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"The Sinn Féin leaders insistence on directly addressing the Ceann Comhairle through Irish, knowing that she is not fluent in the language, was no better than the Taoiseach trying to hide behind the "cupola focal" in his recent accusation towards Ms.McD. Both instances are a verbal equivalent of the two fingered gesture used by M Lowery. Politicians are far less likely to wax patriotic "as Gaeilge" when they are touting for votes among the majority of people in this country who do not have fluency in Irish. Has politics reached a new low where we have politicians with a ballot box in one hand agus fáinne sa láimh eile. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power " Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times" Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() I was responding to a post that was suggesting it's not a good thing to take speaking time away from the opposition by pointing out that they would most likely waste it anyway. That's my opinion Nobody suggested the opposition can solve problems. I think you jumped the gun a bit because you don't like different opinions but that's ok. Have a fab weekend 😀 | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() Ok. Sorry for correcting you. Carry on. | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() You didn't correct me, suggesting that the opposition waste speaking time is NOT the same as saying the opposition have the power to change national issues. On a seperate note I find the Irish fab forum quite interesting when I come across very narrow minded people like you who are unable to think for themselves, can't abide a different opinion yet come here, of all places, to sneer and eye roll while they wait for the cavalry. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Your personal digs are amusing but leaving that aside, suggesting that the opposition, rather than the actual government, are "standing over the asylum system" is either just silly or a complete misunderstanding of how the Dáil actually works. But sure look... ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You started with both deliberately misquoting me and behave very condescendingly so dont moan when you get push back, you are obviously not used to getting your way. And yes most of the opposition do stand over the rights of asylum seekers coming to Ireland, (the second highest destination country in Euro per capita) even though they are well aware that the vast majority of our applicants are abusing the system. Even our government are belatedly acknowledging this. | |||
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"I'm not going to get involved with your argument. However, the situation in Palestine is worthy of time in the Dail. Lest we forget, we also had a neighbour that for a while considered us Alien and settled in our lands. The Ottomans which at the time of the famine held an Palestinian population and the Ottomans offered some relief to us. Hell if you don't like people because of their complexion or a certains religion, there are christians and Irish peacekeeper in the area affected by the conflict. It's possibly the only stance the government has taken that I agree with since I could understand politics." hey if you want our elected representatives focusing on issues such as Palastine that's absolutely fine, that's democracy in action. Not sure what your point about "not like people " is supposed to mean. | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Firstly, I didn't start out by either quoting or misquoting you. Then there's the silly personal stuff again. ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You literally replied to my post with this "Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system" Im not gonna have a battle of wits with an unarmed guy such as yourself ![]() | |||
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"It may feel a bit petty now but could be hugely significant in future government structures. Personally I value the opposition being in a position to challenge the government of the days decisions and would resist any dilution of these righta regardless of any political party being in power Unfortunately the opposition seem motivated by issues such as Gaza and standing over the abuse of our asylum system then anything else. Weird times Firstly, the opposition don't run the country and have zero control over the asylum system. ![]() ![]() Discussing how a right is used isn't a discussion on the right itself. I don't care if the speaking time is wasted ( in someone's view) but I do care that the right exists. | |||
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"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh" Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong. | |||
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"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong. " the majoity now requires atleast 3 parties to form a government fg/ff are all voting for eachother and still in need of others to form a government am i wrong? There was a time when 2 parties would be good enough but fg/ff hate sf so much that they would do anything to keep them out the extra seats causes that problem. | |||
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"Im just going to say ff/fg added extra seats to the dail for the simple reason that no one party will be a majority and need a second big party to win which in fact is happening now and last elections its shameful tbh Ahhh now come on, we haven't had a majority government in Ireland in heading for 50 years. A few extra seats to allow for democraphic changes won't change that Maybe as far back as Jack Lynch but I could be wrong. the majoity now requires atleast 3 parties to form a government fg/ff are all voting for eachother and still in need of others to form a government am i wrong? There was a time when 2 parties would be good enough but fg/ff hate sf so much that they would do anything to keep them out the extra seats causes that problem. " We've a long history of minority and coalition governments. Think back to the rainbow coalition etc. Our Proportional Representation System favours smaller parties so increases the fragmentation. There's not a lot new. FF/FG like all political parties will align with anyone when the numbers work (including SF)and there isn't a better looking alternative, to remain in power. They will also stab each other in the backs when it's in their interest. That's politics. SF's problem is the fragmented left, they have no dancing partner and are left playing with themselves while the other two get all the fun. A swing of 10 seats away from FF/FG would probably do it. | |||
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