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But on reflection... I don't really fancy guys, though I can recognise good looking ones. Not really into kissing them either. But cocks, in the right setting, can be extremely sexy! | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports" When I first joined I had straight on my profile because I knew that an awful lot of girls won't meet bi guys, and girls are what I'm primarily into. And then I realised it was a swinging site and I wasn't really bothered. But in terms of how people behave, and how that contrasts with how they present themselves... I think a lot of it is bad manners. | |||
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"Hmm.. It's surprisingly calm around here. " And another thing... Warhol was shite at art! Bugger couldn't even draw a nice bowl of fruit, or a few horses in a field. Cans of soup and colourful Monroes? Bolloxology if you ask me. Which you did. I heard you. | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports When I first joined I had straight on my profile because I knew that an awful lot of girls won't meet bi guys, and girls are what I'm primarily into. And then I realised it was a swinging site and I wasn't really bothered. But in terms of how people behave, and how that contrasts with how they present themselves... I think a lot of it is bad manners." Best response to the straight/bi debate that rages on here. I couldn't give a fiddlers what people call themselves but I have on my profile that I am straight because even though I have played with women and have been sexually attracted it doesn't apply to all women so it saves the hassle of couples getting in touch because they want a bi female. Mff doesn't interest me at the minute at all. just wondering though does this make me a liar, hmmmmm lol | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports When I first joined I had straight on my profile because I knew that an awful lot of girls won't meet bi guys, and girls are what I'm primarily into. And then I realised it was a swinging site and I wasn't really bothered. But in terms of how people behave, and how that contrasts with how they present themselves... I think a lot of it is bad manners." Ah but if the woman was looking for a straight guy and not a bi guy i take it you were willing to lie to them and misplace their trust just to get a meet, hmmm interesting, maybe i should lie and say i don't smoke have a 12 inch penis (when flaccid), and that i can go for 6 hrs without taking a break. why tell all the lies in order to get a meet, what about accepting ppl and being accepted for who you are | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports When I first joined I had straight on my profile because I knew that an awful lot of girls won't meet bi guys, and girls are what I'm primarily into. And then I realised it was a swinging site and I wasn't really bothered. But in terms of how people behave, and how that contrasts with how they present themselves... I think a lot of it is bad manners. Ah but if the woman was looking for a straight guy and not a bi guy i take it you were willing to lie to them and misplace their trust just to get a meet, hmmm interesting, maybe i should lie and say i don't smoke have a 12 inch penis (when flaccid), and that i can go for 6 hrs without taking a break. why tell all the lies in order to get a meet, what about accepting ppl and being accepted for who you are" ah dear knew the peace wouldn't last long ! | |||
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"but then again... there are plenty of women who like bi men.. which can be frustrating when majority of the men have straight on their profiles... "But that's perfect sexy, they get to choose a bi man by their truthful profile, that is the whole point of this site, you fill out the profile questionnaire truthfully and ppl get to choose by tiger own preferences. simple, but by not being truthful you put the whole site in jeopardy | |||
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"Hmm.. It's surprisingly calm around here. And another thing... Warhol was shite at art! Bugger couldn't even draw a nice bowl of fruit, or a few horses in a field. Cans of soup and colourful Monroes? Bolloxology if you ask me. Which you did. I heard you." Ah here. Leave it out! That reminds me of the famous Dougal Maguire line from Father Ted... "do you remember the man Ted, who was so good at fashion that they had to shoot him?" | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine." Oh bit don't you know, on here you have to be 100% sure of your sexuality at all times, and also list every single sexual encounter you ever had so that a judgement can be made on your sexuality. Let's see I never told some of my liaisons in the past that I have had sex with women should I be hung drawn and quartered also??? | |||
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"That reminds me of the famous Dougal Maguire line from Father Ted... "do you remember the man Ted, who was so good at fashion that they had to shoot him?" " One of the best Ted lines. Maybe I should rethink my anti-pop art stance. | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine." I had two friends called Willie, and we used to play pool together. Sometimes when I played with the Willies, I even touched their balls. Am I gay? | |||
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"but then again... there are plenty of women who like bi men.. which can be frustrating when majority of the men have straight on their profiles...
But that's perfect sexy, they get to choose a bi man by their truthful profile, that is the whole point of this site, you fill out the profile questionnaire truthfully and ppl get to choose by tiger own preferences. simple, but by not being truthful you put the whole site in jeopardy"ah yes... but i remember not so long ago i put up looking for a meet with a bi guy... all the mail i got were from "straight" guys saying they were bi... i mean come on.. not all women or men are against bi guys.. its a swingers site... be honest about your sexuality... we're not on fb.. so family/friends/ work coligues not gonna find out..... | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine. I had two friends called Willie, and we used to play pool together. Sometimes when I played with the Willies, I even touched their balls. Am I gay? "lol | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine. Oh bit don't you know, on here you have to be 100% sure of your sexuality at all times, and also list every single sexual encounter you ever had so that a judgement can be made on your sexuality. Let's see I never told some of my liaisons in the past that I have had sex with women should I be hung drawn and quartered also???" I'm learning that alright Mrs Jinx... Must say, I've been surprised at how narrowminded some fabbers are! (that's not a go at you Mossy, I understand your point and appreciate it) | |||
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"but then again... there are plenty of women who like bi men.. which can be frustrating when majority of the men have straight on their profiles...
But that's perfect sexy, they get to choose a bi man by their truthful profile, that is the whole point of this site, you fill out the profile questionnaire truthfully and ppl get to choose by tiger own preferences. simple, but by not being truthful you put the whole site in jeopardy
ah yes... but i remember not so long ago i put up looking for a meet with a bi guy... all the mail i got were from "straight" guys saying they were bi... i mean come on.. not all women or men are against bi guys.. its a swingers site... be honest about your sexuality... we're not on fb.. so family/friends/ work coligues not gonna find out....."Now we are on the same hymn sheet sexy, that is my point exactly. | |||
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"but then again... there are plenty of women who like bi men.. which can be frustrating when majority of the men have straight on their profiles...
But that's perfect sexy, they get to choose a bi man by their truthful profile, that is the whole point of this site, you fill out the profile questionnaire truthfully and ppl get to choose by tiger own preferences. simple, but by not being truthful you put the whole site in jeopardy
ah yes... but i remember not so long ago i put up looking for a meet with a bi guy... all the mail i got were from "straight" guys saying they were bi... i mean come on.. not all women or men are against bi guys.. its a swingers site... be honest about your sexuality... we're not on fb.. so family/friends/ work coligues not gonna find out.....
Now we are on the same hymn sheet sexy, that is my point exactly."that's why the bi-curious option is there.. if your not 100% sure of your sexuality use it.. that way it will depend on the peep you meet if ye go with flow there's no pressure on either side to do anything... just my opinion... i never ever push peoples boundaries or expect them to do something they don't want to... i wouldn't like to be pressured into anything.... | |||
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"Bi guys are hot ! just thought I would add that." i totally agree..  | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine. Oh bit don't you know, on here you have to be 100% sure of your sexuality at all times, and also list every single sexual encounter you ever had so that a judgement can be made on your sexuality. Let's see I never told some of my liaisons in the past that I have had sex with women should I be hung drawn and quartered also??? I'm learning that alright Mrs Jinx... Must say, I've been surprised at how narrowminded some fabbers are! (that's not a go at you Mossy, I understand your point and appreciate it)" i understand where you are coming from as well and i wasn't having a go at you personally, this whole thing would be resolved quiet quickly if society as a whole accepted ppl for who they are, i am not having a go at anyone over their sexuality. i can accept anyone's preferences and sexuality but what i don't get is ppl not accepting their own and feeling the need to hide it, its not a go at a person on this thread, they in fact should be applauded and feel no shame in being truthful to themselves and others. I know its not always black and white but we don't always need others acceptance to be true to ourselves | |||
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"You've got me Mossy. I'm in a mirrored hall of lies and I can't find my way out. I was willing to lie to get the ride, though I didn't give it this much conscious tought. I suppose my thought process went: I'm what society would perceive to be straight acting and it's (to me) a fairly arbitrary criterion. I had no problem not sharing with the wider fab community that I enjoyed playing with willies in the past and might again at some stage in the future. But then I thought I might at some stage enjoy playing with willies again, so I changed it. I'm selfish like that. No women were tricked and no trusts were abused. Feels good out here in the sunshine. Oh bit don't you know, on here you have to be 100% sure of your sexuality at all times, and also list every single sexual encounter you ever had so that a judgement can be made on your sexuality. Let's see I never told some of my liaisons in the past that I have had sex with women should I be hung drawn and quartered also??? I'm learning that alright Mrs Jinx... Must say, I've been surprised at how narrowminded some fabbers are! (that's not a go at you Mossy, I understand your point and appreciate it) i understand where you are coming from as well and i wasn't having a go at you personally, this whole thing would be resolved quiet quickly if society as a whole accepted ppl for who they are, i am not having a go at anyone over their sexuality. i can accept anyone's preferences and sexuality but what i don't get is ppl not accepting their own and feeling the need to hide it, its not a go at a person on this thread, they in fact should be applauded and feel no shame in being truthful to themselves and others. I know its not always black and white but we don't always need others acceptance to be true to ourselves" I think this the first time I've agreed with you mossy Woohoo!! | |||
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" however i do.... play hurling with them, now does that make me homophobic" I suppose it depends on how you define the tackle? | |||
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" And remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact." One eye or two? ?? | |||
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" And remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact. One eye or two? ??" ;) I've also been told it's only gay if you back onto it, so now I back onto it AND make contact - they cancel each other out. | |||
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" And remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact. One eye or two? ?? ;) I've also been told it's only gay if you back onto it, so now I back onto it AND make contact - they cancel each other out." You're obviously quite flexible. | |||
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"Not at all Mossy. If you're genuinly interested in the subject, do a google for hetronormative society and heterosexual privilege. There's an awful lot of self indulgent crap written on the subjects but some of it is really eye opening. And remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact." that i will do, i am interested on things that affect our society and lets be honest this is one issue that always crops up, i really need a new job | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports" i think tht a lot of bi sexual men say they are straight on their profile cos its puts sum women off,sum women wont meet bi guys | |||
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"do personally believe in full disclosure - this thread does seem a bit futile though. you're asking members who conceal there preference to out themselves and provide a list of reason why they fib. Perhaps a more interesting question would be - "ladies - why wouldn't you meet a biman" getting an insight into the preconceptions/prejudice will probably go a longer way to explain the reluctance of those concerned to disclose." Quiet the opposite actually, i am not asking ppl to give reasons why they lie in their profile, i am asking ppl to stop lying in their profile | |||
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"do personally believe in full disclosure - this thread does seem a bit futile though. you're asking members who conceal there preference to out themselves and provide a list of reason why they fib. Perhaps a more interesting question would be - "ladies - why wouldn't you meet a biman" getting an insight into the preconceptions/prejudice will probably go a longer way to explain the reluctance of those concerned to disclose. Quiet the opposite actually, i am not asking ppl to give reasons why they lie in their profile, i am asking ppl to stop lying in their profile" Jesus i got shot down by a guy saying that last week, | |||
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"do personally believe in full disclosure - this thread does seem a bit futile though. you're asking members who conceal there preference to out themselves and provide a list of reason why they fib. Perhaps a more interesting question would be - "ladies - why wouldn't you meet a biman" getting an insight into the preconceptions/prejudice will probably go a longer way to explain the reluctance of those concerned to disclose. Quiet the opposite actually, i am not asking ppl to give reasons why they lie in their profile, i am asking ppl to stop lying in their profile" why does their decision to not disclose preoccupy you? don't get how that would impact on your experience here beyond just being noisy or wanting to capitalize on bi prejudice to monopolize available sex partners who would pass them over otherwise. not bi or interested in bi men but Ireland is a backward hell hole.. it's not surprising so many lie. | |||
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"do personally believe in full disclosure - this thread does seem a bit futile though. you're asking members who conceal there preference to out themselves and provide a list of reason why they fib. Perhaps a more interesting question would be - "ladies - why wouldn't you meet a biman" getting an insight into the preconceptions/prejudice will probably go a longer way to explain the reluctance of those concerned to disclose. Quiet the opposite actually, i am not asking ppl to give reasons why they lie in their profile, i am asking ppl to stop lying in their profile why does their decision to not disclose preoccupy you? don't get how that would impact on your experience here beyond just being noisy or wanting to capitalize on bi prejudice to monopolize available sex partners who would pass them over otherwise. not bi or interested in bi men but Ireland is a backward hell hole.. it's not surprising so many lie. " Who gave you the rite to call Ireland a backward hell hole?? | |||
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"do personally believe in full disclosure - this thread does seem a bit futile though. you're asking members who conceal there preference to out themselves and provide a list of reason why they fib. Perhaps a more interesting question would be - "ladies - why wouldn't you meet a biman" getting an insight into the preconceptions/prejudice will probably go a longer way to explain the reluctance of those concerned to disclose. Quiet the opposite actually, i am not asking ppl to give reasons why they lie in their profile, i am asking ppl to stop lying in their profile why does their decision to not disclose preoccupy you? don't get how that would impact on your experience here beyond just being noisy or wanting to capitalize on bi prejudice to monopolize available sex partners who would pass them over otherwise. not bi or interested in bi men but Ireland is a backward hell hole.. it's not surprising so many lie. " well if you actually read the whole thread you will notice that its not about one sexuality its about lying on profiles as a whole, but i will say one thing, would you like some salt and vinegar for that chip on your shoulder | |||
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports" 
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports
as for having a "chip" on my shoulder. responding to this thread in an honest, dignified way.. certainly not instigating innocuously worded witch hunts against anyone?.. hmmm. "Ohhh good jesus Novice, did we not talk about this last week
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"Ah here in lies my question, but before i ask it i would like to reiterate that i have no problem with anyone being gay bi or even bicurious, i have many gay friends and respect their sexual orientations, my question is how many bi men class themselves as straight and why do so, also if a person on this site puts down their sexual orientation as straight why do so many bi and straight men contact them for a meet, now i know this is going to cause some controversy but if i am willing to accept and repeat others sexual orientation would i not be entitled that others respect mine. I know we are going to in back to the whole label thing but we are all labelled and on this site we have am extra one, bi curious so it just seems strange that guys would contact a straight guy for a meet, would it not be the same as me contacting a female asking can i give her a golden shower when she states on her profile that she is not into watersports
as for having a "chip" on my shoulder. responding to this thread in an honest, dignified way.. certainly not instigating innocuously worded witch hunts against anyone?.. hmmm.
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"Every time I see the name of this thread, I click on it half expecting to see "... does it take to change a lightbulb" I think I'm even disappointed when I realise that's not it. Anyway, my question is, do I need to talk to Joe Duffy about this? "Sure sure sure, i think that would be am ecumenical matter  | |||
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