FabSwingers.com forum: Single men paying a premium.

By *rank7737 OP Man
23 weeks ago

Hey folks just thinking about this and different events up & down the country.

So my question is and i know that hosts and party planners need to out the time wasters which we all benefit from to be fair so thank you but then on the other side is this not why we verify each other as my own personal view is that verifications are the fab currency and that's how we judge people? But again it got me thinking if this is a rule on how we judge potential guests to parties or individual meets why is there such a high premium to pay for single men?

Now just to clarify I'm not giving out here as it's each to there own regarding invitations i just thought it would be a topic to drop in

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
23 weeks ago

East / North, Cork

"Hey folks just thinking about this and different events up & down the country.

Now just to clarify I'm not giving out here as it's each to there own regarding invitations i just thought it would be a topic to drop in"

I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Also I wouldn't agree that verifications are currency. They just confirm that you turned up to something and you are approximately as your profile claims that you are. Having quite a few means you turned up multiple times so are more likely to be reliable.

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By *rank7737 OP Man
23 weeks ago

"Hey folks just thinking about this and different events up & down the country.

Now just to clarify I'm not giving out here as it's each to there own regarding invitations i just thought it would be a topic to drop in

I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Hey i totally get ya regarding the supply and demand but just thought there might have been more to it. But honestly this is nor was a loaded question i just thought it might have been an interesting topic that's all.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
23 weeks ago

East / North, Cork

Of course no worries. FYI not all parties charge more for men. Have fun!

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By *rank7737 OP Man
23 weeks ago

"Of course no worries. FYI not all parties charge more for men. Have fun!"

Ah thank you and i know well as i have been lucky to have been invited to events before and hopefully again in the future but again i was just wondering so thanks again x

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago

"Of course no worries. FYI not all parties charge more for men. Have fun!"

One party coming up charges the same for single men and women and couples are exactly double a single person. Which is equal and fair. Looking forward to it mind you.

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago

I know from my other half! That abroad into clubs it's single women & couples are free, single men pay in, or couples are cheaper than twice a single guy! Something like that. But looking at the ratios here, only so many guys are invited and expect they are reliable, courteous and show up.

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By *rank7737 OP Man
23 weeks ago

"Of course no worries. FYI not all parties charge more for men. Have fun!

One party coming up charges the same for single men and women and couples are exactly double a single person. Which is equal and fair. Looking forward to it mind you. "

Hey that's exactly my thoughts on the matter also and not to be overly romantic about it lol it has a sense of community spirt towards it

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By *electableicecreamMan
23 weeks ago

The West

Supply and demand is probably the long and short of it. The penis premium as it were

I wonder if there's also an element of simply balancing the books. Single men often back out or just don't turn up and the rest of the men are making up the projected loss of that income?

Would be very interested to hear from event hosts and club owners on this one.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman
23 weeks ago

South Down

Regarding verifications as currency, I'd imagine if you're hosting a party, you want it to be a success. The easiest way to ensure that is to invite those with a proven track record. People who have shown themselves to be reliable, shown themselves to be relaxed in group settings, shown that they know how to conduct themselves, those who've been recommended by others. I'd say this holds true not just for single guys, but for women and couples too.

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By *lueLotusWoman
23 weeks ago

the wilderness

I'd be interested in any extra logistics involved if I was an organiser.. The clubs I've been to had separate areas, separate locker rooms, couples only etc...

Also the admin involved in handling requests to attend from single men, and managing the ratios. Number of bouncers required on a mixed night versus a couples only night etc

Seems to be a numbers game for sure

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By *ipstick KissesWoman
23 weeks ago

South Down

If you mean actual monetary premiums for single guys, I've yet to be at an event here where single guys have to pay more than single women, but there's often a reduction for couples (slightly less than the cost for two single people). I'm sure it happens in some cases though and it's pretty much the norm for clubs in GB

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By *rRiosMan
23 weeks ago

dublin

"I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand."

I agree with this as it is the reality, and I accept it, but can you imagine if Taylor Swift tickets were more expensive for women or is WWE tickets were more expensive for men because of gender based supply and demand…

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By *rank7737 OP Man
23 weeks ago

As a bit of balance i can only imagine the amount of work that goes into organising and running these kinda of events regarding time, money and effort and coving there own costs and if there is anything left in the pot then absolutely fair play to the person or individuals running nights but the question again would be do you think it should be an equal playing field regarding invite price?

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By *ealitybitesMan
23 weeks ago

Belfast

I've never been asked to pay extra at any event I've been to.

Every social I've attended has been the same price for men and women.

I've only been to one play party years ago but there was no charge for that at all so I can't comment on other play events or clubs as I've never been to one.

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago

"As a bit of balance i can only imagine the amount of work that goes into organising and running these kinda of events regarding time, money and effort and coving there own costs and if there is anything left in the pot then absolutely fair play to the person or individuals running nights but the question again would be do you think it should be an equal playing field regarding invite price?"

Confused

it already is balanced! I have a few socials coming up and bought, it's the same price for single men single women, couples are either twice the price or a little bit lower, but not by much. I cannot see the argument here?

Money is not an issue, if it's ratios then it's so many guys, girls and couples, non refundable so go don't go it's paid.

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By *ungry CatCouple
23 weeks ago

Belfast

We have never discriminated against single men, our ticket prices are always the same to all attending any events. That said all our events are social only.

Any private parties we have attended in the past never discriminate against men either and have even prices for all.

I think one of the main drivers behind "penis tax" is the fact that a lot of singe guys flake away and don't show up, so if he spent a tenner on a ticket - he'll not care that much about losing it, but if he spent £50 - it's more likely that he might not want to waste it and will push himself to come.

I could be wrong, but I'd like to think that's at least part of the reason.

About verifications being currency - they aren't.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
23 weeks ago

East / North, Cork

"I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Interesting analogy, but many times concert tickets DO have variable pricing. If you want the rare seats then you may find that they are more expensive than the common standing tickets. Supply and demand.

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By *electableicecreamMan
23 weeks ago

The West

I've paid double to attend clubs and private venues in Ireland.

Naturally as a paying customer I think everyone should pay the same but as a for-profit business owner I wouldn't begrudge anybody putting their egalitarian proclivities in second place the bottom line. That's just business.

Social events have all been the same as far as I can remember.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
23 weeks ago

East / North, Cork

At the end of the day it's the organiser who sets pricing and has taken a gamble on the venture. Attendees can choose if it's worth it or not.

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By *electableicecreamMan
23 weeks ago

The West

Social events have all had the same ticket prices for everyone.

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By *lueLotusWoman
23 weeks ago

the wilderness

My apologies just re read the OP and I see it's about socials in Ireland.

I was referring to clubs I've been to on the continent where single women were 10euro,couples 40euro and single men 70euro. These clubs are well established and packed out so for them it's certainly based on logistics and costs of, I'm sure.

For socials in Ireland, I haven't been to one so can't comment other than it seems only fair that everyone has the same cost unless there's a clear and compelling reason not to.

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By *ady ChatterleyWoman
23 weeks ago

Athlone

As a co organiser of events men and women same ticketed price. Couples a few euro cheaper.

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By *itlbeeCouple
23 weeks ago

This wouldn't make sense as a comparison, because at those events, the draw is Taylor swift, or the actual Wrestlers. Not the other attendees.

It's like when people claim a bar having 'ladies night" is discrimination. But the women aren't being privileged, they are the product being used to lure in the realm customers. The men.

Just open up the "whose near me" or "online now" sections and you ban see there is about 100 single men for every single woman..and many couples don't play with single men, we don't. Swinging is primarily about couples playing with other couples.

I think the original post really missed the mark with verifications too.

They forget all women live in fear of sexual violence from men. It's the primary reason we pursue less hookups.

Having another woman vouch for a man makes him feel safer.

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By *og-ManMan
23 weeks ago

somewhere

Been to lots of socials and organised a few in pubs/ cafes

Paid the same price as single women to the paid ones

When I go as part of a couple it's always been twice the price of a single person

Possibly the only premium as a single person is the cost of a hotel room which is easier if you can find someone to share the room

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By *carlett!Woman
23 weeks ago

"This wouldn't make sense as a comparison, because at those events, the draw is Taylor swift, or the actual Wrestlers. Not the other attendees.

It's like when people claim a bar having 'ladies night" is discrimination. But the women aren't being privileged, they are the product being used to lure in the realm customers. The men.

I think the original post really missed the mark with verifications too.

They forget all women live in fear of sexual violence from men. It's the primary reason we pursue less hookups.

Having another woman vouch for a man makes him feel safer. "

Don't agree with the "Swinging is primarily about couples playing with other couples" part of your comment. That would be an interesting side forum post to discuss at some point.

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By *carlett!Woman
23 weeks ago

I host singles only play parties (Scarlett's Sanctuary). Single men & women pay the same reasonable price. I've never liked the inequality of single guys being charged more than single women for clubs etc or the cost of some events either for guys. I do understand the frustration of some people not turning up & agree this may be why guys are charged more. I ask for non refundable deposit to try cut back on loss.

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By *ethmeonfireMan
23 weeks ago

Dublin

Understand the price difference part in some cases to avoid getting and timewasters in clubs or parties, however do believe that in 2024 swinging is much more than just couples. If that was the case fab would only allow couples to join. I my case it is more about exploring sexuality.

Surely up to the organisers of a party to charge different prices but I have only seen a few doing that so cannot be generalised.

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By *rRiosMan
23 weeks ago

dublin

"I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Not based on gender, which is the main point of the op.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
23 weeks ago

East / North, Cork

"I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Not based on gender, which is the main point of the op. "

If you don't understand the concept of variable pricing based on supply and demand then I'm not gonna explain it to you.

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By *rRiosMan
23 weeks ago

dublin

"I wouldn't read any more into it than supply and demand.

Not based on gender, which is the main point of the op.

If you don't understand the concept of variable pricing based on supply and demand then I'm not gonna explain it to you."

I understand it. I just don’t think it’s relevant. My original point was to try draw an analogous situation in a world outside of fab.

Highlighting the point that concerts/wwe don’t have variable pricing based on gendered supply and demand. Buy hey, as I also said in my original point, I agree with you

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By *panishRebelMan
23 weeks ago

Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland

The opinion from a planner I know is that men tend to back out more. That if Ten are coming 3 or 4 will turn up. From comments by others, this seems to be a consensus.

I would imagine this comes into consideration when planning prices.

Personally I think prices should be equal not just on supply and demand. Then I am an idealist.

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By *eijaWoman
23 weeks ago

City Centre

Any social or party Ive been at in Ireland its same price for single men and women which is only right.

I have however been in many clubs abroad where single men pay double and when that happens I usually 'couple up' with a male friend to save them the cash.

B x

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By *ethmeonfireMan
23 weeks ago

Dublin

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By *ethmeonfireMan
23 weeks ago

Dublin

"Any social or party Ive been at in Ireland its same price for single men and women which is only right.

I have however been in many clubs abroad where single men pay double and when that happens I usually 'couple up' with a male friend to save them the cash.

B x "

Brilliant idea Beija. Really smart

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By *og-ManMan
23 weeks ago

somewhere

"Any social or party Ive been at in Ireland its same price for single men and women which is only right.

I have however been in many clubs abroad where single men pay double and when that happens I usually 'couple up' with a male friend to save them the cash.

B x "

I've done that as a single man in PDI

Its cheaper to pay the couples price and get the 4 free drinks than it is to pay 50 euro as a single man

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By *chochamberWoman
23 weeks ago

Munster

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By *chochamberWoman
23 weeks ago

Munster

It's a testosterone tax.

Higher testosterone, higher libido, higher ratios, higher prices.

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By *ethmeonfireMan
23 weeks ago

Dublin

"It's a testosterone tax.

Higher testosterone, higher libido, higher ratios, higher prices. "

Hopefully like Revenue, we can get credit and tax refund

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By (user no longer on site)
23 weeks ago

"Any social or party Ive been at in Ireland its same price for single men and women which is only right.

I have however been in many clubs abroad where single men pay double and when that happens I usually 'couple up' with a male friend to save them the cash.

B x

I've done that as a single man in PDI

Its cheaper to pay the couples price and get the 4 free drinks than it is to pay 50 euro as a single man "

Is it really 50 for entrance for single guys abroad?.

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By *og-ManMan
23 weeks ago

somewhere

"Any social or party Ive been at in Ireland its same price for single men and women which is only right.

I have however been in many clubs abroad where single men pay double and when that happens I usually 'couple up' with a male friend to save them the cash.

B x

I've done that as a single man in PDI

Its cheaper to pay the couples price and get the 4 free drinks than it is to pay 50 euro as a single man

Is it really 50 for entrance for single guys abroad?. "

It is in some of the clubs in PDI

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