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By *my Crosse OP   TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Limerick

I was in the UK a few months back and something caught my eye which has been bugging me ever since.

It was a male dominated trip so I was not dressed but I decided to go for a walk alone in Liverpool City the first day and Manchester the second day. I was blown away with how many CDs who were out and about shopping, having lunch, drinks etc and not one bit of bother to them and not anyone that I saw took any heed on them, it was seemed the norm to them which is fantastic.

Then back to Ireland I came. There was a girl ahead of me on the plane who I saw getting her seat and she had a skirt on half way down thighs and she looked pretty and look it was a skirt that's it just casual wear. Getting off the plane i overheard two middle aged women behind me sniggering and passing comment that she forgot her pants all this kind of thing. It absolutely boiled my blood.

To me being a CD at the moment in Ireland it is actually dangerous and I have not gone out in public in Ireland because of this. Nasty comments and judging and sniggering is all you hear people get in Ireland. I would not dream of going to Linerick, Cork Dublin Galway dressed its actually scarey.

Is Ireland still the old Catholic church ruling where everyone looks down their nose and feel they have to pass comment to something that is a bit west of normal. I cannot see this changing anytime soon and feel it's backwards we are going as a country.

I know it's a very small issue in the greater scheme of things but it's something that has been niggling at me recently and got me thinking.

Sorry for the rant !!!!!!!

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By *og-ManMan
4 weeks ago

somewhere

Dont think the Catholic church is the problem

Think scumbags will be scumbags and most dont go to church anyway

I don't like my adult kids going into Dublin city centre anyway so its not just you

Do you know any safe venues that you can go to and dress when you get there

I know of DV8 in Dublin and all socials mentioned on the forums are friendly spaces for you

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By *my Crosse OP   TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Limerick

Not to say it's the Church rulling just we as a nation are backwards for anything out of the norm in society.

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By *og-ManMan
4 weeks ago

somewhere


"Not to say it's the Church rulling just we as a nation are backwards for anything out of the norm in society.

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Ive never had to walk in your shows but I also think the younger generation is definitely different to older age groups and more open to those that society seems as outside the norm

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By *allyCD123TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Wexford

I feel your frustration Amy I think the irish have a long way to go to be what we would consider tolerant. We can be pass remarkable and great begrudgers and love nothing better than dragging people down for the craic. Whats intresting about your post is that it was two older woman remarking on a younger woman imagin if that had been two older men!! I dont go out but couldnt imagine going to my nearest large town without it getting back and ending up being the talk if the town which is very very sad.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
4 weeks ago

Lucan

Back in rural Leitrim when I was growing up they used to talk alt a week known crossdresser who ran a boarding house in the 1920s. He wore dresses and make up and referred to himself by a woman's name. His boarding house was apparently quite busy and for the most part nobody paid much heed to him. Mind you, 50 years later they were still talking about it so there's that.

I think we've made vast strides since the seventies and eighties as regards acceptance of difference but obviously we have still some way to go before difference isn't noticed.

There's certainly some pushback against such acceptance coming from the toxic masculinity fans to be found on FB but we're still much more tolerant as a society than we used to be. Less and less people care about what others are doing with their penises these days.

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By *my Crosse OP   TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Limerick

Yeah its not a if the shoes were on different feet type of conversation im opening up just seeing the freedom elsewhere where no one is looking to boast or flaunt anything it's just they can be in their own little bubble and that's that.

I remember in Manchester a few years ago I dressed up. Had to drink a bottle of wine for courage and I went to the shop just up the road dressed. Let me tell you I was in bits shaking etc with nerves. Got my bits to the checkout and the woman at the till I don't think she even noticed. It just felt normal. I sat on a bench world went by and I dont think anyone that saw even cared or took heed. That's where us CDs need the world to be but it's lifetimes away

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By *endi LiquorTV/TS
4 weeks ago

newry


"Yeah its not a if the shoes were on different feet type of conversation im opening up just seeing the freedom elsewhere where no one is looking to boast or flaunt anything it's just they can be in their own little bubble and that's that.

I remember in Manchester a few years ago I dressed up. Had to drink a bottle of wine for courage and I went to the shop just up the road dressed. Let me tell you I was in bits shaking etc with nerves. Got my bits to the checkout and the woman at the till I don't think she even noticed. It just felt normal. I sat on a bench world went by and I dont think anyone that saw even cared or took heed. That's where us CDs need the world to be but it's lifetimes away"

Manchester is a great city for dressing, love canal street.

Have been many times.

Unfortunately compared to the uk and swinging, crossdressing etc. Ireland is still very backwards.

Though it's come along way with things, its still night and day compared to the uk.

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By *my Crosse OP   TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Limerick

Exactly the point im trying to make. At the end of the day it's no one's business and what harm of it.

In the UK I have seen 3 CDs come into a restaurant get a table have coffees and lunch together and I can genuinely say that I do not think the girl serving the table just went about her job and her business and what she had to do and they had a great hour there chatting.

In Ireland im not sure they get a table or even get served it's chalk and cheese comparison.

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By *obroyman17Man
4 weeks ago

I think if you choose carefully around Dublin you’d be fine, plenty of bars are totally accepting. But I do agree with the main point, it’s not accepted as being the norm which is vvvv frustrating. Imagine being a guy with a trans g/f is even more difficult if not near impossible here in Ireland. Maybe as our society keeps evolving it will be more accepting

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By *tesset69TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Belfast/North Down

Try living North of the border, full of homophobia nd bashers.

Its like a prison.

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By *om TangoMan
4 weeks ago

aughnacloy monaghan area

There is at least 1 bar/club in Belfast for crossdressers.

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By *rsandthecameramanCouple
4 weeks ago

City

Shame that people can’t just be themselves, and be left alone. Nothing about disrespect, but kindly respect others and mind one’s own business. I would bet, a percentage of assholes who disrespect others, when with their friends, probably go home and become someone else.

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By *hauna.HennTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Dundrum

If you're an active CD, check out the Crossdressing Ireland group on FB. I hate FB with a passion, but it's the only game in town for this community unfortunately. Membership is fairly carefully restricted to those who are actually active. It provides great emotional and practical peer support.

You'll see that there are girls going out, individually and in groups, lunches, dinners, drinks. It's very empowering and encouraging to see what others get up to.

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By *hauna.HennTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Dundrum


"Try living North of the border, full of homophobia nd bashers.

Its like a prison."

I saw a lovely story a couple of months back from two CDs out for dinner in Belfast who found that their bill had been paid by some at random, as a nice show of support.

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By *llthewaysMan
4 weeks ago

Kildare/Dublin

Ireland is sadly not as forward thinking as a people as we'd like. But things are slowly improving and I am so glad to see safe spaces available now.

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By *my Crosse OP   TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Limerick

I understand the safe places which don't get me wrong but what bugs me is it should be a safe society and public spaces etc..

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By *llthewaysMan
4 weeks ago

Kildare/Dublin


"I understand the safe places which don't get me wrong but what bugs me is it should be a safe society and public spaces etc.."

Oh I 100% agree.

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By *ACOLCouple
4 weeks ago

Limerick

Amy you aren't wrong, I have a friend who offer a CD make over but one of the things she offers is a 2hr outing where they will go to either lunch/dinner or even the pub. I believe it is the little things, because people will talk regardless what you are, it is how you handle it, so being able to be fully dressed with someone who understands you I found it so empowering.

Lina.

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By *mooth 55Man
4 weeks ago

seaside

Its quite a pity, CD/TV can't be more open as there a some quite beauties here.....

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By *jsarecoolTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Dublin

Hi Amy

I go out to Dublin City and surrounding areas a lot and never have any issues. Obviously I stay away from north of the Liffey at night but I’d stay away from there at night anyway.

I’ve been Joanne all my life. I’ve always dressed age appropriate, so I don’t attract attention.

I do get people looking at me but are they just looking at another lady ? I’m looking at them looking lol.

Just get out there and be yourself. Life is too short.

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By *affronGentMan
4 weeks ago

Kilkenny

You look absolutely gorgeous Joanne.. no wonder why people admire you out in the city and turn around for you. I hope and would love to see you in the city and tell you how beautiful you are looking.

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By *OTSOSUBTLEMan
4 weeks ago

DUBLIN

I think Ireland has more to worry about than cross-dressing. Ireland is certainly a more tolerant country. Lucy Kennedy did a TV programme about kink lifestyle a while back. There was a group of chaps who dressed in dog masks and pretended to be canines. I think crossdressing is pretty tame compared to that. Or am I being judgemnetal?

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By *eggytvaliceTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Dromore

At least Dublin is alot more accepting than up here in Belfast or any of the north. Manchester is amazing been a few times shopping and getting the tram to the the Trafford centre and absolutely No1 batted an eyelid. And like others have said canal street is outstanding day and night. And this weekend for sparkle is will be bouncing

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