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By *adger Broc OP   Man
13 weeks ago

Co. Cork

Verona stepping down and going back into the "oppsition" benches but supporting the government would = + 1 vote for the coalition.

SF, Labour or others nominating one of their members as Ceann Choirle Comhairle and getting support from the government parties would = -1 vote for the opposition.

Nett result = larger majority for the government.

As in every thing in life, "be careful what you wish for".

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By *man1044Man
13 weeks ago

North Galway

A gang of over paid trying to score points is this what we call a government.

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By *aybeLadyWoman
13 weeks ago

West Dublin

Absolute joke. So many serious issues to tackle and THIS is the performance??? Shocking all round.

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By *ing PaddyMan
13 weeks ago

South County Dublin

It is a right farce. Nearly 6 months since election and no new legislation passed. Then the problem child gives the 2 fingers, that was to us all.

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By *ozzlesMan
13 weeks ago

galway

It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

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By *r_Insatiable666Man
13 weeks ago

Cork

Perhaps globally this wouldn't even make the news but we get the politicians we vote for. To think people fought and became monsters for an independent Ireland, and for Simon Harris, mehole and Mary Lou to be the quality of our politicians. As much as I dislike him, I'm not surprised McGregor thinks he can do a better job, a class of junior certs would be more competent and possibly more mature. Then of course there will be those hounding and tutting who haven't seen a polling station.

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By *adger Broc OP   Man
13 weeks ago

Co. Cork

The Sinn Féin leaders insistence on directly addressing the Ceann Comhairle through Irish, knowing that she is not fluent in the language, was no better than the Taoiseach trying to hide behind the "cupola focal" in his recent accusation towards Ms.McD. Both instances are a verbal equivalent of the two fingered gesture used by M Lowery.

Politicians are far less likely to wax patriotic "as Gaeilge" when they are touting for votes among the majority of people in this country who do not have fluency in Irish.

Has politics reached a new low where we have politicians with a ballot box in one hand agus fáinne sa láimh eile.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
13 weeks ago

Lucan


"The Sinn Féin leaders insistence on directly addressing the Ceann Comhairle through Irish, knowing that she is not fluent in the language, was no better than the Taoiseach trying to hide behind the "cupola focal" in his recent accusation towards Ms.McD. Both instances are a verbal equivalent of the two fingered gesture used by M Lowery.

Politicians are far less likely to wax patriotic "as Gaeilge" when they are touting for votes among the majority of people in this country who do not have fluency in Irish.

Has politics reached a new low where we have politicians with a ballot box in one hand agus fáinne sa láimh eile.

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By (user no longer on site)
13 weeks ago

It's a farce, election held in November, we are now the end of March and still no committee's up and running. They need to stop this stupid BS and get on with the important work in the country, like funding CDNT's to hire temps for maternity leave and long term illness cover.

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power "

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
13 weeks ago

Lucan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times"

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time. "

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
13 weeks ago

Lucan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

"

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on.

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on. "

You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues.

On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry.

Not all about you honey but do read the comments properly before doing the whole sanctimonious thing!

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
13 weeks ago

Lucan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on.

You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues.

On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry.

Not all about you honey but do read the comments properly before doing the whole sanctimonious thing! "

Your personal digs are amusing but leaving that aside, suggesting that the opposition, rather than the actual government, are "standing over the asylum system" is either just silly or a complete misunderstanding of how the Dáil actually works.

But sure look...

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on.

You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues.

On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry.

Not all about you honey but do read the comments properly before doing the whole sanctimonious thing!

Your personal digs are amusing but leaving that aside, suggesting that the opposition, rather than the actual government, are "standing over the asylum system" is either just silly or a complete misunderstanding of how the Dáil actually works.

But sure look... "

You started with both deliberately misquoting me and behave very condescendingly so dont moan when you get push back, you are obviously not used to getting your way. And yes most of the opposition do stand over the rights of asylum seekers coming to Ireland, (the second highest destination country in Euro per capita) even though they are well aware that the vast majority of our applicants are abusing the system. Even our government are belatedly acknowledging this.

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By *r_Insatiable666Man
13 weeks ago

Cork

I'm not going to get involved with your argument. However, the situation in Palestine is worthy of time in the Dail. Lest we forget, we also had a neighbour that for a while considered us Alien and settled in our lands. The Ottomans which at the time of the famine held an Palestinian population and the Ottomans offered some relief to us. Hell if you don't like people because of their complexion or a certains religion, there are christians and Irish peacekeeper in the area affected by the conflict. It's possibly the only stance the government has taken that I agree with since I could understand politics.

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"I'm not going to get involved with your argument. However, the situation in Palestine is worthy of time in the Dail. Lest we forget, we also had a neighbour that for a while considered us Alien and settled in our lands. The Ottomans which at the time of the famine held an Palestinian population and the Ottomans offered some relief to us. Hell if you don't like people because of their complexion or a certains religion, there are christians and Irish peacekeeper in the area affected by the conflict. It's possibly the only stance the government has taken that I agree with since I could understand politics."

hey if you want our elected representatives focusing on issues such as Palastine that's absolutely fine, that's democracy in action. Not sure what your point about "not like people " is supposed to mean.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
13 weeks ago

Lucan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on.

You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues.

On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry.

Not all about you honey but do read the comments properly before doing the whole sanctimonious thing!

Your personal digs are amusing but leaving that aside, suggesting that the opposition, rather than the actual government, are "standing over the asylum system" is either just silly or a complete misunderstanding of how the Dáil actually works.

But sure look...

You started with both deliberately misquoting me and behave very condescendingly so dont moan when you get push back, you are obviously not used to getting your way. And yes most of the opposition do stand over the rights of asylum seekers coming to Ireland, (the second highest destination country in Euro per capita) even though they are well aware that the vast majority of our applicants are abusing the system. Even our government are belatedly acknowledging this.

"

Firstly, I didn't start out by either quoting or misquoting you.

Then there's the silly personal stuff again.

Secondly, the fact that your focusing your ire on the opposition suggests you don't understand the Dáil. The opposition didn't create the asylum we have,the government did, and they have a comfortable majority. If the opposition were jumping up and down about in anger sky it, it still wouldn't matter since tune government have a comfortable majority. If you're angry about it then direct that anger at the government parties and independents who support them rather than at the parties who have nothing to do with it and have zero control over it.

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By *ittycouple4funCouple
13 weeks ago

stillorgan


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on.

You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues.

On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry.

Not all about you honey but do read the comments properly before doing the whole sanctimonious thing!

Your personal digs are amusing but leaving that aside, suggesting that the opposition, rather than the actual government, are "standing over the asylum system" is either just silly or a complete misunderstanding of how the Dáil actually works.

But sure look...

You started with both deliberately misquoting me and behave very condescendingly so dont moan when you get push back, you are obviously not used to getting your way. And yes most of the opposition do stand over the rights of asylum seekers coming to Ireland, (the second highest destination country in Euro per capita) even though they are well aware that the vast majority of our applicants are abusing the system. Even our government are belatedly acknowledging this.

Firstly, I didn't start out by either quoting or misquoting you.

Then there's the silly personal stuff again.

Secondly, the fact that your focusing your ire on the opposition suggests you don't understand the Dáil. The opposition didn't create the asylum we have,the government did, and they have a comfortable majority. If the opposition were jumping up and down about in anger sky it, it still wouldn't matter since tune government have a comfortable majority. If you're angry about it then direct that anger at the government parties and independents who support them rather than at the parties who have nothing to do with it and have zero control over it. "

You literally replied to my post with this

"Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system"

Im not gonna have a battle of wits with an unarmed guy such as yourself

Have a lovely weekend 😘

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By *thloneros38Man
13 weeks ago

athlone/roscommon

Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh

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By *ozzlesMan
13 weeks ago

galway


"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures.

Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power

Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times

Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system.

Secondly, calling out genocide is a good thing and doesn't distract from anything else in any way whatsoever.

Sometimes it's amazing how humans can do two things at the same time.

I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway.

That's my opinion

Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems.

I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀

"

Discussing how a right is used isn't a discussion on the right itself.

I don't care if the speaking time is wasted ( in someone's view) but I do care that the right exists.

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By *ozzlesMan
13 weeks ago

galway


"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh"

Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong.

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By *azzandbobzeventsCouple
13 weeks ago

Cork

I still think "Eric Cartman" would make a wonderful "tea shock"

Monday to Friday 9 to 5 and the loving "screw you guys, I'm going home" attitude on a Friday at 3pm 😂😂

Yours faithfully,

Bazz 😎

Hawk tuahing Cancer since March 2024 🫡

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By *thloneros38Man
13 weeks ago

athlone/roscommon


"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh

Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong.

"

the majoity now requires atleast 3 parties to form a government fg/ff are all voting for eachother and still in need of others to form a government am i wrong? There was a time when 2 parties would be good enough but fg/ff hate sf so much that they would do anything to keep them out the extra seats causes that problem.

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By *ozzlesMan
13 weeks ago

galway


"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh

Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong.

the majoity now requires atleast 3 parties to form a government fg/ff are all voting for eachother and still in need of others to form a government am i wrong? There was a time when 2 parties would be good enough but fg/ff hate sf so much that they would do anything to keep them out the extra seats causes that problem. "

We've a long history of minority and coalition governments. Think back to the rainbow coalition etc. Our Proportional Representation System favours smaller parties so increases the fragmentation. There's not a lot new. FF/FG like all political parties will align with anyone when the numbers work (including SF)and there isn't a better looking alternative, to remain in power. They will also stab each other in the backs when it's in their interest. That's politics.

SF's problem is the fragmented left, they have no dancing partner and are left playing with themselves while the other two get all the fun.

A swing of 10 seats away from FF/FG would probably do it.

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By *ean49Man
13 weeks ago

Limerick

I think we need to look at the bigger picture. Irish citizens on the back foot when claiming anything. The government if you can it that is saying majority rules no matter what. Forced mass undocumented illigal immigration. Irish homeless records while housing a joke. We we hadn't got money in this country we built houses. Now we are rich we can't. Self serving moral corruption.

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By *ozzlesMan
13 weeks ago

galway

Irish citizens on the back foot?

Despite the advantages of being from one of the best welfare states, free education systems, health care, sanitation, low crime, full employment and well just about every leg up you can think of?

If you need more advantage to get on the it's probably time to look a little closer to home for the problem.

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By *lovesx43Man
13 weeks ago

Tralee

Sinn Fein doing what they do , showing themselves up for what they are, pack of clowns led by the biggest fraud of them all. Most corrupt party in the state and a party which is swamping with criminals ,

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