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"Only 6/1 for the draw, which is pretty poor imo" I don't think that's bad there won't be much between them. And Armagh have drawn so many matches lately | |||
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"Only 6/1 for the draw, which is pretty poor imo I don't think that's bad there won't be much between them. And Armagh have drawn so many matches lately " True , I gave in in the end and put €10 on the draw | |||
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"Yeah. His free taking was very poor "Yip ya gotta at least kick the last one dead so you can press the kickoff. Tbf they should have been taken off him | |||
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"So every single All Ireland football title is now in Ulster. Minor, Under 21, Senior,Tailteann, Junior, intermediate & Senior club, Hogan & Sigerson 💪 " Not quite... ladies final to be played yet | |||
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"Massive congrats to Armagh on a brilliant win for the county but to describe it as a great game is definitely far fetched . Even the panelists on the sunday game last night all agreed that something needs to be done over the coming mths to make football attractive again ." The game was as good as most games in the modern era. Many of them are like that game but without the tension. As for the Sunday game panel, to be fair, there's a hive mentality to a great extent and a certain amount of snobbery on display regularly. Unless it's one of the elites that wins there's always a problem. The problems with football have been around for years and most counties share some of the blame. Having says that, teams are there to win and we celebrate victory rather than spectacle. | |||
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"Didn't new York win the junior? " They did but it's not a national competition. Two teams from Britain + New York + Kilkenny. Sin é. | |||
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"Turnd it off with 15 mins to go if thats wat garlic football has cum to i give up how could u watch that after watching the hurling final " Two different sports. People watch darts and snooker as well y'know, and they're not exactly known for being fast paced athletic activities. People watch different sports all the time. | |||
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"Didn't new York win the junior? They did but it's not a national competition. Two teams from Britain + New York + Kilkenny. Sin é. " Ah fair enough. They have to do something to make it more attractive tho. Maybe 13 a side and make everyone wear crocs | |||
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"Didn't new York win the junior? " I should have said junior club. | |||
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"Didn't new York win the junior? I should have said junior club. " Fair play. That's some going | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. " One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. " I'm aware of how the championship works. But it's broken imo. And the provincial championships definitely play a factor in how teams prepare and develop throughout the years to be fair. A bigger gap between the provincial and all Ireland series might work | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. I'm aware of how the championship works. But it's broken imo. And the provincial championships definitely play a factor in how teams prepare and develop throughout the years to be fair. A bigger gap between the provincial and all Ireland series might work" The league has become much more important of late since the decision to drop div 3 & 4 teams from the championship proper. Yeah, I hear ya with the provincial championships and prep but with the league being more competitive and the championship coming hot on the heels of the end of the league, it's of much less importance than before. For cut and thrust, the old days of the knockout championship was unbeatable but people want consistency over romance these days. Gone are the days of a weaker team managing to pull it together for three or four games in a row and finding themselves in a semi final. I don't see the problem with a team losing a couple of games myself, if that's the system we're using. Otherwise you're going back into a knockout situation. The only suggestion I can make is when the group stage is run off, drop off 8 teams instead of 4, and go straight to quarter finals and get rid of the preliminary quarter final nonsense. | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. I'm aware of how the championship works. But it's broken imo. And the provincial championships definitely play a factor in how teams prepare and develop throughout the years to be fair. A bigger gap between the provincial and all Ireland series might work The league has become much more important of late since the decision to drop div 3 & 4 teams from the championship proper. Yeah, I hear ya with the provincial championships and prep but with the league being more competitive and the championship coming hot on the heels of the end of the league, it's of much less importance than before. For cut and thrust, the old days of the knockout championship was unbeatable but people want consistency over romance these days. Gone are the days of a weaker team managing to pull it together for three or four games in a row and finding themselves in a semi final. I don't see the problem with a team losing a couple of games myself, if that's the system we're using. Otherwise you're going back into a knockout situation. The only suggestion I can make is when the group stage is run off, drop off 8 teams instead of 4, and go straight to quarter finals and get rid of the preliminary quarter final nonsense. " I definitely agree that it shouldn't be one and done, but I do think the lack of jeopardy plays a part in people's perception that the quality is worse than it is, if that makes sense. I don't have actual solutions tho 🤣 The league has actually become much more watchable and engaging compared to all but the Ulster alright. | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. I'm aware of how the championship works. But it's broken imo. And the provincial championships definitely play a factor in how teams prepare and develop throughout the years to be fair. A bigger gap between the provincial and all Ireland series might work The league has become much more important of late since the decision to drop div 3 & 4 teams from the championship proper. Yeah, I hear ya with the provincial championships and prep but with the league being more competitive and the championship coming hot on the heels of the end of the league, it's of much less importance than before. For cut and thrust, the old days of the knockout championship was unbeatable but people want consistency over romance these days. Gone are the days of a weaker team managing to pull it together for three or four games in a row and finding themselves in a semi final. I don't see the problem with a team losing a couple of games myself, if that's the system we're using. Otherwise you're going back into a knockout situation. The only suggestion I can make is when the group stage is run off, drop off 8 teams instead of 4, and go straight to quarter finals and get rid of the preliminary quarter final nonsense. I definitely agree that it shouldn't be one and done, but I do think the lack of jeopardy plays a part in people's perception that the quality is worse than it is, if that makes sense. I don't have actual solutions tho 🤣 The league has actually become much more watchable and engaging compared to all but the Ulster alright. " I think there's too many games of no consequence at the group stage and I'm convinced it would be improved by dropping two teams or if each group of four. Every game will most likely matter in that scenario. | |||
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"Uparmagh "Congratulations so happy that it went to Armagh Brilliant for fellow Ulster team 👏 | |||
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"The final wasn't that bad a game tbf and the semis were decent enough. There definitely needs to be a little tweaking of the rules but not a massive overhaul. Alot of the issue is with the championship structure. Derry lost 3 games in a row at one point and were still in the competition. One of those games was in the Ulster championship so pretty much irrelevant to the All Ireland series. The only teams that can gain anything from the provincial championships are the teams in divisions 3 & 4, who can compete for the Sam Maguire if they get to a provincial final. Apart from that it's just for the honour of being provincial champions but of little consequence apart from that. Derry lost two games then in the round robin series but if you have a Round Robin or league element then it's down who which teams have the most points. Derry didn't have the lowest points in the group so they advanced. There's no requirement for teams to win all their games in the round robin stage, just win more than the competition does. I'm aware of how the championship works. But it's broken imo. And the provincial championships definitely play a factor in how teams prepare and develop throughout the years to be fair. A bigger gap between the provincial and all Ireland series might work The league has become much more important of late since the decision to drop div 3 & 4 teams from the championship proper. Yeah, I hear ya with the provincial championships and prep but with the league being more competitive and the championship coming hot on the heels of the end of the league, it's of much less importance than before. For cut and thrust, the old days of the knockout championship was unbeatable but people want consistency over romance these days. Gone are the days of a weaker team managing to pull it together for three or four games in a row and finding themselves in a semi final. I don't see the problem with a team losing a couple of games myself, if that's the system we're using. Otherwise you're going back into a knockout situation. The only suggestion I can make is when the group stage is run off, drop off 8 teams instead of 4, and go straight to quarter finals and get rid of the preliminary quarter final nonsense. I definitely agree that it shouldn't be one and done, but I do think the lack of jeopardy plays a part in people's perception that the quality is worse than it is, if that makes sense. I don't have actual solutions tho 🤣 The league has actually become much more watchable and engaging compared to all but the Ulster alright. I think there's too many games of no consequence at the group stage and I'm convinced it would be improved by dropping two teams or if each group of four. Every game will most likely matter in that scenario. " You're not far wrong there mate,they should also do away with that stupid Marked ball and return to a contact sport again!! | |||
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" You're not far wrong there mate,they should also do away with that stupid Marked ball and return to a contact sport again!!" Ironically there's more contact than ever these days but I know what you mean. The tackle is a difficult one. The rule is clear at the moment and as a result, close to 100% of modern tackles are technically fouls. God help us all if any referee ever decides to start giving frees for foul tackles. Slapping the ball with an open hand is the only tackle allowed, apart from the side to side challenge that we used to call a shoulder. Slapping arms, legs, head, torso or anything other than the ball is a foul. It's an impossible situation for a referee. | |||
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"I feel like both codes have lost something as the player have gotten bigger, fitter, stronger, better coached etc... The skill levels are massive and the players a phenomenal but it was definitely more fun when you could get away with having a bot of a belly and a wand of a left boot" That's how I remember the Dublin team from the 80's I'm also convinced some of them had a smoke on the pitch once the match was over | |||
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"I feel like both codes have lost something as the player have gotten bigger, fitter, stronger, better coached etc... The skill levels are massive and the players a phenomenal but it was definitely more fun when you could get away with having a bot of a belly and a wand of a left boot That's how I remember the Dublin team from the 80's I'm also convinced some of them had a smoke on the pitch once the match was over " I was in the changing rooms with the Armagh team after the '77 semifinal replay and some of the players were smoking as Jim Finnegan was screaming in the background with a broken collarbone. | |||
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"Home of Supermacs🍟🍔🍗😝 🏐" home if supermacs but not the home of good backs lol | |||
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