones that caused this mess in the first place. All the hauliers and the rest of the protestors are doing now is pissing off the average person trying to get from a to b. Ok im not average never claimed to be .. But its happening now and nobody is going anywhere till their change 😉 World doesn't revolve around you buddy 🙄 I didn't say it did either buddy!!!! But its time to take ireland back to the people it belongs to 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪 Should Australia take back their land too and kick everyone except for Aborigines out? What will we do with all the Irish returning to no jobs and no houses?? The Irish went away 70/80 years ago for a different life but they worked for it no hand outs no living allowance or half board or medical cards that's the difference. out government squanders our taxes and when they run our they screw you a little harder. So we’re just kicking out the immigrants who don’t work? Should we not then be getting rid of the Irish who don’t work and have no intention of ever having a job? Believe me I'd love to.. And as I've said previously I don't blame the immigrants if I was in their shoes I'd probably do the same.. I blame the government for giving them a good reason not to work.. I believe we'd be better off trying to help our own homeless instead of letting them die on the streets. But nobody trieds to help them!! Why is that??" And yet all statistics ever produced show that immigrants, and the children of immigrants, are more likely to be working than native born people. The reason the government don't do enough to relieve homelessness is because the majority of voters have repeatedly elected the same two parties into government for the last century. It's also worth noting that the homeless figures include a good % of immigrants. Homeless does not equate to "Irish". Btw, as a lot of people don't seem to understand, homeless does not mean living on the streets. We have enough money in the state to make a start on fixing the homeless crisis but people recently voted in this government knowing that they had lied about the number of houses being built during the election campaign so why would they bother making a start on fixing it? Also, the most important thing that needs to be done to make a start is to build more social and affordable housing but it would appear that the majority of voters don't rant that either. | |||
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"I think it gets really old when all the racists arrive to a thread that has nothing to do with immigration. But that’s just me. I think people are just so frustrated at the moment. I know I am. Working harder than ever and earning less than ever. We’re all frustrated by why is that frustration being aimed at people who didn’t cause the issue and can’t do anything to solve it. It’s exactly what the government want…blame the people who look different to us so we’re too busy fighting to take down the government. So called anti establishment people playing the exact game the establishment want played but not understanding the irony of it. " I'm more angered by the lazy Irish that look like me. Than those who don't look like me and work hard to contribute to society. | |||
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"You can't hope to have a fair and just world in the same world were people take out loans to rent an identical telecommunications machine with a different logo than another. How many different bread companies are there? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Business will always prevail in this society and it's politicians will keep giving them more leash to put around your necks as they can't afford the negativity it would cost them to oppose it 💵💵💵 Politicians do mostly what they think the majority of their voters want. If there's no negativity from their voters then nothing will change. Having days that, FF and FG combined make up 35% in opinion polls at the moment so maybe we will eventually give someone else a go. " The option of going into government wit SF is highly unlikely with FF or FG They'd have to swing a lot of leaning indp | |||
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"You can't hope to have a fair and just world in the same world were people take out loans to rent an identical telecommunications machine with a different logo than another. How many different bread companies are there? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Business will always prevail in this society and it's politicians will keep giving them more leash to put around your necks as they can't afford the negativity it would cost them to oppose it 💵💵💵 Politicians do mostly what they think the majority of their voters want. If there's no negativity from their voters then nothing will change. Having days that, FF and FG combined make up 35% in opinion polls at the moment so maybe we will eventually give someone else a go. The option of going into government wit SF is highly unlikely with FF or FG They'd have to swing a lot of leaning indp FF would go into government with the devil himself if it kept them in power. They'll have a new leader soon enough so things may change. It's all about the numbers after an election. Martin swore that they'd never go into government with FG a few weeks before they went into government with FG. I suppose its a few years away so a lot could happen" It would have to be an independent ireland government or were going nowhere fast | |||
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"You can't hope to have a fair and just world in the same world were people take out loans to rent an identical telecommunications machine with a different logo than another. How many different bread companies are there? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Business will always prevail in this society and it's politicians will keep giving them more leash to put around your necks as they can't afford the negativity it would cost them to oppose it 💵💵💵 Politicians do mostly what they think the majority of their voters want. If there's no negativity from their voters then nothing will change. Having days that, FF and FG combined make up 35% in opinion polls at the moment so maybe we will eventually give someone else a go. The option of going into government wit SF is highly unlikely with FF or FG They'd have to swing a lot of leaning indp FF would go into government with the devil himself if it kept them in power. They'll have a new leader soon enough so things may change. It's all about the numbers after an election. Martin swore that they'd never go into government with FG a few weeks before they went into government with FG. I suppose its a few years away so a lot could happen It would have to be an independent ireland government or were going nowhere fast " Yeah, we'll agree to differ on that point. I have no desire to see openly racist people in government. We had enough of that back in the day with the blueshirts.  | |||
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"Why protest when the government is of on Holidays. Why protest over fuel costs and then burn fuel to protest. I get the understanding of a protest but I feel they went the wrong way around it. Why not wait until government is sitting again and block government buildings. No need to bring vehicles out. Jump on a bus or train and blocked government buildings and roar at our so called leaders trying to get in and out of the government. " They are going to have to come back to address this problem.. Why should they get more holiday's now..they are all only back from state paid st Patrick's day holidays.. They spend more time on holidays than they do in the dail .and when their the spend a good bit of time in the dail bar and restaurant instead of doing what they are paid to do whilst running up unpaid accounts!! They won't listen to you unless they are forced to so unfortunately blocking up the city is the only way. Groups have been trying to make contact with them to avoid this but as normal its fallen on def ears | |||
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"Why protest when the government is of on Holidays. Why protest over fuel costs and then burn fuel to protest. I get the understanding of a protest but I feel they went the wrong way around it. Why not wait until government is sitting again and block government buildings. No need to bring vehicles out. Jump on a bus or train and blocked government buildings and roar at our so called leaders trying to get in and out of the government. " This would be the way to get more people on board but I suppose the optics of using the street with The GPO on it tonight as a car park will have to do I dont think the government will do anything until after their meeting with The Road Haulage Association and The IFA because they won't want to be seen to give in to the protectors | |||
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"Why protest when the government is of on Holidays. Why protest over fuel costs and then burn fuel to protest. I get the understanding of a protest but I feel they went the wrong way around it. Why not wait until government is sitting again and block government buildings. No need to bring vehicles out. Jump on a bus or train and blocked government buildings and roar at our so called leaders trying to get in and out of the government. This would be the way to get more people on board but I suppose the optics of using the street with The GPO on it tonight as a car park will have to do I dont think the government will do anything until after their meeting with The Road Haulage Association and The IFA because they won't want to be seen to give in to the protectors " The road haulage association have said its nothing to do with them as have the spinless ifa and they are not involved so theirs no point in talking to them its the men and wemon on the streets they have to address. All of them protests have pledged not to leave Dublin until this is sorted.. So the government are going to have to sit tomorrow and do something... | |||
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"Isn't it more of an international fuel crisis rather than just a domestic issue. I know the Irish government love to take us to the cleaners in fuel anyway but a lot of that is down to the EU. Last week in Tenerife, Petrol €1.35l That's not international,that is government policy " There's protests in Spain about the price of fuel in The canaries Fuel there is heavily subsidised by the spanish government | |||
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"Isn't it more of an international fuel crisis rather than just a domestic issue. I know the Irish government love to take us to the cleaners in fuel anyway but a lot of that is down to the EU. Last week in Tenerife, Petrol €1.35l That's not international,that is government policy " I'm in Italy at the minute and diesel here is €2.53. Not sure what petrol is. | |||
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"Isn't it more of an international fuel crisis rather than just a domestic issue. I know the Irish government love to take us to the cleaners in fuel anyway but a lot of that is down to the EU. Last week in Tenerife, Petrol €1.35l That's not international,that is government policy There's protests in Spain about the price of fuel in The canaries Fuel there is heavily subsidised by the spanish government " You mean Not Taxed like here | |||
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"You can't hope to have a fair and just world in the same world were people take out loans to rent an identical telecommunications machine with a different logo than another. How many different bread companies are there? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Business will always prevail in this society and it's politicians will keep giving them more leash to put around your necks as they can't afford the negativity it would cost them to oppose it 💵💵💵 Politicians do mostly what they think the majority of their voters want. If there's no negativity from their voters then nothing will change. Having days that, FF and FG combined make up 35% in opinion polls at the moment so maybe we will eventually give someone else a go. The option of going into government wit SF is highly unlikely with FF or FG They'd have to swing a lot of leaning indp FF would go into government with the devil himself if it kept them in power. They'll have a new leader soon enough so things may change. It's all about the numbers after an election. Martin swore that they'd never go into government with FG a few weeks before they went into government with FG. The big problem with our government is that they have forgotten who they work for !!!! " I honestly don't think that's the problem. I think the problem is that the people who voted for the government parties and the independents are totally oblivious to the actual realities that everyone else faces. You get the government you vote for. | |||
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"I think it gets really old when all the racists arrive to a thread that has nothing to do with immigration. But that’s just me. I have no problem with anyone who works and contributes to the system. God knows some of our own are to good to do the jobs the immigrants will or at least they think so. People long term on assistant should be made to do work around their communities or be cut off the dole" 💯 years ago they had to upkeep the cemeteries, local parks etc. | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. " do you think it was fun for us with vehicles parked today for 12 hours trying to get noticed . And you get pissed trying to get home, when we all were trying to do is get fuel prices lowered for everybody in the country . Waste a lot of fuel you say .I used fuck all fuel today compared to working on the land and green diseal coming in at over 1.60 a liter. | |||
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"We elect politicians that you wouldn't let run a bath nevermind a business, but we let them run a country and they and their civil servants seriously waste tax payers money with zero accountability. None of them would survive in business yet they get to run the biggest business of all. Doomed to fail L" Real talk 👏💯 | |||
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"There has always been a rebate on diesel fuel used by farmers and builders for "offroad" equipment. The VAT, Excise Duty, Carbon Tax and NORA levy are "OUR taxes" levied by "OUR government" as part of the management of "OUR economy". The Dáil is equally in recess for both government and opposition parties. Change of government influenced by popular protest, à la the MAGA movement in the US, may not always bring about a result in the best interest of the population at large. I would be interested to see the employment stats regarding immigrant versus native born. Global situations are causing problems that won't be solved by tinkering with excise duty on diesel to discourage a few farmers from showing off their New Holland's, with the emphasis on "new".... Just a few random thoughts of a "snowflake silly bastard" who experienced similar fuel crises as far back as 1973 during shortages caused by the Arab/Israeli war and the 1979 Iranian Revolution......certainly a case of history repeating itself. " An excellent post that won’t be heard by many in the race to be outraged. | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. do you think it was fun for us with vehicles parked today for 12 hours trying to get noticed . And you get pissed trying to get home, when we all were trying to do is get fuel prices lowered for everybody in the country . Waste a lot of fuel you say .I used fuck all fuel today compared to working on the land and green diseal coming in at over 1.60 a liter. " I never suggested that you were having fun nor did I say that I don’t support the protest. I do question the usefulness of a protest about fuel at rush hour leading to an increased use of fuel for everyone trying to get wherever they needed to be 🤷🏻♀️ Surely it would be more effective to go park at government offices and block them rather than block the roads. | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. do you think it was fun for us with vehicles parked today for 12 hours trying to get noticed . And you get pissed trying to get home, when we all were trying to do is get fuel prices lowered for everybody in the country . Waste a lot of fuel you say .I used fuck all fuel today compared to working on the land and green diseal coming in at over 1.60 a liter. I never suggested that you were having fun nor did I say that I don’t support the protest. I do question the usefulness of a protest about fuel at rush hour leading to an increased use of fuel for everyone trying to get wherever they needed to be 🤷🏻♀️ Surely it would be more effective to go park at government offices and block them rather than block the roads. " It would be lovely if it could work like that, but unfortunately it would go unnoticed as per normal. Generally if its not inside the m50 it doesn't matter. So its time to bring it where its seen... | |||
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"The protest today will have little impact, I support it and appreciate why people feel the need to go out, but people on the streets, civilly, without trouble, (riots, looting, etc.) will always have a better impact and gain more support with less disruption to people that are just trying to get on with their day than loads of vehicles on the roads, ironically using even more of the product they’ve protesting about the price of. The government won’t do anything till the prices top out or stabilise, there’s no point, it will just be swallowed up with a price increase, no one will notice it and the politicians will get no thanks or credit, absolutely no one is standing at the pumps thinking, could be worse, could be 20c more expensive but it isn’t all thanks to our government. I think the recent announcement of a ceasefire for two weeks is dependent on Iran agreeing to allow shipping etc., which I don’t believe they yet have. While the impact of the current global unrest is being felt here, it’s mostly being felt in our pockets, and while I appreciate the problems that will bring to us all, there are people and families in other countries tonight who are measuring it in a different way, and the price of a barrel of oil will mean nothing to them. Not to mention the families of Irish peacekeepers who are serving all over the world at the moment." We are incredibly privileged that the only way this pointless war is impacting us is in our pockets. If the world had reacted to the genocide in Gaza and demanded a stop to it the way it’s reacted to western pockets being hit, this war and the subsequent fuel crisis would never have happened. Israel and the US have been allowed to act with impunity and this is the consequence of that. | |||
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"I've no issue with people protesting the cost of fuel in theory. However, it raises the temperature. And the more people are riled up by it, the more those of us at the frontline of selling it are being subjected to abuse just for turning up to do a day's work. I've lost count of the angry tirades now. The relentless snide remarks about how much more we're making per hour, or the bonuses we're getting on the back of it. People calling you all sorts because the price went up between them pulling off the road and filling up and the total difference working out at 10p. All day. Every day. I've never sworn at a customer ever, but I broke on Saturday and told someone to fuck off when his "simple question" became increasingly confrontational and personal. Sadly, the heat of protest often ends up with people who have the least skin in the game bearing the brunt of the anger I hear ya.had a hell of a day today getting attitude from people about delays due to the protest,out of my control of course, even got blamed for one man missing his flight..I should have done better not exactly the same as your scenario but as you say the people with no control over the situations get the heat "D'ya know, I had a whole reply typed out but I've decided is sufficient | |||
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"The protest today will have little impact, I support it and appreciate why people feel the need to go out, but people on the streets, civilly, without trouble, (riots, looting, etc.) will always have a better impact and gain more support with less disruption to people that are just trying to get on with their day than loads of vehicles on the roads, ironically using even more of the product they’ve protesting about the price of. The government won’t do anything till the prices top out or stabilise, there’s no point, it will just be swallowed up with a price increase, no one will notice it and the politicians will get no thanks or credit, absolutely no one is standing at the pumps thinking, could be worse, could be 20c more expensive but it isn’t all thanks to our government. I think the recent announcement of a ceasefire for two weeks is dependent on Iran agreeing to allow shipping etc., which I don’t believe they yet have. While the impact of the current global unrest is being felt here, it’s mostly being felt in our pockets, and while I appreciate the problems that will bring to us all, there are people and families in other countries tonight who are measuring it in a different way, and the price of a barrel of oil will mean nothing to them. Not to mention the families of Irish peacekeepers who are serving all over the world at the moment. We are incredibly privileged that the only way this pointless war is impacting us is in our pockets. If the world had reacted to the genocide in Gaza and demanded a stop to it the way it’s reacted to western pockets being hit, this war and the subsequent fuel crisis would never have happened. Israel and the US have been allowed to act with impunity and this is the consequence of that. " .... This...👍👏 | |||
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"The protest today will have little impact, I support it and appreciate why people feel the need to go out, but people on the streets, civilly, without trouble, (riots, looting, etc.) will always have a better impact and gain more support with less disruption to people that are just trying to get on with their day than loads of vehicles on the roads, ironically using even more of the product they’ve protesting about the price of. The government won’t do anything till the prices top out or stabilise, there’s no point, it will just be swallowed up with a price increase, no one will notice it and the politicians will get no thanks or credit, absolutely no one is standing at the pumps thinking, could be worse, could be 20c more expensive but it isn’t all thanks to our government. I think the recent announcement of a ceasefire for two weeks is dependent on Iran agreeing to allow shipping etc., which I don’t believe they yet have. While the impact of the current global unrest is being felt here, it’s mostly being felt in our pockets, and while I appreciate the problems that will bring to us all, there are people and families in other countries tonight who are measuring it in a different way, and the price of a barrel of oil will mean nothing to them. Not to mention the families of Irish peacekeepers who are serving all over the world at the moment. We are incredibly privileged that the only way this pointless war is impacting us is in our pockets. If the world had reacted to the genocide in Gaza and demanded a stop to it the way it’s reacted to western pockets being hit, this war and the subsequent fuel crisis would never have happened. Israel and the US have been allowed to act with impunity and this is the consequence of that. .... This...👍👏" 👏 The world is closer to the brink than it has ever been. Parking a tractor on O’Connell Bridge is such a futile gesture. | |||
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"The protest today will have little impact, I support it and appreciate why people feel the need to go out, but people on the streets, civilly, without trouble, (riots, looting, etc.) will always have a better impact and gain more support with less disruption to people that are just trying to get on with their day than loads of vehicles on the roads, ironically using even more of the product they’ve protesting about the price of. The government won’t do anything till the prices top out or stabilise, there’s no point, it will just be swallowed up with a price increase, no one will notice it and the politicians will get no thanks or credit, absolutely no one is standing at the pumps thinking, could be worse, could be 20c more expensive but it isn’t all thanks to our government. I think the recent announcement of a ceasefire for two weeks is dependent on Iran agreeing to allow shipping etc., which I don’t believe they yet have. While the impact of the current global unrest is being felt here, it’s mostly being felt in our pockets, and while I appreciate the problems that will bring to us all, there are people and families in other countries tonight who are measuring it in a different way, and the price of a barrel of oil will mean nothing to them. Not to mention the families of Irish peacekeepers who are serving all over the world at the moment. We are incredibly privileged that the only way this pointless war is impacting us is in our pockets. If the world had reacted to the genocide in Gaza and demanded a stop to it the way it’s reacted to western pockets being hit, this war and the subsequent fuel crisis would never have happened. Israel and the US have been allowed to act with impunity and this is the consequence of that. .... This...👍👏 👏 The world is closer to the brink than it has ever been. Parking a tractor on O’Connell Bridge is such a futile gesture. " The 1916 rising was a futile gesture, and yet... | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. do you think it was fun for us with vehicles parked today for 12 hours trying to get noticed . And you get pissed trying to get home, when we all were trying to do is get fuel prices lowered for everybody in the country . Waste a lot of fuel you say .I used fuck all fuel today compared to working on the land and green diseal coming in at over 1.60 a liter. I never suggested that you were having fun nor did I say that I don’t support the protest. I do question the usefulness of a protest about fuel at rush hour leading to an increased use of fuel for everyone trying to get wherever they needed to be 🤷🏻♀️ Surely it would be more effective to go park at government offices and block them rather than block the roads. " my breed are in dublin again today , there waiting to be heard ,word on the ground here is not one of them in answering phones in leister house . So it's not tractors trucks that had you pissed ,it the government. Once they talk listen , give what we want ,then we will be gone .they can well afford to help . | |||
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"The irony is that it’s going to waste a lot of fuel for everyone stuck on the roads for double the amount of time. I can still hear horns going off down the road and tbh, if they’re blocking the roads at rush hour when we’re all just trying to get home, I’ll be pissed. do you think it was fun for us with vehicles parked today for 12 hours trying to get noticed . And you get pissed trying to get home, when we all were trying to do is get fuel prices lowered for everybody in the country . Waste a lot of fuel you say .I used fuck all fuel today compared to working on the land and green diseal coming in at over 1.60 a liter. I never suggested that you were having fun nor did I say that I don’t support the protest. I do question the usefulness of a protest about fuel at rush hour leading to an increased use of fuel for everyone trying to get wherever they needed to be 🤷🏻♀️ Surely it would be more effective to go park at government offices and block them rather than block the roads. my breed are in dublin again today , there waiting to be heard ,word on the ground here is not one of them in answering phones in leister house . So it's not tractors trucks that had you pissed ,it the government. Once they talk listen , give what we want ,then we will be gone .they can well afford to help . " Believe me I’m well capable of being pissed off at more than one group of people  | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual?" Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy" This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. | |||
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"The protest today will have little impact, I support it and appreciate why people feel the need to go out, but people on the streets, civilly, without trouble, (riots, looting, etc.) will always have a better impact and gain more support with less disruption to people that are just trying to get on with their day than loads of vehicles on the roads, ironically using even more of the product they’ve protesting about the price of. The government won’t do anything till the prices top out or stabilise, there’s no point, it will just be swallowed up with a price increase, no one will notice it and the politicians will get no thanks or credit, absolutely no one is standing at the pumps thinking, could be worse, could be 20c more expensive but it isn’t all thanks to our government. I think the recent announcement of a ceasefire for two weeks is dependent on Iran agreeing to allow shipping etc., which I don’t believe they yet have. While the impact of the current global unrest is being felt here, it’s mostly being felt in our pockets, and while I appreciate the problems that will bring to us all, there are people and families in other countries tonight who are measuring it in a different way, and the price of a barrel of oil will mean nothing to them. Not to mention the families of Irish peacekeepers who are serving all over the world at the moment. We are incredibly privileged that the only way this pointless war is impacting us is in our pockets. If the world had reacted to the genocide in Gaza and demanded a stop to it the way it’s reacted to western pockets being hit, this war and the subsequent fuel crisis would never have happened. Israel and the US have been allowed to act with impunity and this is the consequence of that. .... This...👍👏 👏 The world is closer to the brink than it has ever been. Parking a tractor on O’Connell Bridge is such a futile gesture. The 1916 rising was a futile gesture, and yet... " In 1916 the impact of blowing up infrastructure in the Middle East wasn’t an issue. We are now part of a global economy. While our country is far from perfect we have a lot to be grateful for. If people want to protest start outside the American, Israeli and Russian embassies. | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. " Something we agree on. One of my concerns about these protests is that some of the symbolism being used would be associated with the Ireland Says No brigade. | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. Something we agree on. One of my concerns about these protests is that some of the symbolism being used would be associated with the Ireland Says No brigade. " I hear that. One of the lads involved was also part of a ".... say no" group not terribly long ago. Most aren't though. | |||
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"My biggest issue with it is the "we are trying to get fuel reduced for everyone line" When let's face it if there was a deal made for just a reduction in commercial use the roads would be cleared instantly. I empathise with the squeeze the current situation is putting on people though so I support the cause, if not the messaging and method. Also what jaffa said (obviously) They have the diesel rebate scheme,I'm sure a lot of the protesters are already availing of it,most self employed driving hgv's or buses would qualify for it" But they need/want more | |||
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"My biggest issue with it is the "we are trying to get fuel reduced for everyone line" When let's face it if there was a deal made for just a reduction in commercial use the roads would be cleared instantly. I empathise with the squeeze the current situation is putting on people though so I support the cause, if not the messaging and method. Also what jaffa said (obviously) They have the diesel rebate scheme,I'm sure a lot of the protesters are already availing of it,most self employed driving hgv's or buses would qualify for it But they need/want more " Doesn't everyone | |||
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"Now they're blocking the inbound side of the Naas road into Dublin for miles Madness to get people to turn against them In my opinion the guys running it are loving the fact they they're on the radio/ news/ papers and starting to think that they're in charge and love the sound of their own voices Hopefully traffic fines incoming on the lot of them " Just listening to the news.. they are loving the sound of their voices - couldn't give a fiddlers how it's affecting anyone else, even when it was put to them that people couldn't get to work. Independent councillor said people can use the Luas to get to hospitals if they have appointments and everything else is irrelevant. The motorway to Limerick is blocked off now before Ennis. Support is waining... | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. Em ,,,, no.... farmers, hauliers , and essential workers kept this country alive through the pandemic whilst everyone else enjoyed a holiday,,, immigration/ migration only came to the fore at the very end of the pandemic,, at the beggining of the ukraine war, up to then it was managed until mr green bollox put his 7 or 8 language tweet out, that opened the floodgates for our tax money to be spent on spongers, murderers, rapists paedophiles etc etc " | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. Em ,,,, no.... farmers, hauliers , and essential workers kept this country alive through the pandemic whilst everyone else enjoyed a holiday,,, immigration/ migration only came to the fore at the very end of the pandemic,, at the beggining of the ukraine war, up to then it was managed until mr green bollox put his 7 or 8 language tweet out, that opened the floodgates for our tax money to be spent on spongers, murderers, rapists paedophiles etc etc " You're completely wrong in your analysis but don't let facts stop you. | |||
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"Cut across the mountains and made it home no problem but listened to the radio for a while to get the mood A farming contractor has 8 tractors He put 6 on the protest and the other 2 had bit and pieces to do so he let them Thats nothing to do with the cost of fuel ....thats him being not good at his job if he's no work for 6 tractors School Bus companies signed contracts when fuel was at a certain price Now they lose less by not working when the schools go back next week They cant put the buses on the road next week when the schools go back Thats going to be a huge issue " The fields are so wet you can't put tractors into many. Also it april | |||
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"Cut across the mountains and made it home no problem but listened to the radio for a while to get the mood A farming contractor has 8 tractors He put 6 on the protest and the other 2 had bit and pieces to do so he let them Thats nothing to do with the cost of fuel ....thats him being not good at his job if he's no work for 6 tractors School Bus companies signed contracts when fuel was at a certain price Now they lose less by not working when the schools go back next week They cant put the buses on the road next week when the schools go back Thats going to be a huge issue The fields are so wet you can't put tractors into many. Also it april" So there's no work anyway but Diesel cost is killing them Can't be both | |||
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"Cut across the mountains and made it home no problem but listened to the radio for a while to get the mood A farming contractor has 8 tractors He put 6 on the protest and the other 2 had bit and pieces to do so he let them Thats nothing to do with the cost of fuel ....thats him being not good at his job if he's no work for 6 tractors School Bus companies signed contracts when fuel was at a certain price Now they lose less by not working when the schools go back next week They cant put the buses on the road next week when the schools go back Thats going to be a huge issue The fields are so wet you can't put tractors into many. Also it april So there's no work anyway but Diesel cost is killing them Can't be both" There's loads of work but a lot can't be done. He will most likely want his 8 tractors for silage season when they will probably be going 24/7 for a few weeks/months. Thats in the summer. This time of year, ploughing and planting, slurry spreading, couple of his tractors would most likely be idle for most of the winter. Iv land rented to a farmer. Normally he would have slurry out and fertilizer out. There hasn't been a gate opened here yet this year. Too wet | |||
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"Peaceful protest is all that is available to the public to express their concern and dissatisfaction with a situation. In relation to fuel prices, the protests should be taking place outside the embassies of the US, Russia, Iran and Israel who are the ones causing the problem. Protest aimed at our own government are a waste of time and effort, imho. ✈️🚢🚀💣⛽️💵⬆️ Sorry Badger.. BUT. our government are riding up bare back with the amount of taxes vat and carbon charges on all fuels Of course they could cap the price and help us out but they are just rubbing their hands and laughing at us. They have money for everyone else except their working class irish. Giving 💯 of millions away to other countries and brining in God knows who and putting them up in hotels that aren't viable any more because they have this country r@ped. I fail to see what fuel prices has to do with immigration or is it just a case of target the low hanging fruit as usual? Immigration is a symptom of the waste our so called government engage in, zero regulation & pump billions into it, let alone the billions gone on overseas aid, meanwhile we, the people that they are supposed to actually work for are thrown some bread crumbs in the hope itll keep us happy This nonsense about immigration being unregulated is a myth thrown out by people who have never looked into it but instead latch onto the nonsense they see on FB and YouTube, and shouted by people like McRaper and II/IFP /and the national party. Immigration is actually highly regulated and immigration is what has fueled the economic recovery since covid. Immigrants make a huge contribution to revenue returns in this country. Em ,,,, no.... farmers, hauliers , and essential workers kept this country alive through the pandemic whilst everyone else enjoyed a holiday,,, immigration/ migration only came to the fore at the very end of the pandemic,, at the beggining of the ukraine war, up to then it was managed until mr green bollox put his 7 or 8 language tweet out, that opened the floodgates for our tax money to be spent on spongers, murderers, rapists paedophiles etc etc You're completely wrong in your analysis but don't let facts stop you. "Quote facts to me pls? | |||
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"Cut across the mountains and made it home no problem but listened to the radio for a while to get the mood A farming contractor has 8 tractors He put 6 on the protest and the other 2 had bit and pieces to do so he let them Thats nothing to do with the cost of fuel ....thats him being not good at his job if he's no work for 6 tractors School Bus companies signed contracts when fuel was at a certain price Now they lose less by not working when the schools go back next week They cant put the buses on the road next week when the schools go back Thats going to be a huge issue " Farming contractor has 8 tractors, its springtime, planting is in full swing, he has to pass on the price of fuel to his clients (farmers) he also has to pay those 8 drivers for a very long day this time of year.....farmer grows crop, contractor comes around again in autumn to harvest said crop, again has to pass on price increase to said farmer, farmer sells crop for below cost of production, will said farmer grow any crop again next season and lose more money???? , will said contractor even exist at that stage???? Will said farmer even be able to afford seed/ fertiliser let alone fuel Will consumer be happy with imported product while said farms around them simply rewild???? Farming has changed alot in the past 15 yrs, more than most realise,,, herein lies the crux of it,,, city folk v country folk I think we ALL realise we are being taxed to the hilt, stand together, country, city, all,,, we all gotta eat, we all gotta travel, yet we seem to be happy to give away our tax dollars to all unsundry with a handshake and a yerra your a great nation all the same lads, but when it comes to our own people...... here we are | |||
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"The haulage companies and farmwrs should stop delivering products to the shop shelves and bring the country to a standstill.when essential producta like baby food and medications become of short supply to the shops and pharmacies i think the goverment will have to act. I think the government wont care if they drive into the major cities and towns and block them up. Id going to dublin thwy should spray every government building with slurry and spray it all over o connell street and cause a major clean up " Are you actually suggesting limiting supplies of medication and baby formula? Have you lost your mind? | |||
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"The haulage companies and farmwrs should stop delivering products to the shop shelves and bring the country to a standstill.when essential producta like baby food and medications become of short supply to the shops and pharmacies i think the goverment will have to act. I think the government wont care if they drive into the major cities and towns and block them up. Id going to dublin thwy should spray every government building with slurry and spray it all over o connell street and cause a major clean up " Are you genuinely suggesting that we start to starve babies and deprive critically ill people of medication because we are being impacted by a war that is not of our doing? Have you lost your mind? | |||
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"The haulage companies and farmwrs should stop delivering products to the shop shelves and bring the country to a standstill.when essential producta like baby food and medications become of short supply to the shops and pharmacies i think the goverment will have to act. I think the government wont care if they drive into the major cities and towns and block them up. Id going to dublin thwy should spray every government building with slurry and spray it all over o connell street and cause a major clean up " Wow. I can't even. | |||
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"Looking around social media and there seems to be a creeping in of immigration and getting the government out. Is this what the protest and the blockade is about or is it a hijacking of the fuel protests?" Reading the online posts of one of the guys that seems to be an organiser would show him to be a racist He has lots of anti muslim posts on his profile so yes | |||
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"Looking around social media and there seems to be a creeping in of immigration and getting the government out. Is this what the protest and the blockade is about or is it a hijacking of the fuel protests? Reading the online posts of one of the guys that seems to be an organiser would show him to be a racist He has lots of anti muslim posts on his profile so yes " There's a video doing rounds of a protestor outside gpo doing nazi salute thinking he's funny and clever. It's evident there's far right supporters involved in this protest and their attempting to overthrow an elected government. Blocking ports, fuel depots etc is intentionally putting lives at risk. Where do they think emergency services get fuel exactly? | |||
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"The haulage companies and farmwrs should stop delivering products to the shop shelves and bring the country to a standstill.when essential producta like baby food and medications become of short supply to the shops and pharmacies i think the goverment will have to act. I think the government wont care if they drive into the major cities and towns and block them up. Id going to dublin thwy should spray every government building with slurry and spray it all over o connell street and cause a major clean up " So you want baby's to starve and people to die from not having life saving medication. What sort of sorry excuse for a human being are you? | |||
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"We have a bit of a dilemma here, government needs money to maintain services via taxation (yet are not re investing said surplus back into the expenditure) but taxes too high, there is a solution that we alway seem to forget about, We've had a pretty modest low corporation tax for the past couple of years, a modest increase on them while dropping taxes on fuel at this time could help massively. Just a thought " ..... Sensible suggestion which would be seen as the government taking some positive action which is in their sphere of control. 👏 | |||
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"WOW, there is a lot to unpack in this thread. First of all, this government didn't cause this crisis, this was caused by the Orange troll, an Israeli leader who will do anything to stay in power and a fundamentalist oppressive regime who sponsor terrorism in the region and terrorize their own population. Saying that, this government did drop the ball. A similar situation happened only 4 years ago at the start of the Ukraine war. So we should have had a contingency plan for this. Should the government have put a fuel price cap? Probably. Notwithstanding the deficit this quarter, by the end of the year we usually have a surplus. But ultimately this means our taxes are subsiding the fuel cost, we will still be paying but in an indirect way. Yes the state rightly receives criticism for the way it manages it's expenditure. Some examples have been made above. But tying the immigration issue with this is ridiculous and should be in a separate thread. Most of the taxes and levies on fuel are actually fixed. Only VAT fluctuates along with the price, but sure Farmers and Haulage companies can claim that back, they are after all businesses. They can also get rebates on the carbon tax. I sympathise with their situation but when other businesses get a price shock they usually pass it on to their customers. They don't park their HGVs on the main street and motorways. (I must say I have a little bit of personal bias here. I remember when the Beef farmers were picketing meat processing plants about prices a few years ago. My ex wife was quite intimidated by some of the actions of these guys when going into work) Finally, while we are discussing the damage to our livelihoods. We must not forget that there is a conflict going on and that peoples lives have been lost, including over 160 schoolgirls. Let's have some perspective please. Also what Jaffa said
"Sorry 95% of farmers are not vat registered because they don't earned enough to hit this threshold.. If you can claim the carbon tax back can you please tell me how. And I may be wrong but are the other levies and taxes not on a percentage basis.. And as for passing it on get real please. Milk down from 70cent per ltr to 32 cent per ltr. Beef back from 8.00/kg to 6.70 about 500 euros on an animal lots being slaughtered at the minute and loosing 300 to 500 per head Lamb and pork struggling to get slaughtered.. Grain was dearer in the ninties. And price of products rising by the hour with fuel gouging.. Get real live in the real world for a while joe public has no idea what's involved in farming so you get to eat there times a day. You should educated yourself firsthand and go and work with a farmer for a week or two personally I don't think you'd last the day . I'm sorry for the rant but its frustrating to work so hard and earn nothing with the possibility of loosing everything. | |||
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"WOW, there is a lot to unpack in this thread. First of all, this government didn't cause this crisis, this was caused by the Orange troll, an Israeli leader who will do anything to stay in power and a fundamentalist oppressive regime who sponsor terrorism in the region and terrorize their own population. Saying that, this government did drop the ball. A similar situation happened only 4 years ago at the start of the Ukraine war. So we should have had a contingency plan for this. Should the government have put a fuel price cap? Probably. Notwithstanding the deficit this quarter, by the end of the year we usually have a surplus. But ultimately this means our taxes are subsiding the fuel cost, we will still be paying but in an indirect way. Yes the state rightly receives criticism for the way it manages it's expenditure. Some examples have been made above. But tying the immigration issue with this is ridiculous and should be in a separate thread. Most of the taxes and levies on fuel are actually fixed. Only VAT fluctuates along with the price, but sure Farmers and Haulage companies can claim that back, they are after all businesses. They can also get rebates on the carbon tax. I sympathise with their situation but when other businesses get a price shock they usually pass it on to their customers. They don't park their HGVs on the main street and motorways. (I must say I have a little bit of personal bias here. I remember when the Beef farmers were picketing meat processing plants about prices a few years ago. My ex wife was quite intimidated by some of the actions of these guys when going into work) Finally, while we are discussing the damage to our livelihoods. We must not forget that there is a conflict going on and that peoples lives have been lost, including over 160 schoolgirls. Let's have some perspective please. Also what Jaffa said
Sorry 95% of farmers are not vat registered because they don't earned enough to hit this threshold..
If you can claim the carbon tax back can you please tell me how.
And I may be wrong but are the other levies and taxes not on a percentage basis..
And as for passing it on get real please.
Milk down from 70cent per ltr to 32 cent per ltr.
Beef back from 8.00/kg to 6.70 about 500 euros on an animal lots being slaughtered at the minute and loosing 300 to 500 per head
Lamb and pork struggling to get slaughtered..
Grain was dearer in the ninties.
And price of products rising by the hour with fuel gouging..
Get real live in the real world for a while joe public has no idea what's involved in farming so you get to eat there times a day.
You should educated yourself firsthand and go and work with a farmer for a week or two personally I don't think you'd last the day .
I'm sorry for the rant but its frustrating to work so hard and earn nothing with the possibility of loosing everything. "good man yourself, as I was going to commet on that post also . You said it all there ,grain was worth more in the nineties, correct and right. I'm at grain , beef ,agri contractor , and the profit from any these sectors is a disaster ... Beef last year at 8 euro , but none the richer when I had to buy back replacements. So yeah great commet ,nice to read and thanks | |||
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"Id imagine after the government meets the Irish Road Haulage Association tomorrow they'll announce another drop in the tax and put it down to negotiations with the official people Then the rump of the protestors will go home The gobshites who stay will just want the hassle " The IRHA are about to join the protests because theirs little more than talks happening 🙄 | |||
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