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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. " No he's not... | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" The how is pretty easy. We all have the right to define ourselves however we like. 🤷🏻♀️ | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. " You are quite literally judging that person's right to define themselves. | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. You are quite literally judging that person's right to define themselves." 100%. | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? " Probably best to put the shovel down now  | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... " Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? " Nobody has a right to know who anybody had sex with before them Why should they | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? Probably best to put the shovel down now "Why do women have a right to know if he had sex with anyone of any gender... If he's a safe player, uses condoms, tests on the regular what's the problem? I'm getting transphobic, biphobic and homophobic vibes here. Is this the one where gay people are 'durty'? | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? Probably best to put the shovel down now
Why do women have a right to know if he had sex with anyone of any gender...
If he's a safe player, uses condoms, tests on the regular what's the problem?
I'm getting transphobic, biphobic and homophobic vibes here. Is this the one where gay people are 'durty'?
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? Probably best to put the shovel down now
Why do women have a right to know if he had sex with anyone of any gender...
If he's a safe player, uses condoms, tests on the regular what's the problem?
I'm getting transphobic, biphobic and homophobic vibes here. Is this the one where gay people are 'durty'?
Just for clarity, that wasn't aimed at me, right?
You quoted my comment is all "100% not aimed at you. Mis-hit the button ❤️ 🌈 | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? Probably best to put the shovel down now
Why do women have a right to know if he had sex with anyone of any gender...
If he's a safe player, uses condoms, tests on the regular what's the problem?
I'm getting transphobic, biphobic and homophobic vibes here. Is this the one where gay people are 'durty'?
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" Ya it's just called being delusional let them at it we don't care | |||
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"No, absolutely no issue with gay people I have friends who are, I’m saying if a man has sex with another person who has a penis he can’t call himself straight" Ok, let's tweak the goalposts a bit. Try to walk you to the point. What if they had their penis removed, been on hormones for years, natural boobs, look, feel and identify as a woman? If you didn't know even 1% that they used to be a man. Is that gay? | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" Why should you care what others do? Seems a strange preoccupation. If that's how they see themselves then fine. | |||
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"Many of you ought to the UK supreme court's beautiful ruling in April. Just a shame it took three supreme court justices to state the bloody obvious. "The ruling that was financed by terfs and has led to a roll back in human rights of trans women and trans guys and actually all cis women as well, as women who don't wear skirts or look feminine enough may be a threat to society. Even though the biggest threat to any woman is the monster she lives with. Domestic abuse kills and harms more women than a transwoman with a penis. | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? Probably best to put the shovel down now "Sounds like he was turned down by a TV and cant handle tbe rejection or had sex with TV and is butt sore and has some mental bloc of gay shame | |||
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"My curiosity go the better of me as I know someone who says he is straight but has had intercourse with a TV. This person is also having intercourse with multiple women who he says don’t know he has been with a TV. Should they not have the right to know? Why hide it then? " That’s exactly my issue. Eat what you like, but if you’re listed as straight then I’d assume you don’t have sex with a TV (which I believe is a man). If not for some of their verifications I wouldn’t know until meeting for a social (as it’ll eventually come up), at which time my time has been wasted 🤷🏽♀️ I’m into bi-men, but won’t meet men who have sex with a TV. Just a personal preference. | |||
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"I don't get it either, if you've met a TS or TV or a gay guy and openly give a verification then change your status to Bi curious or Bi sexual. This is why straight guys gets asked if they are Fab straight. " I agree. Be open about it if it’s perfectly ok to have sex with whoever you want. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" I think the key point is that such individuals are attracted to the female form, which is how a well presented TV/TS appears. The attached genitalia can be considered a separate matter, to be dealt with in the context of an attracted and motivated pair of participants. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! I think the key point is that such individuals are attracted to the female form, which is how a well presented TV/TS appears. The attached genitalia can be considered a separate matter, to be dealt with in the context of an attracted and motivated pair of participants. " Fair point. I’d never thought about it from that perspective 😁 | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" Question for you. How does it affect you in any way shape or form which kind of person another has sex with and their sexuality in general? | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬" You'd have sex with men who have sex with other men just not men who have had sex with tv's? What about ts or post-op transfem? Not criticising. Just wondering. I'm bisexual, but have no emotional attachment to men. A friend put that down as bisexuality not bi-emotional. Had a forum disagreement with a guy years ago that meeting other men, in my opinion, meant bisexual. He disagreed. Now she's trans and happy out. And if you think there's only gay, bi or hetero.... there's 30 different types on another site I can't mention. I suppose pansexual describes me best; "Pansexuality is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people of all genders, or regardless of their sex or gender identity.". | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬" Surely if you can openly give a verification then it's obvious you're no longer in the closet. | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬" Ahh go on we haven't had a good crucifixion since Easter | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬 You'd have sex with men who have sex with other men just not men who have had sex with tv's? What about ts or post-op transfem? Not criticising. Just wondering. I'm bisexual, but have no emotional attachment to men. A friend put that down as bisexuality not bi-emotional. Had a forum disagreement with a guy years ago that meeting other men, in my opinion, meant bisexual. He disagreed. Now she's trans and happy out. And if you think there's only gay, bi or hetero.... there's 30 different types on another site I can't mention. I suppose pansexual describes me best; "Pansexuality is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people of all genders, or regardless of their sex or gender identity.". " My husband is asexual. I know loads about different genders, etc. Just a preference I suppose. Not sure I’ve any rational explanation. | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬 Surely if you can openly give a verification then it's obvious you're no longer in the closet. " One would think it 🤷🏽♀️ | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬 Ahh go on we haven't had a good crucifixion since Easter " Poking the bear 😂 | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse." The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse." Nope. Ye old idea. There are sides, not bottoms, tops or verse. Oral only. Not all gay/bi sex is anal. For many reasons. | |||
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"And to be clear, I’ve plenty of friends who are gay and also work with TS people. I don’t see anyone as more or less deserving of the same rights as me. At the end of the day we’re all people. But from a sexual perspective, I don’t want to have sex with men who have sex with TV/TS. I’ve other preferences as well, but best I don’t voice them here as I’d be crucified 😬 You'd have sex with men who have sex with other men just not men who have had sex with tv's? What about ts or post-op transfem? Not criticising. Just wondering. I'm bisexual, but have no emotional attachment to men. A friend put that down as bisexuality not bi-emotional. Had a forum disagreement with a guy years ago that meeting other men, in my opinion, meant bisexual. He disagreed. Now she's trans and happy out. And if you think there's only gay, bi or hetero.... there's 30 different types on another site I can't mention. I suppose pansexual describes me best; "Pansexuality is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people of all genders, or regardless of their sex or gender identity.". My husband is asexual. I know loads about different genders, etc. Just a preference I suppose. Not sure I’ve any rational explanation. " That's fair Gata
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. " It's a free country and no one cares or should care what 2 consenting adults get up to together but if your sucking cock or taking/giving it up the bum your bi sexual at a minium. That's not judging just stating a fact. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. It's a free country and no one cares or should care what 2 consenting adults get up to together but if your sucking cock or taking/giving it up the bum your bi sexual at a minium. That's not judging just stating a fact. " That would be my understanding as well. | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. " You’re literally judging with your opening statement ….. I always tell anyone it’s how you view sexuality! It’s very different Personally they are still straight men if anything they are just horny lads who need looking after!! Just because someone has a fetish or kink it dues by define who they are | |||
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"So what each to their own what does it matter. Sexual fantasises to me does not define straight or gay or bi or anything really. I often see this kind of rubbish on the forums and I often think imagine there is someone looking at a guys profile to see if they met a CD and have straight on their profile i can never understand it. Well said. , agree 💯 " | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... " What level of transfem? What about full transition, on hormones who have legally changed their gender? Modern thinking is that yes, he is straight. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" well seeing as it's none of your business what they call themselves it shouldn't bother you | |||
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"Insert the last time I had sex with a TV I got fucked out of Harvey Norman joke here " That's funny...But selling toasters as ' The last bath bomb you'll ever need' didn't go well 🤣🤣 | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment " no he's not no matter what nip and tuck he gets his still a man | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment no he's not no matter what nip and tuck he gets his still a man " It goes way beyond the physical and how someone presents but I know I'm wasting my time trying to explain | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. " I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight   | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment no he's not no matter what nip and tuck he gets his still a man It goes way beyond the physical and how someone presents but I know I'm wasting my time trying to explain " there is no explain to do to be honest | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment no he's not no matter what nip and tuck he gets his still a man It goes way beyond the physical and how someone presents but I know I'm wasting my time trying to explain there is no explain to do to be honest " Whatever. My lived experience says otherwise. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. No he's not... Trans women are women. You show your true colours with that comment no he's not no matter what nip and tuck he gets his still a man It goes way beyond the physical and how someone presents but I know I'm wasting my time trying to explain there is no explain to do to be honest Whatever. My lived experience says otherwise." does it | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight "Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter. | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight
Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter."i couldn't agree with you more | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight
Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter."She's not a man | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight
Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter.
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight
Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter.
She's not a man"Hate being graphic...but Even when she's balls deep in your arse or shooting her load down your throat And maybe some guys are giving not taking it and maybe some trans folk have had operations to change their appearance and removal of genitals but if your banging a transwoman your bi and that's nothing to be ashamed of. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it!" Unless there is a legal matter which depends on it, or a serious social matter, then what does it matter? I wouldn't consider them straight but whether or not I do will have very little bearing on anything. If it's simply a matter of communication then seeking clarification as to what is meant, in a given circumstance should help to resolve any misunderstanding. | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. I agree with you, a guy I knew was meeting a TV, I only found out when his Veri was updated, I kindly & calmly said to him "I didn't know you were bi" & he went ballistic in denial saying he was straight
Some people must be in denial when they insist they are straight/hetrosexual when they like having sexual realtions with men, there's nothing wrong with being bi or gay or anything else for that matter."Total denial and have the gall to try and convince the rest of us otherwise. Hate to break it to those of you in denial, but if you were born with an XY chromesome and sleep with someone who has a similar chromosomal makeup, you're either bi/gay. No amount of chopping appendages off/hormonal therapy will alter chromosomal makeup. You are deluded if you think this is the case. | |||
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"So many people with different opinions. You can respect them all , telling people to believe what's happening inside your head but not allowing people to believe what's going on in theirs,crazy double standards and ignorance. If someone born male has the right to believe they are a woman then everyone else has a right to believe what they want too,and if they look like a dude, it's pretty hard to see anything else,it's really that simple. If someone says they don't believe a trans woman is a woman, that's fine too, no one can control your thoughts. Personally I enjoy being with TS , it's primarily why I'm here, but, I don't believe they are women, I believe they are trans women. That is my personal belief, I have lovers and friends that are trans and some agree with me and some argue. I have myself as bi because i love sucking on tgirl cock, I wouldn't suck a man's cock..... Funny that 😂😂😂 I suppose if you don't deliberately try to offend someone or hurt someone and then someone gets offended it is as ridiculous as is trying to control peoples use of their own opinions, it is completely wrong. " Commend your honesty and acceptance of being bi. Hopefully your post inspires others to do the same. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. " Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone whatever you’re into but I just don’t see how a man says he is straight if they are having sex with another person who has a penis. You are quite literally judging that person's right to define themselves." A person can call or define themselves as they wish but it doesn’t make it true | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Just check their profile pics or their descriptions pre-op on hormones unless stated as post op. I have only encountered one that was post op and she was in London. A lot of the trans with great verifications are boomerang members as they keep rejoining after being banned for soliciting payment Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you?" | |||
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" A lot of the trans with great verifications are boomerang members as they keep rejoining after being banned for soliciting payment " Mother of Jesus. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Just check their profile pics or their descriptions pre-op on hormones unless stated as post op. I have only encountered one that was post op and she was in London. A lot of the trans with great verifications are boomerang members as they keep rejoining after being banned for soliciting payment Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you?" Have you any idea of the waiting times just for an initial appointment? That might go some way to explaining why so many are pre-op. Some might not even want surgery for a variety of reasons. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Just check their profile pics or their descriptions pre-op on hormones unless stated as post op. I have only encountered one that was post op and she was in London. A lot of the trans with great verifications are boomerang members as they keep rejoining after being banned for soliciting payment Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you? Have you any idea of the waiting times just for an initial appointment? That might go some way to explaining why so many are pre-op. Some might not even want surgery for a variety of reasons." I’m not arguing any point, just stating the obvious. It is none of my business if they don’t want to get the full operation, I stated that many still have their meat and two veg and that’s their selling point. I personally think a lot of these are very good looking with great bodies but if they had the operation they’d be like every other girl in here but they wouldn’t taste as nice as they’d be missing the real spice that makes girls taste nice | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you?" According to a 30 second google search various websites state approx 10% of trans men/women have had gender reaffirming surgery so it's reasoble to assume 90% of trans people still have their original sexual genitalia. I don't know do TV and TS fall into the 90% as people who identify as women or if they live that way full time or just occasionally alternating between both | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you? According to a 30 second google search various websites state approx 10% of trans men/women have had gender reaffirming surgery so it's reasoble to assume 90% of trans people still have their original sexual genitalia. I don't know do TV and TS fall into the 90% as people who identify as women or if they live that way full time or just occasionally alternating between both " Google is Transphobic... Not everything requires a survey; quite often the information is readily available, if you care to look. Doesn't exactly require a PhD, though may help if you have one... | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you? According to a 30 second google search various websites state approx 10% of trans men/women have had gender reaffirming surgery so it's reasoble to assume 90% of trans people still have their original sexual genitalia. I don't know do TV and TS fall into the 90% as people who identify as women or if they live that way full time or just occasionally alternating between both Google is Transphobic... Not everything requires a survey; quite often the information is readily available, if you care to look. Doesn't exactly require a PhD, though may help if you have one... " Google is transphobic???? I've heard it all. Google is a search engine. It searches stuff people want info on. People can be transphobic. I don't think a search engine can be. If you Google "flat earth" I'm sure it will throw up info "proving" the earth isn't a globe. Does that make Google a flat earther? Throwing around the word "transphobic" to describe anyone (or anything as it happens) that doesn't agree with your point of view is absolutely not helping the trans cause because it closes down dialogue immediately | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you? According to a 30 second google search various websites state approx 10% of trans men/women have had gender reaffirming surgery so it's reasoble to assume 90% of trans people still have their original sexual genitalia. I don't know do TV and TS fall into the 90% as people who identify as women or if they live that way full time or just occasionally alternating between both Google is Transphobic... Not everything requires a survey; quite often the information is readily available, if you care to look. Doesn't exactly require a PhD, though may help if you have one... Google is transphobic???? I've heard it all. Google is a search engine. It searches stuff people want info on. People can be transphobic. I don't think a search engine can be. If you Google "flat earth" I'm sure it will throw up info "proving" the earth isn't a globe. Does that make Google a flat earther? Throwing around the word "transphobic" to describe anyone (or anything as it happens) that doesn't agree with your point of view is absolutely not helping the trans cause because it closes down dialogue immediately " Oh don't worry, he's being sarcastic and definitely has no interest in supporting the cause of trans people | |||
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"Some trans women want and like their penis. They are still women. Some trans women don't and go for surgery if they can afford it. They are women too. Some transwomen take hormones (this isn't mandatory to be a trans woman) and the medical effect is that their penis becomes soft and smaller, so they are highly unlikely to assault someone sexually in a womens WC. There is one well cited case of a transwoman assaulting someone in a public loo, but bad transwomen exist just like bad humans exist. For some transwomen the lack of usefulness of their penis is great because they have dysphoria around their genitals and when they have sex, their genitals aren't involved at all. If you then think, well then that's not sex, do lesbians have sex? Because it's generally accepted that lesbians have sex. CD and TV people are transwomen if they want to be. Often they are role playing being a woman, and acknowledge they are not a woman. That's up to the individual. That's why I think Fab should have more gender options than CD/TV. Because lumping transwomen into that category is old fashioned and outdated. " The first two sentences in the above paragraph sums up why the vast majority of people roll their eyes. | |||
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" The first two sentences in the above paragraph sums up why the vast majority of people roll their eyes." You are missing the point that gender isn't about appendages. It's about brain chemistry. This dangling arm makes me female. Nope it doesn't it makes me male. OK now I've decided it makes me gender neutral...oops but now I'm gender fluid and also bigender just for good measure. The penis...doesn't...matter. | |||
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" The first two sentences in the above paragraph sums up why the vast majority of people roll their eyes. You are missing the point that gender isn't about appendages. It's about brain chemistry. This dangling arm makes me female. Nope it doesn't it makes me male. OK now I've decided it makes me gender neutral...oops but now I'm gender fluid and also bigender just for good measure. The penis...doesn't...matter. " And again the 1st paragraph above is the kind of thing that makes the vast majority of people roll their eyes. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
"Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis "They don't. But it's clear you do. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis "My trans son doesn't want bottom surgery. Eventually he would hope to have top surgery. The gender dysphoria he experiences is worsened by what is visible not aligning with his gender identity. The penis isn't important (to him). When he binds, the outside world sees him as male. When he doesn't, the outside world sees him as female. The penis, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis "Is a person born with both a womb and a penis a man or a woman? | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. It's a free country and no one cares or should care what 2 consenting adults get up to together but if your sucking cock or taking/giving it up the bum your bi sexual at a minium. That's not judging just stating a fact. " Yeah but stating that fact in this forum will get you called transphobic. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. It's a free country and no one cares or should care what 2 consenting adults get up to together but if your sucking cock or taking/giving it up the bum your bi sexual at a minium. That's not judging just stating a fact. Yeah but stating that fact in this forum will get you called transphobic. 🤷♂️🤷♂️" Presenting it as fact probably will, yes. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do."Yep, true colours showing. Transphobic comments will do that. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
Is a person born with both a womb and a penis a man or a woman?"Whatever they feel in their brain. Or neither male or female. Or somewhere along a sliding scale between them both. As cis women and cis men have both sex hormones then they can feel something different than what the midwife wrote down at birth. And in my friends (and I'd guess all trans people), it's not a choice. It's something they HAVE to do, the alternative is in extreme cases, suicide, depression and at the very least masking and unhappiness. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! It's a legitimate question, if a guys meets a guy dressed as a woman for sex I presume someone is going home with a sore arse. The question is how. And the answer is 'watch me'. Even if strictly and technically speaking a man having sex with a cross dresser is engaged in a homosexual act, it is still absolutely his right to decide on and or deny any label he likes. He is not required to give a shit what anyone else thinks. It's a free country and no one cares or should care what 2 consenting adults get up to together but if your sucking cock or taking/giving it up the bum your bi sexual at a minium. That's not judging just stating a fact. Yeah but stating that fact in this forum will get you called transphobic. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ Presenting it as fact probably will, yes. " It does yes but it shouldn’t as it is a 100% provable fact. Anyone who denies that is simply wrong. And it’s not debatable. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do."No, obviously I'm the only person who's roles their eyes and the majority of other people appear to be bemused are just unintentionally confirming each other's bias | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do.
No, obviously I'm the only person who's roles their eyes and the majority of other people appear to be bemused are just unintentionally confirming each other's bias "Oh I fully agree with everything you’ve said so far, but I’ve nothing more to add to the discussion so I’ve stayed silent 😉 | |||
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Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
Is a person born with both a womb and a penis a man or a woman?"0.017% to 1-2% of babies are born with intersex traits depending on which studies to lean to and what extent, in those rare cases their might be a defining trait that determines if they are boy/girl but unfortunately it seems some of those people are susceptible to male and female disease such as gender specific cancers like prostate cancer, something they have no control over. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
Is a person born with both a womb and a penis a man or a woman?
0.017% to 1-2% of babies are born with intersex traits depending on which studies to lean to and what extent, in those rare cases their might be a defining trait that determines if they are boy/girl but unfortunately it seems some of those people are susceptible to male and female disease such as gender specific cancers like prostate cancer, something they have no control over."But since they have a penis, are they a man? You did say above that a person can’t be a woman if they have a penis… | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do.
No, obviously I'm the only person who's roles their eyes and the majority of other people appear to be bemused are just unintentionally confirming each other's bias
Oh I fully agree with everything you’ve said so far, but I’ve nothing more to add to the discussion so I’ve stayed silent 😉"So you are confirming by bias. Amusingly I don't care who has sex with who I'd just prefer they were upfront about their sexual preferences so I can make informed choices and way up the level of risk I will expose myself to. The level of sexually transmitted disease is much higher in the gay community (refer to HSE,NHS,CDC and just about every LGBTQ+ advocacy website) Unfortunately if you identify as female but are a biological man those increased risks still apply to you and the people you have sex with ergo it's respectful to potential meets to know the level of risk they are exposing themselves to. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
Is a person born with both a womb and a penis a man or a woman?
0.017% to 1-2% of babies are born with intersex traits depending on which studies to lean to and what extent, in those rare cases their might be a defining trait that determines if they are boy/girl but unfortunately it seems some of those people are susceptible to male and female disease such as gender specific cancers like prostate cancer, something they have no control over.
But since they have a penis, are they a man? You did say above that a person can’t be a woman if they have a penis…"Generally speaking people with cocks are men despite what they wish, I believe there are a multitude of deciding factors when assessing the 1 in a million person born with a womb and a penis. But for Tom across the street that was born with no such issues and decides he wants to identify as a woman it's much easier to assess. | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do.
No, obviously I'm the only person who's roles their eyes and the majority of other people appear to be bemused are just unintentionally confirming each other's bias
Oh I fully agree with everything you’ve said so far, but I’ve nothing more to add to the discussion so I’ve stayed silent 😉
So you are confirming by bias.
Amusingly I don't care who has sex with who I'd just prefer they were upfront about their sexual preferences so I can make informed choices and way up the level of risk I will expose myself to.
The level of sexually transmitted disease is much higher in the gay community (refer to HSE,NHS,CDC and just about every LGBTQ+ advocacy website)
Unfortunately if you identify as female but are a biological man those increased risks still apply to you and the people you have sex with ergo it's respectful to potential meets to know the level of risk they are exposing themselves to."This is not an LGBTQIA+ issue. This is a multiple sexual partners issue, and that applies to swingers. So ergo, swingers are more likely to carry and spread infections as much as anyone who practices sexual non monogamy does, queer or straight. You come across as very homophobic as well as transphobic. | |||
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"Specific Findings (from a Dutch study published in 2010): * Rates of chlamydia and gonorrhea among swingers were similar to those in gay men in the same study (around 10.4% for swingers vs. 14% for gay men for combined chlamydia/gonorrhea). * Female swingers in this study were more likely to be infected than their male counterparts. * Older swingers (over 45) in this study had particularly high rates of STIs, sometimes even higher than other high-risk groups. " https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/sexuallytransmittedinfections/publications/stireports/2023reports/#:~:text=The%20STI%20notification%20rate%20in,15%2D19%20year%20olds: I am looking at this throught the context of a swinging. The level of STD is much higher amongst men who have sex with other men (fact not homophobia) regardless of how the men identify. The only way any of us can limit the amount of risk we choose to expose ourselves to is by making informed choices, if guys are in denial or lie about meeting other men it's denies others to ability to evaluate the increased risk that might be posed by those men. Ultimately the only way to avoid any risk is to not play with others. | |||
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"So female swingers over 45 are in the same risk category as homosexual men. I do hope you all disclose that to the men you sleep with 😂😂😂" Or I could claim to be a virgin and any potential suitors wouldn't be able to assess the risk of sleeping with me | |||
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"The vast majority. Or confirmation bias as some people like to call it.
Call it what you will but most people whether they are confirming each others bias or if they are just looking through a lense of common sense just roll their eyes when people come out with stuff like you can be a woman and have a penis
They don't. But it's clear you do.
No, obviously I'm the only person who's roles their eyes and the majority of other people appear to be bemused are just unintentionally confirming each other's bias
Oh I fully agree with everything you’ve said so far, but I’ve nothing more to add to the discussion so I’ve stayed silent 😉
So you are confirming by bias.
Amusingly I don't care who has sex with who I'd just prefer they were upfront about their sexual preferences so I can make informed choices and way up the level of risk I will expose myself to.
The level of sexually transmitted disease is much higher in the gay community (refer to HSE,NHS,CDC and just about every LGBTQ+ advocacy website)
Unfortunately if you identify as female but are a biological man those increased risks still apply to you and the people you have sex with ergo it's respectful to potential meets to know the level of risk they are exposing themselves to.
This is not an LGBTQIA+ issue. This is a multiple sexual partners issue, and that applies to swingers. So ergo, swingers are more likely to carry and spread infections as much as anyone who practices sexual non monogamy does, queer or straight.
You come across as very homophobic as well as transphobic. "Which brings us back to the issue of guys not being upfront about meeting other guys, no one cares who sleeps with who but men having sexual relations with other men carries a much bigger risk of STD and if they are open about that it allows others to choose if they want to meet someone that may introduce that increased risk to them. It's not homophobic or transphobic it's just facts, and unfortunately transwomen are still biologically men and exposed to that increased risk if they are having sex with other biological men. | |||
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"Nope, the text doesn't compare swingers to gay or bi folks at all. It talks about mpox in gay/bi men and STIs increasing in young straight women, but that's it. No mention of swingers or any data for comparison. " Did you scroll down to the Key points Groups most affected by STF, Men who have sex with other men and youths 15 to 24. I don't think it's disputed anywhere as to where the bigger risks are. I don't know the science as to why that is. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6893897/#:~:text=Abstract,pubic%20apposition%20(pediculosis%20pubis). | |||
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"The higher rate of STIs in gay and bi men is said to be related to their promiscuity. It’s also due to the better testing rates among that community. Therefore, bi men on fab must have very low rates of STIs since most of them lament that they’re not getting the ride 🤔 Going by this, women on fab are most likely to have an STI. Therefore, I’m gonna keep fucking the bi men and stay the fuck away from the women. " But if their bi and sleeping with women as well and your concerned about women and want to stay the fuxk away from them are you not worried the bi guys might potentially expose you to the females with STDs ? | |||
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"The higher rate of STIs in gay and bi men is said to be related to their promiscuity. It’s also due to the better testing rates among that community. Therefore, bi men on fab must have very low rates of STIs since most of them lament that they’re not getting the ride 🤔 Going by this, women on fab are most likely to have an STI. Therefore, I’m gonna keep fucking the bi men and stay the fuck away from the women. But if their bi and sleeping with women as well and your concerned about women and want to stay the fuxk away from them are you not worried the bi guys might potentially expose you to the females with STDs ? " So will the straight guys 🤷🏻♀️ I’ll continue to use protection, get tested and worry about myself rather than who other people are fucking. | |||
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"WTAF, how can you call yourself straight and have sex with TV’s, don’t get it! Given that fab does not have a category for trans people, but instead lumps them in with cross dressers etc, it’s hard to make a judgement. A man having sex with a trans woman is straight. Really? Most trans still have their meat and 2 veg You’ve conducted a survey have you? According to a 30 second google search various websites state approx 10% of trans men/women have had gender reaffirming surgery so it's reasoble to assume 90% of trans people still have their original sexual genitalia. I don't know do TV and TS fall into the 90% as people who identify as women or if they live that way full time or just occasionally alternating between both Google is Transphobic... Not everything requires a survey; quite often the information is readily available, if you care to look. Doesn't exactly require a PhD, though may help if you have one... Google is transphobic???? I've heard it all. Google is a search engine. It searches stuff people want info on. People can be transphobic. I don't think a search engine can be. If you Google "flat earth" I'm sure it will throw up info "proving" the earth isn't a globe. Does that make Google a flat earther? Throwing around the word "transphobic" to describe anyone (or anything as it happens) that doesn't agree with your point of view is absolutely not helping the trans cause because it closes down dialogue immediately Oh don't worry, he's being sarcastic and definitely has no interest in supporting the cause of trans people " The cause... Deary Lord! | |||
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"It goes without saying that the more promiscuous you are, regardless of sexuality you are increasing your exposure and risk to STDs. Other than staying at home and not indulging in swinging all you can do is assess the risks and if people are straight up with each other it allows one another to make an informed decision once the risks have been weighed up. If a guy is worried a middle aged woman who is bi and sleeps with the occasional man and woman is to much of a risk he can make an informed choice, I just want the opportunity to do the same." Nobody should have to disclose their sexual history. You can ask but you arent entitled to that information. You can also ask for their latest test results, and if they dont give it thats a red flag. Do you quiz all people equally or just the ones you are biased against. | |||
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"It goes without saying that the more promiscuous you are, regardless of sexuality you are increasing your exposure and risk to STDs. Other than staying at home and not indulging in swinging all you can do is assess the risks and if people are straight up with each other it allows one another to make an informed decision once the risks have been weighed up. If a guy is worried a middle aged woman who is bi and sleeps with the occasional man and woman is to much of a risk he can make an informed choice, I just want the opportunity to do the same. Nobody should have to disclose their sexual history. You can ask but you arent entitled to that information. You can also ask for their latest test results, and if they dont give it thats a red flag. Do you quiz all people equally or just the ones you are biased against. " We don't quiz anyone or ask anyone for any test results. But you are correct in saying that I'm biased as I choose to not (knowingly) meet men that are sexually active with other men, I also choose to not (knowingly) meet attached guys who are cheating. | |||
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"It goes without saying that the more promiscuous you are, regardless of sexuality you are increasing your exposure and risk to STDs. Other than staying at home and not indulging in swinging all you can do is assess the risks and if people are straight up with each other it allows one another to make an informed decision once the risks have been weighed up. If a guy is worried a middle aged woman who is bi and sleeps with the occasional man and woman is to much of a risk he can make an informed choice, I just want the opportunity to do the same. Nobody should have to disclose their sexual history. You can ask but you arent entitled to that information. You can also ask for their latest test results, and if they dont give it thats a red flag. Do you quiz all people equally or just the ones you are biased against. We don't quiz anyone or ask anyone for any test results. But you are correct in saying that I'm biased as I choose to not (knowingly) meet men that are sexually active with other men, I also choose to not (knowingly) meet attached guys who are cheating. " I forgot to add smokers, I won't meet a smoker so add that to the list of people I'm biased against. | |||
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"Back to the point of this forum yes op any guys that meet a tv or ts for sex is not Straight " As a trans girl (or crossdresser if you want to use that term) I'm really only interested in straight guys. That means, I'm attracted to guys who define themselves as straight, because that means they see me as a woman and want to interact with me like they're with a woman. If I'm with a guy who I know is into males or bi, it's a bit of a turn off because I'm maybe wondering if he's only with me because of the male parts or if he sees this as some form of gay sex. For me, it's straightc sex that is a turn on. I'm any case, there are a lot of truly straight guys on here who approach girls like me regularly. I'll never kiss and tell, but take it from me... And I've been with guys who want nothing to do with my male parts, they just went to treat me as a female. | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over again" he was sent home | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home " He feckin' walked, right!! | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!!" your wrong | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong " How can I be wrong if I'm right? | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?" he was SENT HOME | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?he was SENT HOME " If by sent home you mean he walked, then yes. | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?he was SENT HOME If by sent home you mean he walked, then yes." if you mean walked by being told to leave then yes | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?he was SENT HOME If by sent home you mean he walked, then yes.if you mean walked by being told to leave then yes" Next You'll be saying United are a bigger club than Liverpool | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?he was SENT HOME If by sent home you mean he walked, then yes.if you mean walked by being told to leave then yes Next You'll be saying United are a bigger club than Liverpool "no most definitely not | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!!" He Did Walk & McCarthy asked Roy back & Roy refused. | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! your wrong How can I be wrong if I'm right?he was SENT HOME If by sent home you mean he walked, then yes.if you mean walked by being told to leave then yes Next You'll be saying United are a bigger club than Liverpool no most definitely not "No matter people's differences, we can always find common ground | |||
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"Man, this is like Roy Keane in Saipan all over againhe was sent home He feckin' walked, right!! He Did Walk & McCarthy asked Roy back & Roy refused." Damn straight | |||
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"Back to the point of this forum yes op any guys that meet a tv or ts for sex is not Straight As a trans girl (or crossdresser if you want to use that term) I'm really only interested in straight guys. That means, I'm attracted to guys who define themselves as straight, because that means they see me as a woman and want to interact with me like they're with a woman. If I'm with a guy who I know is into males or bi, it's a bit of a turn off because I'm maybe wondering if he's only with me because of the male parts or if he sees this as some form of gay sex. For me, it's straightc sex that is a turn on. I'm any case, there are a lot of truly straight guys on here who approach girls like me regularly. I'll never kiss and tell, but take it from me... And I've been with guys who want nothing to do with my male parts, they just went to treat me as a female. " I'm sorry to brake it to you but you are not a women and any guys that meet you is not straight | |||
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"Back to the point of this forum yes op any guys that meet a tv or ts for sex is not Straight As a trans girl (or crossdresser if you want to use that term) I'm really only interested in straight guys. That means, I'm attracted to guys who define themselves as straight, because that means they see me as a woman and want to interact with me like they're with a woman. If I'm with a guy who I know is into males or bi, it's a bit of a turn off because I'm maybe wondering if he's only with me because of the male parts or if he sees this as some form of gay sex. For me, it's straightc sex that is a turn on. I'm any case, there are a lot of truly straight guys on here who approach girls like me regularly. I'll never kiss and tell, but take it from me... And I've been with guys who want nothing to do with my male parts, they just went to treat me as a female. I'm sorry to brake it to you but you are not a women and any guys that meet you is not straight " *are not. | |||
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"So female swingers over 45 are in the same risk category as homosexual men. I do hope you all disclose that to the men you sleep with 😂😂😂" Sure do. I’m currently sleeping with 3 men. 1 I always wear a condom. The other 2 we exchange test results regularly. I test every 1.5 months - SH24 and private GP. I’ve no intention of catching nor giving anyone anything. My last test was June 4th and all clean. | |||
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"I thought this site, of all places, was somewhere where people could be free of judgment and labels. Jesus. OP…open your mind. " It’s not about judgment or labels. It’s about likes or dislikes. It’s about being able to look at a profile and being able to make an initial informed decision whether you’d like to know/see more of a man. I suppose the lesson for me here (naive I know), is to take all profiles with a pinch of salt and ask tons of probing (subtle questions), to get the information I need. In my (unprofessional) opinion anyone who has sexual interactions (penetration, oral) with a tv/ts isn’t someone I want to have sexual interactions with. It would be great if people were open about this on their profiles so as to save everyone’s time and energy. This is MY preference, my like/dislike. Not a judgement on others and their likes/dislikes/preferences. YOU eat what YOU want. And I eat what I want. | |||
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"I thought this site, of all places, was somewhere where people could be free of judgment and labels. Jesus. OP…open your mind. It’s not about judgment or labels. It’s about likes or dislikes. It’s about being able to look at a profile and being able to make an initial informed decision whether you’d like to know/see more of a man. I suppose the lesson for me here (naive I know), is to take all profiles with a pinch of salt and ask tons of probing (subtle questions), to get the information I need. In my (unprofessional) opinion anyone who has sexual interactions (penetration, oral) with a tv/ts isn’t someone I want to have sexual interactions with. It would be great if people were open about this on their profiles so as to save everyone’s time and energy. This is MY preference, my like/dislike. Not a judgement on others and their likes/dislikes/preferences. YOU eat what YOU want. And I eat what I want. " I made a moral decision that I won't intentionally meet attached guys as I don't want to partake in someone cheating and dishonesty but that doesn't mean I have something against attached guys, I know many including my husband, brother, father etc. As a risk mitigation decision I dont intentionally meet guys who have sex with other men due to the increased risk of STDs amongst men who have sex with other men. Doesn't mean I have anything against those guys or judge them. | |||
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"I thought this site, of all places, was somewhere where people could be free of judgment and labels. Jesus. OP…open your mind. It’s not about judgment or labels. It’s about likes or dislikes. It’s about being able to look at a profile and being able to make an initial informed decision whether you’d like to know/see more of a man. I suppose the lesson for me here (naive I know), is to take all profiles with a pinch of salt and ask tons of probing (subtle questions), to get the information I need. In my (unprofessional) opinion anyone who has sexual interactions (penetration, oral) with a tv/ts isn’t someone I want to have sexual interactions with. It would be great if people were open about this on their profiles so as to save everyone’s time and energy. This is MY preference, my like/dislike. Not a judgement on others and their likes/dislikes/preferences. YOU eat what YOU want. And I eat what I want. I made a moral decision that I won't intentionally meet attached guys as I don't want to partake in someone cheating and dishonesty but that doesn't mean I have something against attached guys, I know many including my husband, brother, father etc. As a risk mitigation decision I dont intentionally meet guys who have sex with other men due to the increased risk of STDs amongst men who have sex with other men. Doesn't mean I have anything against those guys or judge them." You have judged. STI's. That's one of your big things. You're playing Russian roulette with three chambers loaded with how you go on about it. Hell, playing with women thinking there's nothing wrong, go play with two chambers loaded. No one forces bareback besides the obvious criminal element. But in the legal tango situation.... How many pics do you see on either sex's profiles with out condoms. | |||
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"I thought this site, of all places, was somewhere where people could be free of judgment and labels. Jesus. OP…open your mind. It’s not about judgment or labels. It’s about likes or dislikes. It’s about being able to look at a profile and being able to make an initial informed decision whether you’d like to know/see more of a man. I suppose the lesson for me here (naive I know), is to take all profiles with a pinch of salt and ask tons of probing (subtle questions), to get the information I need. In my (unprofessional) opinion anyone who has sexual interactions (penetration, oral) with a tv/ts isn’t someone I want to have sexual interactions with. It would be great if people were open about this on their profiles so as to save everyone’s time and energy. This is MY preference, my like/dislike. Not a judgement on others and their likes/dislikes/preferences. YOU eat what YOU want. And I eat what I want. I made a moral decision that I won't intentionally meet attached guys as I don't want to partake in someone cheating and dishonesty but that doesn't mean I have something against attached guys, I know many including my husband, brother, father etc. As a risk mitigation decision I dont intentionally meet guys who have sex with other men due to the increased risk of STDs amongst men who have sex with other men. Doesn't mean I have anything against those guys or judge them. You have judged. STI's. That's one of your big things. You're playing Russian roulette with three chambers loaded with how you go on about it. Hell, playing with women thinking there's nothing wrong, go play with two chambers loaded. No one forces bareback besides the obvious criminal element. But in the legal tango situation.... How many pics do you see on either sex's profiles with out condoms. " I don't understand your last 2 paragraphs but as for the 1st paragraph it's not judgmental to make an informed choice to discount one group of people based on the fact that the group has significantly higher rates of STDs as per the multiple HSE, NHS links I've posted already. The only way to completely eliminate risk is to not play at all. It's up to each of us as to how much risk we're willing to accept. | |||
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"Well imagine that, I just got a threatening message from a bi guy lool " a swift block sorts that | |||
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"Well imagine that, I just got a threatening message from a bi guy lool a swift block sorts that " Reported to admin and screenshot his messages, it appears his account have now been suspended. | |||
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" I’m into bi-men, but won’t meet men who have sex with a TV. Just a personal preference. " This seems like a complete self-contradiction. What makes TVs so different from any other person who has sex with another person...? Just curious to know, no judgement... | |||
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"Sexuality isn't black and white. There's a big spectrum, as for how someone identifies as is soonest business. As for he should tell women he slept with isn't their business. Do you ask every woman you've slept with OP who they've been with sexualy. Some guys are attracted to femininity no matter gender. People are too hung up on labels." Thanks Wendy, imo, this is the most sense made so far.... I find certain TVs who look abd dress and act a certain way. I have zero sexual interest in men. I'm 100% into women and always have been from 13 years old onwards (and naturally then, trans or TS women too) Do I stop being 'straight' when I am with a TV? If so, do I then stop being 'bi" or 'bi-curious' or 'gay' when I am with a woman? I'm into femininity across genders. There is no discrete line between male and female, we are all a perfect mix of both and everyone displays characteristics of both sexes to greater and lesser degrees. | |||
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"Oh if only people knew the amount of straight guys who are interested in a walk on the wild side. I'm old fashioned and I never kiss and tell, never. It's no big deal, that old saying the similarities between a straight guy bi or gay guy year's ago was around 7 cans of beer... " | |||
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"So female swingers over 45 are in the same risk category as homosexual men. I do hope you all disclose that to the men you sleep with 😂😂😂 Sure do. I’m currently sleeping with 3 men. 1 I always wear a condom. The other 2 we exchange test results regularly. I test every 1.5 months - SH24 and private GP. I’ve no intention of catching nor giving anyone anything. My last test was June 4th and all clean. " Interesting that nowhere on your profile do you mention that you do bareback, and you have no verifications shown. | |||
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