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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I never realised how serious some people take this! anyone got experience's in this

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By *endoverbeckyWoman
over a year ago

dublin

i was a full time sub for a year to an excellent master when i was doing

my trainin, its intense but u hav tobe extremely close with n trusting of ur master. plus he has to know wat he doing and not use da situation solely for his interests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i was a full time sub for a year to an excellent master when i was doing

my trainin, its intense but u hav tobe extremely close with n trusting of ur master. plus he has to know wat he doing and not use da situation solely for his interests."
the whole master sub really does intrieve me dare I say 'fifty shades" I cam hesr the gasps from people.

Obviously trust comes into it

But would worry me to wat extreme does it go or wat I would allow

Permission to come nd go when plesse ain't knocking it interested

Is the sub in control as to wat master takes over? ?????

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By *endoverbeckyWoman
over a year ago

dublin

there can be a pre arranged contract where terms and conditions are outlined n both parties hav a say!n dont mind dat 50 shades of shite dat not an accurate account at all

plus if ur master is any use wat so ever he will want to train his sub but keep her happy at the same time cz its not legal like she'd jst giv up on it if not enjoyin da process n dat be it!

plus a gud master will know dat der no point in just control for control sake it has to be more dan dat it a skill n has to be learned over time

plus it broken into different areas of training i.e disapline, humilation, self control, punishment, restraint etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never realised how serious some people take this! anyone got experience's in this"

what the hell is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never realised how serious some people take this! anyone got experience's in this

what the hell is it?"

oh yea its the s & m thing,i dont really get it myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love it! Very hard to find a right man for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It worries me . I know a girl in her early 20s ( not on this site) who is enslaved to to be honest a gibshite . He is nearly 40 years older and she has had his "mark " tattoed to her hip .

At least it's oblique rather than obvious .

The guy is impotent so it's entirely non sexual but of course she can't have anyone else .

Other things seem ok but u dunno goreans seem to take it all seriously .

Healthy ? I don't think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It worries me . I know a girl in her early 20s ( not on this site) who is enslaved to to be honest a gibshite . He is nearly 40 years older and she has had his "mark " tattoed to her hip .

At least it's oblique rather than obvious .

The guy is impotent so it's entirely non sexual but of course she can't have anyone else .

Other things seem ok but u dunno goreans seem to take it all seriously .

Healthy ? I don't think so "

each to their own and all tht,but i just dont get it!i wudnt want anyone to "own" me,or be anyones slave!i know sum ppl see it as a bit of harmless fun and thts fine but i reckon sum ppl take it too far!

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By *endoverbeckyWoman
over a year ago

dublin

well i was in a 7 year relationship when we started it, n my bf at da time had been trainin under a professional dominatrix for a year to learn da art of bdsm! n our arrangement/control was about 80% sexual 20% other , plus we wer in love n he knew wer da boundaries wer! it was not sumthing dat took over our life but fitted in nicely within it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

ok we all like a bit of fun ! but the extreme of this is frightening,to me it's a form of brain washing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that using the word "Slavery" in today’s society can create a false impression of what gorean really is. Yes it can appear to be extreme but that really is if your not up on what it really means and involves. The gorean lifestyle is quite a nurturing experience for a sub and a true gorean master should be and is always be respectful of the gift that he has been given. yes it does involve control but boundaries will have been discussed and put in place so its not a case of a sub being taking advantage off quite the opposite the life as a sub of a gorean master can be quite fulfilling. I personally have spent the last few years reading gorean books and studying gorean positions etc in the hope of finding a gorean master. The most important element to remember is trust. From personal experiences a few months ago I thought i had found the perfect gorean master that i had been looking for, i took my time allowing trust to be formed and when i had decided i was ready to give myself completely to him i had prepared by purchasing a beautiful gorean rolled collar that i was going to offer him as a symbol that i was ready to submit to his hand. It didn’t work out so well as before i had the opportunity to present this to him lies and disrespectfulness had taken over and i guess he wasn’t the true gorean master that i had been searching for.

All i can say is that if one is considering beginning a journey on the gorean road make sure you read as much as you can before you decide if its the right lifestyle change for you. Its not for everyone and just make sure that you choose your master wisely.

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By *endoverbeckyWoman
over a year ago

dublin


"I think that using the word "Slavery" in today’s society can create a false impression of what gorean really is. Yes it can appear to be extreme but that really is if your not up on what it really means and involves. The gorean lifestyle is quite a nurturing experience for a sub and a true gorean master should be and is always be respectful of the gift that he has been given. yes it does involve control but boundaries will have been discussed and put in place so its not a case of a sub being taking advantage off quite the opposite the life as a sub of a gorean master can be quite fulfilling. I personally have spent the last few years reading gorean books and studying gorean positions etc in the hope of finding a gorean master. The most important element to remember is trust. From personal experiences a few months ago I thought i had found the perfect gorean master that i had been looking for, i took my time allowing trust to be formed and when i had decided i was ready to give myself completely to him i had prepared by purchasing a beautiful gorean rolled collar that i was going to offer him as a symbol that i was ready to submit to his hand. It didn’t work out so well as before i had the opportunity to present this to him lies and disrespectfulness had taken over and i guess he wasn’t the true gorean master that i had been searching for.

All i can say is that if one is considering beginning a journey on the gorean road make sure you read as much as you can before you decide if its the right lifestyle change for you. Its not for everyone and just make sure that you choose your master wisely.

"

i agree, very well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that using the word "Slavery" in today’s society can create a false impression of what gorean really is. Yes it can appear to be extreme but that really is if your not up on what it really means and involves. The gorean lifestyle is quite a nurturing experience for a sub and a true gorean master should be and is always be respectful of the gift that he has been given. yes it does involve control but boundaries will have been discussed and put in place so its not a case of a sub being taking advantage off quite the opposite the life as a sub of a gorean master can be quite fulfilling. I personally have spent the last few years reading gorean books and studying gorean positions etc in the hope of finding a gorean master. The most important element to remember is trust. From personal experiences a few months ago I thought i had found the perfect gorean master that i had been looking for, i took my time allowing trust to be formed and when i had decided i was ready to give myself completely to him i had prepared by purchasing a beautiful gorean rolled collar that i was going to offer him as a symbol that i was ready to submit to his hand. It didn’t work out so well as before i had the opportunity to present this to him lies and disrespectfulness had taken over and i guess he wasn’t the true gorean master that i had been searching for.

All i can say is that if one is considering beginning a journey on the gorean road make sure you read as much as you can before you decide if its the right lifestyle change for you. Its not for everyone and just make sure that you choose your master wisely.

"

Incredibly well put!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think that using the word "Slavery" in today’s society can create a false impression of what gorean really is. Yes it can appear to be extreme but that really is if your not up on what it really means and involves. The gorean lifestyle is quite a nurturing experience for a sub and a true gorean master should be and is always be respectful of the gift that he has been given. yes it does involve control but boundaries will have been discussed and put in place so its not a case of a sub being taking advantage off quite the opposite the life as a sub of a gorean master can be quite fulfilling. I personally have spent the last few years reading gorean books and studying gorean positions etc in the hope of finding a gorean master. The most important element to remember is trust. From personal experiences a few months ago I thought i had found the perfect gorean master that i had been looking for, i took my time allowing trust to be formed and when i had decided i was ready to give myself completely to him i had prepared by purchasing a beautiful gorean rolled collar that i was going to offer him as a symbol that i was ready to submit to his hand. It didn’t work out so well as before i had the opportunity to present this to him lies and disrespectfulness had taken over and i guess he wasn’t the true gorean master that i had been searching for.

All i can say is that if one is considering beginning a journey on the gorean road make sure you read as much as you can before you decide if its the right lifestyle change for you. Its not for everyone and just make sure that you choose your master wisely.

"
extremely well written,i used the term "gorean slavery" as i had only known it as that,"gorean lifestyle" sounds more acceptable.Correct me if I'm wrong but this all came from a fictional novel & now is being portrayed as sometype of ancient art.Now don't get me wrong I do believe in live& let live.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Is it from North gorea or South gorea?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is it from North gorea or South gorea? "

don't you try to start another world war

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Is it from North gorea or South gorea?

don't you try to start another world war"

I was terrified that the North would nuke the South. That would've been Seoul destroying!

Apologies for the slight diversion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes you are correct Gor is a work of fiction I would not agree with you when you say, "its being portrayed as some type of ancient art". It’s far from it, it’s like reading a piece of poetry or lyrics in a song or looking at a peace of art. In the past when I have read these books I have see the hidden meaning and the symbolization of certain elements such as "the collar" or "the Nadu" position. For most the collar would be a symbol of ownership or slavery but lets be honest here slavery is without a choice, submission is the choice of the individual who as I have mentioned in my original post has through trust given every inch of their being to their master freely. For me the collar is a bold symbol of trust for a sub and acceptance of submission for a master. However this is just my interpretation. Submission is not just taken for granted it is a prized possession and a true Gorean master will protect and care for it as if it was his own.

To submit is not a sign of weakness but a sign of the strength that lies within. A master can be strong in body and mind but also the sub offers her master a different kind of strength through submission. If you look at certain groups through history the comparison is there. Men were the protectors of their women, strong in mind body and soul. Women did everything in their power to please them in every way possible and developed new ways of pleasing their men through guidance from them. A master is nothing without a good submissive just like a man is nothing without a good women and the same came be said for the opposite a submissive is nothing without a fair and true master and every woman needs a good man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that using the word "Slavery" in today’s society can create a false impression of what gorean really is. Yes it can appear to be extreme but that really is if your not up on what it really means and involves. The gorean lifestyle is quite a nurturing experience for a sub and a true gorean master should be and is always be respectful of the gift that he has been given. yes it does involve control but boundaries will have been discussed and put in place so its not a case of a sub being taking advantage off quite the opposite the life as a sub of a gorean master can be quite fulfilling. I personally have spent the last few years reading gorean books and studying gorean positions etc in the hope of finding a gorean master. The most important element to remember is trust. From personal experiences a few months ago I thought i had found the perfect gorean master that i had been looking for, i took my time allowing trust to be formed and when i had decided i was ready to give myself completely to him i had prepared by purchasing a beautiful gorean rolled collar that i was going to offer him as a symbol that i was ready to submit to his hand. It didn’t work out so well as before i had the opportunity to present this to him lies and disrespectfulness had taken over and i guess he wasn’t the true gorean master that i had been searching for.

All i can say is that if one is considering beginning a journey on the gorean road make sure you read as much as you can before you decide if its the right lifestyle change for you. Its not for everyone and just make sure that you choose your master wisely.

i agree, very well said"

well cant have folks going around with the wrong idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes you are correct Gor is a work of fiction I would not agree with you when you say, "its being portrayed as some type of ancient art". It’s far from it, it’s like reading a piece of poetry or lyrics in a song or looking at a peace of art. In the past when I have read these books I have see the hidden meaning and the symbolization of certain elements such as "the collar" or "the Nadu" position. For most the collar would be a symbol of ownership or slavery but lets be honest here slavery is without a choice, submission is the choice of the individual who as I have mentioned in my original post has through trust given every inch of their being to their master freely. For me the collar is a bold symbol of trust for a sub and acceptance of submission for a master. However this is just my interpretation. Submission is not just taken for granted it is a prized possession and a true Gorean master will protect and care for it as if it was his own.

To submit is not a sign of weakness but a sign of the strength that lies within. A master can be strong in body and mind but also the sub offers her master a different kind of strength through submission. If you look at certain groups through history the comparison is there. Men were the protectors of their women, strong in mind body and soul. Women did everything in their power to please them in every way possible and developed new ways of pleasing their men through guidance from them. A master is nothing without a good submissive just like a man is nothing without a good women and the same came be said for the opposite a submissive is nothing without a fair and true master and every woman needs a good man.

"

I read this and reached for the collar that once proudly sat around my throat locked on.. a symbol of my ownership, my submission but mostly of how highly prized I was to my master.

I am a submissive now to a good dominant but I did read this and shed a tear. The connection between master and slave so symbiotic..

what a wonderful description of something that I am proud to have experienced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes you are correct Gor is a work of fiction I would not agree with you when you say, "its being portrayed as some type of ancient art". It’s far from it, it’s like reading a piece of poetry or lyrics in a song or looking at a peace of art. In the past when I have read these books I have see the hidden meaning and the symbolization of certain elements such as "the collar" or "the Nadu" position. For most the collar would be a symbol of ownership or slavery but lets be honest here slavery is without a choice, submission is the choice of the individual who as I have mentioned in my original post has through trust given every inch of their being to their master freely. For me the collar is a bold symbol of trust for a sub and acceptance of submission for a master. However this is just my interpretation. Submission is not just taken for granted it is a prized possession and a true Gorean master will protect and care for it as if it was his own.

To submit is not a sign of weakness but a sign of the strength that lies within. A master can be strong in body and mind but also the sub offers her master a different kind of strength through submission. If you look at certain groups through history the comparison is there. Men were the protectors of their women, strong in mind body and soul. Women did everything in their power to please them in every way possible and developed new ways of pleasing their men through guidance from them. A master is nothing without a good submissive just like a man is nothing without a good women and the same came be said for the opposite a submissive is nothing without a fair and true master and every woman needs a good man.

I read this and reached for the collar that once proudly sat around my throat locked on.. a symbol of my ownership, my submission but mostly of how highly prized I was to my master.

I am a submissive now to a good dominant but I did read this and shed a tear. The connection between master and slave so symbiotic..

what a wonderful description of something that I am proud to have experienced.

"

I just spoke from my heart Cali... its good to know someone else understands my thoughts

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By *azmc7Man
over a year ago

city

Thumbs up nicely sayed

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By *hiteWillow01Woman
over a year ago

near you

I'm not a Kajira but I am a slave my Sir(ex) was training me in Gorean ways as its the standards and beauty and way of life I love..

Exquisite beauty and absolute obedience are my dutys be this girl in service or not

Kind regards Masters,Mistresses

Tal salves

Cher

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a Kajira but I am a slave my Sir(ex) was training me in Gorean ways as its the standards and beauty and way of life I love..

Exquisite beauty and absolute obedience are my dutys be this girl in service or not

Kind regards Masters,Mistresses

Tal salves

Cher "

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

What does tal salves mean?

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By *hiteWillow01Woman
over a year ago

near you

My appoligy a typo tal is a way to greet a Gorean salve...I spelt slave incorrect again my deepest appoligy

Cher

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Oh. Cool. Consider me enlightened

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"My appoligy a typo tal is a way to greet a Gorean salve...I spelt slave incorrect again my deepest appoligy

Cher "

In my understanding Tal is a greeting yes

But there are conditions governing who may greet who in this way

Certainly a slave may greet another salve with Tal but not a Free Person,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My appoligy a typo tal is a way to greet a Gorean salve...I spelt slave incorrect again my deepest appoligy

Cher

In my understanding Tal is a greeting yes

But there are conditions governing who may greet who in this way

Certainly a slave may greet another salve with Tal but not a Free Person,

"

This is very true

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By *hiteWillow01Woman
over a year ago

near you

Fully agree a greeting from one slave to another is tal but to a free person I greet with "greetings Master/Mistress"

Cher

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a creature is naturally genetically

superior to another, then it is

considered fitting and proper that such

a creature should dominate other, less

developed creatures. In regards to

human beings, it is understood that the stronger and/or more intelligent

members of the race should be allowed

to assume their rightful place in

command of their inferiors. In regard to

male/female sexual relations, it is

therefore the right of the male, who is genetically predisposed for physical

dominance, to control the physical

aspects of his relationship to the

female.

Subjugation of the Weak: This principle

acts as the inverse to the tenet

described above. In order that the race

may grow stronger, it is necessary that

the weaker and lesser adaptive

elements of Gorean society be diminished and controlled. Warfare and

slavery are two methods by which this

end is accomplished."

From What is the Philosophy of Gor? by Marcus of Ar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The struggle for the daily livelihood

leaves behind in the ruck everything

that is weak or diseased or wavering;

while the fight of the male to possess

the female gives to the strongest the

right, or at least, the possibility to propagate its kind. And this struggle is a

means of furthering the health and

powers of resistance in the species.

Thus it is one of the causes underlying

the process of development towards a

higher quality of being.

Therefore a corrective measure in

favour of the better quality must

intervene. Nature supplies this by

establishing rigorous conditions of life

to which the weaker will have to submit

and will thereby be numerically restricted; but even that portion which

survives cannot indiscriminately

multiply, for here a new and rigorous

selection takes place, according to

strength and health."

From Mein Kampf, Vol I, Chapter 11, "Race and People" by Adolf Hitler

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mein Kampf was the book Ian Brady gave to Myra Hindley to read over and over again. She was his sub and was besotted. What a sick twist that ended up. Hitler was a wee dote too.

Like that Spiderman saying 'with great power comes great responsibility'

Not my bag I'm afraid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hhmmmm

Tal and greetings,

I've been trying real hard to not reply to this thread. But now I think things are going a bit far...

Gorean philosophies are not based on anything hitler said. They are based on the books of Gor written by John Norman. They are works of fiction that outline a different world and society.

The philosophies have been taken on by some people (literally and loosely) and incorporated into their lives.

I've been exposed to some of the books and I agree with many if the things mentioned in there.

I've also been exposed to Catholicism, Mormonism, Buddhism and hedonism and agreed with teachings and beliefs there too.

It doesn't make it wrong or right it's all a personal choice. All things in extreme are hard to accept.. for non-believers or partakers.

Religion, sexual orientation, personal beliefs are all yours, take them as far or as shallow as you like, but allow others to enjoy theirs with out judgement.

Ok rant over,

(Former collared kajira)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hhmmmm

Tal and greetings,

I've been trying real hard to not reply to this thread. But now I think things are going a bit far...

Gorean philosophies are not based on anything hitler said. They are based on the books of Gor written by John Norman. They are works of fiction that outline a different world and society.

The philosophies have been taken on by some people (literally and loosely) and incorporated into their lives.

I've been exposed to some of the books and I agree with many if the things mentioned in there.

I've also been exposed to Catholicism, Mormonism, Buddhism and hedonism and agreed with teachings and beliefs there too.

It doesn't make it wrong or right it's all a personal choice. All things in extreme are hard to accept.. for non-believers or partakers.

Religion, sexual orientation, personal beliefs are all yours, take them as far or as shallow as you like, but allow others to enjoy theirs with out judgement.

Ok rant over,

(Former collared kajira)

"

well said, .live and let live

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"Hhmmmm

Tal and greetings,

I've been trying real hard to not reply to this thread. But now I think things are going a bit far...

Gorean philosophies are not based on anything hitler said. They are based on the books of Gor written by John Norman. They are works of fiction that outline a different world and society.

The philosophies have been taken on by some people (literally and loosely) and incorporated into their lives.

I've been exposed to some of the books and I agree with many if the things mentioned in there.

I've also been exposed to Catholicism, Mormonism, Buddhism and hedonism and agreed with teachings and beliefs there too.

It doesn't make it wrong or right it's all a personal choice. All things in extreme are hard to accept.. for non-believers or partakers.

Religion, sexual orientation, personal beliefs are all yours, take them as far or as shallow as you like, but allow others to enjoy theirs with out judgement.

Ok rant over,

(Former collared kajira)

"

Well said links

Said with insight and passion

I think if we are to enjoy sexuality we should investigate and understand as much as possible

Then again maybe having sex with the light on is kinky for some

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

With the price of electricity these days, sex with the lights on is thoroughly decadent

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry

Light some candles then so the candlelight flickers over the body drawing a path to be followed by the tounge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hhmmmm

Tal and greetings,

I've been trying real hard to not reply to this thread. But now I think things are going a bit far...

Gorean philosophies are not based on anything hitler said. They are based on the books of Gor written by John Norman. They are works of fiction that outline a different world and society.

The philosophies have been taken on by some people (literally and loosely) and incorporated into their lives.

I've been exposed to some of the books and I agree with many if the things mentioned in there.

I've also been exposed to Catholicism, Mormonism, Buddhism and hedonism and agreed with teachings and beliefs there too.

It doesn't make it wrong or right it's all a personal choice. All things in extreme are hard to accept.. for non-believers or partakers.

Religion, sexual orientation, personal beliefs are all yours, take them as far or as shallow as you like, but allow others to enjoy theirs with out judgement.

Ok rant over,

(Former collared kajira)

"

Gorean philosophies are based on a series of books with strong facist overtones. From a kink point of view, if people want to do a Max Mosely on it, I have no beef with that. But there's a big difference between bedroom (or dungeon or carpark) pursuits and how you choose to live your life.

I'm not accusing Goreans of being nazis, but the books that have inspired the whole caboodle have a fairly odious origin.

Can any one with experience of it explain to me the difference between D/s stuff and a Gorean lifestyle?

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry

Google is your friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Google is your friend "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Google is your friend "

I'd rather read what people's first hand experiences are, and possibly ask them questions about that, as opposed to passively consuming what's deemed to be most relevant by the ikkle google spiders.

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"Google is your friend

I'd rather read what people's first hand experiences are, and possibly ask them questions about that, as opposed to passively consuming what's deemed to be most relevant by the ikkle google spiders."

Given your previous posts that may be something that people will be unwilling to do.

Google's ikkle spiders are at your command if you command them correctly

Do a little leg work maybe then ask

" There is a principal designed to keep a man in everlasting darkness.

That is the principle of condemnation without prior investigation"

Herbst Spence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've done some leg work and have arrived at some conclusions. But as Wayne Rooney said, the unexamined life is not worth living. So I'd welcome someone with experience correcting my conclusions.

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"I've done some leg work and have arrived at some conclusions. But as Wayne Rooney said, the unexamined life is not worth living. So I'd welcome someone with experience correcting my conclusions."

If your conclusions are reflected in the initial tone or nuance of your posts then I think links may have already spoken to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've done some leg work and have arrived at some conclusions. But as Wayne Rooney said, the unexamined life is not worth living. So I'd welcome someone with experience correcting my conclusions.

If your conclusions are reflected in the initial tone or nuance of your posts then I think links may have already spoken to that.

"

Far be it from to put words into Links' mouth but I thought she'd that peoples preferences are peoples preferences, live and let live essentially. That she was at least vaguely familiar with Gorean philosophy and had found many useful things to take from it.

I'm curious as to how people became involved in it in the first place, the extent to which they became involved in it and their experiences while involved. I'm aware I Godwin'd myself straight off the bat, and people who have an affinity with Gorean practices may not want to engage with someone who's apparently quite hostile to them. But it's the philosophy of it and its origins that I find questionable, and I'm genuinely curious as to how the practice of it all compares to the theory.

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"I've done some leg work and have arrived at some conclusions. But as Wayne Rooney said, the unexamined life is not worth living. So I'd welcome someone with experience correcting my conclusions.

If your conclusions are reflected in the initial tone or nuance of your posts then I think links may have already spoken to that.

Far be it from to put words into Links' mouth but I thought she'd that peoples preferences are peoples preferences, live and let live essentially. That she was at least vaguely familiar with Gorean philosophy and had found many useful things to take from it.

I'm curious as to how people became involved in it in the first place, the extent to which they became involved in it and their experiences while involved. I'm aware I Godwin'd myself straight off the bat, and people who have an affinity with Gorean practices may not want to engage with someone who's apparently quite hostile to them. But it's the philosophy of it and its origins that I find questionable, and I'm genuinely curious as to how the practice of it all compares to the theory."

I really do think you should read fully what links said. It seems to me that you may not have taken on board the content

As to you Godwin'ing yourself yes you seemed to lol.

But in recognising and seeing that perhaps you will find people willing to engage

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry

As an aside from this discussion I do have yo say I am not a practitioner of Goran ways.

I have and do play in a Dom role when and a the levels wanted and agreed within play.

It is however not the only way I play or like to.

Human sexuality is a broad church and interesting to explore

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over a year ago

How did this topic get so fucked up along the way

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