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By *chochamber OP   Woman
38 weeks ago

Munster

Fucks sakes, people are disgraceful, grabby, greedy, assh0les.

Are all charities scams???!!

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By *chochamber OP   Woman
38 weeks ago

Munster

Directors embezzling money from the charities they run, supposedly as unpaid charity work. Personal spending on the charity credit cards. Sanctimonious criminals.

Sad for all those who donated, would really put you off charity.

Same thing happened with Bothar.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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By *aseylee324Couple
38 weeks ago

Valley of Squinting Windows

Human nature, nothing specific to charity organisations

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Unregulated industry, it should be a criminal act but when there are no laws against can a person be prosecuted?

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
38 weeks ago

The West

Around that time of the whole Rehab and Console scandals, a lot of smaller charities ceased their works.

Most of them were in flagrant violation of even the simple rules required at the time. The majority were just cash cows for them and their families.

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By *ind PaddyMan
38 weeks ago

South County Dublin

He was a conman for years.

There is a charity regulator now

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By *lay2pleaseMan
38 weeks ago

northish galway

Funny how people can internally validate reprehensible behaviour... they convince themselves they are entitled to it.

Without strict criteria on how to operate this will continue... same is happening in sports clubs, NFP's up and down the country.

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By *ombikerMan
38 weeks ago

the right side of the river


"Fucks sakes, people are disgraceful, grabby, greedy, assh0les.

Are all charities scams???!! "

Most charities have “administrative “ fees that they take from donations so you would be lucky if 20c from every € actually makes it to where it is supposed to go or help.

I’m not saying they are all a scam buuuutttt.

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By *ealitybitesMan
38 weeks ago

Belfast

I and 2 others resigned as trustees of a charity I had been involved with for 6 years because even though no-one was benefiting financially, a number of other trustees were using equipment and vehicles purchased by the charity through grants and donations for their own personal use.

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
38 weeks ago

The West


"I and 2 others resigned as trustees of a charity I had been involved with for 6 years because even though no-one was benefiting financially, a number of other trustees were using equipment and vehicles purchased by the charity through grants and donations for their own personal use. "

I have a close relative, living in probably the most affluent area of Dublin. After selling their business and retiring, they decided to help out at the local, well known international charity. After a few weeks, they quit out of fear of being associated with the place.

They didnt really do anything, just met for coffee and chats.

It was basically a group of women with very wealthy husband's. It was being used as a tax avoidance scheme for their businesses, and the wives pulling out expenses at the other end.

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By *ofusplusCouple
38 weeks ago

Limerick

Support your local community instead, but only if you trust the individuals involved; sports clubs, community council, tidy towns, your local school, your elderly neighbours etc.

At least you can see where your money is going then.

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By *ofusplusCouple
38 weeks ago

Limerick

His last cowardly act was to leave his wife to pick up the pieces. I'm not saying she was blameless but he was clearly the instigator of it all.

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By *unnerbenMan
38 weeks ago

Dublin / Cork

A common trend with these charities is they will put family on payroll too and redirect money back into their pockets that way . Console , rehab , goal , Irish patients association . All at it . Greed and arrogance

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By *igtasty121Man
38 weeks ago

Nowhere


"I and 2 others resigned as trustees of a charity I had been involved with for 6 years because even though no-one was benefiting financially, a number of other trustees were using equipment and vehicles purchased by the charity through grants and donations for their own personal use.

I have a close relative, living in probably the most affluent area of Dublin. After selling their business and retiring, they decided to help out at the local, well known international charity. After a few weeks, they quit out of fear of being associated with the place.

They didnt really do anything, just met for coffee and chats.

It was basically a group of women with very wealthy husband's. It was being used as a tax avoidance scheme for their businesses, and the wives pulling out expenses at the other end."

That’s horrible.

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By *arkroy2Man
38 weeks ago

south Monaghan

It's the old saying.

It's easy to spent someone else's money

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By *ealitybitesMan
38 weeks ago

Belfast


"I and 2 others resigned as trustees of a charity I had been involved with for 6 years because even though no-one was benefiting financially, a number of other trustees were using equipment and vehicles purchased by the charity through grants and donations for their own personal use.

I have a close relative, living in probably the most affluent area of Dublin. After selling their business and retiring, they decided to help out at the local, well known international charity. After a few weeks, they quit out of fear of being associated with the place.

They didnt really do anything, just met for coffee and chats.

It was basically a group of women with very wealthy husband's. It was being used as a tax avoidance scheme for their businesses, and the wives pulling out expenses at the other end."

The one I was involved with didn't pay a penny to any member.

Everyone from top to bottom were volunteers.

It had been running for 40 years before I joined and when I stepped up to become a trustee along with 2 others, the existing board was already made up of people who had been there for 20, 30 or 40 years.

I immediately raised issues in regard to equipment being purchased that we either didn't need or that I could buy elsewhere for a fraction of the cost.

That put me on a collision course with some of the older members but the Chairperson was fully behind me.

Brand new vehicles being in the wrong part of the country when needed because trustees were using them for their private businesses caused another row and it all came to a head when I was accused of being disruptive and trying to bring the charity down.

The chairperson resigned as a result of the shit being thrown at me claiming it was unwarranted and I walked out with him and another who was also very vocal.

We reported them to the charity commission and 4 years later have never heard a word back from them.

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By *igtasty121Man
38 weeks ago

Nowhere


"Support your local community instead, but only if you trust the individuals involved; sports clubs, community council, tidy towns, your local school, your elderly neighbours etc.

At least you can see where your money is going then."

True but with such need out in war torn Ukraine and Gaza. The damage these people do when setting up scams is immeasurable when they affect the confidence of the general public to continue to give to real charities.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

The real question here is why the state has left the provision of services to charities and ngos particularly in the area of disabilities etc. There should be no need for most of these charities to exist if we had a properly functioning state. This is an indictment of us not some political party.

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By *ind PaddyMan
38 weeks ago

South County Dublin


"The real question here is why the state has left the provision of services to charities and ngos particularly in the area of disabilities etc. There should be no need for most of these charities to exist if we had a properly functioning state. This is an indictment of us not some political party. "

So true, since the foundation of the state, this has been going on. How many homeless charities are there as one example.

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By *astelloWoman
38 weeks ago

Far far away

I am involved in a not for profit as a voluntary director and the level of regulation and oversight is huge. Not all are the same, indeed a few bad eggs where greed takes precedence.

Unfortunately with charities most go to staffing so it can be abused.

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By *electableicecreamMan
38 weeks ago

The West

I was chair of a board of a national org and the level of regulation and transparency requirements were huge.

For a start audited accounts were required and the accountant simply wouldn't sign off on anything irregular. No one person can defraud a charity. It requires complicity across the board (pun intended).

The fault is with the state here both for depending on charities to make up their shortfall and then inadequately funding them and not having sufficient oversight to act as a deterrent.

Regulations are not enough either. Regulatory bodies need to be staffed and funded in order to be effective and Ireland, while it is getting better is still sorely lacking in this department.

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By *panishRebelMan
38 weeks ago

Alicante Spain, and Cork City Ireland

Not all charities are the same.

Some charities have con men, or just plain dip sticks running them.

Others, have passionate and dedicated individuals who lay their lives aside to benefit others.

It's up to individuals to show personal diligence as to who they give too. This is an unfortunate necessity.

As hinted at above, charities fill the gaps left by state. Unfortunately the gaps are getting bigger nor smaller.

Usually a charity starts where individuals affected by an issue start some form of help program. The bigger NGO style charities like most institutions, are prone to becoming corrupted as time goes on.

There are some I will not t on principle give money too due to my belief (that I think is well informed), the charities concerned are at best wasteful and at worst systemically corrupt.

I think the only way around this issue, is to check out the charity before giving. Unfortunately this requires effort. How many of us have the energy for this effort.

Perhaps we should all make the energy available to do this, both individually and collectively.

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By *cuk4funCouple
38 weeks ago

city centre

Would never donate to charities but would buy an item the charity needed . The whole concept of donating your money and said money is divided up between the workers etc and what's left goes to the actual cause needs changing.1 organisation to run the lot of them would be better imo

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By *og-ManMan
38 weeks ago

somewhere

Sometimes I think giving your time to a charity is enough

I volunteer for Alone and visit a sheltered housing scheme every monday night to visit an old man with no family ....no money involved to the charity

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By *cuk4funCouple
38 weeks ago

city centre


"Sometimes I think giving your time to a charity is enough

I volunteer for Alone and visit a sheltered housing scheme every monday night to visit an old man with no family ....no money involved to the charity "

Fair dues bud , that's more precious to him than money in a way

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By *aid backMan
38 weeks ago

by a lake with my rod out

All you have to do is look at charity's CEO pay and see which ones are corrupt

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By *aeandjonCouple
38 weeks ago

athlone

The church is a charity and I believe their cooperation with the charity regulator is laughable and the regulator seem to be afraid to call them out.

They also control most of the primary and a lot of the secondary schools. The award of the smaller building/maintenance etc using state monies is the height of cronyism in rural areas.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Again this is a failing of our state, the church filled gaps in education and health at the foundation of the state, but that’s a 100 years ago. All publicly funded schools etc should be state ran without any patronage from any outside organisation.

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By *astcoast2000Man
38 weeks ago

Newcastle County Down

UNICEF for example the CEO gets $620.000 per annum Oxfam CEO £86.000 per annum

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By *astcoast2000Man
38 weeks ago

Newcastle County Down


"Support your local community instead, but only if you trust the individuals involved; sports clubs, community council, tidy towns, your local school, your elderly neighbours etc.

At least you can see where your money is going then.

True but with such need out in war torn Ukraine and Gaza. The damage these people do when setting up scams is immeasurable when they affect the confidence of the general public to continue to give to real charities. "
While the Hamas leaders are living in Doha worth Billions of dollars skimmed of the UN and other countries it's no secret at least 3 of the are worth billions each

The Vatican bank has assets of €5.5billion yet they are asking for charity donations none any different

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