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"I'm not sure you will find a definitive answer on here. There are lots of people who's lives revolve around fab or swinging so they may well say that what you are describing is normal and healthy. Neither of us spend very long online each day and rarely if ever watch porn so to us it's not normal or healthy. We have however seen first hand how some can become so obsessed with attention and a need for validation that they become unrecognisable. The answers you are looking lie with a professional who can suggest ways for you to involve your partner in discussions with them, well away from the distractions of fab." 100% it's attention as far as I can see. A d yes professional help I have already mentioned and offered to go with her no problem at all, was told she don't need help | |||
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"100% it has taken over everything, we used to do date nights , walks in the eve, she won't even sit and watch TV with anyone in the house, up in the room alone on the phone. I work away a bit and when I get home it's like the ice queen in the house," Definitely sounds like a problem. My take is that you need to help her understand how you feel this is impacting you and your relationship. She may consider that it's not a problem for her, but she MUST listen once it's a problem for you. You almost don't need to go as far as telling her that she had a problem. The fact that it's a problem for you is enough. She needs to make time for normal couple stuff as well as the naughty bits. I'd say a non-fab weekend away or time doing something you used to do together would be a good idea. You need to make space for each other. | |||
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"I'm not sure you will find a definitive answer on here. There are lots of people who's lives revolve around fab or swinging so they may well say that what you are describing is normal and healthy. Neither of us spend very long online each day and rarely if ever watch porn so to us it's not normal or healthy. We have however seen first hand how some can become so obsessed with attention and a need for validation that they become unrecognisable. The answers you are looking lie with a professional who can suggest ways for you to involve your partner in discussions with them, well away from the distractions of fab." | |||
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"This is definitely very solid advice. Need to get away from fab and into the hands of someone who knows what they are dealing with. I'm not sure you will find a definitive answer on here. There are lots of people who's lives revolve around fab or swinging so they may well say that what you are describing is normal and healthy. Neither of us spend very long online each day and rarely if ever watch porn so to us it's not normal or healthy. We have however seen first hand how some can become so obsessed with attention and a need for validation that they become unrecognisable. The answers you are looking lie with a professional who can suggest ways for you to involve your partner in discussions with them, well away from the distractions of fab." | |||
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"As the title says when is it classed as a problem, Ok this profile is only to post this as do not want to draw attention to our own profile, on here over 10 yrs and well verified. A few weeks ago i mentioned how much time my partner was spending on line, as in fab ,fl, xn porn, tok tic, insta ect,was told it was normal.like im talking from 5,30 am to 12am 7 days a week every 20-30 min checking for mails ,fabbing pics and vids,It has caused a massive problem in our relationship. and now they are also on aw doing live cam shows and selling pics and videos. Now we are not that stuck for money just as well because the return is crap if the truth be known they spend hours on their for €7 -€15 ,You wont make a living of it thats for sure.We all watch a bit of porn but 7 days a week ever few hours even when she working in my opinion is a bit worrying. I have said what if someone from the town sees her, what if her job finds out, what if kids find out she is doing these live shows,the answer i got was its normal . in a nut shell im saying she needs to talk to someone and im been told nothing wrong. whats everyones taughts on this amount of time on the sites, i had no probs with coming on here once twice a week, party every 6 wks if we were lucky. club in uk every 3-4 months and a swing holiday once a yr. genuine answere please not looking for greef please " Really feel for u here Can’t imagine what it’s like to see someone u care so deeply about disappear before your eyes. Please take care of urself through all this and get the supports that u need . XXlalaXX ( I’m blocked on my own account) | |||
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"Tbh it sounds like she needs to talk to someone about this. The problem is, she does not see it as a problem so yous are kinda stuck. It sounds like you’ve already talk about this extensively so I’m not sure what else you can do… wish I could offer better advice. The fist step of any addiction is admitting you have a problem. Until that happens you can’t really take other steps to remedy the issue Maybe try an angle of how it’s affecting you and your mental health and get her to empathize from your perspective? Eitherway, sorry to hear. " i have already asked her to get help, and like you said first step to getting help is admiting you have a prob which she wont do, | |||
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"100% it has taken over everything, we used to do date nights , walks in the eve, she won't even sit and watch TV with anyone in the house, up in the room alone on the phone. I work away a bit and when I get home it's like the ice queen in the house, Definitely sounds like a problem. My take is that you need to help her understand how you feel this is impacting you and your relationship. She may consider that it's not a problem for her, but she MUST listen once it's a problem for you. You almost don't need to go as far as telling her that she had a problem. The fact that it's a problem for you is enough. She needs to make time for normal couple stuff as well as the naughty bits. I'd say a non-fab weekend away or time doing something you used to do together would be a good idea. You need to make space for each other." she wont talk about it and is dead aginst it now,i cant force her to do anything, and the way things are now looks like christmas is going to be a total disaster | |||
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"OP you may want to consider seeing a counsellor yourself while your are working your way through this. There's a lot to be said for having a safe place to let off some steam while getting sound objective guidance on your next steps. There are many free online counselling services such as talktome who offer six free weeks of counselling over video." i have been speaking to a counsellor the last 3 weeks on and off as i as slipping deeper and deeper into a hole a cant see a way back from | |||
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"Fab can definitely lead to addictive habits. If I find myself being on too much I take a step back and take a break. I only logged back in this week after not logging in for two months. It's just very easy to slip into the habit of constantly checking Fab. I think in this modern age our brain's are wired now seeking that dopamine hit. " i am the very same i can go months without coming on here and i dont let it take over my life, but cant say the same for her at the min | |||
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"As the title says when is it classed as a problem, Ok this profile is only to post this as do not want to draw attention to our own profile, on here over 10 yrs and well verified. A few weeks ago i mentioned how much time my partner was spending on line, as in fab ,fl, xn porn, tok tic, insta ect,was told it was normal.like im talking from 5,30 am to 12am 7 days a week every 20-30 min checking for mails ,fabbing pics and vids,It has caused a massive problem in our relationship. and now they are also on aw doing live cam shows and selling pics and videos. Now we are not that stuck for money just as well because the return is crap if the truth be known they spend hours on their for €7 -€15 ,You wont make a living of it thats for sure.We all watch a bit of porn but 7 days a week ever few hours even when she working in my opinion is a bit worrying. I have said what if someone from the town sees her, what if her job finds out, what if kids find out she is doing these live shows,the answer i got was its normal . in a nut shell im saying she needs to talk to someone and im been told nothing wrong. whats everyones taughts on this amount of time on the sites, i had no probs with coming on here once twice a week, party every 6 wks if we were lucky. club in uk every 3-4 months and a swing holiday once a yr. genuine answere please not looking for greef please Really feel for u here Can’t imagine what it’s like to see someone u care so deeply about disappear before your eyes. Please take care of urself through all this and get the supports that u need . XXlalaXX ( I’m blocked on my own account) " hi lala thanks im trying my best, | |||
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"You have two opposing points of view. The first step is for you to look after yourself, talk to a knowledgeable therapist who's familiar with these issues. She is responsible for herself, and her side of your relationship, but you can't force change in someone else. To help you understand how it's so difficult for her to change, read up on how trauma, or porn use affects the brain, and our thinking. It's hard to be in a relationship with someone when their behaviour has changed so much since you first met them. Best of luck. " thanks, i have been seeking info about this the last 6-7 wks and its not a nice place to be or the outcome is not looking good right now | |||
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"It's so frustrating living with someone who's addicted. And they can put the blinkers on to the impact addiction has on relationships and families. I empathise OP. It raises so many questions too. Why is the escapism necessary. Why don't they care that you are hurting. Why aren't they happy etc But ultimately if they can't see the problem then its back on you isn't it. How long can you stick it if there's no change? If your needs are being neglected or minimised?" i have not been in the house the last 4 wks, she does not care who she is hurting right now as she says its normal behaviour. and she is seeking out more and more than ever before on fab, and i know 110% its only a matter of when and where right now | |||
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"Have you tried talking to her about how it's affecting you or the kids? Does she realise you're seeking help? Maybe that might be a wake up call that you're serious. " at the min she does not care who she is hurting, and kids dont know anything about it, when i did say what if they find ous her answer was im not ashamed of what im doing , | |||
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"I didn't realise you have kids. That's changes how I'd view this. I sympathise with you, and know many people in your , and her situation who have come through this kind of difficulty and out the other end, still in a loving relationship. I'd suggest, with the greatest respect to you both, , as kids are involved, not discussing this in a public forum like Fab. DM me if you would like to discuss it privately, or talk privately to trusted counsellors. " ok she has, not mine but i would class as mine. but changes nothing, and like i said from the beginning thats why i set up this profile as not to draw any attention to our profile, | |||
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"Honestly if someone is causing you this much distress I'd be thinking of leaving them. Especially if she doesn't care what she's doing or doesn't regard your feelings " easier said than done when she is the person you love and cant see any wrong in. she has a heart of gold and is a wonderful person, i hope this is just a faze she is going through and as far as im aware she is peri menopause, i guess anyone can make mistakes and if i walked away now without trying id never forgive myself | |||
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"Op Do you have any couples or females on fab that you're friends with Not fab friends but someone that's gone on to be a real friend that could talk to her since they know fab " yes her best friend is on here she has tried talking to her and she just shut her down about it | |||
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"OP your ina a very difficult situation, hope it all works out well for you, " Thank you | |||
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"You need to think about protecting yourself and your own mental health OP. I would strongly suggest distancing yourself from her. You can force a person to change and the more you try and the more it falls the more you'll be the one who is suffering. " I'm suffering so much right now seen the lady I love just slipping away, my mental health is so smashed right now I'm actually numb | |||
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"Just your typical start to the day 1,40am insta last on line 5,40am insta 6,10am toc tik 6,45am aw 7,05am fab And has bounced between all to up to now at 7,30am someone please tell me that's not normal by any means, 110% that is addiction in my eyes " Can I ask how do you know her time spent on each one Do you share a bed Is she keeping you awake with her phone | |||
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"Just your typical start to the day 1,40am insta last on line 5,40am insta 6,10am toc tik 6,45am aw 7,05am fab And has bounced between all to up to now at 7,30am someone please tell me that's not normal by any means, 110% that is addiction in my eyes Can I ask how do you know her time spent on each one Do you share a bed Is she keeping you awake with her phone " It's when she was on line/logged in to sites, I haven't been home in 3wks but even when I was in bed beside her yes was no difference | |||
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"Stay Focused is a good app to block sites and apps. Maybe you could say to her could she try it over the Christmas period. There's various settings on it like time limits or blocks. There's also options not to be able to log into certain sites apps until the countdown is over. If you put it on strict settings, there's no way to change it even uninstalling the app won't work will still be blocked. " Thanks all I can do is ask but I'm fairly sure the answer will be no | |||
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"I'd be really really worried about you being out of the family home and checking her login times etc. Get out and do something healthy for you. Talk to your family and friends. Let her know that you are there for her and her kids once she's ready to talk about these issues and take your needs seriously." I work away so it's nothing out of the norm, but can't see this been half sorted before Xmas so it's going to be another messed up Xmas, | |||
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"Good morning all just a small update, she did read this yesterday and spent most of the day on fab and aw and then last night the aw profile was cleaned of all pics and videos, is it the first step to getting the help I asked for I don't know time will tell, yesterday was a very hard day for myself I took the advice of one you and had a session on turn 2 me which has helped, I drive a truck long distance and its hard been alone and away from home, when things go wrong u are powerless to do anything to fix things,I was and still am not in a great place right now but hopefully their is some light at the end of this tunnel, I will say this, if ur friend, partner,or a stranger ever reaches out, asks for help, advice, anything. Life is to short for not helping or listening, no one knows what's going on in someone's life, sometimes head and all it takes is a few min to change everything for everyone" All you can both do is take it one day at a time but it sounds like it’s moving in the right direction which is great to see. It will be a long journey and there will probably be some set backs so don’t be disheartened and keep at it. Glad you got to speak to someone too. | |||
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"Reading through the thread and your posts, I came to think that you being away for weeks might have to do with it, missing your company and attention, feeling bit lonely and the social media offers a great deal of (false/fake) attention especially when the clothes come off. Now I'm not saying it's your fault, obviously we all have to make a living. However it might be something you and your partner have to discuss and overcome once your relationship gets out of this downward spiral. Plenty of good advise above, she might deny her online binging but it's not just about her and her social media disorder, as others mentioned she has to face respectively be confronted with that it's about you and her and your relationship that is at stake. Hopefully that will give her the wake-up call she needs. All the best op! " I'm not away for weeks since we moved in together, most I'd be gone is 4/5 days at a max, She don't seem to care who is getting hurt I have told her how it's affected me and all I get is the def ear, She is going to do what pleases her and who gets in the way is now does not matter | |||
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"Fab is full of people of might claim to be your friend but are really not, going on 22 years in the lifestyle and it's very important to switch off from time to time and enjoy life and your partner and kids, call it a kinda resetting the clock. Really hope you both find the balance you are looking for. It's a fantastic lifestyle but that too at times needs a brake." 110% agree with you but she don't want to open her eyes to what she is doing or causing, | |||
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"As the title says when is it classed as a problem, Ok this profile is only to post this as do not want to draw attention to our own profile, on here over 10 yrs and well verified. A few weeks ago i mentioned how much time my partner was spending on line, as in fab ,fl, xn porn, tok tic, insta ect,was told it was normal.like im talking from 5,30 am to 12am 7 days a week every 20-30 min checking for mails ,fabbing pics and vids,It has caused a massive problem in our relationship. and now they are also on aw doing live cam shows and selling pics and videos. Now we are not that stuck for money just as well because the return is crap if the truth be known they spend hours on their for €7 -€15 ,You wont make a living of it thats for sure.We all watch a bit of porn but 7 days a week ever few hours even when she working in my opinion is a bit worrying. I have said what if someone from the town sees her, what if her job finds out, what if kids find out she is doing these live shows,the answer i got was its normal . in a nut shell im saying she needs to talk to someone and im been told nothing wrong. whats everyones taughts on this amount of time on the sites, i had no probs with coming on here once twice a week, party every 6 wks if we were lucky. club in uk every 3-4 months and a swing holiday once a yr. genuine answere please not looking for greef please " She clearly has an addiction....& She needs to gradually reduce her screen time....she could possibly be just addicting to her phone or whatever other device she uses.... | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details." I'd suggest taking a break yourself as this whole thing is going to be more than a little traumatising and probably isn't the right time for casual sex. You've got far more important things to deal with. | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details." So.. thanks for describing this situation,.. but i do not understand your intentions behind creating this profile uploading pics and using this as a separate one from your couples profile... its totally your life and decisions.. but are you taking her actions as an excuse to fly solo... | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details. So.. thanks for describing this situation,.. but i do not understand your intentions behind creating this profile uploading pics and using this as a separate one from your couples profile... its totally your life and decisions.. but are you taking her actions as an excuse to fly solo..." I'm thinking the same....is this just an excuse "to fly solo"....I assume your partner knows you're gonna have a single account here yes....or is it in secret....I know this current account is in secret right now....but does she know you're now here solo? | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details. So.. thanks for describing this situation,.. but i do not understand your intentions behind creating this profile uploading pics and using this as a separate one from your couples profile... its totally your life and decisions.. but are you taking her actions as an excuse to fly solo..." I never wanted to fly solo, this was to keep attention away from our own profile, and it was to seek opinions on if the post was an addiction. | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details. So.. thanks for describing this situation,.. but i do not understand your intentions behind creating this profile uploading pics and using this as a separate one from your couples profile... its totally your life and decisions.. but are you taking her actions as an excuse to fly solo... I'm thinking the same....is this just an excuse "to fly solo"....I assume your partner knows you're gonna have a single account here yes....or is it in secret....I know this current account is in secret right now....but does she know you're now here solo?" She changed the original cpl profile to a single lady, their is nothing In secret. She is the one who chose to fly solo for her own gain and not worried about who got hurt in the crossfire of her actions | |||
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"Define - OUR OWN PROFILE ???? As far as I’m aware you’re single !!! Love the depiction of the victim you have outlined above - pity it’s not the truth " OK so tell us the truth please | |||
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"Here’s a couple of definitions to look up for yourself Coercion Manipulation Stalking Black mail To name a few !!!! " OK So your not on adul twork doing lives, selling pics and videos ? Your not fab 4-5 hrs a day Your not on xn watching porn 20 -30 times a day Your not on Instagram for the same 3-4 hrs a day ? | |||
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"So this went places I didn't expect " It’s always great when people only get 1 side of the story !!!!! | |||
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"So this went places I didn't expect " You mean the the guy that gained everyone's sympathy and then announced he was abandoning his girlfriend and her kids to fly solo on his own profile because he just couldn't take it anymore might not have been telling the whole truth? I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! | |||
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"Here’s a couple of definitions to look up for yourself Coercion Manipulation Stalking Black mail To name a few !!!! OK So your not on adul twork doing lives, selling pics and videos ? Your not fab 4-5 hrs a day Your not on xn watching porn 20 -30 times a day Your not on Instagram for the same 3-4 hrs a day ?" I'd say you have about an hour before the ban hammer descends and this whole thread gets nuked off the face of the earth. | |||
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"Ok after a few days to way up everything and all the messages I have received and advice given by everyone that took the time to read this post I'm done trying to fix something I can't fix because it's not me at fault here and you can't help someone who won't admit they need help, I will always love her and if she ever gets the help she needs I will be the first person their for her, I have done nothing wrong and for that I have no reason to hide behind this post any longer so I'm going to start using this profile from this eve, just waiting on pics to be approved and fill in a few basic details. So.. thanks for describing this situation,.. but i do not understand your intentions behind creating this profile uploading pics and using this as a separate one from your couples profile... its totally your life and decisions.. but are you taking her actions as an excuse to fly solo... I never wanted to fly solo, this was to keep attention away from our own profile, and it was to seek opinions on if the post was an addiction. " So who's in charge of the other single male profile you've posted from a couple of times in this thread? | |||
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"So this went places I didn't expect You mean the the guy that gained everyone's sympathy and then announced he was abandoning his girlfriend and her kids to fly solo on his own profile because he just couldn't take it anymore might not have been telling the whole truth? I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked!" I never flew solo , never abandoned anyone. You try help someone who won't get 100% come back and tell how you got on | |||
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