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"What or whom was once popular and new on here isn't anymore, it's a revolving door on fab of new people...." Maybe your new tag line lolly.. like Beamish? Consistency in a world gone ... | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion." I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus " ?? | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion." The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus ?? " not sure why question marks. | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus ?? not sure why question marks. " ?? Is what comes up if you try to use a keyboard emoji instead of the Fab one's | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. " Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies " The Midlands is now seeing an increase in group socials. | |||
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"A lot more time wasters and people that don't read profiles. Hard to find a met in the last while " Definitely agree hardly no one reads profiles now,we are only on here a couple of years but do feel there is a huge amount of clowns on here nowadays. Or maybe we are only getting them all now. Still alot of great people but you must through alot for to find them. | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus " __________ This is interesting. We're only on here a year or so, so we can't comment on change over time, but the single male element has been curious to us from the start. Some couples, single women, single males ARE looking for single males, and some aren't. But we were getting quite a few messages on joining from single males even though our profile mentioned we weren't interested. Is being a single male in a swinger context akin to the guy who arrives at a party with no beer of his own? For those couples who are looking for single males, is that like bringing extra beer so the guy who arrives with none can have some? Maybe if the couple enjoys sharing their beer... We've now been to two socials and two play parties. The single male element at these seems to us to correlate to that on fab too - some unsolicited attention, but easy enough to manage. It must be very difficult for a single male to get anywhere on this scene. The 9s & 10s will probably do better than others, with the volume of single males out there and the resulting competing factor. For the "wanna fuck" guys that pester women in regular bars, is this world a better option with a higher hit-rate? Have you long-time fabbers seen a change in the ratio of couples vs single males over time? | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I think what happened was that all the "wanna fuck" brigade lost bars and clubs during covid where they would usually go out on a pull to prey on heavily intoxicated women and using manipulative and pushy tactics to get their one night stands, so they flooded fab for two years making one on one meets not so safe. So naturally women and couples now choose to seek out a safer space to meet new people as any self respecting organizer will naturally steer clear from inviting anyone who has been known to behave like a pest or worse. My two pence in this Missus __________ This is interesting. We're only on here a year or so, so we can't comment on change over time, but the single male element has been curious to us from the start. Some couples, single women, single males ARE looking for single males, and some aren't. But we were getting quite a few messages on joining from single males even though our profile mentioned we weren't interested. Is being a single male in a swinger context akin to the guy who arrives at a party with no beer of his own? For those couples who are looking for single males, is that like bringing extra beer so the guy who arrives with none can have some? Maybe if the couple enjoys sharing their beer... We've now been to two socials and two play parties. The single male element at these seems to us to correlate to that on fab too - some unsolicited attention, but easy enough to manage. It must be very difficult for a single male to get anywhere on this scene. The 9s & 10s will probably do better than others, with the volume of single males out there and the resulting competing factor. For the "wanna fuck" guys that pester women in regular bars, is this world a better option with a higher hit-rate? Have you long-time fabbers seen a change in the ratio of couples vs single males over time?" The way I see single men - as good or bad as they are, they're what makes fab go round. They're the ones giving women and couples attention (wanted or unwanted it's still attention), they moan and groan - which gives us a reason to moan and groan back at them, they like most of the pictures, they make the site look busy. Without single men swinging scene would be a lot more boring than it is now. All of that said - a huge proportion join the site expecting these animalistically horned up women who are desperately gagging for their magical cock to meet them at their first mating call and give them the most mind blowing night of passionate sex which will make porn look like amateur business. When reality of the fact that they need to put in effort to present themselves better (be articulate and friendly, charming, charismatic, presentable, well groomed, respectful etc) hits them in the face like a cold wet dish cloth - they back pedal back to tinder. From organisers point of view- over past 4 years our experience with single men has been very steady - as soon as you make it clear that a social meet and greet is just a social meet and greet and sex at the event isn't allowed - most of new faces who previously sang the songs of how interested they are in joining the community - dissappear of the face of earth. Can't say if that's also other organizers experience as single men's tickets at others events are usually sold out first. In our case is the complete opposite - we find it harder to see single men to commit and even then - single men usually are in the biggest proportion of no shows even after they've committed to attend. Missus | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies " I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me " Sure Nic was only a young wan then Wilder | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me Sure Nic was only a young wan then Wilder " Oh yes, of course, there's always that, wouldn't have even gotten served.... | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me Sure Nic was only a young wan then Wilder Oh yes, of course, there's always that, wouldn't have even gotten served.... " Yes, my pictures clearly show that i'm only 25 Yeah we knew about the Limerick events but were too scared to go | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me Sure Nic was only a young wan then Wilder Oh yes, of course, there's always that, wouldn't have even gotten served.... Yes, my pictures clearly show that i'm only 25 Yeah we knew about the Limerick events but were too scared to go " Well that's on you | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. The socials were huge ten years ago too. They reduced in size for a while but glad to see them back. Things move in cycles. Maybe in Dublin but not much was happening for us culchies I went to several large socials in Cork and limerick a decade ago. They were happening trust, me Sure Nic was only a young wan then Wilder Oh yes, of course, there's always that, wouldn't have even gotten served.... Yes, my pictures clearly show that i'm only 25 Yeah we knew about the Limerick events but were too scared to go Well that's on you " It surely is | |||
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" - Not as many piranhas and trolls on the forums these days thankfully - Harder to meet people (but then again I'm now in that older "more exclusive" category ) " your still an absolute gem xxx | |||
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"Has fab changed compared to what it once was? It has changed in the past year or so. Harder to get to chat with and even meet ppl? Is it moved to another site/app? " yeah a lot since I joined. Way too many fakes and time wasters that ruin it for the genuine ones | |||
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"Why it is so hard for lady's to reply, when you text genuine text, with nice comments...do you need to be a weirdo or something??" Fab has changed, since covid the world has opened up again, people are making up for lost time, have discovered more about what they want + like and are going for it. All positive stuff. On the negative side the ratio of men to women is ridicolus, prob about 6 to 1 in womens favour. | |||
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"I'm not sure if it has changed or not , but I love chatting on the forum its like free therapy lol one of the threads brought back some horrible memories from a old meet, I messaged a fab Friend I never met only chatting here, he gave some great advice .. so people can be friends without ever meeting , x" There are some nice people on here I agree. Sometimes they can be hard to find as there’s so many other types on here too. What’s the saying “small fish in big pond” lol | |||
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"Interesting reply’s. Agree on some and disagree on some also. The social scene has grown alot but it had changed from the social scene of the past where the past where there was less cliques and more variety as in it was more diverse now unless your a 10/10 or a people pleaser you don’t get the time of day. I agree on that it can be a bad place for single women and even single men and couples there is too mad weirdos and fake profiles thats not all what they make out to be and it can be a dangerous game meeting them kind of people. " Of course it's dangerous meeting fake profiles so why would you even chat to them? Fab isn't a crèche and grown adults shouldn't need their hand held. Fake profiles are really obvious which is why I've never even chatted to one in all my years here never mind arranged to meet one. As to people giving someone the time of day, again, why would you want to meet anyone who only speaks to people pleasers? I'm neither a 10/10 or an arse kisser and most people I've chatted to have messaged me first because I'm neither of those things. | |||
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"What's a 10/10? I'll bet any two women will give you a different answer. It's a red herring. As if women don't have different tastes." Won't someone think of the 9/10's?? | |||
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"Why it is so hard for lady's to reply, when you text genuine text, with nice comments...do you need to be a weirdo or something??" Some will be swamped in messages, the single lady’s we know and talk too can have upto 300 odd messages sitting unread. So yours could be lost amongst them, no matter the content. Then if they’ve opened it, they are either just not interested or might know you from the real world and would rather not have that conversation. Fab itself pushes the non reply option, as people tend to get nasty when rejected. I’m not saying you are, just that’s the it can go on here. You’ve just gotta keep trying and with luck and timing you’ll find someone. G | |||
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"Can I just say that ten years ago the idea/theory of "cliques" running the show was just as popular, if not the cause of way more rows than it is nowadays. " It's only a clique if you're not in it! | |||
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"Interesting reply’s. Agree on some and disagree on some also. The social scene has grown alot but it had changed from the social scene of the past where the past where there was less cliques and more variety as in it was more diverse now unless your a 10/10 or a people pleaser you don’t get the time of day. I agree on that it can be a bad place for single women and even single men and couples there is too mad weirdos and fake profiles thats not all what they make out to be and it can be a dangerous game meeting them kind of people. " We aren’t 10/10 and get invited and go to plenty of events and without sounding horrible plenty of people there aren’t 10/10 either. I do get the whole cliche thing, there are some on here and in the social side. Although sometimes it can be mistaking for friendship groups that have been formed for ages. Nothing an introduction hasn’t been able to help open it up. G | |||
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"What's a 10/10? I'll bet any two women will give you a different answer. It's a red herring. As if women don't have different tastes. Won't someone think of the 9/10's?? " I can't help you. Me being a 10 means I just wave from my ivory tower. | |||
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"What's a 10/10? I'll bet any two women will give you a different answer. It's a red herring. As if women don't have different tastes. Won't someone think of the 9/10's?? I can't help you. Me being a 10 means I just wave from my ivory tower." I ffffart in your general direction | |||
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"What's a 10/10? I'll bet any two women will give you a different answer. It's a red herring. As if women don't have different tastes. Won't someone think of the 9/10's?? I can't help you. Me being a 10 means I just wave from my ivory tower. I ffffart in your general direction " Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! | |||
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"Can I just say that ten years ago the idea/theory of "cliques" running the show was just as popular, if not the cause of way more rows than it is nowadays. It's only a clique if you're not in it!" Damn! Oh wait, I'm in it, apparently. | |||
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"Well the conversation has improved a bit and I'm very impressed with the name calling your father smells of elderberries ha ha ha ,I love it xxx" Fetchez la vache!! | |||
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"Why it is so hard for lady's to reply, when you text genuine text, with nice comments...do you need to be a weirdo or something?? Fab has changed, since covid the world has opened up again, people are making up for lost time, have discovered more about what they want + like and are going for it. All positive stuff. On the negative side the ratio of men to women is ridicolus, prob about 6 to 1 in womens favour. " The ratio is a lot more one sided than that... | |||
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"Why it is so hard for lady's to reply, when you text genuine text, with nice comments...do you need to be a weirdo or something?? Fab has changed, since covid the world has opened up again, people are making up for lost time, have discovered more about what they want + like and are going for it. All positive stuff. On the negative side the ratio of men to women is ridicolus, prob about 6 to 1 in womens favour. The ratio is a lot more one sided than that... " Last time someone did the math it came out about 7:1 in Ireland. That was from a sample size in every county | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me" But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. " Indeed...like, even if there was only 1 man and me and we're not attracted to each other, then we're still not getting the ride | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. Indeed...like, even if there was only 1 man and me and we're not attracted to each other, then we're still not getting the ride " I will never understand why people think that ratios have much influence on anything. Even if I was in a room with 400 men who are all attracted to me (highly unlikely, but let's pretend) 400/1 ratio. If 200 are married (personal preference not to get involved with anyone whos attached with or without permission), I'm not attracted to 150 physically (lets face it, not everyone is everyones cup of tea), I'm not attracted to another 45 mentally (some people just don't vibe) and last 5 left early (representing no shows). That leaves us at a 0/1 ratio... yet everyone around me keeps telling me about how easy it must be for me to find a match and I must have so much choice Missus | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. Indeed...like, even if there was only 1 man and me and we're not attracted to each other, then we're still not getting the ride I will never understand why people think that ratios have much influence on anything. Even if I was in a room with 400 men who are all attracted to me (highly unlikely, but let's pretend) 400/1 ratio. If 200 are married (personal preference not to get involved with anyone whos attached with or without permission), I'm not attracted to 150 physically (lets face it, not everyone is everyones cup of tea), I'm not attracted to another 45 mentally (some people just don't vibe) and last 5 left early (representing no shows). That leaves us at a 0/1 ratio... yet everyone around me keeps telling me about how easy it must be for me to find a match and I must have so much choice Missus" Yeah but you have boobs so like.. | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. Indeed...like, even if there was only 1 man and me and we're not attracted to each other, then we're still not getting the ride I will never understand why people think that ratios have much influence on anything. Even if I was in a room with 400 men who are all attracted to me (highly unlikely, but let's pretend) 400/1 ratio. If 200 are married (personal preference not to get involved with anyone whos attached with or without permission), I'm not attracted to 150 physically (lets face it, not everyone is everyones cup of tea), I'm not attracted to another 45 mentally (some people just don't vibe) and last 5 left early (representing no shows). That leaves us at a 0/1 ratio... yet everyone around me keeps telling me about how easy it must be for me to find a match and I must have so much choice Missus Yeah but you have boobs so like.." One boob | |||
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"Nope, people have changed, many left many new and many upped their game. Just be superior and play them at there own game " Or just be yourself | |||
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"If there was a room with 70 men and 10 women then there will be a lot more disappointed men than if there was an even split. Makes sense to me But... if all men in the same room are over 50 and if one of those women is in her early 20's and she's only into men who are no older than 35 - that leaves even more disappointed men and one disappointed woman. That's where the preferences come in and lessen the chances for both men and women. Indeed...like, even if there was only 1 man and me and we're not attracted to each other, then we're still not getting the ride I will never understand why people think that ratios have much influence on anything. Even if I was in a room with 400 men who are all attracted to me (highly unlikely, but let's pretend) 400/1 ratio. If 200 are married (personal preference not to get involved with anyone whos attached with or without permission), I'm not attracted to 150 physically (lets face it, not everyone is everyones cup of tea), I'm not attracted to another 45 mentally (some people just don't vibe) and last 5 left early (representing no shows). That leaves us at a 0/1 ratio... yet everyone around me keeps telling me about how easy it must be for me to find a match and I must have so much choice Missus" Love this | |||
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"Dan Ariely's video on attractiveness on The Big Think YouTube channel is pretty interesting in terms of some of the discussions on this thread. Worth a watch. Are we OK to post YT links on forum posts?" According to the rules yes you can | |||
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"Nope, people have changed, many left many new and many upped their game. Just be superior and play them at there own game Or just be yourself " You offering to help me be myself and I can help you be yourself | |||
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"The social side is huge, seems to have grown since before Covid and a lot of people are preferring those events to private meets now, in my opinion. I'd agree that that's the biggest change we've seen in our almost 5 years. Other changes are negligible and I think are more likely due to us having changed (more experienced, less availability, a bit more world weary)" Absolutely K I feel the same as you, it’s a revolving door of old timers and new hungry people although sometimes I’m absolutely starving lol. I’m just active off fab as well so it doesn’t all happen here and non sex hum drum life just tips the balance for me currently. | |||
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"Dan Ariely's video on attractiveness on The Big Think YouTube channel is pretty interesting in terms of some of the discussions on this thread. Worth a watch. Are we OK to post YT links on forum posts? __________ According to the rules yes you can " __________ https://youtu.be/BzG0_aU_Fn0? | |||
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